Crime statistics and why they're difficult to read country to country and why the US might have less rape

[frigidweirdo]

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/claim-uk-has-highest-rape-rate-developed-world-misses-key-context-2025-09-17/

"Online posts that claim the United Kingdom has the highest per capita rape rate among the world's developed economies are missing key context, including that rape in the UK is defined more broadly than in many other countries."

The UK and the US both have rape. But rape isn't just "rape".

The UK and US define rape completely differently. But people will still look at the statistics and point to the UK and say "look, the UK has higher rape rates, the US is better, probably because of our guns" even though Alaska, with loads of guns, has the highest rape rate in the US. (148.7 per 100,000 or 118.4 per 100,000 depending on which site you look at. Either way Arkansas is second with 72.3 or 77.2 per 100,000)

https://www.statspanda.com/us-state-topics/Rape%20Statistics

Rape Statistics by State 2026

Discover population, economy, health, and more with the most comprehensive global statistics at your fingertips.

worldpopulationreview.com

But we can see this for real in a case of a US pilot who raped a woman in the UK, but didn't get punished for rape under the US military "justice" system.

‘Degrading’: why did a US fighter pilot avoid British trial after strangling a woman in England?

Jacob Wulfson’s fellow airmen decided his fate after a court martial at RAF Lakenheath – a distressing week for Sarah Steele, the academic he assaulted

uk.yahoo.com

"In the criminal justice system for England and Wales, Wulfson's trial would probably have been held at the city's crown court, and the alleged offence categorised as rape. A jury of ordinary citizens – men and women – would have heard the case. If found guilty, a judge would have decided the sentence."

"However, Wulfson's case was tried at a court martial on a US airbase, despite his alleged crime taking place while he was off duty and in an English city. The proceedings followed US military law, and the offence was not charged as rape but as sexual assault and "aggravated sexual contact"."

This is why the US has a lower rape rate than the UK, not because there's less rape, but because the US doesn't care to make a lot of these cases "rape".

"In Wulfson's case, the jury found him guilty of strangling Steele, but not guilty of penetrating her vagina without her consent."

Not only that, he didn't even get found guilty of "aggravated sexual contact", when had he been tried, would probably have been found guilty (opinion, no fact).

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Here you are defending the violent gang rape of children a few years ago:

Thread 'Who Is Tommy Robinson and What Is He About:'

May 29, 2018

Tommy Robinson is a tough, street-wise, cockney Englishman who has run afoul of the law a few times in his younger years but never in a way which is either contemptible or has brought harm to any innocent person. While he has paid the punitive price for his misdeeds he has since become a thorn in the side of the political power structure by brazenly calling attention to a situation which the law enforcement establishment in England has for years chosen to ignore.

That situation is the active presence of so-called "grooming gangs," comprised mainly of Pakistani Muslim migrants, who...

• MikeK
• Replies: 99
• Forum: Europe

• 

Post#52

"First you have to ask why there are these vulnerable children outside with nothing better to do that get tapped up by these guys.

You have to remember this wasn't forced rape. These girls were looking for something, comfort, support, whatever. Part of this is to do with how things changed in society."

 

[1srelluc]

You have to wonder what kind of person the OP is when instead of wanting rapists locked away he tries to play number games.

 

[Crepitus]

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/claim-uk-has-highest-rape-rate-developed-world-misses-key-context-2025-09-17/

"Online posts that claim the United Kingdom has the highest per capita rape rate among the world's developed economies are missing key context, including that rape in the UK is defined more broadly than in many other countries."

The UK and the US both have rape. But rape isn't just "rape".

The UK and US define rape completely differently. But people will still look at the statistics and point to the UK and say "look, the UK has higher rape rates, the US is better, probably because of our guns" even though Alaska, with loads of guns, has the highest rape rate in the US. (148.7 per 100,000 or 118.4 per 100,000 depending on which site you look at. Either way Arkansas is second with 72.3 or 77.2 per 100,000)

https://www.statspanda.com/us-state-topics/Rape%20Statistics

Rape Statistics by State 2026

Discover population, economy, health, and more with the most comprehensive global statistics at your fingertips.

worldpopulationreview.com

But we can see this for real in a case of a US pilot who raped a woman in the UK, but didn't get punished for rape under the US military "justice" system.

‘Degrading’: why did a US fighter pilot avoid British trial after strangling a woman in England?

Jacob Wulfson’s fellow airmen decided his fate after a court martial at RAF Lakenheath – a distressing week for Sarah Steele, the academic he assaulted

uk.yahoo.com

"In the criminal justice system for England and Wales, Wulfson's trial would probably have been held at the city's crown court, and the alleged offence categorised as rape. A jury of ordinary citizens – men and women – would have heard the case. If found guilty, a judge would have decided the sentence."

"However, Wulfson's case was tried at a court martial on a US airbase, despite his alleged crime taking place while he was off duty and in an English city. The proceedings followed US military law, and the offence was not charged as rape but as sexual assault and "aggravated sexual contact"."

This is why the US has a lower rape rate than the UK, not because there's less rape, but because the US doesn't care to make a lot of these cases "rape".

"In Wulfson's case, the jury found him guilty of strangling Steele, but not guilty of penetrating her vagina without her consent."

Not only that, he didn't even get found guilty of "aggravated sexual contact", when had he been tried, would probably have been found guilty (opinion, no fact).

In America less rape is prosecuted, not committed.

 

[Crepitus]

You have to wonder what kind of person the OP is when instead of wanting rapists locked away he tries to play number games.

If you wanted rapist locked away you wouldn't be supporting tRump.

 

[1srelluc]

If you wanted rapist locked away you wouldn't be supporting tRump.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Here you are defending the violent gang rape of children a few years ago:

Thread 'Who Is Tommy Robinson and What Is He About:'

May 29, 2018

Tommy Robinson is a tough, street-wise, cockney Englishman who has run afoul of the law a few times in his younger years but never in a way which is either contemptible or has brought harm to any innocent person. While he has paid the punitive price for his misdeeds he has since become a thorn in the side of the political power structure by brazenly calling attention to a situation which the law enforcement establishment in England has for years chosen to ignore.

That situation is the active presence of so-called "grooming gangs," comprised mainly of Pakistani Muslim migrants, who...

• MikeK
• Replies: 99
• Forum: Europe

• 

Post#52

"First you have to ask why there are these vulnerable children outside with nothing better to do that get tapped up by these guys.

You have to remember this wasn't forced rape. These girls were looking for something, comfort, support, whatever. Part of this is to do with how things changed in society."

Nope, that's not defending anyone.

Just because you don't understand what's going on.

Grooming, Sexual Manipulation, and Why It Can Be Difficult to Detect

In recent years, psychology and safeguarding research have increasingly focused on grooming behaviours, coercive manipulation, and the psychological processes involved in abusive dynamics — both on…

lindacjturner.com

"Grooming, Sexual Manipulation, and Why It Can Be Difficult to Detect"

"
Another major finding in abuse research is that many manipulative relationships follow identifiable stages:

1. targeting vulnerability
2. gaining trust
3. increasing emotional dependency
4. testing boundaries
5. creating confusion or control
6. maintaining secrecy or psychological dominance"
   

Often these people are vulnerable, but they're also willing because they trust the person, they're emotionally dependent on that person.

It is rape, because having sex with a child is always rape. Anyone over 16 having sex with anyone under 16 is rape.

Doesn't mean it's "forced rape" which is where the person says they don't want it.

Grooming can go from non-forced rape to forced rape over time.

 

[frigidweirdo]

You have to wonder what kind of person the OP is when instead of wanting rapists locked away he tries to play number games.

What numbers game? We're talking about statistics.

That airman would probably have been locked up had he been prosecuted under the jurisdiction that he committed the crime. I do not see any of you saying that airmen committing rape in the UK should be tried under UK law.

My post is about STATISTICS and how to read them and what to be wary of.

It's not about anything else.

If you wrote "I like bread", should I criticize you for not wanting criminals locked up because you did not talk about criminals being locked up in your sentence?

That's absurd.

 

[Crepitus]

But still true.

 

[JohnDB]

Propaganda....

People lie all the time to achieve goals.

Here's a lie that just got revealed

 

[frigidweirdo]

Propaganda....

People lie all the time to achieve goals.

Here's a lie that just got revealed

Where do you get your stats from?

You haven't posted a source for them.

 

[Leo123]

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/claim-uk-has-highest-rape-rate-developed-world-misses-key-context-2025-09-17/

"Online posts that claim the United Kingdom has the highest per capita rape rate among the world's developed economies are missing key context, including that rape in the UK is defined more broadly than in many other countries."

The UK and the US both have rape. But rape isn't just "rape".

The UK and US define rape completely differently. But people will still look at the statistics and point to the UK and say "look, the UK has higher rape rates, the US is better, probably because of our guns" even though Alaska, with loads of guns, has the highest rape rate in the US. (148.7 per 100,000 or 118.4 per 100,000 depending on which site you look at. Either way Arkansas is second with 72.3 or 77.2 per 100,000)

https://www.statspanda.com/us-state-topics/Rape%20Statistics

Rape Statistics by State 2026

Discover population, economy, health, and more with the most comprehensive global statistics at your fingertips.

worldpopulationreview.com

But we can see this for real in a case of a US pilot who raped a woman in the UK, but didn't get punished for rape under the US military "justice" system.

‘Degrading’: why did a US fighter pilot avoid British trial after strangling a woman in England?

Jacob Wulfson’s fellow airmen decided his fate after a court martial at RAF Lakenheath – a distressing week for Sarah Steele, the academic he assaulted

uk.yahoo.com

"In the criminal justice system for England and Wales, Wulfson's trial would probably have been held at the city's crown court, and the alleged offence categorised as rape. A jury of ordinary citizens – men and women – would have heard the case. If found guilty, a judge would have decided the sentence."

"However, Wulfson's case was tried at a court martial on a US airbase, despite his alleged crime taking place while he was off duty and in an English city. The proceedings followed US military law, and the offence was not charged as rape but as sexual assault and "aggravated sexual contact"."

This is why the US has a lower rape rate than the UK, not because there's less rape, but because the US doesn't care to make a lot of these cases "rape".

"In Wulfson's case, the jury found him guilty of strangling Steele, but not guilty of penetrating her vagina without her consent."

Not only that, he didn't even get found guilty of "aggravated sexual contact", when had he been tried, would probably have been found guilty (opinion, no fact).

Pretty soon whistling at a gorgeous babe will be called 'rape.'

 

[JohnDB]

Where do you get your stats from?

You haven't posted a source for them.

The link is in the big picture underneath....

You REALLY have issues with technology....

And the FBI under Kash has admitted to lying for decades.....they had the information for YEARS.....but denied having the statistics because they proved the exact opposite of their agenda.

Just like you don't want this to be true and destroy the narrative you want to promote.....you will do anything for it to be not true.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The link is in the big picture underneath....

You REALLY have issues with technology....

And the FBI under Kash has admitted to lying for decades.....they had the information for YEARS.....but denied having the statistics because they proved the exact opposite of their agenda.

Just like you don't want this to be true and destroy the narrative you want to promote.....you will do anything for it to be not true.

Nope, that's a link to the twitter page. That's not what I'm asking for.

I'm asking for the link to the statistics. You're claiming that it's not 3.7% but it's 36%. PROVE IT.

Spider Kash would admit to just about anything as long as it doesn't make himself look bad.

You need to prove they were lying, prove your statistics.

But I'm guess in proper MAGA style you'll just insult me instead and pretend you've made your argument.

 

[Muhammed]

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/claim-uk-has-highest-rape-rate-developed-world-misses-key-context-2025-09-17/

"Online posts that claim the United Kingdom has the highest per capita rape rate among the world's developed economies are missing key context, including that rape in the UK is defined more broadly than in many other countries."

The UK and the US both have rape. But rape isn't just "rape".

The UK and US define rape completely differently. But people will still look at the statistics and point to the UK and say "look, the UK has higher rape rates, the US is better, probably because of our guns" even though Alaska, with loads of guns, has the highest rape rate in the US. (148.7 per 100,000 or 118.4 per 100,000 depending on which site you look at. Either way Arkansas is second with 72.3 or 77.2 per 100,000)

https://www.statspanda.com/us-state-topics/Rape%20Statistics

Rape Statistics by State 2026

Discover population, economy, health, and more with the most comprehensive global statistics at your fingertips.

worldpopulationreview.com

But we can see this for real in a case of a US pilot who raped a woman in the UK, but didn't get punished for rape under the US military "justice" system.

‘Degrading’: why did a US fighter pilot avoid British trial after strangling a woman in England?

Jacob Wulfson’s fellow airmen decided his fate after a court martial at RAF Lakenheath – a distressing week for Sarah Steele, the academic he assaulted

uk.yahoo.com

"In the criminal justice system for England and Wales, Wulfson's trial would probably have been held at the city's crown court, and the alleged offence categorised as rape. A jury of ordinary citizens – men and women – would have heard the case. If found guilty, a judge would have decided the sentence."

"However, Wulfson's case was tried at a court martial on a US airbase, despite his alleged crime taking place while he was off duty and in an English city. The proceedings followed US military law, and the offence was not charged as rape but as sexual assault and "aggravated sexual contact"."

This is why the US has a lower rape rate than the UK, not because there's less rape, but because the US doesn't care to make a lot of these cases "rape".

"In Wulfson's case, the jury found him guilty of strangling Steele, but not guilty of penetrating her vagina without her consent."

Not only that, he didn't even get found guilty of "aggravated sexual contact", when had he been tried, would probably have been found guilty (opinion, no fact).

He's not guilty according to a jury of his peers.

Yet you insist he's guilty anyway, despite a TOTAL LACK OF EVIDENCE.

You are slandering him just because you're a low IQ anti-American piece of shit.

 

[frigidweirdo]

He's not guilty according to a jury of his peers.

Yet you insist he's guilty anyway, despite a TOTAL LACK OF EVIDENCE.

You are slandering him just because you're a low IQ anti-American piece of shit.

Peers? It was a military jury.

Oh, I'm anti-American because when Americans commit rape against people of other countries, we shouldn't be criticizing, we should be ENCOURAGING. Yeah, let's go rape EVERYONE, even British kids. Yeah, Make America Great Again.

You are seriously FUCKED UP.

 

[Meathead]

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/claim-uk-has-highest-rape-rate-developed-world-misses-key-context-2025-09-17/

"Online posts that claim the United Kingdom has the highest per capita rape rate among the world's developed economies are missing key context, including that rape in the UK is defined more broadly than in many other countries."

The UK and the US both have rape. But rape isn't just "rape".

The UK and US define rape completely differently. But people will still look at the statistics and point to the UK and say "look, the UK has higher rape rates, the US is better, probably because of our guns" even though Alaska, with loads of guns, has the highest rape rate in the US. (148.7 per 100,000 or 118.4 per 100,000 depending on which site you look at. Either way Arkansas is second with 72.3 or 77.2 per 100,000)

https://www.statspanda.com/us-state-topics/Rape%20Statistics

Rape Statistics by State 2026

Discover population, economy, health, and more with the most comprehensive global statistics at your fingertips.

worldpopulationreview.com

But we can see this for real in a case of a US pilot who raped a woman in the UK, but didn't get punished for rape under the US military "justice" system.

‘Degrading’: why did a US fighter pilot avoid British trial after strangling a woman in England?

Jacob Wulfson’s fellow airmen decided his fate after a court martial at RAF Lakenheath – a distressing week for Sarah Steele, the academic he assaulted

uk.yahoo.com

"In the criminal justice system for England and Wales, Wulfson's trial would probably have been held at the city's crown court, and the alleged offence categorised as rape. A jury of ordinary citizens – men and women – would have heard the case. If found guilty, a judge would have decided the sentence."

"However, Wulfson's case was tried at a court martial on a US airbase, despite his alleged crime taking place while he was off duty and in an English city. The proceedings followed US military law, and the offence was not charged as rape but as sexual assault and "aggravated sexual contact"."

This is why the US has a lower rape rate than the UK, not because there's less rape, but because the US doesn't care to make a lot of these cases "rape".

"In Wulfson's case, the jury found him guilty of strangling Steele, but not guilty of penetrating her vagina without her consent."

Not only that, he didn't even get found guilty of "aggravated sexual contact", when had he been tried, would probably have been found guilty (opinion, no fact).

I recall a few years back when Pakistan (of all places) reported no rapes.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I recall a few years back when Pakistan (of all places) reported no rapes.

Yeah, wouldn't surprise me. Raping your wife is perfectly legal in some countries. And the police probably don't care either. It's a man's world.

 

[Meathead]

Yeah, wouldn't surprise me. Raping your wife is perfectly legal in some countries. And the police probably don't care either. It's a man's world.

Or they just sent most of their rapists to the UK and lied about the rest.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Or they just sent most of their rapists to the UK and lied about the rest.

Most of the grooming gangs in the Pakistani community are from young males BORN IN THE UK.