Zone1 I just figured out why Protestants are so obstinate against the Catholic Church

[initforme]

Watch the movie SPOTLIGHT.

 

[hadit]

well, the protestants here are ignorant and want to stay that way. You can tell by their posts that despite them calling themselves Christian at every turn, they despise Catholics and treat them shabbily, which Jesus does not approve of.

And yet you continue holding yourself up as superior to others who call on Jesus' name, are part of His Body and walk in His Spirit yet are not part of your narrow sect of Catholicism. Jesus does not approve of those actions, so stop them.

 

[initforme]

And yet you continue holding yourself up as superior to others who call on Jesus' name, are part of His Body and walk in His Spirit yet are not part of your narrow sect of Catholicism. Jesus does not approve of those actions, so stop them.

Yep. Jesus was all about the least in society and helping them. Those who love the wealthy have twisted the Bible and Christianity.

 

[Foxfyre]

It is not that complicated.

Jesus promised that the Holy Ghost would guide the Church until the Second Coming. The RC Church therefore maintains the position that is the one true Church. Not perfect by any means, but trying its best.

This one principle mocks all of Protestantism. How can you have hundreds of different denominations, claiming either that (a) they are the One True Church, or (b) it doesn't matter which Church you profess. Both are untenable.

The RCC, Orthodox/Protestant denominations are organizations formed via social contract by groups of people who wanted a particular worship experience and that promoted a particular theology. These are not without value to those participating in them, but not one, in my opinion, can claim to be the 'one true Church.'

Jesus' Church was/is not an organization with rules/regulations/specified liturgy etc. but rather is made up of those who had/have a personal relationship with Him and who promote each Christian seeking to know God's will and to do it.

And I very much believe there are devout Christians in all the RCC/Orthodox/Protestant denominations and all make up the 'one true Church' despite bad popes, pastors, church leaders, pretenders, etc. etc.

 

[forkintheroad7]

The RCC, Orthodox/Protestant denominations are organizations formed via social contract by groups of people who wanted a particular worship experience and that promoted a particular theology. These are not without value to those participating in them, but not one, in my opinion, can claim to be the 'one true Church.'

If you were to study the same information and history that I have, you would not write this.

As someone once said "To be deep in history is to cease being Protestant."

 

[Foxfyre]

If you were to study the same information and history that I have, you would not write this.

As someone once said "To be deep in history is to cease being Protestant."

If you were to spend the years of studying Church history and the development of Christian thought that I have, I think you would write what I wrote.

 

[forkintheroad7]

If you were to spend the years of studying Church history and the development of Christian thought that I have, I think you would write what I wrote.

Yes, if I were you, I would write what you indeed wrote.. LOL

And if you had studied what I know and had had my experiences with Catholicism, you would write what I wrote.

Now... did anyone really learn anything from this present conversation?

no

 

[surada]

If you were to spend the years of studying Church history and the development of Christian thought that I have, I think you would write what I wrote.

Trying to elevate your victim status?

 

[Foxfyre]

Trying to elevate your victim status?

Still haven't signed up for that remedial reading comprehension course I see.

 

[ding]

I just figured out why Protestants are so obstinate against the Catholic Church...

Is it because of pieces of shit like the OP?

 

[Mashmont]

It's a big revelation to me, although I kind of had the pieces of the puzzle for the last 10 years or more.

I used to think they were obstinate because it's been 500 LONG years since the Catholic Church was THE Church in the world for Christians.. Luther divided the Church and now we have something like 40,000 different denominations, all teaching their own thing.

But it is not just this 500 year gap.. Look who is at the helm in the Vatican?!

Need i say more? That guy is not Catholic, not Christian and supports all kind of liberal causes.

I've known that for years and known that non-Catholic people who appreciate Jesus did not like Francis, meaning they didn't find him to be Christian. But I just today got it why they think Catholicism is not truly Christian.. namely: the Vatican is NOT!

So yeh, we can thank not only Luther but all the fake popes we've had in the last 65 years for all this evil that keeps people out of Heaven.

It is beyond disgusting

None of the popes of the past 65 years has spoken heresy. St JP2 is one of the greatest of all time. Everyone recognizes that Two others are canonized saints. Francis has not spoken heresy, but some of his personal opinions differ from mine and others as on so-called climate change and the immigration situation in our country. I think he should be emphasizing the evils of abortion and Marxism as John Paul 2 did. Also very importantly, you have the worldwide leftist media distorting and lying about things he says, since he doesn’t speak much English.

 

[surada]

Still haven't signed up for that remedial reading comprehension course I see.

The claim that Protestants hate Catholicism is really stupid. Some Catholics continue to claim such drivel.

 

[Foxfyre]

The claim that Protestants hate Catholicism is really stupid. Some Catholics continue to claim such drivel.

I made so such claim and it has nothing to do with the post I responded to.

 

[surada]

It's a big revelation to me, although I kind of had the pieces of the puzzle for the last 10 years or more.

I used to think they were obstinate because it's been 500 LONG years since the Catholic Church was THE Church in the world for Christians.. Luther divided the Church and now we have something like 40,000 different denominations, all teaching their own thing.

But it is not just this 500 year gap.. Look who is at the helm in the Vatican?!

Need i say more? That guy is not Catholic, not Christian and supports all kind of liberal causes.

I've known that for years and known that non-Catholic people who appreciate Jesus did not like Francis, meaning they didn't find him to be Christian. But I just today got it why they think Catholicism is not truly Christian.. namely: the Vatican is NOT!

So yeh, we can thank not only Luther but all the fake popes we've had in the last 65 years for all this evil that keeps people out of Heaven.

It is beyond disgusting

You sure make Catholics look bad.

 

[surada]

It's a big revelation to me, although I kind of had the pieces of the puzzle for the last 10 years or more.

I used to think they were obstinate because it's been 500 LONG years since the Catholic Church was THE Church in the world for Christians.. Luther divided the Church and now we have something like 40,000 different denominations, all teaching their own thing.

But it is not just this 500 year gap.. Look who is at the helm in the Vatican?!

Need i say more? That guy is not Catholic, not Christian and supports all kind of liberal causes.

I've known that for years and known that non-Catholic people who appreciate Jesus did not like Francis, meaning they didn't find him to be Christian. But I just today got it why they think Catholicism is not truly Christian.. namely: the Vatican is NOT!

So yeh, we can thank not only Luther but all the fake popes we've had in the last 65 years for all this evil that keeps people out of Heaven.

It is beyond disgusting

Most Protestants never think about the Catholic Church. You're obsessing is really weird.

 

[forkintheroad7]

None of the popes of the past 65 years has spoken heresy. St JP2 is one of the greatest of all time. Everyone recognizes that Two others are canonized saints. Francis has not spoken heresy, but some of his personal opinions differ from mine and others as on so-called climate change and the immigration situation in our country. I think he should be emphasizing the evils of abortion and Marxism as John Paul 2 did. Also very importantly, you have the worldwide leftist media distorting and lying about things he says, since he doesn’t speak much English.

This is NOT true. I have studied the writings of the last few popes and they are beyond heretical, they are blasphemous.. extremely UN-Catholic / anti-Catholic, which means they are anti-Christian of course, and pagan.

JP II taught that all religions are about equal, that all of them lead to God. Well, all religions have some truth in them, and that truth can lead you to believing there is a God, but believing in God --that by itself--will not get you to Heaven (see James 2:14 or thereabouts). "Even the demons believe and tremble." Believing is only a 1st step..

Jesus said that no one goes to the Father except through HIM-- which means accepting and adhering to HIS CHURCH, the TRUE Catholic Church-- not the abomination in the Vatican since 1958

 

[Blackrook]

Protestant means "one who protests." When one protests as a central tenet of faith, one must hate that which one is protesting: the Catholic Church.

 

[hadit]

This is NOT true. I have studied the writings of the last few popes and they are beyond heretical, they are blasphemous.. extremely UN-Catholic / anti-Catholic, which means they are anti-Christian of course, and pagan.

This is the kind of Church the Martin Luther and the other leaders of the Reformation broke away from. It was irredeemably corrupt, so they had to leave it.

JP II taught that all religions are about equal, that all of them lead to God. Well, all religions have some truth in them, and that truth can lead you to believing there is a God, but believing in God --that by itself--will not get you to Heaven (see James 2:14 or thereabouts). "Even the demons believe and tremble." Believing is only a 1st step..

That's because faith and belief are different things.

Jesus said that no one goes to the Father except through HIM-- which means accepting and adhering to HIS CHURCH, the TRUE Catholic Church-- not the abomination in the Vatican since 1958

Show us in Scripture where it means that.

 

[theHawk]

It's a big revelation to me, although I kind of had the pieces of the puzzle for the last 10 years or more.

I used to think they were obstinate because it's been 500 LONG years since the Catholic Church was THE Church in the world for Christians.. Luther divided the Church and now we have something like 40,000 different denominations, all teaching their own thing.

But it is not just this 500 year gap.. Look who is at the helm in the Vatican?!

Need i say more? That guy is not Catholic, not Christian and supports all kind of liberal causes.

I've known that for years and known that non-Catholic people who appreciate Jesus did not like Francis, meaning they didn't find him to be Christian. But I just today got it why they think Catholicism is not truly Christian.. namely: the Vatican is NOT!

So yeh, we can thank not only Luther but all the fake popes we've had in the last 65 years for all this evil that keeps people out of Heaven.

It is beyond disgusting

The Pope has made no official decree that changes the teachings of the church.

Him speaking at some conference in a vague manner does not mean anything, other than he is old and maybe loses his train of thought. He might be considered the Joe Biden of Popes if he gets any worse.

 

[ding]

The Pope has made no official decree that changes the teachings of the church.

Him speaking at some conference in a vague manner does not mean anything, other than he is old and maybe loses his train of thought. He might be considered the Joe Biden of Popes if he gets any worse.

I think a good parallel is green washing except he is woke washing. Oil companies green wash themselves by talking about how they are helping the world be green while increasing their spending on oil exploration and production. The pope is doing the same thing. He's speaking in vague terms about all kinds of social issues but the Church hasn't changed its position on those social issues. He needs to be more transparent.