The Woke Right

[AzogtheDefiler]

Yeah. Trumpsters like to focus on the import issues facing our nation.

I do

Border security
Peace through strength
Balanced Budget
Energy independence
End to woke/DEI policies
Law and order and end of cashless bail
Never again to mask / vaccine mandates

Not asking for a lot

 

[BrokeLoser]

Read every single post from BL. He's an admitted fascist, who's fear of brown people overrides every other political concern.

Hahaha…you globalists always use the word “FEAR” and it proves your dishonesty and intent every time you do.
ALL good real core Americans FEAR brown people, we FEAR an unauthorized inorganic change in demography, we FEAR a culture change, we FEAR tens of millions living among us without an identity, we FEAR tens of millions among us who don’t know what words title our Preamble. We like America just the way it was intended to be.
The question is; how indecent are you, how much do hate America, why don’t you FEAR those same things?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Ok - so do YOU agree with the shit BL is spinning here? Is he representative of Trump's party?

I don't agree your points were valid. But I do agree you're not BL. Lately though, you've been all in the the hysterical screeching - "You're secretly a leftist!!!". So my respect has been diminished significantly.

I do Not care about your respect. You may disagree with my points but I made them. Some things I agree with BL on and others less so. Again we aren’t a monolith. Me calling you a leftist is a bit of a jab but you side with leftists in your view of Trump as a demon.

 

[JoeB131]

I am not religious. Have at it.

Okay, then explain to me from a NON-religious perspective why Zionism makes sense.

Living right next to people who want to murder you seems like a pretty terrible idea from a secular point of view.

Unless of course, your history is that of annoying everyone you encounter to the point where they want to do that.

 

[Unkotare]

...FEAR brown people...why don’t you FEAR those same things?

Pathetic pussy.

 

[Unkotare]

Okay, then explain to me from a NON-religious perspective why Zionism makes sense.

Living right next to people who want to murder you seems like a pretty terrible idea from a secular point of view.

Unless of course, your history is that of annoying everyone you encounter to the point where they want to do that.

Pathetic pussy.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Okay, then explain to me from a NON-religious perspective why Zionism makes sense.

Living right next to people who want to murder you seems like a pretty terrible idea from a secular point of view.

Unless of course, your history is that of annoying everyone you encounter to the point where they want to do that.

Israel was formed before even my dad was born. It’s there. People who live there were born there and just want peace. Islam is an ideology of hate and intolerance. Talk about religious zealots, they kill you over a cartoon. My issue with anti Israel stance is that Israel just wants peace. Islamists hate one another and everyone else.

 

[dblack]

Hahaha…you globalists always use the word “FEAR” and it proves your dishonesty and intent every time you do.
ALL good real core Americans FEAR brown people, we FEAR an unauthorized inorganic change in demography, we FEAR a culture change, we FEAR tens of millions living among us without an identity, we FEAR tens of millions among us who don’t know what words title our Preamble. We like America just the way it was intended to be.
The question is; how indecent are you, how much do hate America, why don’t you FEAR those same things?

FEAR!!!

 

[dblack]

I do Not care about your respect. You may disagree with my points but I made them. Some things I agree with BL on and others less so. Again we aren’t a monolith. Me calling you a leftist is a bit of a jab but you side with leftists in your view of Trump as a demon.

I don't think of Trump as a "demon". He's an ignorant jackass riding a wave of angry idiots.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I don't think of Trump as a "demon". He's an ignorant jackass riding a wave of angry idiots.

Same difference. I do not mean a literal demon. His policy views align with mine more than that of Harris. So he got my vote. Calling me a “sheep” for voting for him as Mac does and you sort of allude to is ridiculous.

 

[Contumacious]

I don't think of Trump as a "demon". He's an ignorant jackass riding a wave of angry idiots.

Is that right? Why don't you move to a socialist paradise like Canada? Cuba? Venezuela? No idiots there - take QueMala with you.

 

[JoeB131]

I do

Border security
Peace through strength
Balanced Budget
Energy independence
End to woke/DEI policies
Law and order and end of cashless bail
Never again to mask / vaccine mandates

Not asking for a lot

Okay, these are valid points. Since you aren't being snarky, let's review.

Border Security - that's fine, but only if you fix the immigration system overall. As long as you have demand for cheap labor, you are going to have illegal immigration.

Peace Through Strength- Sounds nice. But you don't get there by alienating your allies (NATO), appeasing your adversaries because they said nice things about you (Putin, Kim), or involving yourself in someone else's fight that has nothing to do with you. (Israel/Gaza/the Middle East.)

Balanced Budget - You're never going to get there if you keep giving tax breaks to Billionaires.

Energy Independence—We are never going to get there without investing in alternative energy and weaning ourselves off fossil fuels. The Chinese are investing $890 billion in green technologies. It seems they know something we don't.

Woke/DEI- It always amazes me when people who have been part of traditionally oppressed minorities are fine with oppressing others. What does it really cost you to treat people with respect?

Law and Order - We lock up more people than any other country on earth, even Red China. We have policemen armed like soldiers. What we are doing isn't working.

End of Cashless Bail- Best thing we ever did. If someone hasn't been convicted yet, there's no reason to lock him up unless he's a danger to others. What you had with cash bail is that dangerous people could post bail (and commit more crimes) while poor people who committed non-violent crimes languished for months in prison on cases that were often dismissed when they finally got to court.

Mask/Vaccine Mandate- Countries that did these things had much lower death rates than we had. Fact. Japan particularly did fantastically in keeping the death rate down, but the PM still felt obligated to resign. With luck, we won't have another pandemic on Trump's second watch, but with a guy like RFK in charge, I'm worried.

 

[dblack]

Same difference. I do not mean a literal demon. His policy views align with mine more than that of Harris. So he got my vote. Calling me a “sheep” for voting for him as Mac does and you sort of allude to is ridiculous.

Falling for lesser of two evils is a sheepish move. Sorry, that's how I see it.

 

[SmokeALib]

Happy Holidays

Which one?

 

[j-mac]

A couple of conservative Brits discuss the Woke Right with an American conservative. And just like many lefties are against the PC/Identity Politics crap that has caused so much damage to the party, he sees that "Wokeism" is counter-productive on the Right as well.

His definition of Woke Right includes:

• Since this comes from the Right, he calls it "Woke Neo-Fascism", which makes sense
• They behave exactly like the Woke Left...
  • Targeted influence campaigns
  • Create the illusion that there's massive distaste for this or that
  • Social Media manipulation
  • Highly invested in Reactionary Identity Politics, "answering evil with evil, which the Bible says not to do, by the way"
  • Grievance, everything is bad for straight white Christian men
  • We're the oppressed minority
  • Convinced the elites are trying to marginalize and de-legitimize them
  • Lots of lying, character attacks, lots of manipulative speech
  • Critical of America -- America bad, America bad, America bad

Sure sounds familiar.

Anyone with a problem with this can contact James Lindsay directly!

What is the Woke Right?

Never hear of "right wokeism".... Sounds like yet another attempt to paint the right with what the left has sold their soul to....IOW, thread fail....

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Really? Why then does God promise to make his people white as snow?

Isaiah 1:18​

“Come now, let us reason together, says the Lord: though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red like crimson, they shall become like wool.

Psalm 51:7​

Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean; wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.

You have absolutely botched the meaning of the words here.. yikes!!!

 

[j-mac]

They're as hypersensitive as the man they adore.

A lousy way to go through life, I reckon.

Is that why idiots like you are trying their best to paint anyone who doesn't agree with you as Fascists, etc?

Look dude, just give it up.....Your threads suck, and your thought process fools no one....

 

[dblack]

Never hear of "right wokeism".... Sounds like yet another attempt to paint the right with what the left has sold their soul to....IOW, thread fail....

HINT: The right has sold their soul to the same demon. Culture war über alles!

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Okay, these are valid points. Since you aren't being snarky, let's review.

Border Security - that's fine, but only if you fix the immigration system overall. As long as you have demand for cheap labor, you are going to have illegal immigration.

Peace Through Strength- Sounds nice. But you don't get there by alienating your allies (NATO), appeasing your adversaries because they said nice things about you (Putin, Kim), or involving yourself in someone else's fight that has nothing to do with you. (Israel/Gaza/the Middle East.)

Balanced Budget - You're never going to get there if you keep giving tax breaks to Billionaires.

Energy Independence—We are never going to get there without investing in alternative energy and weaning ourselves off fossil fuels. The Chinese are investing $890 billion in green technologies. It seems they know something we don't.

Woke/DEI- It always amazes me when people who have been part of traditionally oppressed minorities are fine with oppressing others. What does it really cost you to treat people with respect?

Law and Order - We lock up more people than any other country on earth, even Red China. We have policemen armed like soldiers. What we are doing isn't working.

End of Cashless Bail- Best thing we ever did. If someone hasn't been convicted yet, there's no reason to lock him up unless he's a danger to others. What you had with cash bail is that dangerous people could post bail (and commit more crimes) while poor people who committed non-violent crimes languished for months in prison on cases that were often dismissed when they finally got to court.

Mask/Vaccine Mandate- Countries that did these things had much lower death rates than we had. Fact. Japan particularly did fantastically in keeping the death rate down, but the PM still felt obligated to resign. With luck, we won't have another pandemic on Trump's second watch, but with a guy like RFK in charge, I'm worried.

1) We can discuss legal immigration but to me it’s like having a hole in your roof that needs immediate fixing but then saying but our bathroom is outdated. Both may be true but the roof is priority one.

2) When he was president we didn’t have wars. He killed ISIS and IRGC leaders. Abraham Accords. Great relations with the KSA. NATO is sort of weird as Europe has gone so far left that I do not blame him for being suspicious. Neither Putin nor Rocketman did anything while Trump was in office. Peace through Strenth.

3) We don’t have a revenue problem we have a spending problem. I d like to explore that. Disagree on tax breaks. Top 10% pay 90% of taxes

4) We can. China’s economy isn’t great. We can do both. Invest in nuclear for sure.

5) Respect is earned. Forcing me to live in someone else’s delusional reality isn’t practical. Basing jobs on skin color quotas is racist. DEI = less for straight white men. It’s crazy and needs to go.

6) Leftist cities like San Fran, LA. DAs have been recalled and we need to end sanctuary cities.

7) I disagree but I have COVID fatigue. Mandates are for Fascists.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Falling for lesser of two evils is a sheepish move. Sorry, that's how I see it.

I do Not see him as evil. I like his policies and his persona. The assassination attempt and how he reacted was impressive. You calling me a sheep is hilarious. You contrarians are interesting people.