These are the people you folks want to kick out.

[Bfgrn]

Much of the responsibility for this lies with the United States.

We have crushed the agriculture in Mexico and since we buy drugs from the countries these kids are running from, we are a direct cause of the drug violence.

Be that as it may, there is no huge crisis. Nor are our resources are being stretched thin. We're the richest country in the world with a population of 300 million and there are fewer than 100K desperate kids. Do the math.

The responsibility lies with the government of those countries where they are coming from, Lud.
They are corrupt and have been corrupt for a long long time.
That's on them and not us.

Here's How The U.S. Sparked A Refugee Crisis On The Border, In 8 Simple Steps

The 57,000 children from Central America who have streamed across the U.S.-Mexico border this year were driven in large part by the United States itself. While Democrats and Republicans have been pointing fingers at each other, in reality the current wave of migration from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras has its roots in six decades of U.S. policies carried out by members of both parties.

Since the 1950s, the U.S. has sown violence and instability in Central America. Decades of Cold War gamesmanship, together with the relentless global war on drugs, have left a legacy of chaos and brutality in these countries. In many parts of the region, civil society has given way to lawlessness. It's these conditions the children are escaping.

The story of the U.S.-led destabilization of Central America began in 1954, with the overthrow of the elected Guatemalan government of President Jacobo Arbenz. A populist leader inspired by President Franklin Roosevelt’s “New Deal,” Arbenz had plans for an ambitious land redistribution program that aimed to help a nation composed largely of landless farmers.

But those plans butted against the interests of the United Fruit Company, a U.S. corporation that owned much of Guatemala’s arable land, along with railroad infrastructure and a port. The CIA helped engineer the overthrow of the Arbenz government, laying the foundation for decades of government instability and, eventually, a civil war that would claim more than 200,000 lives by the 1980s. That war wasn't fully resolved until the 1990s.

“Our involvement in Central America has not been a very positive one over the last 60 years,” Rep. Beto O’Rourke, a Democrat from El Paso, Texas, told The Huffington Post. “You can go back to the coup that overthrew Jacobo Arbenz in 1954, fully backed by the Eisenhower administration and the Dulles brothers, who had an interest in the United Fruit company, whose fight with the government really precipitated the crisis that led to the coup."

It set a pattern. "You look at the decades following that, and the military strongmen, and the juntas, and the mass killings, and it's no wonder Guatemala is in such terrible shape today," O'Rourke said.

Along with the decades-long war against leftists in Guatemala, the U.S. organized and funded El Salvador's protracted war with the FMLN, a left-wing guerrilla movement. The U.S. also funded counterinsurgency efforts in Honduras, which became a staging ground for the Contras. Death squads flourished, more than 75,000 people died and civil society collapsed.

If today's crisis were simply a result of Central American confusion about the president's policy regarding immigrant children, as is widely alleged, one might expect children to be coming in equal numbers from every Central American country. But notably, Nicaragua -- a country that borders Honduras, and one in which the U.S. failed to keep a far-left government from coming to power -- is today relatively stable and not a source of rampant migration. It is led by President Daniel Ortega, whose Sandinista movement took power in 1979 and held off the U.S.-backed Contras until an opposition government was elected in 1990.

"You see the direct effects of these Cold War policies," Greg Grandin, a professor of Latin American history at New York University, told The Huffington Post. "Nicaragua doesn’t really have a gang problem, and researchers have traced this back to the 1980s and U.S. Cold War policy."

With wars come refugees. The young people who streamed into the United States from Central America in the late '70s and '80s had deep experience with violence.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Much of the responsibility for this lies with the United States.

We have crushed the agriculture in Mexico and since we buy drugs from the countries these kids are running from, we are a direct cause of the drug violence.

Be that as it may, there is no huge crisis. Nor are our resources are being stretched thin. We're the richest country in the world with a population of 300 million and there are fewer than 100K desperate kids. Do the math.

The responsibility lies with the government of those countries where they are coming from, Lud.
They are corrupt and have been corrupt for a long long time.
That's on them and not us.

Here's How The U.S. Sparked A Refugee Crisis On The Border, In 8 Simple Steps

The 57,000 children from Central America who have streamed across the U.S.-Mexico border this year were driven in large part by the United States itself. While Democrats and Republicans have been pointing fingers at each other, in reality the current wave of migration from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras has its roots in six decades of U.S. policies carried out by members of both parties.

Since the 1950s, the U.S. has sown violence and instability in Central America. Decades of Cold War gamesmanship, together with the relentless global war on drugs, have left a legacy of chaos and brutality in these countries. In many parts of the region, civil society has given way to lawlessness. It's these conditions the children are escaping.

The story of the U.S.-led destabilization of Central America began in 1954, with the overthrow of the elected Guatemalan government of President Jacobo Arbenz. A populist leader inspired by President Franklin Roosevelt’s “New Deal,” Arbenz had plans for an ambitious land redistribution program that aimed to help a nation composed largely of landless farmers.

But those plans butted against the interests of the United Fruit Company, a U.S. corporation that owned much of Guatemala’s arable land, along with railroad infrastructure and a port. The CIA helped engineer the overthrow of the Arbenz government, laying the foundation for decades of government instability and, eventually, a civil war that would claim more than 200,000 lives by the 1980s. That war wasn't fully resolved until the 1990s.

“Our involvement in Central America has not been a very positive one over the last 60 years,” Rep. Beto O’Rourke, a Democrat from El Paso, Texas, told The Huffington Post. “You can go back to the coup that overthrew Jacobo Arbenz in 1954, fully backed by the Eisenhower administration and the Dulles brothers, who had an interest in the United Fruit company, whose fight with the government really precipitated the crisis that led to the coup."

It set a pattern. "You look at the decades following that, and the military strongmen, and the juntas, and the mass killings, and it's no wonder Guatemala is in such terrible shape today," O'Rourke said.

Along with the decades-long war against leftists in Guatemala, the U.S. organized and funded El Salvador's protracted war with the FMLN, a left-wing guerrilla movement. The U.S. also funded counterinsurgency efforts in Honduras, which became a staging ground for the Contras. Death squads flourished, more than 75,000 people died and civil society collapsed.

If today's crisis were simply a result of Central American confusion about the president's policy regarding immigrant children, as is widely alleged, one might expect children to be coming in equal numbers from every Central American country. But notably, Nicaragua -- a country that borders Honduras, and one in which the U.S. failed to keep a far-left government from coming to power -- is today relatively stable and not a source of rampant migration. It is led by President Daniel Ortega, whose Sandinista movement took power in 1979 and held off the U.S.-backed Contras until an opposition government was elected in 1990.

"You see the direct effects of these Cold War policies," Greg Grandin, a professor of Latin American history at New York University, told The Huffington Post. "Nicaragua doesn’t really have a gang problem, and researchers have traced this back to the 1980s and U.S. Cold War policy."

With wars come refugees. The young people who streamed into the United States from Central America in the late '70s and '80s had deep experience with violence.

Correct.

The cause of the issue is complex and varied, dating back decades, having nothing to do with the current Administration and its immigration policies. To maintain otherwise is partisan idiocy.

 

[skookerasbil]

God dang Sallow you are one sorry-ass limpwrister......buckle up your chinstrap s0n!!

As usual, you take the fringe view......what a surprise. All the PC whores do!!


Poll: Americans Don't Like Obama's Border Policy | The Daily Caller



lOsInG

 

[skookerasbil]

Nobody in America wants to hear dick from the bleeding hearts unless you are heading to the refugee center to take a handful of the kids home. Otherwise, nobody cares.


Pull up your pants

 

[Sallow]

Much of the responsibility for this lies with the United States.

We have crushed the agriculture in Mexico and since we buy drugs from the countries these kids are running from, we are a direct cause of the drug violence.

Be that as it may, there is no huge crisis. Nor are our resources are being stretched thin. We're the richest country in the world with a population of 300 million and there are fewer than 100K desperate kids. Do the math.

Oh, yeah... all our fault.

I'm sooooooo phukking tired of watching UberLibs put on the hair-shirt and pour earth over their heads and piss and moan and wail and gnash their teeth and flagellate and do public penance over how rotten-bad America is and how everything is our fault.

Friggin' enough already... tough shit.

Give Illegal Aliens (of any age) an inch, and they'll take a mile.

Let 100K in today, and you let-in another 200K (the mother and father for each) tomorrow.

Not to mention their siblings, and grandparents, and aunts, and uncles, and cousins, and their friends and neighbors and dogs and cats and red-headed step-children in the Harry Potter closet under the stairwell.

More importantly, let 100K in today, and 1,000,000 more will try the very same goddamned frigging thing next year.

We've already got 12,000,000 Illegal Alien invaders present upon United States soil, to deal with.

The time to stop this shit is at the beginning.

"No" means "no".

Well yeah it is our fault.

We've invaded most of these countries. With troops. We've told them what kind of governments we will tolerate in their nations. We've carried out "drug wars" which do nothing but concentrate the gangsters in different areas. We supply the gangsters with guns and we buy what the gangsters are selling.

The people coming here are the ones that are getting killed as a result of that.

It's funny that when we cause problems in places like Iraq, and refugees flee, by the millions into Jordan and Turkey, we tell them to "suck it up" because it's the "humanitarian" thing to do.

 

[Sallow]

God dang Sallow you are one sorry-ass limpwrister......buckle up your chinstrap s0n!!

As usual, you take the fringe view......what a surprise. All the PC whores do!!


Poll: Americans Don't Like Obama's Border Policy | The Daily Caller



lOsInG

The Daily Caller huh?

That the same Daily Caller that paid a prostitute to lie about having sex with Sen. Robert Menendez ?

Oh yeah..it is.

Did Daily Caller pay to frame Menendez? - The Washington Post

 

[Sallow]

Much of the responsibility for this lies with the United States.

We have crushed the agriculture in Mexico and since we buy drugs from the countries these kids are running from, we are a direct cause of the drug violence.

Be that as it may, there is no huge crisis. Nor are our resources are being stretched thin. We're the richest country in the world with a population of 300 million and there are fewer than 100K desperate kids. Do the math.

The responsibility lies with the government of those countries where they are coming from, Lud.
They are corrupt and have been corrupt for a long long time.
That's on them and not us.

Here's How The U.S. Sparked A Refugee Crisis On The Border, In 8 Simple Steps

The 57,000 children from Central America who have streamed across the U.S.-Mexico border this year were driven in large part by the United States itself. While Democrats and Republicans have been pointing fingers at each other, in reality the current wave of migration from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras has its roots in six decades of U.S. policies carried out by members of both parties.

Since the 1950s, the U.S. has sown violence and instability in Central America. Decades of Cold War gamesmanship, together with the relentless global war on drugs, have left a legacy of chaos and brutality in these countries. In many parts of the region, civil society has given way to lawlessness. It's these conditions the children are escaping.

The story of the U.S.-led destabilization of Central America began in 1954, with the overthrow of the elected Guatemalan government of President Jacobo Arbenz. A populist leader inspired by President Franklin Roosevelt’s “New Deal,” Arbenz had plans for an ambitious land redistribution program that aimed to help a nation composed largely of landless farmers.

But those plans butted against the interests of the United Fruit Company, a U.S. corporation that owned much of Guatemala’s arable land, along with railroad infrastructure and a port. The CIA helped engineer the overthrow of the Arbenz government, laying the foundation for decades of government instability and, eventually, a civil war that would claim more than 200,000 lives by the 1980s. That war wasn't fully resolved until the 1990s.

“Our involvement in Central America has not been a very positive one over the last 60 years,” Rep. Beto O’Rourke, a Democrat from El Paso, Texas, told The Huffington Post. “You can go back to the coup that overthrew Jacobo Arbenz in 1954, fully backed by the Eisenhower administration and the Dulles brothers, who had an interest in the United Fruit company, whose fight with the government really precipitated the crisis that led to the coup."

It set a pattern. "You look at the decades following that, and the military strongmen, and the juntas, and the mass killings, and it's no wonder Guatemala is in such terrible shape today," O'Rourke said.

Along with the decades-long war against leftists in Guatemala, the U.S. organized and funded El Salvador's protracted war with the FMLN, a left-wing guerrilla movement. The U.S. also funded counterinsurgency efforts in Honduras, which became a staging ground for the Contras. Death squads flourished, more than 75,000 people died and civil society collapsed.

If today's crisis were simply a result of Central American confusion about the president's policy regarding immigrant children, as is widely alleged, one might expect children to be coming in equal numbers from every Central American country. But notably, Nicaragua -- a country that borders Honduras, and one in which the U.S. failed to keep a far-left government from coming to power -- is today relatively stable and not a source of rampant migration. It is led by President Daniel Ortega, whose Sandinista movement took power in 1979 and held off the U.S.-backed Contras until an opposition government was elected in 1990.

"You see the direct effects of these Cold War policies," Greg Grandin, a professor of Latin American history at New York University, told The Huffington Post. "Nicaragua doesn’t really have a gang problem, and researchers have traced this back to the 1980s and U.S. Cold War policy."

With wars come refugees. The young people who streamed into the United States from Central America in the late '70s and '80s had deep experience with violence.

And that's the funny thing. Conservatives have railed against "leftist" governments in the region like crazy.

But the countries that have managed to fight off American Imperialism, like Venezuela and Nicaragua aren't the sources of migration. Quite the contrary. The citizens of those countries actually have a "buy in" with their respective governments. As they are "home grown".

And although that is clearly the case? It's a lesson that most conservatives never get.

 

[Sallow]

Much of the responsibility for this lies with the United States.

We have crushed the agriculture in Mexico and since we buy drugs from the countries these kids are running from, we are a direct cause of the drug violence.

Be that as it may, there is no huge crisis. Nor are our resources are being stretched thin. We're the richest country in the world with a population of 300 million and there are fewer than 100K desperate kids. Do the math.

The responsibility lies with the government of those countries where they are coming from, Lud.
They are corrupt and have been corrupt for a long long time.
That's on them and not us.

No it's not.

It's on us. Those are the government we installed.

 

[JoeB131]

Explain something to me, Sallow:

Would you like it if your government suddenly forced you to house, feed, clothe, and practically accommodate complete strangers in your own home? Would you let me live in your home for free? No? Then why are we letting all of these illegals stream across the border? Why are we dumping them on unsuspecting municipalities under the guise of compassion?

I think not.

Yeah, Runs with Scissors might have to compete with one of them for that busboy position he never applies for.

We are not letting them "Stream" across the border. They are being stopped at the border and processed in accordance with a law George W. Bush signed.

WHen these kids get asylum, they'll probably be more productive than you.

 

[Meister]

Much of the responsibility for this lies with the United States.

We have crushed the agriculture in Mexico and since we buy drugs from the countries these kids are running from, we are a direct cause of the drug violence.

Be that as it may, there is no huge crisis. Nor are our resources are being stretched thin. We're the richest country in the world with a population of 300 million and there are fewer than 100K desperate kids. Do the math.

The responsibility lies with the government of those countries where they are coming from, Lud.
They are corrupt and have been corrupt for a long long time.
That's on them and not us.

No it's not.

It's on us. Those are the government we installed.

They had bad governments all along, Sal.

 

[zeke]

Explain something to me, Sallow:

Would you like it if your government suddenly forced you to house, feed, clothe, and practically accommodate complete strangers in your own home? Would you let me live in your home for free? No? Then why are we letting all of these illegals stream across the border? Why are we dumping them on unsuspecting municipalities under the guise of compassion?

I think not.

Yeah, Runs with Scissors might have to compete with one of them for that busboy position he never applies for.

We are not letting them "Stream" across the border. They are being stopped at the border and processed in accordance with a law George W. Bush signed.

WHen these kids get asylum, they'll probably be more productive than you.

LMAO. Maybe there could be a trade? I would trade Temple for 100 immigrant children.
I got a feeling that we in the USA would be getting the better deal in that trade. At least these kids will eventually find a job.

Something Temple seems to have no interest in.

 

[Kondor3]

...LMAO. Maybe there could be a trade? I would trade Temple for 100 immigrant children....

Doesn't matter... Templar has a right to be here... those Illegal Alien kids do not... and you and I are under a legal obligation to abide by those differences in status.

 

[Kondor3]

Much of the responsibility for this lies with the United States.

We have crushed the agriculture in Mexico and since we buy drugs from the countries these kids are running from, we are a direct cause of the drug violence.

Be that as it may, there is no huge crisis. Nor are our resources are being stretched thin. We're the richest country in the world with a population of 300 million and there are fewer than 100K desperate kids. Do the math.

Oh, yeah... all our fault.

I'm sooooooo phukking tired of watching UberLibs put on the hair-shirt and pour earth over their heads and piss and moan and wail and gnash their teeth and flagellate and do public penance over how rotten-bad America is and how everything is our fault.

Friggin' enough already... tough shit.

Give Illegal Aliens (of any age) an inch, and they'll take a mile.

Let 100K in today, and you let-in another 200K (the mother and father for each) tomorrow.

Not to mention their siblings, and grandparents, and aunts, and uncles, and cousins, and their friends and neighbors and dogs and cats and red-headed step-children in the Harry Potter closet under the stairwell.

More importantly, let 100K in today, and 1,000,000 more will try the very same goddamned frigging thing next year.

We've already got 12,000,000 Illegal Alien invaders present upon United States soil, to deal with.

The time to stop this shit is at the beginning.

"No" means "no".

Well yeah it is our fault... We've invaded most of these countries. With troops. We've told them what kind of governments we will tolerate in their nations...

Oh, Jesus-H-Tap-Dancing-Christ-on-a-crutch...

Cry me a frigging river...

Tough shit... we're not responsible on that level... the answer is 'No'.

 

[Malamute]

WHen these kids get asylum, they'll probably be more productive than you.

You mean "reproductive" and that's the whole problem in their own countries -- babies having babies, irresponsible breeding habits, having children they can never support or properly raise.

Notice it's women without husbands pouring over the border with armloads of infants and toddlers, they're not coming to work but to get in on government handouts. They have no ability to pay for child care even if they wanted to work. This is quickly more generational welfare.

 

[Meister]

Much of the responsibility for this lies with the United States.

We have crushed the agriculture in Mexico and since we buy drugs from the countries these kids are running from, we are a direct cause of the drug violence.

Be that as it may, there is no huge crisis. Nor are our resources are being stretched thin. We're the richest country in the world with a population of 300 million and there are fewer than 100K desperate kids. Do the math.

The responsibility lies with the government of those countries where they are coming from, Lud.
They are corrupt and have been corrupt for a long long time.
That's on them and not us.

Here's How The U.S. Sparked A Refugee Crisis On The Border, In 8 Simple Steps

The 57,000 children from Central America who have streamed across the U.S.-Mexico border this year were driven in large part by the United States itself. While Democrats and Republicans have been pointing fingers at each other, in reality the current wave of migration from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras has its roots in six decades of U.S. policies carried out by members of both parties.

Since the 1950s, the U.S. has sown violence and instability in Central America. Decades of Cold War gamesmanship, together with the relentless global war on drugs, have left a legacy of chaos and brutality in these countries. In many parts of the region, civil society has given way to lawlessness. It's these conditions the children are escaping.

The story of the U.S.-led destabilization of Central America began in 1954, with the overthrow of the elected Guatemalan government of President Jacobo Arbenz. A populist leader inspired by President Franklin Roosevelt’s “New Deal,” Arbenz had plans for an ambitious land redistribution program that aimed to help a nation composed largely of landless farmers.

But those plans butted against the interests of the United Fruit Company, a U.S. corporation that owned much of Guatemala’s arable land, along with railroad infrastructure and a port. The CIA helped engineer the overthrow of the Arbenz government, laying the foundation for decades of government instability and, eventually, a civil war that would claim more than 200,000 lives by the 1980s. That war wasn't fully resolved until the 1990s.

“Our involvement in Central America has not been a very positive one over the last 60 years,” Rep. Beto O’Rourke, a Democrat from El Paso, Texas, told The Huffington Post. “You can go back to the coup that overthrew Jacobo Arbenz in 1954, fully backed by the Eisenhower administration and the Dulles brothers, who had an interest in the United Fruit company, whose fight with the government really precipitated the crisis that led to the coup."

It set a pattern. "You look at the decades following that, and the military strongmen, and the juntas, and the mass killings, and it's no wonder Guatemala is in such terrible shape today," O'Rourke said.

Along with the decades-long war against leftists in Guatemala, the U.S. organized and funded El Salvador's protracted war with the FMLN, a left-wing guerrilla movement. The U.S. also funded counterinsurgency efforts in Honduras, which became a staging ground for the Contras. Death squads flourished, more than 75,000 people died and civil society collapsed.

If today's crisis were simply a result of Central American confusion about the president's policy regarding immigrant children, as is widely alleged, one might expect children to be coming in equal numbers from every Central American country. But notably, Nicaragua -- a country that borders Honduras, and one in which the U.S. failed to keep a far-left government from coming to power -- is today relatively stable and not a source of rampant migration. It is led by President Daniel Ortega, whose Sandinista movement took power in 1979 and held off the U.S.-backed Contras until an opposition government was elected in 1990.

"You see the direct effects of these Cold War policies," Greg Grandin, a professor of Latin American history at New York University, told The Huffington Post. "Nicaragua doesn’t really have a gang problem, and researchers have traced this back to the 1980s and U.S. Cold War policy."

With wars come refugees. The young people who streamed into the United States from Central America in the late '70s and '80s had deep experience with violence.

Ed, they had brutal dictators long before we got involved.

Bottom line is that we have a legal process for immigration to follow. The president needs to follow these guidelines we have in place.

And you know as well as I do that if the children are allowed to stay, the families will follow.
You will be screaming that these anchor children need to be reunited with their families, and it's the just and compassionate thing to do.

 

[koshergrl]

oh those kids have jobs waiting for them....as drug smugglers, gang members, prostitutes and traffickers. ARREST THE PIGS THAT ARE BRINGING THEM. I will never fail to be disgusted by the capability of progrssives to facilitate crime and the abuse and murder of children as a viable political tool. disgusting.

 

[Papageorgio]

The responsibility lies with the government of those countries where they are coming from, Lud.
They are corrupt and have been corrupt for a long long time.
That's on them and not us.

Here's How The U.S. Sparked A Refugee Crisis On The Border, In 8 Simple Steps

The 57,000 children from Central America who have streamed across the U.S.-Mexico border this year were driven in large part by the United States itself. While Democrats and Republicans have been pointing fingers at each other, in reality the current wave of migration from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras has its roots in six decades of U.S. policies carried out by members of both parties.

Since the 1950s, the U.S. has sown violence and instability in Central America. Decades of Cold War gamesmanship, together with the relentless global war on drugs, have left a legacy of chaos and brutality in these countries. In many parts of the region, civil society has given way to lawlessness. It's these conditions the children are escaping.

The story of the U.S.-led destabilization of Central America began in 1954, with the overthrow of the elected Guatemalan government of President Jacobo Arbenz. A populist leader inspired by President Franklin Roosevelt’s “New Deal,” Arbenz had plans for an ambitious land redistribution program that aimed to help a nation composed largely of landless farmers.

But those plans butted against the interests of the United Fruit Company, a U.S. corporation that owned much of Guatemala’s arable land, along with railroad infrastructure and a port. The CIA helped engineer the overthrow of the Arbenz government, laying the foundation for decades of government instability and, eventually, a civil war that would claim more than 200,000 lives by the 1980s. That war wasn't fully resolved until the 1990s.

“Our involvement in Central America has not been a very positive one over the last 60 years,” Rep. Beto O’Rourke, a Democrat from El Paso, Texas, told The Huffington Post. “You can go back to the coup that overthrew Jacobo Arbenz in 1954, fully backed by the Eisenhower administration and the Dulles brothers, who had an interest in the United Fruit company, whose fight with the government really precipitated the crisis that led to the coup."

It set a pattern. "You look at the decades following that, and the military strongmen, and the juntas, and the mass killings, and it's no wonder Guatemala is in such terrible shape today," O'Rourke said.

Along with the decades-long war against leftists in Guatemala, the U.S. organized and funded El Salvador's protracted war with the FMLN, a left-wing guerrilla movement. The U.S. also funded counterinsurgency efforts in Honduras, which became a staging ground for the Contras. Death squads flourished, more than 75,000 people died and civil society collapsed.

If today's crisis were simply a result of Central American confusion about the president's policy regarding immigrant children, as is widely alleged, one might expect children to be coming in equal numbers from every Central American country. But notably, Nicaragua -- a country that borders Honduras, and one in which the U.S. failed to keep a far-left government from coming to power -- is today relatively stable and not a source of rampant migration. It is led by President Daniel Ortega, whose Sandinista movement took power in 1979 and held off the U.S.-backed Contras until an opposition government was elected in 1990.

"You see the direct effects of these Cold War policies," Greg Grandin, a professor of Latin American history at New York University, told The Huffington Post. "Nicaragua doesn’t really have a gang problem, and researchers have traced this back to the 1980s and U.S. Cold War policy."

With wars come refugees. The young people who streamed into the United States from Central America in the late '70s and '80s had deep experience with violence.

Ed, they had brutal dictators long before we got involved.

Bottom line is that we have a legal process for immigration to follow. The president needs to follow these guidelines we have in place.

And you know as well as I do that if the children are allowed to stay, the families will follow.
You will be screaming that these anchor children need to be reunited with their families, and it's the just and compassionate thing to do.

Send them home and reunite them with their families, it is the compassionate thing to do.
So much easier to do now, than later.

 

[koshergrl]

Here's How The U.S. Sparked A Refugee Crisis On The Border, In 8 Simple Steps

The 57,000 children from Central America who have streamed across the U.S.-Mexico border this year were driven in large part by the United States itself. While Democrats and Republicans have been pointing fingers at each other, in reality the current wave of migration from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras has its roots in six decades of U.S. policies carried out by members of both parties.

Since the 1950s, the U.S. has sown violence and instability in Central America. Decades of Cold War gamesmanship, together with the relentless global war on drugs, have left a legacy of chaos and brutality in these countries. In many parts of the region, civil society has given way to lawlessness. It's these conditions the children are escaping.

The story of the U.S.-led destabilization of Central America began in 1954, with the overthrow of the elected Guatemalan government of President Jacobo Arbenz. A populist leader inspired by President Franklin Roosevelt’s “New Deal,” Arbenz had plans for an ambitious land redistribution program that aimed to help a nation composed largely of landless farmers.

But those plans butted against the interests of the United Fruit Company, a U.S. corporation that owned much of Guatemala’s arable land, along with railroad infrastructure and a port. The CIA helped engineer the overthrow of the Arbenz government, laying the foundation for decades of government instability and, eventually, a civil war that would claim more than 200,000 lives by the 1980s. That war wasn't fully resolved until the 1990s.

“Our involvement in Central America has not been a very positive one over the last 60 years,” Rep. Beto O’Rourke, a Democrat from El Paso, Texas, told The Huffington Post. “You can go back to the coup that overthrew Jacobo Arbenz in 1954, fully backed by the Eisenhower administration and the Dulles brothers, who had an interest in the United Fruit company, whose fight with the government really precipitated the crisis that led to the coup."

It set a pattern. "You look at the decades following that, and the military strongmen, and the juntas, and the mass killings, and it's no wonder Guatemala is in such terrible shape today," O'Rourke said.

Along with the decades-long war against leftists in Guatemala, the U.S. organized and funded El Salvador's protracted war with the FMLN, a left-wing guerrilla movement. The U.S. also funded counterinsurgency efforts in Honduras, which became a staging ground for the Contras. Death squads flourished, more than 75,000 people died and civil society collapsed.

If today's crisis were simply a result of Central American confusion about the president's policy regarding immigrant children, as is widely alleged, one might expect children to be coming in equal numbers from every Central American country. But notably, Nicaragua -- a country that borders Honduras, and one in which the U.S. failed to keep a far-left government from coming to power -- is today relatively stable and not a source of rampant migration. It is led by President Daniel Ortega, whose Sandinista movement took power in 1979 and held off the U.S.-backed Contras until an opposition government was elected in 1990.

"You see the direct effects of these Cold War policies," Greg Grandin, a professor of Latin American history at New York University, told The Huffington Post. "Nicaragua doesn’t really have a gang problem, and researchers have traced this back to the 1980s and U.S. Cold War policy."

With wars come refugees. The young people who streamed into the United States from Central America in the late '70s and '80s had deep experience with violence.

Ed, they had brutal dictators long before we got involved.

Bottom line is that we have a legal process for immigration to follow. The president needs to follow these guidelines we have in place.

And you know as well as I do that if the children are allowed to stay, the families will follow.
You will be screaming that these anchor children need to be reunited with their families, and it's the just and compassionate thing to do.

Send them home and reunite them with their families, it is the compassionate thing to do.
So much easier to do now, than later.

and imprison the scum who traffic them.

 

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Here's How The U.S. Sparked A Refugee Crisis On The Border, In 8 Simple Steps

The 57,000 children from Central America who have streamed across the U.S.-Mexico border this year were driven in large part by the United States itself. While Democrats and Republicans have been pointing fingers at each other, in reality the current wave of migration from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras has its roots in six decades of U.S. policies carried out by members of both parties.

Since the 1950s, the U.S. has sown violence and instability in Central America. Decades of Cold War gamesmanship, together with the relentless global war on drugs, have left a legacy of chaos and brutality in these countries. In many parts of the region, civil society has given way to lawlessness. It's these conditions the children are escaping.

The story of the U.S.-led destabilization of Central America began in 1954, with the overthrow of the elected Guatemalan government of President Jacobo Arbenz. A populist leader inspired by President Franklin Roosevelt’s “New Deal,” Arbenz had plans for an ambitious land redistribution program that aimed to help a nation composed largely of landless farmers.

But those plans butted against the interests of the United Fruit Company, a U.S. corporation that owned much of Guatemala’s arable land, along with railroad infrastructure and a port. The CIA helped engineer the overthrow of the Arbenz government, laying the foundation for decades of government instability and, eventually, a civil war that would claim more than 200,000 lives by the 1980s. That war wasn't fully resolved until the 1990s.

“Our involvement in Central America has not been a very positive one over the last 60 years,” Rep. Beto O’Rourke, a Democrat from El Paso, Texas, told The Huffington Post. “You can go back to the coup that overthrew Jacobo Arbenz in 1954, fully backed by the Eisenhower administration and the Dulles brothers, who had an interest in the United Fruit company, whose fight with the government really precipitated the crisis that led to the coup."

It set a pattern. "You look at the decades following that, and the military strongmen, and the juntas, and the mass killings, and it's no wonder Guatemala is in such terrible shape today," O'Rourke said.

Along with the decades-long war against leftists in Guatemala, the U.S. organized and funded El Salvador's protracted war with the FMLN, a left-wing guerrilla movement. The U.S. also funded counterinsurgency efforts in Honduras, which became a staging ground for the Contras. Death squads flourished, more than 75,000 people died and civil society collapsed.

If today's crisis were simply a result of Central American confusion about the president's policy regarding immigrant children, as is widely alleged, one might expect children to be coming in equal numbers from every Central American country. But notably, Nicaragua -- a country that borders Honduras, and one in which the U.S. failed to keep a far-left government from coming to power -- is today relatively stable and not a source of rampant migration. It is led by President Daniel Ortega, whose Sandinista movement took power in 1979 and held off the U.S.-backed Contras until an opposition government was elected in 1990.

"You see the direct effects of these Cold War policies," Greg Grandin, a professor of Latin American history at New York University, told The Huffington Post. "Nicaragua doesn’t really have a gang problem, and researchers have traced this back to the 1980s and U.S. Cold War policy."

With wars come refugees. The young people who streamed into the United States from Central America in the late '70s and '80s had deep experience with violence.

Ed, they had brutal dictators long before we got involved.

Bottom line is that we have a legal process for immigration to follow. The president needs to follow these guidelines we have in place.

And you know as well as I do that if the children are allowed to stay, the families will follow.
You will be screaming that these anchor children need to be reunited with their families, and it's the just and compassionate thing to do.

Send them home and reunite them with their families, it is the compassionate thing to do.
So much easier to do now, than later.

Those children did not travel thousands of miles to be sent home. They are trying to escape from gangs and drug cartels who would kill them.

Sending them home is NOT "the compassionate thing to do"

Why don't you right wing turds be honest for once in your lives. You are not thinking about those children, you are only thinking about YOURSELVES. It is the right wing core of FEAR that drives you folks. Always has and always will.

It is a general popular error to suppose the loudest complainers for the public to be the most anxious for its welfare.
Edmund Burke

 

[Againsheila]

The responsibility lies with the government of those countries where they are coming from, Lud.
They are corrupt and have been corrupt for a long long time.
That's on them and not us.

Here's How The U.S. Sparked A Refugee Crisis On The Border, In 8 Simple Steps

The 57,000 children from Central America who have streamed across the U.S.-Mexico border this year were driven in large part by the United States itself. While Democrats and Republicans have been pointing fingers at each other, in reality the current wave of migration from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras has its roots in six decades of U.S. policies carried out by members of both parties.

Since the 1950s, the U.S. has sown violence and instability in Central America. Decades of Cold War gamesmanship, together with the relentless global war on drugs, have left a legacy of chaos and brutality in these countries. In many parts of the region, civil society has given way to lawlessness. It's these conditions the children are escaping.

The story of the U.S.-led destabilization of Central America began in 1954, with the overthrow of the elected Guatemalan government of President Jacobo Arbenz. A populist leader inspired by President Franklin Roosevelt’s “New Deal,” Arbenz had plans for an ambitious land redistribution program that aimed to help a nation composed largely of landless farmers.

But those plans butted against the interests of the United Fruit Company, a U.S. corporation that owned much of Guatemala’s arable land, along with railroad infrastructure and a port. The CIA helped engineer the overthrow of the Arbenz government, laying the foundation for decades of government instability and, eventually, a civil war that would claim more than 200,000 lives by the 1980s. That war wasn't fully resolved until the 1990s.

“Our involvement in Central America has not been a very positive one over the last 60 years,” Rep. Beto O’Rourke, a Democrat from El Paso, Texas, told The Huffington Post. “You can go back to the coup that overthrew Jacobo Arbenz in 1954, fully backed by the Eisenhower administration and the Dulles brothers, who had an interest in the United Fruit company, whose fight with the government really precipitated the crisis that led to the coup."

It set a pattern. "You look at the decades following that, and the military strongmen, and the juntas, and the mass killings, and it's no wonder Guatemala is in such terrible shape today," O'Rourke said.

Along with the decades-long war against leftists in Guatemala, the U.S. organized and funded El Salvador's protracted war with the FMLN, a left-wing guerrilla movement. The U.S. also funded counterinsurgency efforts in Honduras, which became a staging ground for the Contras. Death squads flourished, more than 75,000 people died and civil society collapsed.

If today's crisis were simply a result of Central American confusion about the president's policy regarding immigrant children, as is widely alleged, one might expect children to be coming in equal numbers from every Central American country. But notably, Nicaragua -- a country that borders Honduras, and one in which the U.S. failed to keep a far-left government from coming to power -- is today relatively stable and not a source of rampant migration. It is led by President Daniel Ortega, whose Sandinista movement took power in 1979 and held off the U.S.-backed Contras until an opposition government was elected in 1990.

"You see the direct effects of these Cold War policies," Greg Grandin, a professor of Latin American history at New York University, told The Huffington Post. "Nicaragua doesn’t really have a gang problem, and researchers have traced this back to the 1980s and U.S. Cold War policy."

With wars come refugees. The young people who streamed into the United States from Central America in the late '70s and '80s had deep experience with violence.

Correct.

The cause of the issue is complex and varied, dating back decades, having nothing to do with the current Administration and its immigration policies. To maintain otherwise is partisan idiocy.

Apparently some people still haven't learned from history.