The Woke Right

[AzogtheDefiler]

HINT: The right has sold their soul to the same demon. Culture war über alles!

That’s a lie. I have not and we aren’t a monolith.

 

[j-mac]

I do Not see him as evil. I like his policies and his persona. The assassination attempt and how he reacted was impressive. You calling me a sheep is hilarious. You contrarians are interesting people.

Actually I think contrarians are pathetic narcissists that go through life miserable....

 

[BrokeLoser]

FEAR!!!

Hahaha…“FEAR” and “FASCISM” are the new buzzwords being used by globalist purple hairs…You aren’t being taken seriously by core Americans.

dblack

 

[JoeB131]

Israel was formed before even my dad was born. It’s there. People who live there were born there and just want peace. Islam is an ideology of hate and intolerance. Talk about religious zealots, they kill you over a cartoon. My issue with anti Israel stance is that Israel just wants peace. Islamists hate one another and everyone else.

That's not really an argument. South Africa was there for hundreds of years before Apartheid finally fell.

If they want peace, they should go back to Europe.

The problem with the whole "Islam is crazy" is I'm old enough to remember when the Zionists had everyone convinced Arafat was a Godless Commie who loved Russia. Now we are scared of Islam, so they are all Islamic fanatics. When all they really are is people who want their land back.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Hahaha…“FEAR” and “FASCISM” are the new buzzwords being used by globalist purple hairs…You aren’t being taken seriously by core Americans.

dblack

To them you and I are the same person. So so guess to me, he, Mac and JoeB are the same person.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

That's not really an argument. South Africa was there for hundreds of years before Apartheid finally fell.

If they want peace, they should go back to Europe.

The problem with the whole "Islam is crazy" is I'm old enough to remember when the Zionists had everyone convinced Arafat was a Godless Commie who loved Russia. Now we are scared of Islam, so they are all Islamic fanatics. When all they really are is people who want their land back.

Take away Israel and Islam is still crazy. Again in Israel they just want peace. IRGC wants war. It’s not their land. We aren’t giving America to the Comanches or TX and Cali to Mexico. Time to move on.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

That's not really an argument. South Africa was there for hundreds of years before Apartheid finally fell.

If they want peace, they should go back to Europe.

The problem with the whole "Islam is crazy" is I'm old enough to remember when the Zionists had everyone convinced Arafat was a Godless Commie who loved Russia. Now we are scared of Islam, so they are all Islamic fanatics. When all they really are is people who want their land back.

Charlie Hedbo happened in France. Zero to do with Israel. Islamists are demons

 

[dblack]

To them you and I are the same person.

No, I don't think you are the abysmal person that BL is. But I think far more Trumpsters are like him

So so guess to me, he, Mac and JoeB are the same person.

Never said that. Just pointing out shared hypocrisies.

 

[JoeB131]

1) We can discuss legal immigration but to me it’s like having a hole in your roof that needs immediate fixing but then saying but our bathroom is outdated. Both may be true but the roof is priority one.

Except we keep trying to fix the hole in the roof for the last 40 years. The problem is that as long as you have a reason for them to come here, they'll figure out a way to come here.

In many ways, we've made it worse. Back before they started screaming "border security', Migrants would come up for harvest season and go home when it was over. Now because getting back and forth across the border is such a pain in the ass, they do it once and they stay.

2) When he was president we didn’t have wars.

Actually, we had wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Yemen.

3) We don’t have a revenue problem we have a spending problem. I d like to explore that. Disagree on tax breaks. Top 10% pay 90% of taxes

No, we have a revenue problem. I keep asking wingnuts what they want to cut with real numbers, and they keep coming up short.
The top 20% have 87% of the wealth, and they are paying nowhere near that in taxes.

4) We can. China’s economy isn’t great. We can do both. Invest in nuclear for sure.

China is beating the pants off of us.

5) Respect is earned. Forcing me to live in someone else’s delusional reality isn’t practical. Basing jobs on skin color quotas is racist. DEI = less for straight white men. It’s crazy and needs to go.

Again, it sounds like you are the one with the hangup about trans people. And how many Trans people do you even encounter? the way you guys carry on, you'd think we were being overrun by them.
Affirmative Action is merely a counter for white privilege. I've worked with far more "idiot nephews" than I have DEI hires in my career.

6) Leftist cities like San Fran, LA. DAs have been recalled and we need to end sanctuary cities.

Some have been. CA has some goofy voting laws.
Sanctuary Cities aren't the problem so much as cities don't want to do the Feds job for them. Sure, you can lock up an undocumented immigrant, but if it takes the feds years to process his case, that's an expense most cities don't want to spend.

7) I disagree but I have COVID fatigue. Mandates are for Fascists.

We all have Covid Fatigue, but that didn't mean that some mandates weren't necessary.

 

[BrokeLoser]

To them you and I are the same person. So so guess to me, he, Mac and JoeB are the same person.

He’s a confused soul…always shouting us down for voting for the lesser of two evils while he votes for the lesser of three evils.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

A couple of conservative Brits discuss the Woke Right with an American conservative. And just like many lefties are against the PC/Identity Politics crap that has caused so much damage to the party, he sees that "Wokeism" is counter-productive on the Right as well.

His definition of Woke Right includes:

• Since this comes from the Right, he calls it "Woke Neo-Fascism", which makes sense
• They behave exactly like the Woke Left...
  • Targeted influence campaigns
  • Create the illusion that there's massive distaste for this or that
  • Social Media manipulation
  • Highly invested in Reactionary Identity Politics, "answering evil with evil, which the Bible says not to do, by the way"
  • Grievance, everything is bad for straight white Christian men
  • We're the oppressed minority
  • Convinced the elites are trying to marginalize and de-legitimize them
  • Lots of lying, character attacks, lots of manipulative speech
  • Critical of America -- America bad, America bad, America bad

Sure sounds familiar.

Anyone with a problem with this can contact James Lindsay directly!

What is the Woke Right?

The right has learned to fight fire with fire.

 

[BrokeLoser]

No, I don't think you are the abysmal person that BL is. But I think far more Trumpsters are like him

“Like him”? What does that mean exactly, can you explain?
I bet you can’t, not without exposing yourself a bit.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Votto what are you even laughing at?

“White as snow” refers to the cleanliness of the soul, not the color of skin.

Are you seriously that confused??

 

[whitehall]

There is no comparison between the political designation of "conservative" in the country formerly known as England and American conservatives. They still call politicians "Lords" in G.B. That's why we kicked their sorry asses out of America 250 years ago

 

[iamwhatiseem]

They're as hypersensitive as the man they adore.

A lousy way to go through life, I reckon.

Oh but not YOU, you aren't hyper sensitive...

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

No, I don't think you are the abysmal person that BL is. But I think far more Trumpsters are like him

Never said that. Just pointing out shared hypocrisies.

But you have zero proof of that. You’re just typing with emotion

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I am genuinely curious.

dblack and JoeB131

From our interactions you two are very much alike and aligned. Why aren’t you on the same page. The one difference is that black says he is more libertarian and joe is clearly aligned with (D) but my guess is if both lived in CO, both would vote for Polis.

Both hate Trump. Both think Trump voters are racist dummies.

What do I have wrong?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Except we keep trying to fix the hole in the roof for the last 40 years. The problem is that as long as you have a reason for them to come here, they'll figure out a way to come here.

In many ways, we've made it worse. Back before they started screaming "border security', Migrants would come up for harvest season and go home when it was over. Now because getting back and forth across the border is such a pain in the ass, they do it once and they stay.



Actually, we had wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Yemen.



No, we have a revenue problem. I keep asking wingnuts what they want to cut with real numbers, and they keep coming up short.
The top 20% have 87% of the wealth, and they are paying nowhere near that in taxes.



China is beating the pants off of us.



Again, it sounds like you are the one with the hangup about trans people. And how many Trans people do you even encounter? the way you guys carry on, you'd think we were being overrun by them.
Affirmative Action is merely a counter for white privilege. I've worked with far more "idiot nephews" than I have DEI hires in my career.



Some have been. CA has some goofy voting laws.
Sanctuary Cities aren't the problem so much as cities don't want to do the Feds job for them. Sure, you can lock up an undocumented immigrant, but if it takes the feds years to process his case, that's an expense most cities don't want to spend.



We all have Covid Fatigue, but that didn't mean that some mandates weren't necessary.

Because my phone won’t let me do quotes responding to this is difficult. But let’s just say I disagree with a lot but I agree with some. Especially the idiot nephews part.

 

[dblack]

“Like him”? What does that mean exactly, can you explain?

For you? No.

 

[dblack]

I am genuinely curious.

dblack and JoeB131

From our interactions you two are very much alike and aligned.

WTF??? That's one of the silliest things you've posted.