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Steve Schmidt said it so eloquently. There will be no unity with seditionists.

After their terrorist attack on the country, unity is only possible with accountability. That's the only way moving forward. Not only is accountability imperative, it is necessary if we are to hold onto this Democracy. If the Right thinks this country is simply going to sweep this terrorist attack under the rug, think again.
Tell that bald headed fag boi to come and get me.....
Do not say "come get me" while on the internet. You are spineless. If you are such a tough guy face those you egg on in person. If you are not going to a place you can do what you say or someone else can do what you request shut the f**k up. Do not be a spineless chicken hawk spouting off tough guy tal on the internet. Go where you or someone else can do something about it.
When everything with real radicals is in your face, we get people like you. The amount of people needed to clean up the shit we produce while accusing people who do not agree with it of all names possible is sickening. We do it by our own agendas and programs. We promote it. Taxes keep going up through inflation or stagnant wages. Either way, the police state you deny is coming on strong and it will be fun to watch when the resources are adjusted downward as our economy continues its decline.
Our economy declined because of Trumps failures to address covid. The upswing for ten years of the economy was all Obama with his ten year recovery package.
The agents of the new world order made sure of it. You will lament the loss of all liberty.
They made sure the economy would recover, while Trump took credit. He said we had the best economy ever under his administration. Obama was responsible for that economy. But, Obama didn't create the best economy, which Trump took credit. Obama created a great recovery for which Trump took credit. Trump doesn't have a clue about economies.
 

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Steve Schmidt said it so eloquently. There will be no unity with seditionists.

After their terrorist attack on the country, unity is only possible with accountability. That's the only way moving forward. Not only is accountability imperative, it is necessary if we are to hold onto this Democracy. If the Right thinks this country is simply going to sweep this terrorist attack under the rug, think again.
Sounds like you want a civil war.
 

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Good video.... A great truth.

On Jan. 6, as lawmakers were certifying Democrat Joe Biden’s victory, Republican Trump took to a stage near the White House and exhorted a crowd of supporters repeatedly to “fight” - using the word more than 20 times - and “not take it any longer.” Tell us what Levin said again.
So? Where did he say to break into anywhere or break any law? If i saying "fight" is sedition we're going to have to hang an awful lot of football cheerleaders. I also think President Trump was entirely correct.
 

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Spoken as only a true fascist can speak.
The communists were the ones who eliminated "enemies of the people" on ideological grounds.
Communists are they only ones to have purges?
You people do realize that communism, socialism and fascism are all variations of the same mindset. They all require tyranny to survive and all seek to enslave all but the very few.
That’s a broad characterization that isn’t really true. Communism and socialism are ideologies, tyranny is a means to an end. You don’t have to embrace communism or socialism to be a tyrant. And you don’t have to embrace tyranny to be a communist or a socialist.

Fascism is characterized by extreme nationalism and often racism.
Correct.
Communism and socialism are varying degrees of public involvement with production, like the way we have public utilities.
But tyranny is where government is not by public input at all, but instead the dictates of a single person.
Fascism comes from an ancient Roman traditions of the different wealthy elite, like the aristocracy, business, religion, and military, to join together to suppress all others. It comes from using the facia ax handles badge of lector office, in a bundle, to symbolize strength in unity.
So point out one example of freedoms being given under any of these ideologies. Free will must be squashed at all cost otherwise society will overthrow those in power. It still points to a tyrannical government willing to enslave their population.
Here‘s a list of the 10 of most socialist countries
  • China
  • Denmark
  • Finland
  • Netherlands
  • Canada
  • Sweden
  • Norway
  • Ireland
  • New Zealand
  • Belgium
India is also on the list. I only see one repressive government there.

i know you only asked for one example but I thought i would prompt an argument that one is just an exception to the rule.
 

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You have no real intelligent understanding of hypocrisy. The BLM protesters had an agenda for being treated the same. And they were met with Trump's skinhead militia disguised as law enforcement who used BLM to camouflage their own evil with violence, burning, and looting. Were BLM protesters involved in such activity? Yes! But when Trump's goons got on the scene, they made it ten times worse. Which was their mission.
You're wrong.
I happen to agree with BLM protestors and disagree with the Trump supporters who occupied congress, but the BLM protestors were far more violent, and both were equally protected political expression.
 

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"If you need thousands of troops for your inauguration, then you were likely not elected by the people."
Dump lost by about 8 million votes. Biden won the popular and the electoral vote. Anyone with a functioning brain would know Biden was elected by the people.

Mighty convenient timing for a sudden change of heart from people who for 4 fucking years whined about Russia's election interference. Whatever happened to that big-talk about burning the whole damn system to the ground?
When have you ever heard me say anything about burning anything to the ground? Dump helped the Russians. They couldnt pin him down but anyone with a brain knows he colluded with them.
Suddenly it's tantamount to treason to question election integrity or stage protests. Even though the vast majority of the tens of thousands of DC protesters remained "mostly peaceful", that old excuse just ain't gonna cut it anymore. Like I said, this sudden shift in tone is mighty convenient.
You can question all you want to. You can decide not to believe the republican voting officials that said the election was fair. You can disbelieve all the republican appointed judges that laughed Dumps suits out the court due to lack of evidence. You can do all that but if you fuck up and try to overturn the results you will be dealt with harshly.

If only the accusation of "sedition" was limited specifically to the people who actually broke into the capitol building and committed actual crimes but in reality there's a broad brush smear campaign against a huge swathe of Americans who did nothing wrong.
If a person supports the breaking into the capital, they are just as morally reprehensible and anti-American as those that did. They just were not able to go, as lacked transportation, time off their day job, no baby sitter, etc.. Then again, the may just lack the courage of their convictions, so it is unlikely they will be convicted.
Then by your standards I am just as morally reprehensible and anti-American (at least anti your Big Brother version of America) as those that protested and dam proud of it. I don't recall any outrage from you when antifa and blm staged much more violent protests on public property. Have you forgotten that public property belongs to the people which is why it is known a "public" property. They bought it, they paid for it and I don't think "trespassing" on it is any very serious crime. Where was your "anti-America" bullshit when real thugs decided to make several city blocks of an American city their private domain? They invaded a part of my Country and had they tried to stop me from my legal use of public property a war would have started right then. It was far more morally reprehensible and anti-American for the involved officials to just cede what they were sworn and legally required to protect. Somehow I don't find Americans who are innocent of any crime not being convicted to be a bad thing.
There you go. Just not willing to live by the laws the rest of us support, eh? I do not live in the crap cities where the mayors and governor put up with the disgraceful destructive and in some cases deadly riots. I promise not to spend my tourism dollars in any of those lawless places and certainly would not live in one. As an American citizen, I claim the right to not have my Capital Building attacked by anti constitution, anti-law and order right wing extremists. Portland is not my city. Washington DC Capital hill area belongs to all loyal American. Traitorous scum need not visit. There are rules and laws reguarding every bit of public land, and monuments in this country and that includes the Capital Building. You do not have the right to do as you please in these places as if you are entitled breaking, attack, and destroy to get your way after you lose an election. Plain as that. If you can't handle being a decent citizen, don't expect anybody to treat you as one or say nice calm supportive things to you or about you. You are not a little child and we do not favor babying you until you calm down. We're talking about Washington DC, not the state of Washington. Suck it up and act better.
"As an American citizen, I claim the right to not have my Capital Building attacked by anti constitution, anti-law and order right wing extremists."
Great. Then you should be happy that it wasn't. You should stop being a pouty lil bitch and admit that the people who went into the capitol own it just as much as you do. Own it just as much as the rent-a-cop who used a flimsy pathetic excuse to shoot down an innocent unarmed American citizen for the alleged crime of trespass. Have you condemned his moral repugnance? I don't think so. Have you condemned any other of the many other demonstrations and/or violent riots that have taken place there? I doubt it. But you do presume to condemn everybody everywhere who presumes to have a POV different than your own.
Nobody cares what city or State or district you live in. We are talking about America. Any attack on any part of it is as much an attack on America and Americans as an attack on any other part. Even Portland. You're just a child having a screaming shit-fit because someone dared to have an opinion you didn't authorize. Grow up.
You should watch the news. Characterizing a violent mob as anything other than an attack, shown live and verified afterwards will do no good. Suck it up, buttercup.
Nah.
I watched it, and it looked more like a grade school, playground, shoving match.
No one was trying to harm anyone from the demonstrator side.
The police however, WERE illegally trying to harm, to the point they were shooting indiscriminately at innocent people.
Clearly only the police violated felony laws and need to be arrested.
Everyone in that building who was not invited, should have been shot dead. Period! They attacked this country.
So they should have gunned down all the BLM rioters....
Why would they do that? Most of those people were protesting legally on public property. The Trump terrorists were not.
Were they? Maybe because lots of them were NOT protesting legally on public poperty but were rioting, looting, and committing assorted acts of destruction and mayhem and terrorism and insurrection on private and public property alike. The vast majority of the DC protestors did protest legally on public property (which includes the Capitol no matter how many commies on this site think only they should have the right to decide who should be in the building or not). And BTW there is tons of TV footage of them doing it. The antifa/blm terrorists who captured and held part of Portland purely deserve to be hung by the neck until dead dead dead and rotted.
Hundreds didn't protest legally, and five people lost their lives. You don't give a shit about that because it doesn't fit your narrative.
And the same is true and more so of several dozen "protests" just in the last couple years. You're just determined to be a hypocrite about the whole thing.
You have no real intelligent understanding of hypocrisy. The BLM protesters had an agenda for being treated the same. And they were met with Trump's skinhead militia disguised as law enforcement who used BLM to camouflage their own evil with violence, burning, and looting. Were BLM protesters involved in such activity? Yes! But when Trump's goons got on the scene, they made it ten times worse. Which was their mission.
The whole blacks are mistreated is a myth.
Stop being criminals and your problems will end.
Whether you choose to do so or not doesn't bother me either way.
You wanna get shot for resisting and pulling weapons? Go right ahead....perforated boi.
 

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A depression will come before world war.

That's what liberals historically have used to trigger war.

First depression then war to "fix" the broken economy.
Oh, and to make tax hikes taste delicious to their sheep.
 

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Another admission of guilt. If everything was fair and fine don't censor answer the claims.
 

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Spoken as only a true fascist can speak.
The communists were the ones who eliminated "enemies of the people" on ideological grounds.
Communists are they only ones to have purges?
You people do realize that communism, socialism and fascism are all variations of the same mindset. They all require tyranny to survive and all seek to enslave all but the very few.
That’s a broad characterization that isn’t really true. Communism and socialism are ideologies, tyranny is a means to an end. You don’t have to embrace communism or socialism to be a tyrant. And you don’t have to embrace tyranny to be a communist or a socialist.

Fascism is characterized by extreme nationalism and often racism.
Correct.
Communism and socialism are varying degrees of public involvement with production, like the way we have public utilities.
But tyranny is where government is not by public input at all, but instead the dictates of a single person.
Fascism comes from an ancient Roman traditions of the different wealthy elite, like the aristocracy, business, religion, and military, to join together to suppress all others. It comes from using the facia ax handles badge of lector office, in a bundle, to symbolize strength in unity.
So point out one example of freedoms being given under any of these ideologies. Free will must be squashed at all cost otherwise society will overthrow those in power. It still points to a tyrannical government willing to enslave their population.
Socialism and communism are only about economics, not how you make political decisions.
You can have communism or socialism under a political democracy, aristocracy, theocracy, or tyranny.
Makes no difference at all since economics and politics are orthogonal, and do not effect each other.

However, fascism is political.
It is always only a oligarcy where the wealthy elite form a coaltion to totally take over politics.
And fascists have always been capitalists so far.
Never once has fascism been anything but a coalition of capitalists.
 

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A civil war seems the only thing that might revive TV ratings now that streaming has taken the lead. Have you cut the cord yet? If you haven't, you MAY be a liberal!
 

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There will be no unity with seditionists.
Don't exclude yourself from that. There will be no unity with people like you either. You're simply the opposite end of the extreme.
Are you so cynical as to think all our political is reduced to extremes? Can you accept that most Americans prefer a centrist approach, not seditious "proud Boys" racism or anti--fan radical anarchy?

Biden inclusiveness not Trump nationalism.

Seditionists don't care about democracy. Most Americans do.

With friends like seditionists, why are you afraid of AOC? Which one poses the greater threat to democracy?
If you think dems are centrist you're an idiot.
If you think 75,000,000 votes were cast in support of one narrow political ideology, or that Democrats don' contain a variety of political thought and faction, you are either not paying attention or have succumbed to prropagandistic brainwashing.

Such ossified thinking cannot offer solutions and shouldn't weigh in on the momentous problems we face today. In fact, such thiinking lays squarely at the center of our problems.


Do I you know what makes this huge, diverse nation so great? Our mastery at the art of political compromise. One party rule has never, and will.never.serve a form of government of, by and for free people.
Fuck compromising with commies!!!
And your spelling is atrocious.
And your lies are disgusting. What commies? Do you even know what a communist is?
Absolutely....biden is the epitome of a commie.
After all,the CCP owns him.
Hate to break it to you but over 80 million people didn't believe you. And now, through misdeeds and isurrection attempt, it appears that the GOP, as it stands now, is in the process of being defunded. After all the defunding that you clowns attempted (and in some cases were successful) I think karma is here to bite your in the ass.
I dont think things are going to turn out like you think.
Probably a lot closer that what the anarchist wannabes are thinking. Might be harder to even maintain propaganda levels necessary to keep the right wing sheep indoctrinated with lies, as conspiracy and false stories even about election fraud have dropped 73% since the twitter and facebook bans went into effect by one report.

Online misinformation about the US election fell 73% after Trump's social media ban
Why would you believe the MSM about anything?
Saw it live, in color. Seen the vids of the protestors smiling for their own cameras, you know, reality. Reality isn't for interpretation. It is not handed down or decided from above. Not about how you feel about it inside, or what others describe it to be. Reality is real, in and of itself. Try Lenard Piekhoff lecturing live at the Fordham on Objectivist Philosophy if you can find a copy.
Correct that reality is not open for interpretation.
But the obvious reality is the protestors WERE NON-VIOLENT.
They were not shooting people.
The people who were indiscriminately shooting and killing people, WERE the POLICE.
With the demonstrators, I only saw some petty misdemeanors like vandalism.
From the police I saw deliberate murder of people not involved in any criminal acts at all.
That is the objective reality, and there is no way to alter that fact.
Don't be silly. Barricades were breached. Doors were forced open, sometimes with security being forced back by overwhelming numbers and beating of some of the security in the process, including on Capital Police officer that later died. Glass was broken out and insurrectionists (urged to go to the Capital by trump) attempted to climb past, as where the woman was shot in the attempt. Do not attempt to minimized and describe reality as it was live cast. Reality is Real.
Reality is real, motivation has yet to be shown. So far it looks like a smattering of both sides. This is now a case for the authorities and the courts. Obviously the court of popular opinion is deadlock and a new jury is required.
Where in the hell do you get that from? Either they did invade the Capital Building, causing destruction and mayhem and directly or indirectly the deaths of 5 people or they didn't. The problem is, I watched it live and the clips later released agreed with the live broadcast except it was even worse. There is no deadlock. It's going to the Judicial and not the local courts. They did it. They just haven't been convicted quite yet. There were no "Two Sides". It was one sided. Sorry, your Rump Logic doesn't work on this one. There were NO good people on their side.
 

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Steve Schmidt said it so eloquently. There will be no unity with seditionists.

After their terrorist attack on the country, unity is only possible with accountability. That's the only way moving forward. Not only is accountability imperative, it is necessary if we are to hold onto this Democracy. If the Right thinks this country is simply going to sweep this terrorist attack under the rug, think again.
There will be no unity until the current democrat communists are out of our government.
 

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Spoken as only a true fascist can speak.
The communists were the ones who eliminated "enemies of the people" on ideological grounds.
Communists are they only ones to have purges?
You people do realize that communism, socialism and fascism are all variations of the same mindset. They all require tyranny to survive and all seek to enslave all but the very few.
That’s a broad characterization that isn’t really true. Communism and socialism are ideologies, tyranny is a means to an end. You don’t have to embrace communism or socialism to be a tyrant. And you don’t have to embrace tyranny to be a communist or a socialist.

Fascism is characterized by extreme nationalism and often racism.
Correct.
Communism and socialism are varying degrees of public involvement with production, like the way we have public utilities.
But tyranny is where government is not by public input at all, but instead the dictates of a single person.
Fascism comes from an ancient Roman traditions of the different wealthy elite, like the aristocracy, business, religion, and military, to join together to suppress all others. It comes from using the facia ax handles badge of lector office, in a bundle, to symbolize strength in unity.
So point out one example of freedoms being given under any of these ideologies. Free will must be squashed at all cost otherwise society will overthrow those in power. It still points to a tyrannical government willing to enslave their population.
Here‘s a list of the 10 of most socialist countries
  • China
  • Denmark
  • Finland
  • Netherlands
  • Canada
  • Sweden
  • Norway
  • Ireland
  • New Zealand
  • Belgium
India is also on the list. I only see one repressive government there.

i know you only asked for one example but I thought i would prompt an argument that one is just an exception to the rule.
They have some aspects of socialism but are not socialist countries. Socialism is more of an afterthought than an ideology. By your definition you need to add the USA because we have many socialist institutions written into our law.
 

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There will be no unity with seditionists.
Don't exclude yourself from that. There will be no unity with people like you either. You're simply the opposite end of the extreme.
Are you so cynical as to think all our political is reduced to extremes? Can you accept that most Americans prefer a centrist approach, not seditious "proud Boys" racism or anti--fan radical anarchy?

Biden inclusiveness not Trump nationalism.

Seditionists don't care about democracy. Most Americans do.

With friends like seditionists, why are you afraid of AOC? Which one poses the greater threat to democracy?
If you think dems are centrist you're an idiot.
If you think 75,000,000 votes were cast in support of one narrow political ideology, or that Democrats don' contain a variety of political thought and faction, you are either not paying attention or have succumbed to prropagandistic brainwashing.

Such ossified thinking cannot offer solutions and shouldn't weigh in on the momentous problems we face today. In fact, such thiinking lays squarely at the center of our problems.


Do I you know what makes this huge, diverse nation so great? Our mastery at the art of political compromise. One party rule has never, and will.never.serve a form of government of, by and for free people.
Fuck compromising with commies!!!
And your spelling is atrocious.
And your lies are disgusting. What commies? Do you even know what a communist is?
Absolutely....biden is the epitome of a commie.
After all,the CCP owns him.
Hate to break it to you but over 80 million people didn't believe you. And now, through misdeeds and isurrection attempt, it appears that the GOP, as it stands now, is in the process of being defunded. After all the defunding that you clowns attempted (and in some cases were successful) I think karma is here to bite your in the ass.
I dont think things are going to turn out like you think.
Probably a lot closer that what the anarchist wannabes are thinking. Might be harder to even maintain propaganda levels necessary to keep the right wing sheep indoctrinated with lies, as conspiracy and false stories even about election fraud have dropped 73% since the twitter and facebook bans went into effect by one report.

Online misinformation about the US election fell 73% after Trump's social media ban
Why would you believe the MSM about anything?
Saw it live, in color. Seen the vids of the protestors smiling for their own cameras, you know, reality. Reality isn't for interpretation. It is not handed down or decided from above. Not about how you feel about it inside, or what others describe it to be. Reality is real, in and of itself. Try Lenard Piekhoff lecturing live at the Fordham on Objectivist Philosophy if you can find a copy.
Correct that reality is not open for interpretation.
But the obvious reality is the protestors WERE NON-VIOLENT.
They were not shooting people.
The people who were indiscriminately shooting and killing people, WERE the POLICE.
With the demonstrators, I only saw some petty misdemeanors like vandalism.
From the police I saw deliberate murder of people not involved in any criminal acts at all.
That is the objective reality, and there is no way to alter that fact.
Don't be silly. Barricades were breached. Doors were forced open, sometimes with security being forced back by overwhelming numbers and beating of some of the security in the process, including on Capital Police officer that later died. Glass was broken out and insurrectionists (urged to go to the Capital by trump) attempted to climb past, as where the woman was shot in the attempt. Do not attempt to minimized and describe reality as it was live cast. Reality is Real.
Reality is real, motivation has yet to be shown. So far it looks like a smattering of both sides. This is now a case for the authorities and the courts. Obviously the court of popular opinion is deadlock and a new jury is required.
Where in the hell do you get that from? Either they did invade the Capital Building, causing destruction and mayhem and directly or indirectly the deaths of 5 people or they didn't. The problem is, I watched it live and the clips later released agreed with the live broadcast except it was even worse. There is no deadlock. It's going to the Judicial and not the local courts. They did it. They just haven't been convicted quite yet. There were no "Two Sides". It was one sided. Sorry, your Rump Logic doesn't work on this one. There were NO good people on their side.
I did not say any of them were good I just said we do not have a clear picture of why. From the news there were representatives of both extremes in the mob that went inside the capital. But there are also staged pictures inside the capital which doesn’t fit the narrative either. We the people just don’t have all the facts is all I am saying and we can bitch and moan all we like but in the end we do not have enough information to make an informed decision about what really went on during those hours.
 

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Spoken as only a true fascist can speak.
The communists were the ones who eliminated "enemies of the people" on ideological grounds.
Communists are they only ones to have purges?
You people do realize that communism, socialism and fascism are all variations of the same mindset. They all require tyranny to survive and all seek to enslave all but the very few.
That’s a broad characterization that isn’t really true. Communism and socialism are ideologies, tyranny is a means to an end. You don’t have to embrace communism or socialism to be a tyrant. And you don’t have to embrace tyranny to be a communist or a socialist.

Fascism is characterized by extreme nationalism and often racism.
Correct.
Communism and socialism are varying degrees of public involvement with production, like the way we have public utilities.
But tyranny is where government is not by public input at all, but instead the dictates of a single person.
Fascism comes from an ancient Roman traditions of the different wealthy elite, like the aristocracy, business, religion, and military, to join together to suppress all others. It comes from using the facia ax handles badge of lector office, in a bundle, to symbolize strength in unity.
So point out one example of freedoms being given under any of these ideologies. Free will must be squashed at all cost otherwise society will overthrow those in power. It still points to a tyrannical government willing to enslave their population.
Socialism and communism are only about economics, not how you make political decisions.
You can have communism or socialism under a political democracy, aristocracy, theocracy, or tyranny.
Makes no difference at all since economics and politics are orthogonal, and do not effect each other.

However, fascism is political.
It is always only a oligarcy where the wealthy elite form a coaltion to totally take over politics.
And fascists have always been capitalists so far.
Never once has fascism been anything but a coalition of capitalists.
I simply disagree I don’t see any difference between how hitler, Stalin or Mao enacted their utopias. In the end it is the common citizens that are harmed.
 

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Tell that bald headed fag boi to come and get me.....
I doubt that anyone cares about coming to get you. I doubt anyone cares you even exist.
And that is why you vote for the wrong people...you think no one cares about the people and actually wants the best for individual Americans....well you just voted out the best shot we had....is your lack of faith in people bred into you or did the public school system and CNN do this to you?....
 

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Spoken as only a true fascist can speak.
The communists were the ones who eliminated "enemies of the people" on ideological grounds.
Communists are they only ones to have purges?
You people do realize that communism, socialism and fascism are all variations of the same mindset. They all require tyranny to survive and all seek to enslave all but the very few.
That’s a broad characterization that isn’t really true. Communism and socialism are ideologies, tyranny is a means to an end. You don’t have to embrace communism or socialism to be a tyrant. And you don’t have to embrace tyranny to be a communist or a socialist.

Fascism is characterized by extreme nationalism and often racism.
Correct.
Communism and socialism are varying degrees of public involvement with production, like the way we have public utilities.
But tyranny is where government is not by public input at all, but instead the dictates of a single person.
Fascism comes from an ancient Roman traditions of the different wealthy elite, like the aristocracy, business, religion, and military, to join together to suppress all others. It comes from using the facia ax handles badge of lector office, in a bundle, to symbolize strength in unity.
You just described Trump.
Yes, as a leftist, Trump does cause me concern.
He could easily turn into a fascist.
Untrue terms. Doesn't matter who controls production. What matters is who controls government. Government does indeed control production to the extent it thinks possible.
All forms of government vary in the number of people who control the government and to what extent the government controls the People. And that is the primary difference between systems of government. A king, a dictator, a Pope, a commissar, a committee, a President all can be benevolent and good for the People or true asshoes and bad for the people they theoretically serve. About the only real difference is how quickly they tend to become tyrannical and need to be replaced.
 

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They have some aspects of socialism but are not socialist countries. Socialism is more of an afterthought than an ideology. By your definition you need to add the USA because we have many socialist institutions written into our law.
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Socialism is an afterthought? Where the hell did you get that garbage? Just making up stuff like that is the sign of someone just spinning things.
 

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Spoken as only a true fascist can speak.
The communists were the ones who eliminated "enemies of the people" on ideological grounds.
Communists are they only ones to have purges?
You people do realize that communism, socialism and fascism are all variations of the same mindset. They all require tyranny to survive and all seek to enslave all but the very few.
That’s a broad characterization that isn’t really true. Communism and socialism are ideologies, tyranny is a means to an end. You don’t have to embrace communism or socialism to be a tyrant. And you don’t have to embrace tyranny to be a communist or a socialist.

Fascism is characterized by extreme nationalism and often racism.
Correct.
Communism and socialism are varying degrees of public involvement with production, like the way we have public utilities.
But tyranny is where government is not by public input at all, but instead the dictates of a single person.
Fascism comes from an ancient Roman traditions of the different wealthy elite, like the aristocracy, business, religion, and military, to join together to suppress all others. It comes from using the facia ax handles badge of lector office, in a bundle, to symbolize strength in unity.
You just described Trump.
Yes, as a leftist, Trump does cause me concern.
He could easily turn into a fascist.
Untrue terms. Doesn't matter who controls production. What matters is who controls government. Government does indeed control production to the extent it thinks possible.
All forms of government vary in the number of people who control the government and to what extent the government controls the People. And that is the primary difference between systems of government. A king, a dictator, a Pope, a commissar, a committee, a President all can be benevolent and good for the People or true asshoes and bad for the people they theoretically serve. About the only real difference is how quickly they tend to become tyrannical and need to be replaced.
I think Will Rogers expressed that sentiment well, "Diapers and politicians should be changed regularly--and for the same reasons."
 

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