This bullshit with Iran is escalating too fast.

[beautress]

We need to GET OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST and stop poking the fucking hornet nest.

Not fear
Not cowardice

PRUDENCE!


If a specific threat arises deal with it on a case by case basis.

Those sand crabs have been at war with everyone for CENTURIES. We aren't going to change that without FULL OCCUPATION.

COME HOME/NO WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST

It's a little late. Iran has announced it will retaliate against America all over the world. That's precisely what Osama bin Laden did in bringing his hatred onto this continent on 9/11/2001. It took us 10 years later to find him hiding out in Pakistan, the ultimate in false friends whose deep state protected our worst enemy for years.

post that link

JC456 "post that link"​

Live Updates: Iran Vows ‘Forceful Revenge’ After U.S. Kills General Live Updates: Iran Vows ‘Forceful Revenge’ After U.S. Kills General

 

[depotoo]

There was no imminent threat.

How would you know? Unless...your commie intel sources told you so, Synth.

Having said that.....I just don't think it was a prudent move for that strike.

I’m just going with the percentages. Trump lies about everything. Why not this?

Example: Trump has now told this lie 109 times. Obama signed this. Trump had nothing to do with it. Just another case of Trump taking credit for Obama’s work, and Obama’s success.

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the truth:


AP FACT CHECK: Trump takes credit for Obama’s gains for vets

Actually, he extended the program, then replaced it-
Trump Signs Bill to Extend Veterans Choice Program
Trump Signs $55 Billion Bill to Replace VA Choice Program

 

[Dragonlady]

The only thing that will come out of this is the Extermination & Annihilation of Iran's Military

Right,, piece of cake, just like Iraq, and here we are 20 years later and $ trillions in the hole, still in Iraq....

Iraq's military took about two weeks to destroy.

And Iraq's military wasn't a tenth of what Iran's is, yet we are still involved in Iraq, near 20 years later... So will the USA be involved in Iran 200 years later?

Prior to our attack on it, Iraq's military was bigger than Iran's, moron.

It’s not their military to have to fear dickwad. It’s ever Shia militant in Iran, and their children and their children’s children.

I hope you noticed that when the Iranians attacked the US Embassy compound, and set up camp outside it, the Iraqi military and police allowed them to do it and did nothing to defend the Embassy. After all you’ve done for the Iraqi people.

I realize that Trumpbots never think about the implications of their actions beyond the kneeslapping joy of sticking it to their perceived enemies but you would do well to remember that all such behaviors have far reaching consequences and that everyone Trump has attempted to slap down has coming roaring back in a big way.

Trump may be stupid but he knows that no one will follow him into war. No Congress, not the people, and I seriously doubt the Senate will either. 18 years of continual war has left the country broke and divided.

This is further evidence of the need to impeach Trump and quickly get him out of office.

 

[easyt65]

Trump plays with Checkers, he doesn't know how to play Chess....He does not think ahead. What is his strategy with this assassination? What move does he think the Iranians will take next? And what move does he think we will take, after that, etc?

the 1st comments are typical, unsubstantiated, subjective, Trump-hating opinion.

What is his strategy?
- Trump sent a message that the United States is not weak and will not sit back and be happy to play the part of Iran's 'victim', refusing to act when attacked. This response by Trump was not predictable - no one saw this coming. It definitely isn't something Obama would have done. This is something Iran now has to take into account before they act. They also now know Trump won't be bullied or intimidated. They know, unlike Obama, Trump won't offer up an 'olive branch' and ask 'what can we do to get you to like us more and be nicer' after attacks and such actions on their part. Again, instead, Trump will return the favor with an air strike to take out the ones who ordered the attacks.

There is an old saying: 'Talk softly, but carry a big stick'. Carrying that 'big stick' doesn't mean sh!te if people don't think you will use it. Barry drew a 'Red Line', and when it was crossed, his 'big stick' remained in his hand and was not used. Both allies and enemies knew at that moment Obama was 'all talk and no show'. Trump just proved he is no Obama and will use that 'stick' if he needs to.

What will Iran do now?
The guy who usually made those decisions has now been reduced to a finger wearing a ring. Iran named his 2nd in command as the leader of the Qud Forces, but this guy is just a step above Barney Fife as a sidekick / re[placement compared to him - I don't see HIM making the decision of what to do next.

It's got to be the Shah who will decide. Hopefully he does not make an 'emotional' response or he could attempt to escalate way too much, which they do not want. Iran has always been about, so far, ordering one of their surrogate organ-grinder-monkey surrogate terrorist groups abroad to retaliate so they can have 'plausible deniability'.

My biggest concern is actually for here in the United States. I am hoping that Obama's and the Democrats' obsession with eliminating our borders / keeping our borders as porous as a screen door on a submarine, allowing thousands and thousands of unknown, undocumented illegals / persons into the US, doesn't come back to bite us in the ass. We know there are pro Iranian sleeper cells in the US. We don't know how many or where. The Democrats Open Borders and Sanctuary cities have not helped.

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[Butch_Coolidge]

Did you cheer when they killed 608 American soldiers?


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No, but you cheer when our mercenary troops kill thousands of Iraqi civilians, all for the Oligarchy.

I’m not cheering for anyone. Don sanctioned what needed to be done. We are done paying those assholes billions of dollars, like oboe did. Another 911 can never be allowed to happen again.


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He did not need to do this. It was entirely unjustified, provocative, and will result in more dead Americans.

Tell me when Iran attacks our homeland. Then and only then, do we go to war.

Again, I don't think Trump wants war. He showed great restraint with the tanker business. The Iranian general was IN Iraq during a threat to our embassy. I think Iran has some explaining to do.

I especially like how Trump exercised "great restraint" in Syria...TWICE....Oh wait.

I'd lay odds that he got rolled again.

Goes with the job. You have any big decision to make today? What to choose from the value menu, or to supersize or not. Didn’t think so. Oboe just gave millions to terrorists. Maybe don’t vote trump again.


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[WEATHER53]

Libs weep for the terrorists and rail at those who eliminate terrorists

 

[bodecea]

A Muslim terrorist attacked an American embassy.

A strong American President took out the terrorist.

Democrats get pissed off and take the side of the terrorists.

Typical.

Political assassinations are now cool. #Becauseitsacult

 

[Flash]

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We do not hate this country.

Yea you do. You hate it because it isn't the socialist shithole you desire so much so you can get other people to pay your bills.

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

Fuck Trump. Fuck his war. Fuck every one of you sick motherfuckers who support him.

Maybe register and vote this time. Or maybe assist your terrorist friends, infidel.


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[Nostra]

A Muslim terrorist attacked an American embassy.

A strong American President took out the terrorist.

Democrats get pissed off and take the side of the terrorists.

Typical.

Political assassinations are now cool. #Becauseitsacult

He wasn't a politician, he was a terrorist.

 

[Brain357]

A Muslim terrorist attacked an American embassy.

A strong American President took out the terrorist.

Democrats get pissed off and take the side of the terrorists.

Typical.

Political assassinations are now cool. #Becauseitsacult

He wasn't a politician, he was a terrorist.

Yeah they said that about saddam too.

 

[beautress]

The only thing that will come out of this is the Extermination & Annihilation of Iran's Military

Right,, piece of cake, just like Iraq, and here we are 20 years later and $ trillions in the hole, still in Iraq....

Iraq's military took about two weeks to destroy.

And Iraq's military wasn't a tenth of what Iran's is, yet we are still involved in Iraq, near 20 years later... So will the USA be involved in Iran 200 years later?

Prior to our attack on it, Iraq's military was bigger than Iran's, moron.

It’s not their military to have to fear dickwad. It’s ever Shia militant in Iran, and their children and their children’s children.

I hope you noticed that when the Iranians attacked the US Embassy compound, and set up camp outside it, the Iraqi military and police allowed them to do it and did nothing to defend the Embassy. After all you’ve done for the Iraqi people.

I realize that Trumpbots never think about the implications of their actions beyond the kneeslapping joy of sticking it to their perceived enemies but you would do well to remember that all such behaviors have far reaching consequences and that everyone Trump has attempted to slap down has coming roaring back in a big way.

Trump may be stupid but he knows that no one will follow him into war. No Congress, not the people, and I seriously doubt the Senate will either. 18 years of continual war has left the country broke and divided.

This is further evidence of the need to impeach Trump and quickly get him out of office.

The Demmies handpick one of their most egregious and lying operatives to be the "whistleblower" and won't tell Republicans anything about the lies they made up to produce a bona-fide 'whistleblower' who gets special privileges of cover? How convenient. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: the postman rings twice.

 

[kyzr]

charwin95: DOUBLE BULLSHIT!
1. Obama's "coalition forces" were in your imagination. They just watched the ISIS Caliphate expand.
Here are real links proving how big ISIS got under Obama:
ISIL territorial claims - Wikipedia

NOTE THAT THE YEAR ISIS IS AT IT'S PEAK IS 2015 THANKS OBAMA!!
Maximum extent of ISIL's territorial control in Syria and Iraq in late 2015.

2. Trump unleashed the US military to attack ISIS and with the Kurds on the ground, completely eliminated the ISIS Caliphate by March 2019.
Operation Inherent Resolve - Wikipedia

3. Trump did not "abandon" the Kurds to Turkey, there was no "mass slaughter" of Kurds. Turkey was going to invade Syria to create a buffer zone with or without US troops present. Trump wisely withdrew from the Turkish invasion and their new "buffer zone". No US troops were injured during the Turkish invasion.
Trump then placed armor to protect the oil field that will be used by the Kurds to purchase weapons to defend their territory. The US is not going to go to war with NATO ally Turkey over a population that has been a problem child for a thousand years.
Esper: US troops, armored vehicles going to Syria oil fields

Trump suggests Kurds relocate as US considers deploying armored vehicles to protect oil fields

 

[jc456]

Fuck Trump. Fuck his war. Fuck every one of you sick motherfuckers who support him.

Just to be clear, what war are you assigning to Trump? The mess he was handed by 3 previous presidents or some kind of perceived war with Iran?

I want our troops out of there but let's keep the reasons we're there in perspective.

the left are unhinged people. their hatred interferes with their reality. wow. I continue to laugh and my balls continue to be sore.

Pretty sure DBlack isn't "left"

I know. I've been dealing with him now for almost two weeks. He's converting or something. I haven't figured it out. all of the sudden he is crawling in leftist's holes.

 

[jc456]

Obama: "Lets give Iran billions of dollars and pretend they are not terrorists, what could possibly go wrong?".

Iran: "Lets think that Trump is as weak as Obama, what could possibly go wrong?"

dude that is so old fashion. get some new material.

 

[jc456]

There was no imminent threat.

that man breathing made him an imminent threat. but you don't know shit about shit, so there's that.

Yeah we heard a lot about Saddam too. Who knows what’s true?

well they did find burial sites in Iraq. So we know that Saddam was killing his own people. That wasn't so much why were there, we went there for some WDM's, which they finally found.

Iraq and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia

Post-war discoveries and incidents[edit]
See also: WMD conjecture in the aftermath of the 2003 Iraq War
Since the 2003 invasion of Iraq, several reported finds of chemical weapons were announced, including half a dozen incidents during the invasion itself.

In April 2003, US Marines stumbled across a number of buildings which emitted unusual levels of radiation. Upon close inspection the troops uncovered "many, many drums" containing low-grade uranium, also known as yellowcake. According to an expert familiar with UN nuclear inspections, US troops had arrived at the Tuwaitha Nuclear Research Center and the material under investigation had been documented, stored in sealed containers and subject to supervision by the International Atomic Energy Agency since 1991.[105][106] The material was transported out of Iraq in July 2008 and sold to Canadian uranium producer Cameco Corp., in a transaction described as worth "tens of millions of dollars."[107][108]

A post-war case occurred on January 9, 2004, when Icelandic munitions experts and Danish military engineers discovered 36 120-mm mortar rounds containing liquid buried in Southern Iraq. While initial tests suggested that the rounds contained a blister agent, subsequent analysis by American and Danish experts showed that no chemical agent was present.[109]

No WMDs found. Iraq a complete disaster as is Afghanistan, which is still going on. When we mess around things always get worse.

then Clinton's CIA did a really bad job handing over all that material on the WMD's his squad said was there. Even the demofks said they were there. You talk yourself into your own traps sucker.

 

[White 6]

If the USA is attacked here, NATO won’t come to your aid. Period. You did this to yourselves and you did it deliberately.

You’re on your own.

Maybe we should leave Canada (and it's 2 tanks) and the rest of NATO to fend for themselves. Save a lot of US tax dollars.

We had NATO Allie support in the second Iraq war, that was sold partially as reaction to 9/11. Don't burn your bridges so casually. Sorry about the money spent on NATO. I did not know they took it out of your personal account. Hopefully you will not be forced to get a job.

It helps those nations to have their social programs.

We all see what we want to see, according to experience and personal bias. I see NATO as i did last I served. They are vital to resist aggression by old eastern Europe foes. That continent can change faster than you think. Both of the last times it suddenly changed, the world (the whole world) plunged into world war. It is easier to maintain troops, equipment, plans, strategies, trade, and other economic issues shared than to have to fight our way back across that continent to fix what we neglected.

 

[dblack]

How would you know? Unless...your commie intel sources told you so, Synth.

Having said that.....I just don't think it was a prudent move for that strike.

why not? take out evil when one has a chance in battle.

Why? There is going to be a ripple effect from this. I believe a lot of innocent lives are going to be lost.
I'm just not convinced this was the hill for a battle. Just my opinion, jc.

The only thing that will come out of this is the Extermination & Annihilation of Iran's Military

Perhaps you're forgetting the whole terrorism thing. This will inspire a whole new generation of desperate zealots. Go team!

Again, 90% of Iran's, Russia's, and Turkey's Allied Armies are Obliterated off of the face of The Earth not by any human army. They are destroyed on The Mountains of Israel by Hellfire, Hailstones, Brimstone, Pestilence......

Fuck your religion and your god.

 

[jc456]

Fuck Trump. Fuck his war. Fuck every one of you sick motherfuckers who support him.

Also, fuck the Democrats for being so focused on socialism that they've let an insane idiot take over the nation.

Hillary is a socialist?

I won't quibble with you over definitions - so let's skip that game. The bottom line is, Democrats could take back the country in a heartbeat if they'd only listen to the voters they've lost and adjust their platform. Instead they double down on the same shit that's turned so many people away.

Oh yeah? Obama and Hillary gave Russia 6 islands in the Aleutians that are known to have vast oil reserves. Obama and Hillary gave Russia 20% of America's uranium reserves while the Clinton Law Library received a couple of million in donations from Russia, carte blanche. Then Hillary's spin room people created a false scenario of Naked Trump with two Prostitutes jumping on a bed in Russia that Hillary had slept in and they allegedly pee peed all over the bed which horrified most of America except those of us who know better. Then, to put a cherry on top of this little banana split with reality, they claimed they had damning evidence that Trump was there to collude with Russia. Trump denied it because he knew he wasn't there, #1 and because he couldn't speak Russian, #2. The Demonrats who concocted this cock-and-bull Steel dossier then claimed , Oh yes, he did, when no, he didn't.

All the subsequent spending that resulted in "no collusion" was hated by the Demonrats who didn't like to be outdone, so they doubled down on the "insurance policy" and went for impeachment, to destroy the man who popularly beat Hillary's flimsy campaign due to her own disconnect with the American people by recruiting millions of illegals to vote for her, which didn't work out so well since she ignored the laws of right and wrong, she ignored the power of the college of electors, and she ignored the warning of the ten commandments not to bear false witness. Now the creepsister is hiding out in Ireland, and Ireland better take notice of how she will use any power they give her against anybody she pleases to destroy them by any means and false scenario they grant her. She's a traitor and now she's proving her real alliance is not with America by moving out of the country rather than accounting for her atrocious false charges that came from her spin-room created "Steele dossier" intentionally misnamed when it was actually the Hillary Clinton crib sheet targeting a coup of President Trump with a corrupt Congress to do it with. Pelosi. Nadler. Schiff. Deep state rats.

How much has that all cost american citizens? And still a nothing burger, while exposing the corruption that actually did take place? In Ukraine? wow, swamp creature city.

 

[jc456]

why not? take out evil when one has a chance in battle.

Why? There is going to be a ripple effect from this. I believe a lot of innocent lives are going to be lost.
I'm just not convinced this was the hill for a battle. Just my opinion, jc.

The only thing that will come out of this is the Extermination & Annihilation of Iran's Military

Perhaps you're forgetting the whole terrorism thing. This will inspire a whole new generation of desperate zealots. Go team!

Again, 90% of Iran's, Russia's, and Turkey's Allied Armies are Obliterated off of the face of The Earth not by any human army. They are destroyed on The Mountains of Israel by Hellfire, Hailstones, Brimstone, Pestilence......

Fuck your religion and your god.

dude, what happened to you? you went to the dark side Adakin.