Zone1 There Is No Such Thing as Abortion "Medication"

[protectionist]

Leftists are creative. When they want to push a certain agenda, they create words and phrases to give it a legitimate look. One of these is the phrase "Abortion Medication". Actually, what leftists call abortion medication is actually abortion WEAPONS used to kill people trying to be born. Let's get this straight. If you are trying to kill your unborn baby, you are a murderer, and the drug used to do that killing is a murder weapon, not a medication.

In addition, if you do anything to kill your fetus, you are guilty of feticide. How's that for an interesting word, abortion supporters ? Women should be aware of the possibiity of being held criminally accountable for feticde.

Some are already being prosecuted for their own abortions, in mostly unpublicized cases. In 2015, Indiana prosecuted Purvi Patel under the state’s feticide law, after she took commonly used abortion drugs. Prosecutors claimed there was a baby born alive, that did not survive. Her text messages about getting abortion pills were the main evidence against her. Patel was sentenced to 20 years in prison, but her conviction was overturned and the 33-year-old was released after serving 18 months behind bars.

A Tennessee woman, Anna Yocca, who tried to use a coat hanger to end her pregnancy was arrested for attempted murder. Her effort was unsuccessful — she was rushed to the hospital where an emergency C-section was performed. Her baby was born prematurely and then adopted by a family. Still, Yoca spent one year and one month in prison, before pleading to a lesser charge and being released.

in 2015, a Georgia woman tried to end her pregnancy with the widely used medication misoprostol. Kenlissia Jones gave birth to the fetus while rushing to the hospital, but it did not survive. She was arrested for murder, and held for three days in jail. The felony charges were later dismissed, but Jones was prosecuted for possession of a dangerous drug. Just because you can buy something over the internet, doesn't mean that it necessarily is legal.

These are cases that have been uncommon up to now. Now that abortion is actually a crime in many states, it’s likely that jailing people for their pregnancy outcomes could go from an unusual to a commonplace event.

At least 38 states have fetal homicide laws in place. Twenty-nine of those say a person can be charged with homicide at any stage of pregnancy. The Supreme Court decision will only result in police and prosecutors receiving more laws to rely on to send patients to jail. Women need to take a good hard look at all this and realize the days of nonchalant sex, and relying on abortions are over. They need to exercise caution, use protection, or don't have sex.

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[1srelluc]

Great point!

Next they will be calling it mother's little helper.

 

[flan327]

Please explain to US why forcing a woman to carry an UNWANTED FETUS for NINE MONTHS is civilized

 

[MarathonMike]

If we lived in an ideal world, every conception would be celebrated and nurtured to delivery. We don't live in that world and there will continue to be unwanted pregnancies because boys and girls and men and women are going to have unprotected sex. We have to face that reality and in my opinion come to some common ground on what to do going forward.

IMO we need much more aggressive promotion of birth control and use of "abortion drugs" for fetal age less than 10 weeks. If you can't be responsible enough to deal with unwanted pregnancy, then have the baby and put it up for adoption. That is my solution, what is yours?

 

[protectionist]

Please explain to US why forcing a woman to carry an UNWANTED FETUS for NINE MONTHS is civilized

Because not doing that is MURDER. Plain enough ?

 

[protectionist]

If we lived in an ideal world, every conception would be celebrated and nurtured to delivery. We don't live in that world and there will continue to be unwanted pregnancies because boys and girls and men and women are going to have unprotected sex. We have to face that reality and in my opinion come to some common ground on what to do going forward.

IMO we need much more aggressive promotion of birth control and use of "abortion drugs" for fetal age less than 10 weeks. If you can't be responsible enough to deal with unwanted pregnancy, then have the baby and put it up for adoption. That is my solution, what is yours?

You contradicted yourself.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Please explain to US why forcing a woman to carry an UNWANTED FETUS for NINE MONTHS is civilized

As soon as you explain to us why women insist on making unwanted babies.

Edit: Still waiting flan327

 

[flan327]

If we lived in an ideal world, every conception would be celebrated and nurtured to delivery. We don't live in that world and there will continue to be unwanted pregnancies because boys and girls and men and women are going to have unprotected sex. We have to face that reality and in my opinion come to some common ground on what to do going forward.

IMO we need much more aggressive promotion of birth control and use of "abortion drugs" for fetal age less than 10 weeks. If you can't be responsible enough to deal with unwanted pregnancy, then have the baby and put it up for adoption. That is my solution, what is yours?

Safe legal abortions in the first trimester

 

[protectionist]

Safe legal abortions in the first trimester

No abortion is "safe" for the person trying to be born. Liberals only talk about the pregnant women. Never the fetuses.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Please explain to US why forcing a woman to carry an UNWANTED FETUS for NINE MONTHS is civilized

The alternative is to kill an innocent child in cold blood.

In what way can that be called “civilized”?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Safe legal abortions in the first trimester

There is no such thing as a safe abortion. Every successful abortion results in the death of an innocent human being. By no rational definition can that be considered safe.

 

[MarathonMike]

Safe legal abortions in the first trimester

That means there will be fetuses with beating hearts and developed nervous systems killed by a doctor. IMO we have to do better than that for the unborn, and we can.

 

[meaner gene]

IMO we need much more aggressive promotion of birth control and use of "abortion drugs" for fetal age less than 10 weeks. If you can't be responsible enough to deal with unwanted pregnancy, then have the baby and put it up for adoption. That is my solution, what is yours?

You realize that pregnancy is actually a more dangerous medical procedure than abortion. The death rate of pregnant women, is 30 times that of women that ended their pregnancies through abortion.

Legal induced abortion remains an extremely safe procedure, with a mortality rate of 0.7 per 100,000 procedures.

The maternal mortality rate for 2020 was 23.8 deaths per 100,000

You leave out that when it comes to the life of the mother, abortions save lives

 

[MarathonMike]

You realize that pregnancy is actually a more dangerous medical procedure than abortion. The death rate of pregnant women, is 30 times that of women that ended their pregnancies through abortion.

Legal induced abortion remains an extremely safe procedure, with a mortality rate of 0.7 per 100,000 procedures.

The maternal mortality rate for 2020 was 23.8 deaths per 100,000

You leave out that when it comes to the life of the mother, abortions save lives

What is your plan? Allow full term abortions across the board? 2nd trimester? 1st?

 

[meaner gene]

Complete BS.

In the first place, you described pregnancy, a natural condition, as a "medical procedure".

At least in 1st world countries with modern medical systems, pregnancy is under more medical observation and control than the leading causes of death.

Prenatal appointments are generally scheduled as follows: Once per month for weeks 4 to 28. Twice per month for weeks 28 to 36. Weekly for week 36 to delivery.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

At least in 1st world countries with modern medical systems, pregnancy is under more medical observation and control than the leading causes of death.

Prenatal appointments are generally scheduled as follows: Once per month for weeks 4 to 28. Twice per month for weeks 28 to 36. Weekly for week 36 to delivery.

Pregnancy is not a "medical procedure", no matter how you try to sidestep and soft-shoe-shuffle it.

Those women I spoke of had their babies without a single "prenatal appointment" with a "doctor". Pregnancy and childbirth is an overwhelmingly safe and fulfilling event in a woman's life, no matter how hard the medical industrial complex tries to convince women that pregnancy is a dangerous disease.

Or maybe that just applies to intelligent women.

 

[meaner gene]

I personally have known four women who delivered their own perfectly healthy babies at home, only half of whom used the assistance of a midwife.

For thousands and thousand of years, women have had babies the same way other animals have babies.

And for thousands of years, before modern medical observation and intervention, the death rate from pregnancy was hugely higher.

in the 19th century about 500 to 1,000 mothers died for every 100,000 births. The infant mortality rate was 21,600 per 100,000 births

We've come a long way baby.

 

[meaner gene]

Pregnancy is not a "medical procedure", no matter how you try to sidestep and soft-shoe-shuffle it.

Those women I spoke of had their babies without a single "prenatal appointment" with a "doctor".

Actually nurse practitioners do most of the prenatal care

Nurse practitioners (N.P.s) are specially trained in women's health. They are licensed to provide prenatal care and well-woman care,

I doubt those women didn't receive any medical care during their pregnancy.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

And for thousands of years, before modern medical observation and intervention, the death rate from pregnancy was hugely higher.

in the 19th century about 500 to 1,000 mothers died for every 100,000 births. The infant mortality rate was 21,600 per 100,000 births

We've come a long way baby.

And for thousands of years before "medical observation and intervention" the death rates from all conditions was higher across the board.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Bullshit.

Every single successful abortion results in a death. Every one.

Most pregnancies do not.

What an incredibly disingenuous trick that one is attempting, to try to convince someone that pregnancy is more dangerous than abortion.