There is No Future Battle of Armageddon:

The list of kingdoms Daniel has visions of are the Babylonians, Medes, Persians, Macedonians, and the fractured successor states to the Macedonian Empire (the kingdoms of the Diadochi); it was between two of these Diadochi kingdoms, one from the north (the Syrian Seleucids) and one from the south (Ptolemaic Egypt) that wars were fought.

Daniel refers to the Syrian Wars, a series of conflicts fought between these two kingdoms with Judea caught in the middle. Under Antiochus IV the Seleucids finally took Judea from the Ptolemies, and then instituted a series of harsh oppressive measures of forced Hellenization.

Including forbidding the Jews from circumcising their children, observing the Sabbath, celebrating the holy days, and the worse offense of all, sacrificing a swine to an image of Zeus in the Holy of Holies itself--"the abomination that causes desolation". Compare with the 1st chapter of 1 Maccabees.


yes 4 world powers listed--then the roman empire came#5, then the British empire #6--The 2horned beast is the final world power of Rev 13--The 7 heads of the 1st beast listed represent 7 world powers will be before the end. All have been watching rev 13 for years.
 
yes 4 world powers listed--then the roman empire came#5, then the British empire #6--The 2horned beast is the final world power of Rev 13--The 7 heads of the 1st beast listed represent 7 world powers will be before the end. All have been watching rev 13 for years.

The goat with the broken horn was Alexander the Great. He died young and his empire was divided 4 ways.
 
Yes not a flood, but all can see smaller floods occuring all over the earth. Revelation is clear-Jesus will lead Gods armies to this earth Rev 19:11-14-- Rev 19:18 along with Dan 2:44 is the result of that. rev 16 is clear--EVERY KINGDOM ON EARTH will be mislead to stand in opposition to Gods king. And rev 19:18 shows a kingdom is made up of govt, armies, supporters-- This has not occurred, it is coming.
This has not occurred, it is coming.
... with no survivors.

- how dense is a christian, either you will die trying to defeat evil or if you are the last to die, while trying (as would have been the case with noah) the return will be to kill all who are remaining - who are "all" evil ... the last act - end of the story.

not though the Garden, where they came up with that is beyond comprehension.
 
- how dense is a christian, either you will die trying to defeat evil or if you are the last to die, while trying (as would have been the case with noah) the return will be to kill all who are remaining - who are "all" evil ... the last act - end of the story.

not though the Garden, where they came up with that is beyond comprehension.

Daniel is writing about what happened in 168 BC not the future. Some Christians skip Antochus IV and the Maccabean Revolt.

The Garden of Eden comes from an older Babylonian myth where noisy humans tended the garden for the gods.
 
Daniel is writing about what happened in 168 BC not the future. Some Christians skip Antochus IV and the Maccabean Revolt.

The Garden of Eden comes from an older Babylonian myth where noisy humans tended the garden for the gods.
Pierogies come from samosas
 
Pierogies come from samosas

kjw47
BreezeWood

The Maccabees were a group of Jewish rebel warriors who took control of Judea, which at the time was part of the Seleucid Empire and ruled by Antiochus IV.

They founded the Hasmonean dynasty, which ruled from 167 BCE to 37 BCE, being a fully independent kingdom from about 110 to 63 BCE.

They reasserted the Jewish religion, partly by forced conversion, expanded the boundaries of Judea by conquest and reduced the influence of Hellenism and Hellenistic Judaism.
 
That has nothing to do with my post, But once broken was no longer a world power. They were all broken.

You will never understand Daniel if you don't understand Antiochus IV and the Maccabees. You are wide open to charlatans.
 
- how dense is a christian, either you will die trying to defeat evil or if you are the last to die, while trying (as would have been the case with noah) the return will be to kill all who are remaining - who are "all" evil ... the last act - end of the story.

not though the Garden, where they came up with that is beyond comprehension.
Matthew 24:2 teaches different. The righteous will be brought through. They will not be fighting. Jesus will lead Gods angelic armies to the earth, they will be fighting. Rev 19:11-16-- The result- Daniel 2:44 Rev 19: 17-18
 
Matthew 24:2 teaches different. The righteous will be brought through. They will not be fighting. Jesus will lead Gods angelic armies to the earth, they will be fighting. Rev 19:11-16-- The result- Daniel 2:44 Rev 19: 17-18

Matthew 24:2. Jesus said — There shall not be left one stone upon another — A proverbial and figurative expression to denote an utter destruction; and the prophecy would have been amply fulfilled, if the city and temple had been utterly ruined, though every single stone had not been overturned. But it happened that the words were almost literally fulfilled: for after the temple was burned, Titus, the Roman general, ordered the very foundations of it to be dug up; after which the ground on which it stood was ploughed up by Turnus Rufus.
 
You will never understand Daniel if you don't understand Antiochus IV and the Maccabees. You are wide open to charlatans.
You dont know God or his son teaching what you are. There was a minor fullfillment back then. The major one is coming. Let your teachers prove Jesus lead Gods armies to the earth back then. There would be eye witness accounts of that for sure. It has not happened yet.
Murders after murders every day in every city in the usa like never before. Men have become faint out of fear not knowing the way out. The rich are destroying everything, making many more poor and they are moving into the streets.
Even when the economy is very bad, they are taking every dime they can get out of every country, because they do not care about the country or its people, but without both of those they would have nothing. No wonder God said--For a rich man to enter Gods kingdom, it would be easier to put a camel through the eye of a needle.
 
Matthew 24:2. Jesus said — There shall not be left one stone upon another — A proverbial and figurative expression to denote an utter destruction; and the prophecy would have been amply fulfilled, if the city and temple had been utterly ruined, though every single stone had not been overturned. But it happened that the words were almost literally fulfilled: for after the temple was burned, Titus, the Roman general, ordered the very foundations of it to be dug up; after which the ground on which it stood was ploughed up by Turnus Rufus.

Yes the warning to apostocised Israel. It did occur, revelation has not. Revelation will occur over the entire inhabited earth. Every kingdom will be mislead to stand in opposition to Gods king.
 
Yes the warning to apostocised Israel. It did occur, revelation has not.

Antiochus IV defiled the temple. The Maccabees defeated him and rededicated the temple.

The temple wasn't destroyed until 70 AD by Titus and foreign armies.
 
Antiochus IV defiled the temple. The Maccabees defeated him and rededicated the temple.

The temple wasn't destroyed until 70 AD by Titus and foreign armies.
exactly it wasnt Jesus leading Gods armies to the earth, he is coming.
 
Antiochus IV defiled the temple. The Maccabees defeated him and rededicated the temple.

The temple wasn't destroyed until 70 AD by Titus and foreign armies.
I think you have missed the most important point about revelation. The strongest evidence available says it was written in 96 AD--Showing it has not occurred as of yet. Plus all the other evidence i have shared to you from that book that has not occurred.. And i as well know that a few have tried to say it was written in 68 or 69 ad. But the strongest evidence says 96 ad.
 
Matthew 24:2 teaches different. The righteous will be brought through. They will not be fighting. Jesus will lead Gods angelic armies to the earth, they will be fighting. Rev 19:11-16-- The result- Daniel 2:44 Rev 19: 17-18

it makes no sense the heavens will accomplish for humanity what humanity chose for it's own destiny, a&e - self determination. for remission upon completion to the Everlasting - the triumph of good vs evil - the purity that is required, and the appropriate judgement rendered.

and obviously, upon the triumph of evil - there will be no survivors - noah.
 
it makes no sense the heavens will accomplish for humanity what humanity chose for it's own destiny, a&e - self determination. for remission upon completion to the Everlasting - the triumph of good vs evil - the purity that is required, and the appropriate judgement rendered.

and obviously, upon the triumph of evil - there will be no survivors - noah.

God has set the day and hour.
 
God has set the day and hour.

upon conclusion to the parable of noah.

for the spoken religion of antiquity - judgment is rendered when the triumph of good vs evil is concluded where all remaining are one or the other -

if the good are who failed, anyone's guess as whether they will be redeemed or not, best to be triumphant correctly to persist accordingly.
 
kjw47
BreezeWood

The Maccabees were a group of Jewish rebel warriors who took control of Judea, which at the time was part of the Seleucid Empire and ruled by Antiochus IV.

They founded the Hasmonean dynasty, which ruled from 167 BCE to 37 BCE, being a fully independent kingdom from about 110 to 63 BCE.

They reasserted the Jewish religion, partly by forced conversion, expanded the boundaries of Judea by conquest and reduced the influence of Hellenism and Hellenistic Judaism.

Well-done...,
 

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