‘This Is Not of God’: When Anti-Trump Evangelicals Confront Their Brethren

[Correll]

I don't believe you.


The political angle was obviously a major, if not the prime point of the article. Unless you cut and pasted a misleading piece.


Obviously yes.

Their is no religious nor philosophical reason to allow your enemies to gather strength while holding yourself aloof from supporting an ally, and one that is willing to advance your economic, social and religious agenda.

Hmmm..I'm guessing that you really are not in tune with the Christian angle, eh?

I gather that, one again, you have NOT read the article..and are continuing to comment based on the snippet i posted?

your disbelief as to my intent is noted...and smiled at***smile***

Didn't like my answer to your questions, huh?


Page 5 and no one is reading the linked article. Everyone can see what it is.


A political smear job.


If that is not the case, you should have been posting excerpts that show that.

Psychic, are you? For all you now hundreds have read the article while you prattle on--LOL! Why would I care about your wilful ignorance/ We all choose, right?

Your non-answers amuse me....as always..the crowd decides.

THe complete lack of comments from anyone answering as you supposedly wanted, is a hint.

Yup...But hey..I got you babe!

Not the convo i wanted...to be sure...but sometimes one has to choose amusement over enlightenment.

What religious "principle" is demonstrated by some lefty telling some Evangelical that "this is not of God"?



That seems divisive and hateful.

 

[LittleNipper]

How anyone who calls himself a Christian can support Trump is beyond me.
But then , many self-described Christians are in it for the money. The 'Prosperity Gospel ' is a wicked oxymoron.

Trump is not Christ --- unlike the Democrats, he doesn't claim to be perfect! PS> I do not believe in a Prosperity Gospel; however, I also do not believe that Christian ethics only comes into play when regarding poor voters.

 

[koshergrl]

He went to Liberty to cause trouble, and they wouldn't let him in.

Big whoop. It's a private Christian university. He should go to Berkeley and preach whatever it is he's preaching.

 

[Manonthestreet]

And do you think those that did sinned?

I think...that I'd like some cogent comment from you..I'm not here to answer questions one-sidedly. What do YOU think on the matter?

BTW...God determines who has sinned and who has not.

think I've made it clear the guys message is a fraud....

Well..as long as you are satisfied...LOL!

Whats not to be satisfied about...a choice has to be made.....you make the best choice with info available. He's playing the I'm holier than thou card...…...pretty sure that's a Pharisee approved message

A hint...your perception of other's motives..may not always be correct--and the reason's you decide as you do..have a lot to do with your inner world..and have nothing to do with me. The Pharisse's were traitors to Israel and collaborators with Rome..they loved money, and power. Less than a hundred years after Christ died...the Pharisee's did not exist..Israel did not exist. Our country appears weaker every day..tell me..who are today's Pharisees? Democrats? Republicans? Military-industrial complex? All of the above?

Pharisees were those who paraded their religion.....and were all about the Im more holy than you....Mr red letter is a pharisee

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

‘This Is Not of God’: When Anti-Trump Evangelicals Confront Their Brethren

I've wondered how people of faith are viewing Trump..this article was an eye-opener--The article is ong..this is just a brief quote:

The night before Shane Claiborne came to town to preach at a Christian revival, he received a letter from the chief of police at Liberty University warning that if he set foot on the property, he would be arrested for trespassing and face up to 12 months in jail and a $2,500 fine.

At first glance, Mr. Claiborne hardly appeared a threat to Liberty University, a dominant force in Lynchburg, Va., and a powerful engine in evangelical Christianity. Wearing baggy clothes that he sews himself, Mr. Claiborne preaches the Gospel, lives among the poor and befriends prisoners on death row, modeling his ministry on the life of Jesus.

But to the leaders of Liberty, he was a menace to their campus. He and his national network of liberal evangelicals, called the Red Letter Christians, were holding a revival meeting to protest in Liberty’s backyard. Their target: Jerry Falwell Jr., Liberty’s president and a man who has played a pivotal role in forging the alliance between white evangelicals and Donald J. Trump, who won 81 percent of their vote.

Mr. Claiborne and his group are the other evangelicals. The Red Letter Christians, a reference to the words of Jesus printed in some Bibles in red type, are not the evangelicals invited for interviews on Fox News or MSNBC. They don’t align neatly with either political party. But they have fierce moral and theological objections to those evangelicals who have latched onto Mr. Trump and the Republican Party.

“Let’s go where the Christians are, go where toxic Christianity lives,” Mr. Claiborne said last year, when proposing the idea for a revival in Lynchburg at an annual retreat for the Red Letter Christians.

The revival last month was the most energetic of several recent attempts by Christians in various camps to confront what they see as Mr. Trump’s “court evangelicals” selling out the faith. The critics have written columns, and a book called “Still Evangelical?” They convened a closed-door summit last month at Wheaton College. A number of bereaved, eminent elders plan a procession to the White House soon to hand over their manifesto, “Reclaiming Jesus: A Confession of Faith in a Time of Crisis.”

Mr. Claiborne and his group were far more audacious, but they also faced disappointment, resistance and fear. They were taking on Lynchburg, a company town where Liberty University is the biggest employer. Their “Red Letter Revival” revealed the state of the evangelical church in 2018: The loudest voices and institutional power and money are with Mr. Trump; the dissenters are fired-up, underfunded and scattered; and the vast majority of pastors are silent for fear of dividing their congregations or risking their jobs.

I'm always amazed why people make ops, and cut and paste the opening of their link that contains


NOTHING to suppor their point.



Their is nothing in this op, about why this evangelical is anti-Trump.

I'm always amazed at idiots who fail to read the entire link..thus basing their erroneous opinion on the excerpt..and I'm here to tell you...that I did not print my little excerpt because it illustrated my point..a point that is, in fact, unprovable..because it depends on subjective belief. I pasted the excerpt to give the reader a taste of what he was going to read, if he was interested. Not that you would understand a word i just wrote...BTW...they just believe that Trump dosen't embody Christian values..and thus..believe that for a Christian to support Trump..especially publicly--is a betrayal of sorts.

I agree.

A lot of typing to just say that you agree with the op.

Yet, nothing to support the argument. YOu just keep making the claim.



Standard use of Proof by Assertion logical fallacy as a type of propaganda.



Very common among lefties today.

Huh..this is the Religious forum..so...perhaps tactics that you use in the political forum are not appropriate?

Somehow, it escaped you that I'm not trying to prove anything...just trying for some opinions. Nothing more. Only an errant fool would believe that one can EVER prove anything in these internet forums. Agree or disagree..and move on...

Although this might be the religion an ethics forum, it is nonetheless about politics – the politics of abortion, and the politics of homosexuality.

The schism between these two Evangelical factions represents the ignorance, fear, authoritarianism, and bigotry practiced by the faction that supports Trump and the other faction which seeks to practice the acceptance and inclusion that should be the Christian message.

 

[Lysistrata]

How anyone who calls himself a Christian can support Trump is beyond me.
But then , many self-described Christians are in it for the money. The 'Prosperity Gospel ' is a wicked oxymoron.

President Trump is the leader of the American nation, not the leader of the Christian faith. He follows that imperfectly, as do I, as do most of us. What we are seeing in this nation are people who are willing to try something new, rather than the same ol'-same ol' politician. Therefore you can yell at us for willing to go out on a limb when your position is to convince us in joining those who are a stick in the mud, believing that is the best policy.

Trump is definitely NOT the leader of the American nation. He is a pig, not fit to lead anyone. I am an American. As for people who call themselves Christians and support him, this is a disgrace.

 

[IsaacNewton]

‘This Is Not of God’: When Anti-Trump Evangelicals Confront Their Brethren

I've wondered how people of faith are viewing Trump..this article was an eye-opener--The article is ong..this is just a brief quote:

The night before Shane Claiborne came to town to preach at a Christian revival, he received a letter from the chief of police at Liberty University warning that if he set foot on the property, he would be arrested for trespassing and face up to 12 months in jail and a $2,500 fine.

At first glance, Mr. Claiborne hardly appeared a threat to Liberty University, a dominant force in Lynchburg, Va., and a powerful engine in evangelical Christianity. Wearing baggy clothes that he sews himself, Mr. Claiborne preaches the Gospel, lives among the poor and befriends prisoners on death row, modeling his ministry on the life of Jesus.

But to the leaders of Liberty, he was a menace to their campus. He and his national network of liberal evangelicals, called the Red Letter Christians, were holding a revival meeting to protest in Liberty’s backyard. Their target: Jerry Falwell Jr., Liberty’s president and a man who has played a pivotal role in forging the alliance between white evangelicals and Donald J. Trump, who won 81 percent of their vote.

Mr. Claiborne and his group are the other evangelicals. The Red Letter Christians, a reference to the words of Jesus printed in some Bibles in red type, are not the evangelicals invited for interviews on Fox News or MSNBC. They don’t align neatly with either political party. But they have fierce moral and theological objections to those evangelicals who have latched onto Mr. Trump and the Republican Party.

“Let’s go where the Christians are, go where toxic Christianity lives,” Mr. Claiborne said last year, when proposing the idea for a revival in Lynchburg at an annual retreat for the Red Letter Christians.

The revival last month was the most energetic of several recent attempts by Christians in various camps to confront what they see as Mr. Trump’s “court evangelicals” selling out the faith. The critics have written columns, and a book called “Still Evangelical?” They convened a closed-door summit last month at Wheaton College. A number of bereaved, eminent elders plan a procession to the White House soon to hand over their manifesto, “Reclaiming Jesus: A Confession of Faith in a Time of Crisis.”

Mr. Claiborne and his group were far more audacious, but they also faced disappointment, resistance and fear. They were taking on Lynchburg, a company town where Liberty University is the biggest employer. Their “Red Letter Revival” revealed the state of the evangelical church in 2018: The loudest voices and institutional power and money are with Mr. Trump; the dissenters are fired-up, underfunded and scattered; and the vast majority of pastors are silent for fear of dividing their congregations or risking their jobs.

'Evangelicals' in the US outed themselves as not Christian by voting for Lying Trump in large numbers. They have no other religion except power and money. They reject the teachings of Christ outright, so they are not Christians.

They claim to be, but they aren't. They've been outed for good this time, all that Jerry Falwell crap was uber rake garbage designed also to make money and put people into power that steer money their way.

 

[Care4all]

There are evangelicals concerned with spreading the word of Jesus Christ as the way to salvation, and there are evangelicals who expound a social justice/progressive political philosophy couched in Gospel terms.

The Red Letter Christians fall into the latter category.

Nope///I disagree.

There are those Christians who are inclusive, as Christ preached..and there are those who are exclusive, twisting the Gospels to justify their cultural agenda of 'us vs them'. True Christians strive not to hate, but to heal.

The Red Letter Christians fall into the former category. Those truly attempting to live a Christ-like life..walking the walk..instead of just talking the talk...have always had difficulties and resistance from the established religious authorities.

Christianity is all about CHRIST. That is not all inclusive. And I'm sure that the RED LETTER TEXT of the Bible will support that fact.

Just the opposite.

 

[MaryAnne11]

‘This Is Not of God’: When Anti-Trump Evangelicals Confront Their Brethren

I've wondered how people of faith are viewing Trump..this article was an eye-opener--The article is ong..this is just a brief quote:

The night before Shane Claiborne came to town to preach at a Christian revival, he received a letter from the chief of police at Liberty University warning that if he set foot on the property, he would be arrested for trespassing and face up to 12 months in jail and a $2,500 fine.

At first glance, Mr. Claiborne hardly appeared a threat to Liberty University, a dominant force in Lynchburg, Va., and a powerful engine in evangelical Christianity. Wearing baggy clothes that he sews himself, Mr. Claiborne preaches the Gospel, lives among the poor and befriends prisoners on death row, modeling his ministry on the life of Jesus.

But to the leaders of Liberty, he was a menace to their campus. He and his national network of liberal evangelicals, called the Red Letter Christians, were holding a revival meeting to protest in Liberty’s backyard. Their target: Jerry Falwell Jr., Liberty’s president and a man who has played a pivotal role in forging the alliance between white evangelicals and Donald J. Trump, who won 81 percent of their vote.

Mr. Claiborne and his group are the other evangelicals. The Red Letter Christians, a reference to the words of Jesus printed in some Bibles in red type, are not the evangelicals invited for interviews on Fox News or MSNBC. They don’t align neatly with either political party. But they have fierce moral and theological objections to those evangelicals who have latched onto Mr. Trump and the Republican Party.

“Let’s go where the Christians are, go where toxic Christianity lives,” Mr. Claiborne said last year, when proposing the idea for a revival in Lynchburg at an annual retreat for the Red Letter Christians.

The revival last month was the most energetic of several recent attempts by Christians in various camps to confront what they see as Mr. Trump’s “court evangelicals” selling out the faith. The critics have written columns, and a book called “Still Evangelical?” They convened a closed-door summit last month at Wheaton College. A number of bereaved, eminent elders plan a procession to the White House soon to hand over their manifesto, “Reclaiming Jesus: A Confession of Faith in a Time of Crisis.”

Mr. Claiborne and his group were far more audacious, but they also faced disappointment, resistance and fear. They were taking on Lynchburg, a company town where Liberty University is the biggest employer. Their “Red Letter Revival” revealed the state of the evangelical church in 2018: The loudest voices and institutional power and money are with Mr. Trump; the dissenters are fired-up, underfunded and scattered; and the vast majority of pastors are silent for fear of dividing their congregations or risking their jobs.

Yea, sure they don't align with either political party, this group billed as liberal Christians who say that evangelicals who supported Trump are selling out the faith.

Liberals are not transparent except when they lie.

What really amazes me is that only 81% of evangelicals supported Trump. 19% thought maybe the Democrats were the better option? That lovable Church-friendly party?

Evangelists are not so called because they preach a social gospel, an "us v them" message that attacks the traditional American Christian community. They're evangelicals because they preach the Word of God, not abortion, welfare programs, and anti-republicanism.

So you say....I don't have that Hot Line to God...i just have to read the Bible..and it does NOT preach a message of hate.

If you don't have a hotline to God, please allow me to fill you in. Liberals, even those who call themselves Christian, have always been divisive. Liberals hate.

I doubt any Christian, Liberal or Conservative hates if they are following Jesus-words.

The only time he became angry was when he threw the Money Changers out of the Temple for cheating people. Jesus would be one busy guy today cleaning out the WH and Congress.

YOu argue against Christians hating.


Yet immediately claim that Jesus would be angry and drive the "money changer" out of the White House.


That very much supports norwegen's point about liberals being divisive and hateful.

Throwing the money changers out for cheating people was far from hate. It was righteous anger. Something that is sadly lacking in our Government today.. we need to find a Politician with that character today

You do not know the difference between the 2? Neither do those who voted for Trump.

 

[BULLDOG]

There are evangelicals concerned with spreading the word of Jesus Christ as the way to salvation, and there are evangelicals who expound a social justice/progressive political philosophy couched in Gospel terms.

The Red Letter Christians fall into the latter category.

The way to salvation isn't grabbing them by the pussy or cheating the people who have done work for you. I don't think lying is a requirement for salvation either.

 

[Correll]

‘This Is Not of God’: When Anti-Trump Evangelicals Confront Their Brethren

I've wondered how people of faith are viewing Trump..this article was an eye-opener--The article is ong..this is just a brief quote:

The night before Shane Claiborne came to town to preach at a Christian revival, he received a letter from the chief of police at Liberty University warning that if he set foot on the property, he would be arrested for trespassing and face up to 12 months in jail and a $2,500 fine.

At first glance, Mr. Claiborne hardly appeared a threat to Liberty University, a dominant force in Lynchburg, Va., and a powerful engine in evangelical Christianity. Wearing baggy clothes that he sews himself, Mr. Claiborne preaches the Gospel, lives among the poor and befriends prisoners on death row, modeling his ministry on the life of Jesus.

But to the leaders of Liberty, he was a menace to their campus. He and his national network of liberal evangelicals, called the Red Letter Christians, were holding a revival meeting to protest in Liberty’s backyard. Their target: Jerry Falwell Jr., Liberty’s president and a man who has played a pivotal role in forging the alliance between white evangelicals and Donald J. Trump, who won 81 percent of their vote.

Mr. Claiborne and his group are the other evangelicals. The Red Letter Christians, a reference to the words of Jesus printed in some Bibles in red type, are not the evangelicals invited for interviews on Fox News or MSNBC. They don’t align neatly with either political party. But they have fierce moral and theological objections to those evangelicals who have latched onto Mr. Trump and the Republican Party.

“Let’s go where the Christians are, go where toxic Christianity lives,” Mr. Claiborne said last year, when proposing the idea for a revival in Lynchburg at an annual retreat for the Red Letter Christians.

The revival last month was the most energetic of several recent attempts by Christians in various camps to confront what they see as Mr. Trump’s “court evangelicals” selling out the faith. The critics have written columns, and a book called “Still Evangelical?” They convened a closed-door summit last month at Wheaton College. A number of bereaved, eminent elders plan a procession to the White House soon to hand over their manifesto, “Reclaiming Jesus: A Confession of Faith in a Time of Crisis.”

Mr. Claiborne and his group were far more audacious, but they also faced disappointment, resistance and fear. They were taking on Lynchburg, a company town where Liberty University is the biggest employer. Their “Red Letter Revival” revealed the state of the evangelical church in 2018: The loudest voices and institutional power and money are with Mr. Trump; the dissenters are fired-up, underfunded and scattered; and the vast majority of pastors are silent for fear of dividing their congregations or risking their jobs.

I'm always amazed why people make ops, and cut and paste the opening of their link that contains


NOTHING to suppor their point.



Their is nothing in this op, about why this evangelical is anti-Trump.

I'm always amazed at idiots who fail to read the entire link..thus basing their erroneous opinion on the excerpt..and I'm here to tell you...that I did not print my little excerpt because it illustrated my point..a point that is, in fact, unprovable..because it depends on subjective belief. I pasted the excerpt to give the reader a taste of what he was going to read, if he was interested. Not that you would understand a word i just wrote...BTW...they just believe that Trump dosen't embody Christian values..and thus..believe that for a Christian to support Trump..especially publicly--is a betrayal of sorts.

I agree.

A lot of typing to just say that you agree with the op.

Yet, nothing to support the argument. YOu just keep making the claim.



Standard use of Proof by Assertion logical fallacy as a type of propaganda.



Very common among lefties today.

Huh..this is the Religious forum..so...perhaps tactics that you use in the political forum are not appropriate?

Somehow, it escaped you that I'm not trying to prove anything...just trying for some opinions. Nothing more. Only an errant fool would believe that one can EVER prove anything in these internet forums. Agree or disagree..and move on...

Although this might be the religion an ethics forum, it is nonetheless about politics – the politics of abortion, and the politics of homosexuality.

The schism between these two Evangelical factions represents the ignorance, fear, authoritarianism, and bigotry practiced by the faction that supports Trump and the other faction which seeks to practice the acceptance and inclusion that should be the Christian message.

Acceptance and inclusion like this?


"Trump is definitely NOT the leader of the American nation. He is a pig, not fit to lead anyone. I am an American. As for people who call themselves Christians and support him, this is a disgrace."




Yeah, way to unite.



NOT.

 

[Correll]

Yea, sure they don't align with either political party, this group billed as liberal Christians who say that evangelicals who supported Trump are selling out the faith.

Liberals are not transparent except when they lie.

What really amazes me is that only 81% of evangelicals supported Trump. 19% thought maybe the Democrats were the better option? That lovable Church-friendly party?

Evangelists are not so called because they preach a social gospel, an "us v them" message that attacks the traditional American Christian community. They're evangelicals because they preach the Word of God, not abortion, welfare programs, and anti-republicanism.

So you say....I don't have that Hot Line to God...i just have to read the Bible..and it does NOT preach a message of hate.

If you don't have a hotline to God, please allow me to fill you in. Liberals, even those who call themselves Christian, have always been divisive. Liberals hate.

I doubt any Christian, Liberal or Conservative hates if they are following Jesus-words.

The only time he became angry was when he threw the Money Changers out of the Temple for cheating people. Jesus would be one busy guy today cleaning out the WH and Congress.

YOu argue against Christians hating.


Yet immediately claim that Jesus would be angry and drive the "money changer" out of the White House.


That very much supports norwegen's point about liberals being divisive and hateful.

Throwing the money changers out for cheating people was far from hate. It was righteous anger. Something that is sadly lacking in our Government today.. we need to find a Politician with that character today

You do not know the difference between the 2? Neither do those who voted for Trump.

What we see today from liberals, is hate.


Is there one policy difference you have with Trump supporters that you don't consider evidence of them being bad people for disagreeing with your obviously right position?

 

[Meriweather]

Trump is definitely NOT the leader of the American nation. He is a pig, not fit to lead anyone. I am an American. As for people who call themselves Christians and support him, this is a disgrace.

Simple reality is that Donald Trump is President of the United States. I am Christian. I am American. I support the President who is doing his best to do what is best for this country. If anyone wishes to argue which policy is best for America, good deal, I am all for it. People who wish to bash our Presidents...I am not in favor of that; it brings shame upon all of us--not the President(s), but on us.

 

[Correll]

Trump is definitely NOT the leader of the American nation. He is a pig, not fit to lead anyone. I am an American. As for people who call themselves Christians and support him, this is a disgrace.

Simple reality is that Donald Trump is President of the United States. I am Christian. I am American. I support the President who is doing his best to do what is best for this country. If anyone wishes to argue which policy is best for America, good deal, I am all for it. People who wish to bash our Presidents...I am not in favor of that; it brings shame upon all of us--not the President(s), but on us.

They can't discuss policy. THey know their policies all suck ass.


So they have NOTHING but the politics of personal attacks and destruction.


And they have the nerve to claim we are "not of god".


They are assholes.

 

[Meriweather]

'Evangelicals' in the US outed themselves as not Christian by voting for Lying Trump in large numbers. They have no other religion except power and money. They reject the teachings of Christ outright, so they are not Christians.

They claim to be, but they aren't. They've been outed for good this time, all that Jerry Falwell crap was uber rake garbage designed also to make money and put people into power that steer money their way.

Predictable. Throw mud at a Christian group for the sin of an individual. Christians, Evangelicals: Do not let this distract you. People of faith voted for a candidate based on that candidate's belief that matters of conscience should prevail in the public square, in the business square. Those who work in the medical field should not be required to end life in the womb. Photographers should not be required to take photos they are uncomfortable shooting. Bakers should not be required to decorate a cake if those specifications go against their conscience.

Those of you who hate the President because you believe he should be forcing Catholic doctors to perform abortions, that he should force photographers to take pictures for the Man-Boy Love Association, that he should force all bakers to decorate specifically gay wedding cakes, go ahead and hate him. Otherwise, face up to the lies in your own lives. Bet you forgive yourself that which you are unwilling to forgive in someone else.

Yes, Donald Trump is an imperfect man. However, the President is clear on the ideals he supports, and some of these ideals are the same ideals Evangelicals and other people of faith support. We voted for a President who gets things done. That President also came with some personal sins. As do we all.

 

[LittleNipper]

There are evangelicals concerned with spreading the word of Jesus Christ as the way to salvation, and there are evangelicals who expound a social justice/progressive political philosophy couched in Gospel terms.

The Red Letter Christians fall into the latter category.

Nope///I disagree.

There are those Christians who are inclusive, as Christ preached..and there are those who are exclusive, twisting the Gospels to justify their cultural agenda of 'us vs them'. True Christians strive not to hate, but to heal.

The Red Letter Christians fall into the former category. Those truly attempting to live a Christ-like life..walking the walk..instead of just talking the talk...have always had difficulties and resistance from the established religious authorities.

Christianity is all about CHRIST. That is not all inclusive. And I'm sure that the RED LETTER TEXT of the Bible will support that fact.

Just the opposite.

Was a Democratic President in place when opening Bible exercises were eliminated from public schools? Were the Democrats in charge when Abortion became the law of the land? Was a Democratic President in control when Homosexuality became the the mandated equal with Marriage? And yet the Democrats become soooooooooooooooooooo "christian" when they speak of the poor and illegal immigrants... Why? It has nothing to do with morality or Christianity! They are seeking VOTES! Votes from Gays, votes from those associated with the illegals and votes from those who want irresponsible illicit sexual gratification. There is no mercy or love ---- only business as usual! They will reap exactly what they sow and they don't see GOD in any of the warnings all around! They are BLIND!!!!!

 

[Cellblock2429]

How anyone who calls himself a Christian can support Trump is beyond me.
But then , many self-described Christians are in it for the money. The 'Prosperity Gospel ' is a wicked oxymoron.

/——-/ That’s because you understand Christianity the way a pig understands algebra.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Trump is definitely NOT the leader of the American nation. He is a pig, not fit to lead anyone. I am an American. As for people who call themselves Christians and support him, this is a disgrace.

You may have been born here. That's about it.

 

[Lysistrata]

Trump is definitely NOT the leader of the American nation. He is a pig, not fit to lead anyone. I am an American. As for people who call themselves Christians and support him, this is a disgrace.

You may have been born here. That's about it.

Yes. I am an American. I am proud to be an American. We don't salute filthy pigs like trump and pence here. The people who call themselves Christian and support these to are a disgrace to both their country and their religion.

 

[Penelope]

There are evangelicals concerned with spreading the word of Jesus Christ as the way to salvation, and there are evangelicals who expound a social justice/progressive political philosophy couched in Gospel terms.

The Red Letter Christians fall into the latter category.

They are the real Christians.