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If I make Christians look dumb because I believe the Bible and not you and science, then shame on them. I don't care.

They can always believe you and your science if they want to. Though you have just proven to be a liar.

And you might think about changing that avatar of yours, it doesn't represent you.

Quantrill
I’m surprised you believe in oxygen since it’s not in the Bible.
 
DukeU do you disagree with St. Paul.

1 Corinthian 11:23-29.

For I received from the Lord what I also handed on to you, that the Lord Jesus, on the night he was handed over, took bread and after he had given thanks, broke it and said, “This is my body that is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.”

In the same way also the cup, after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.” For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the death of the Lord until he comes.

Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord. A person should examine himself, and so eat the bread and drink the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself.
 
While they were eating, Jesus took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and giving it to his disciples said, “Take and eat; this is my body.”

DukeU do you disagree with St. Paul.

1 Corinthian 11:23-29.

For I received from the Lord what I also handed on to you, that the Lord Jesus, on the night he was handed over, took bread and after he had given thanks, broke it and said, “This is my body that is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.”

In the same way also the cup, after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.” For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the death of the Lord until he comes.

Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord. A person should examine himself, and so eat the bread and drink the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself.

Yes, I believe in and receive communion.

Curious though, these accounts are thousands of years old and passed down from generation to generation....I'm surprised you believe them?!?
 
Yes, I believe in and receive communion.

Curious though, these accounts are thousands of years old and passed down from generation to generation....I'm surprised you believe them?!?
The next time you receive communion, suffer with Christ and see what happens.

You are talking about the OT accounts like Genesis, right?
 
I'm talking about the Bible in general.
Each book, chapter, passage. etc, must be viewed on a case by case basis. There is no “one size fits all” way to interpret the passages. Context is important and so is literary type or style which include: historical, legal, prophetic, wisdom, poetry, epistles, gospels and apocalyptic.

Some passages use allegory and embellishment. Some don’t. The goal it to decipher the intent of the author’s descriptive portrayal of reality.

I have one simple rule. God isn’t a dick. God does not condone violence, cruelty or hate towards his creatures. So anytime you read a passage that seems like that is the case, search for what the main point of the account was. Many times it is historical and embellishments and moral messages only make it seem like God is condoning violence, cruelty and hatred. These accounts were written by men. Not God.
 
Each book, chapter, passage. etc, must be viewed on a case by case basis. There is no “one size fits all” way to interpret the passages. Context is important and so is literary type or style which include: historical, legal, prophetic, wisdom, poetry, epistles, gospels and apocalyptic.

Some passages use allegory and embellishment. Some don’t. The goal it to decipher the intent of the author’s descriptive portrayal of reality.

I have one simple rule. God isn’t a dick. God does not condone violence, cruelty or hate towards his creatures. So anytime you read a passage that seems like that is the case, search for what the main point of the account was. Many times it is historical and embellishments and moral messages only make it seem like God is condoning violence, cruelty and hatred. These accounts were written by men. Not God.

Each Book of the Bible is part of the whole of the One Book, the Bible.

God used man, inspired man, to write individual books of the Bible. But the Holy Spirit was using these men to write the One Book, the Bible. It has a beginning, and an end. (Genesis) to (Revelation).

Your rule of interpreting the Bible simply allows you to interpet your view of God upon the Bible. When you don't like what it says, you allegorize it into what you want it to say.

The whole Bible was inspired by God and is the Word of God.

Quantrill
 
Each Book of the Bible is part of the whole of the One Book, the Bible.

God used man, inspired man, to write individual books of the Bible. But the Holy Spirit was using these men to write the One Book, the Bible. It has a beginning, and an end. (Genesis) to (Revelation).

Your rule of interpreting the Bible simply allows you to interpet your view of God upon the Bible. When you don't like what it says, you allegorize it into what you want it to say.

The whole Bible was inspired by God and is the Word of God.

Quantrill
No. My rule uses logic so that all parts of the Bible are reconciled.
 
So is the CMB which is evidence of the universe popping into existence not being created by existing matter.

I didn't say the universe was created by existing matter. I said just the opposite.

Quantrill
 
I didn't say the universe was created by existing matter. I said just the opposite.

Quantrill
I didn’t say you did. I was telling you what the science shows. You know… like what science shows about oxygen.
 
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No. My rule uses logic so that all parts of the Bible are reconciled.

Too bad that God doesn't go by 'your logic'. Your attempt to 'reconcile' everything to your logic, makes the Bible no longer the Bible. It is just what you think God should say and do.

In other words it's bull.

Quantrill
 
Too bad that God doesn't go by 'your logic'. Your attempt to 'reconcile' everything to your logic, makes the Bible no longer the Bible. It is just what you think God should say and do.

In other words it's bull.

Quantrill
That’s exactly what I would expect a religious nut job would say.
 
I didn’t say you did. I was telling you what the science shows. You know… like what science shows about oxygen.

And I am telling you what the Bible says, and it doesn't say anything about the universe 'popping' into existence. Meaning your science is wrong.

Quantrill
 
And I am telling you what the Bible says, and it doesn't say anything about the universe 'popping' into existence. Meaning your science is wrong.

Quantrill
You read the Bible literally and even then you don’t get it right. There was no universe prior to God creating it. So popping into existence is what happened.
 
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