Make no mistake about it - the democrat party absolutely hates America.

Loving their country is verboten for democrats. Being submissive to the struggle is priority, like all good communists.
 
The maga's will love it but they certainly didn't when a dem President sent troops to die.
And they'll flip back to that after a Democrat is back in office. And the Democrats will be cheering for war.

Phony phuckers all around. That's the two-party system!
 
It sounds like you're denying that you're a neocon, and I'm wondering why. Are you in favor of the war on Iraq? Do you want government taking an active role as "world police"? Does free trade matter? Or do you prefer government manipulating markets with tariffs, tax games and direct threats from the President?
1. We aren't engaged in Iraq...

2. Depends on what exactly you mean by "Neocon"?

3. Active role as the "World police" - Like it or not, we ARE the world police when it comes to terrorist regimes that murder their own people, and want a nuke to attack ourselves, and Israel (an ally)....

4. I'd rather tariffs were used to our advantage rather than letting the world use and abuse us....
 
Nope. But you're presenting it as though it's a revelation. Neocons grew out of Dems who wanted more authoritarian government and more foreign military involvement. Even wikipedia gets it right.

MIC?

Well, that didn't last, did it? He's all in now.

It sounds like you're denying that you're a neocon, and I'm wondering why. Are you in favor of the war on Iraq? Do you want government taking an active role as "world police"? Does free trade matter? Or do you prefer government manipulating markets with tariffs, tax games and direct threats from the President?
You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. I am one of the anti-war old school democrats that the neocons were disgusted with. I am anti-war until it can't be avoided. I don't want a full blown war with Iran, nor did I think we should have gone into Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya or Syria. We definitely shouldn't be helping Ukraine. But I don't think you are asking genuinely, so go **** off.
 
The goals as I understand them is two fold....Prevent Iran from obtaining a nuke, and the ability to threaten their region with terrorism, and opening a chance that the people can rise up and take their country back from the theocracy....

So now, you tell me. What is your goal?
It's too late for my goals the war has already started and the genie's not going back in the bottle. Removing Trump and ending this mess are the next possible goals. Unfortunately like with his last Presidency, we'll have to endure economic disaster and American deaths until his term ends before we can start patching things up.
 
It probably is going to happen whether you or I like it or not. The maga's will love it but they certainly didn't when a dem President sent troops to die.
Nobody should be sending our soldiers to die on the other side of the world for nothing. Democrat or republican. Let the rest of the world protect its oil routes if it wants to since we're supposedly energy independent.
 
It's too late for my goals the war has already started and the genie's not going back in the bottle. Removing Trump and ending this mess are the next possible goals. Unfortunately like with his last Presidency, we'll have to endure economic disaster and American deaths until his term ends before we can start patching things up.
Yup. And, again like last time, the best we can hope for as an alternative is a partisan Democrat. Wash, rinse, repeat.
 
You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. I am one of the anti-war old school democrats that the neocons were disgusted with. I am anti-war until it can't be avoided.
LOL - yeah, every one is.
 
Nobody should be sending our soldiers to die on the other side of the world for nothing. Democrat or republican. Let the rest of the world protect its oil routes if it wants to since we're supposedly energy independent.
Yep, I agree and was that not one of things trump and the maga trolls preached? We are not the world protector's? Until today! We have never won in the ME and it's looking with Pentagon Pete at the helm we won't win this one either.
 
Yep, I agree and was that not one of things trump and the maga trolls preached? We are not the world protector's? Until today! We have never won in the ME and it's looking with Pentagon Pete at the helm we won't win this one either.
MAGA preaches whatever the pedophile wants. If he wants to bomb some more countries or put boots on the ground, they'll glaze him like they always do.
 
It's too late for my goals the war has already started and the genie's not going back in the bottle.
And what happens with your silly war narrative if the US completes their goals with the forces there now, and comes home…?
Removing Trump and ending this mess are the next possible goals.
What mess? Trump is re ordering our place on the world stage for the better. Obviously you don’t care for that.
Unfortunately like with his last Presidency, we'll have to endure economic disaster and American deaths until his term ends before we can start patching things up.
lol…the last democrat gave us 9% inflation, and nonsense. You want that back? Why?
 
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No, I disagree.

You’re kidding right?
The way I see it, is the tough, cheap saber rattling talk of destroying Israel and the Great Satan, is just that. They know damn well that Israel would blow up their nuclear missile over Iran, then hit them with nuclear Armageddon. They, like the leaders of many countries, just like to sound tough.
 
And what happens with your silly war narrative if the US completes their goals with the forces there now, and comes home…?
Sure just like when conservatives said that about Dubya's wars :fu:
What mess? Trump is re ordering our place on the world stage for the better. Obviously you don’t care for that.
Really because it seems like our place in the world is still regime changing and protecting oil routes
lol…the last democrat gave us 9% inflation, and nonsense. You want that back? Why?
Inflation never left are you stupid?
 
The way I see it, is the tough, cheap saber rattling talk of destroying Israel and the Great Satan, is just that. They know damn well that Israel would blow up their nuclear missile over Iran, then hit them with nuclear Armageddon. They, like the leaders of many countries, just like to sound tough.
So, that’s a yes for Iran to get a nuke?
 
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