Zone1 There is no Salvation Outside the Catholic Faith

[forkintheroad7]

You're in for a rude awakening

wow... being happy over the prospect of someone not making it..

pretty sick

What religion do you belong to? It must be that once saved always saved garbage

which ironically contradicts that other Protestant heresy of sola scriptura since the Bible says over and over, Old T and New

that we are saved according to what we DO

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Jesus said He is the Way, the Truth and the Life and that no one goes to the Father except through HIM (Jesus).

So Jews are damned unless they enter Christ's Church before death

There is the resurrection of the dead AFTER the Millennium where the vast majority of Mankind will learn the truth.

God is not willing that any perish but that all comes to the knowledge of Christ. All will, each in their own time

 

[forkintheroad7]

And neither did your "Simon".
I've already given you the BIBLICAL DEFINITION of God's Church.

You reject His church for your traditions

that's ironic. Protestants are the ones who reject 2000 year old Traditions established by Christ Himself.

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Too bad there aren't any well-educated posters here, apparently

 

[Carl in Michigan]

wow... being happy over the prospect of someone not making it..

pretty sick

What religion do you belong to? It must be that once saved always saved garbage

which ironically contradicts that other Protestant heresy of sola scriptura since the Bible says over and over, Old T and New

that we are saved according to what we DO

"A rude awakening" doesn't mean I condemn you to hell as you've done to me.

You're in for a rude awakening when you discover the truth about your church

 

[hadit]

Jesus' church is found in the hearts of every person who has faith in Him and is walking in relationship with Him. Anything beyond that is puffed up pride and tribalism. When we stand before the throne in worship, we will be rubbing elbows with a great crowd from ALL walks of life, races, creeds and denominations, and guess what, no one is going to care what name was on the door of your church.

 

[The Irish Ram]

For me, the Torah and the light of Israel is the path that H@shem chose for me.

Why would H@shem choose the Law for you when Christ put us under a much better covenant?

 

[forkintheroad7]

There's a video at that site (OP)

where a former gang member speaks of his experiences of getting shot, almost dying, visiting Hell while the medics worked on him.

He says that everything is important in your life, everything you do or neglect to do, that people end up in Hell for what they felt were small things, like gossiping. Souls there were surprised they ended up there.

I guess it was a rude awakening

 

[forkintheroad7]

"A rude awakening" doesn't mean I condemn you to hell as you've done to me.

You're in for a rude awakening when you discover the truth about your church

You are in for a rude awakening because you hate Christ's True Church. No one here including you has ever explained to me WHERE they themselves find the True Church Christ founded. Only the Catholic Church can be traced back to the first century, whereas there is no Protestant church that goes back further than the 16th century.

You don't even CARE where the real Church is at... so that alone will land you in Hell. You care about other things in your life, but not about Christ's Church... messed up priorities.

Also, I am not the one who invented God's laws and set up the Church Christ founded,... so quit acting like I am the one "condemning you to Hell"

You do that to yourself

 

[forkintheroad7]

There is the resurrection of the dead AFTER the Millennium where the vast majority of Mankind will learn the truth.

God is not willing that any perish but that all comes to the knowledge of Christ. All will, each in their own time

God is not willing but man has free will so man is willing (until he arrives in Hell of course)

False doctrines send people to Hell, esp the demonic Once Saved Always Saved LIE

 

[Magnus]

The Catholic Church (no longer extant in the Vatican) has taught this (extra ecclessiam nulla salus [Outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation]) for 20+ centuries.

A priest named Father Feeney persisted in teaching this dogma in the 40s and 50s.

Vatican staff defied him and threatened him, finally "excommunicating him" but it was not a real excommunication for a plethora of reasons...

See this site for details

Modernists use Anti-Feeney Pseudo-Holy Office Letter to ‘justify’ Francis’ latest heresy

MHFM: It’s interesting that certain modernist defenders of the Whore of Babylon (i.e. the Vatican II Sect) are citing the pseudo-Holy Office letter, called Suprema Haec Sacra (dated Aug. 8, 1949), written against Fr. Feeney, [...]

vaticancatholic.com

Another interesting (and at times accidentally comical-at least to me)
video on heresy

Christian Wagner’s Lies, Contradictions & Errors Exposed

This video contains many important quotes and facts that are relevant to many aspects of the current controversies. 0:00 Intro0:54 Wagner Falsifies Theological History On Loss Of Office2:12 Wagner’s Lies About Florence, Torquemada & Salvation3:31 He Says You Must Interpret Councils According To...

endtimes.video

First they “defied him” and then threatened him and finally excommunicated him… ????

 

[The Irish Ram]

Jews have been saved since Mt Sinai.

If that was the case, then there would have been no need for the Law, or sacrificing to cover your sins.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Why would H@shem choose the Law for you when Christ put us under a much better covenant?

Everyone has to make their own decisions for their own reasons. Experience, lineage, whatever.

I came to G-d because from the moment of my birth it was decided for me, I just never knew. It wasn't my decision but my actions almost always involved accepted the parameters without my prior conscience pursuit, it was divine in nature perhaps.

We will see if I am able to continue this pursuit but I know what I believe and understand why I believe it.

The dye was cast permanently when I had the most profound dream I've ever had, by far. I'm not one to dream much nor believe in ghosts but this was the second experience I've had in my life, the first decades ago. This dream was powerful enough for me to realize that I had better listen. Thus I dare not taunt or insult G-d, regardless of how others might project an alternative discourse.

If you or anyone else on this forum has more tangible evidence to provide that would suggest more than what I have been advised through means I cannot explain, well, I am all ears.

 

[forkintheroad7]

Hell doesn't exist yet.
At the end of the Millennium, the EARTH will become a LAKE OF FIRE.

If you're not RESURRECTED as a SPIRIT BEING/Son of God, your fate is to become ash

HERESY

People go to where they belong soon after they die

 

[The Irish Ram]

that's ironic. Protestants are the ones who reject 2000 year old Traditions established by Christ Himself.

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Too bad there aren't any well-educated posters here, apparently

So, Christ is going to rule and reign from the Vatican? Find that in the Bible for me...

 

[forkintheroad7]

If you or anyone else on this forum has more tangible evidence to provide that would suggest more than what I have been advised through means I cannot explain, well, I am all ears.

The videos at the sites mentioned in OP are very informative. The Dimond Brothers have studied these issues for decades. Their information is based on Scripture, Church tradition, papal documents (save those issued by the modern day heretic "popes" [but those aren't papal documents]).

They don't just blab off what they THINK is true or what they WANT to believe is true (despite ancient Church teachings to the contrary)..

like many posters I could name...

 

[forkintheroad7]

"A rude awakening" doesn't mean I condemn you to hell as you've done to me.

You're in for a rude awakening when you discover the truth about your church

Unlike most posters here, I have studied my Church in-depth, and from reliable sources who have actually studied (in depth) ex cathedra documents written by the valid popes, along w/ Church history, etc. I've been doing this myself for many years. Too bad Protestants don't do that.. They may realize that the "catholic church" they see in their head is not the Catholic Church at all... just a straw man

Scott Hahn did study Catholicism, studied scripture until he was blue in the face and found it was CATHOLIC.

He apparently has stopped studying, though, because the last few popes are NOT real popes (as I believe he himself thinks). But in any case, every now and then a Protestant studies things and actually begins to understand Catholicism... !

Who knew that was possible!!!!!!!!

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Unlike most posters here, I have studied my Church in-depth, and from reliable sources who have actually studied (in depth) ex cathedra documents written by the valid popes, along w/ Church history, etc. I've been doing this myself for many years. Too bad Protestants don't do that.. They may realize that the "catholic church" they see in their head is not the Catholic Church at all... just a straw man

Scott Hahn did study Catholicism, studied scripture until he was blue in the face and found it was CATHOLIC.

He apparently has stopped studying, though, because the last few popes are NOT real popes (as I believe he himself thinks). But in any case, every now and then a Protestant studies things and actually begins to understand Catholicism... !

Who knew that was possible!!!!!!!!

If you were a converted Christian you would at least be on the path of rejecting pagan Sunday and the holidays you observe instead of God's Holy Days.

It was your Church under Constantine who persecuted the Church of God for "Judaizing on the Sabbath."

.most people won't wake up until Jesus unseats Satan as god of this world

 

[The Irish Ram]

Hell doesn't exist yet.

Where is the rich man then? The one that asked Abraham to warn his brothers?
He is in hell to this day and will be on the docket at the White Throne Judgment:
Rev. 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man (not spirits) according to their works.

We know where Hell is located. Jesus went to Abraham's Bosom/Paradise and Hell was on the other side of the chasm that separated the two.
Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
^
That means Hell existed when Christ went to Abraham's Bosom there, and gives the location.

The earth doesn't catch fire. The Lake of Fire is a Lake. There will be masses of humans, and those of us who returned with Christ to end Armageddon. They don't all burn up. In fact, God and Heaven descends on Jerusalem after that, to a new Heaven and a new Earth.

Ezekiel 37:27; 2 Corinthians 6:16 -
I will make my dwelling among them andwalk among them,. andI will be their God,. and they shall be my people

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Rev. 21:22
Behold the tabernacle of God is with men and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself shall be with them, and be their God
.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

You are in for a rude awakening because you hate Christ's True Church. No one here including you has ever explained to me WHERE they themselves find the True Church Christ founded. Only the Catholic Church can be traced back to the first century, whereas there is no Protestant church that goes back further than the 16th century.

You don't even CARE where the real Church is at... so that alone will land you in Hell. You care about other things in your life, but not about Christ's Church... messed up priorities.

Also, I am not the one who invented God's laws and set up the Church Christ founded,... so quit acting like I am the one "condemning you to Hell"

You do that to yourself

I've already told you countless times that that church, the Church of Constantine was founded by Simon Magus after Peter, of the True Church, threw him out for trying to BUY an apostleship.

You will ignore this historical fact and continue spouting your errors.

And I will again give you the BIBLICAL DEFINITION of God's Church:

If any man has not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His

 

[Meriweather]

I've already told you countless times that that church, the Church of Constantine was founded by Simon Magus after Peter, of the True Church, threw him out for trying to BUY an apostleship.

Try re-reading history. Simon Magus only association with the Church and Constantine was the heresy for which he was known. Simon lived in the first century (prior to 100 A.D) and Constantine did not become emperor until 306 A.D. At that time the Church was still fighting gnostic heresies and Constantine encouraged this fight to continue.

Next: Name one gnostic heresy the Catholic Church ever followed and is still following today.