Iran Absurd Arguments

[SaxonJackson]

I suspect we will end-up having to kill them in wholesale lots.

Bibi's family? I'm on board.

 

[Zavulon]

Sure.

There is no propaganda which denigrates America or Israel which you won’t buy as though it was real.

There is nothing to denigrate. There were terms of ceasefire, they were openly published. First Trump wrote that he agree. Then Israel continued their bombing campaign in Lebadon, levelling towns and murdering hundreds of civilians. And then Trump said that he doesn't agree with already published terms. Those are facts.

And I see three possible explanation of those facts:
1) There was the agreement but Israel spoiled it and Trump just took his words back, ruined the reputation of American diplomacy, because Israel has some real dirt on him.
2) Trump, from the very beginning wasn't interested neither in ceasefire nor in peace. All he wanted was manipulation of oil markets or some face-saving shows after his pretty loud words about civilization destruction. And he used Israel as pretext against possible ceasefire, ordered them to attack Lebadon.
3) Pakistan staged America by giving them fake text of ceasefire agreement (without Lebadon) and now they are gaslighting world's political community.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Yep. It's Hezbollah, and they followed the order to hold the fire from Iran for many hours, while Israel have been bombing them. But finally, when it became clear that Israel is not going to follow ceasefire, they formally ended it.

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‘In the name of Allah, the most Merciful, the Beneficent: In defense of Lebanon and its people, and in response to the enemy's violation of the ceasefire agreement, after the Resistance adhered to the ceasefire while the enemy did not:

The fighters of the Islamic Resistance in Lebanon targeted the Manara settlement with rockets at 02:30 on Thursday, 09-04-2026.

Our responses will continue until the Israeli-American aggression against our country and our people ceases.’
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It's not "disputed". The terms of ceasefire were published by the intermediator, which was Pakistan, and both sides agreed on them.
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If this is US-lead coalition (very big IF) then its clear that Trump wasn't really interested neither in the ceasefire nor in the peace. He was just manipulating oil markets or play some political games.

It's really very simple, Pakistan and Iran say the ceasefire must include both Hezbollah and the Houthis and Israel and the US say it doesn't. If the ayatollahs feel strongly enough about it, I guess they will refuse the ceasefire offer, otherwise the will abide by what the US and Israel say the terms of the ceasefire are.

 

[BackAgain]

There is nothing to denigrate. There were terms of ceasefire, they were openly published.

You are — as usual — factually wrong.

No need to wade through any more of your bullshit efforts at propaganda Putin boi.

 

[kyzr]

Hormuz is still closed, start bombing the powerplants slowly until its open.

 

[kyzr]

Let me recap for the democrats with TDS.
1. Someone in the UN noticed that Iran was enriching uranium for a nuclear bomb.
2. Those "diplomat weenies" came up with the JCPOA, which was flawed since it was only a 10-year agreement, after that Iran had no restrictions.
3. To entice Iran the weenies gave Iran their sanctioned $56,000,000,000 because they promised not to enrich uranium.
4. Iran promptly took that $56b and used it to enrich uranium and develop ICBMs.
5. Iran is a "state sponsor of terrorism", they support Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis
6. Trump said that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon and to his credit took positive steps to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons and ICBMs by operation "Midnight Hammer" which destroyed Iran's centrifuges, and Operation "Epic Fury" which destroyed most of Iran's military and weapon manufacturing, including removing the top layers of Iran's leadership.

7. Iran closed the Hormuz strait and attacked the surrounding Gulf states and NATO member Turkey, whereby President Trump asked NATO to join the US to open Hormuz and remove the terrorist regime and replace it with a non-terrorist government, which is actually enforcing the intent of the flawed JCPOA. To no one's surprise none of the weenie countries wanted to join with the US to open Hormuz and perform a regime change, they prefer letting Iran run roughshod over their weenie democracies.

8. Trump should say "open the f_ckin' strait or we start bombing powerplants slowly until its open.

 

[Stryder50]

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[CrusaderFrank]

Can you provide where you got it or not?

Why do you comment when you're unaware of things that are all over the news?

 

[OldFlame]

Why do you comment when you're unaware of things that are all over the news?

You're the one that won't say the source of your 'list', yet try to make me out to be the ignorant one. Is it from the US government, Trump Admin, NYT, Iran? Which 'list' are you saying as valid?

 

[eagle1462010]

Iran's 10-point conditions that the US has accepted as "workable":

The US is fundamentally committed to:
Non-aggression
Continuation of Iran's control over the Strait of Hormuz
Acceptance of enrichment
Lifting all primary sanctions
Lifting all secondary sanctions
Termination of all UN Security Council resolutions
Termination of all IAEA Board of Governors resolutions
Payment of compensation to Iran
Withdrawal of US combat forces from the region
Cessation of war on all fronts, including against the heroic Islamic Resistance of Lebanon.

Trump, supposedly the senior member of the Alliance, said this was an acceptable basis; Bibi vetoed

Therefore American deaths from that point forward are because Bibi was prosecuting his own war and we are just following his orders

Acceptance of Enrichment......

 

[Zavulon]

Let's wait a little.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Let's wait a little.

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Israel is open to talks with the Lebanese government about disarming Hezbollah and peace between Israel and Lebanon but has refused a ceasefire.

 

[Zavulon]

Israel is open to talks with the Lebanese government about disarming Hezbollah and peace between Israel and Lebanon but has refused a ceasefire.

We'll see.

 

[OldFlame]

Acceptance of Enrichment......

Exactly, he must have taken that right from the IRCG website, if they even have one, so must have come off of some Jewish hate site. He won't say where he got it.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Take your meds

Don't Mess with Mossad

Take your mengeles.

 

[toomuchtime_]

We'll see.
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No link and it is highly doubtful the it is true, but even if it were, what would this have to do with a ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Where did you get that 'list' from?

You've become nothing but a terrorist sympathizer.

Appease Porridge in the Pot, 47 Years Old


Neville Chamberlain lent him a copy of the Munich Agreement.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Bibi's family? I'm on board.

Be with Bibi or Be Nowhere

 

[BackAgain]

There is nothing to denigrate. There were terms of ceasefire, they were openly published.

You lie. Again.

The framework of the ceasefire was agreed to but the subsequent Iranian 10 point proposal was just that. A subsequent proposal. It was absolutely not an agreement.

First Trump wrote that he agree.

Noting. He accepted the repoint plan as simply a proposal for further negotiations. Nothing more.

Then Israel continued their bombing campaign in Lebadon,

Wrong. There was no campaign. They were simply continuing to strike back at the Hezbollah vermin who were engaged in perpetrating war against Israel. Lebanon was not a part of the ceasefire. At all. Not ever.

levelling towns and murdering hundreds of civilians.

Blatantly dishonest propaganda. You suck af this.

And then Trump said that he doesn't agree with already published terms. Those are facts.

No. Those are not facts; they are lies.

 

[Zavulon]

Israel is open to talks with the Lebanese government about disarming Hezbollah and peace between Israel and Lebanon but has refused a ceasefire.

If they are still refusing the ceasefire, there will be no negotiations tomorrow.