Zone1 The unconditional covenant God made with the Jews (AKA Israelites/Hebrews including converts, excluding Arabs)

[Lisa558]

No.

I meant exactly "Israelite".

As in The Torah/Tanach,...... The Descendants of Jacob, outside of the "Jews".

Yes, and most Jews today are. (There is some genetic variation because of conversions.)

You sure seem eager to “prove” that the Jews of Israel aren’t the real Jews. More of your siding with the Islamists who conquered Israel.

 

[Lisa558]

That's accurate.
It isn't necessarily derogatory, either.

And now you’re defending Truth Seeker? He’s trying to prove that Jews in Israel have no business being there.

I never heard any Jew referred to as a Talmudist.

 

[rosends]

No.

I meant exactly "Israelite".

As in The Torah/Tanach,...... The Descendants of Jacob, outside of the "Jews".

There is no Hebrew word for "Israelite".

You also wrote

The "Talmud/ Kabbalah" Oriented Political, & Religious Leaders, and those that Honor their Teachings/Mindset in the land of Yisrael , are not the "True Jews" of The Scriptures.

that is wrong.

You should ask questions instead of blurting out incorrect things.

 

[rosends]

That's accurate.
It isn't necessarily derogatory, either.

it is not accurate and it is offensive.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Yep, God didn't give the same blessings to Ishmael's line.
Palestinians are of Ishmael's lineage, not Isaac's.

Duke,.... Just like the First Exodus, and The Scriptures state that there will be a Second Exodus,..... "Gentiles" who Believe, will be Welcomed in to The Kingdom, as Sons and Daughters of The Most High.

 

[Lisa558]

it is not accurate and it is offensive.

The Duke has changed. I’ve noticed that happening with other posters: those who were formerly friends to Jews start becoming quite offensive to them.

Upthread, The Duke defended Sparky, who agreed with a bigtime antisemite that comparing Jews to dogs could be a valid parallel.

 

[Lisa558]

Carl, Scripturally, "Jews" are of the Tribe of "Yudah/Judah", &/or of the "House of Yudah/Judah"., and in that sense, they are a "Race".

As far as the "Religion",....., It is divided, like Man's other "Religions", in to at least Ten Sects/"Movements", with the largest "Movements" being "Talmud/Kabbalah" oriented.

That "Talmud/Kabbalah", as well as other "Rabbinic Writings", are not fully Scriptural, in fact,.... They could be called "Unclean".

To Jews, there is no division between being Jewish spiritually or religiously. A Jew is a Jew - and via two paths: one’s mother is Jewish, or one converts.

 

[SaxonJackson]

Will animal sacrifice resume after the Third Temple is restored?

Jesus Christ is the ultimate sacrifice. Animal sacrifice in the Old Testament was a shadow of things to come. They had meaning but they were temporary. It was a recurring ceremony. Jesus' sacrifice is a one time event and it's permanent. Nothing can improve upon His "laying down His life for His friends." He is the "Lamb of God" and gave His life for our sins once and for all time. Animal sacrifice from a Christian's perspective would be frivolous and insufficient.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Claimed it? They came in and CONQUERED IT, often by massacre, such as they’ve done throughout the Middle East and Northern Africa.

The Jews were in Israel for at least 1500 years before Mohammed attacked Jerusalem and began his rampage.

You have a problem with stating Facts, as well as Standing for the Truth Lisa.

Scripturally, .... YAHWEH, & His Name/Title, is Absolutely not "HaShem", commanded Yisrael, to Conquer the Canaanites. (Although, for some reason, Yisrael never did Fully Wipoe out the Canaanites).
And the Scriptures speak of some hideous acts carried out upon those who were defeated.

So Technically speaking,....... Yisraelites, were just as Barbaric, in Conquering "The Promised Land", as the Muslims were.

And I'm not stating that Islam has a claim to the "Promised Land", for it doesn't.

As far as "Problems"? .............. Look hard in a Mirror.

 

[Lisa558]

You have a problem with stating Facts, as well as Standing for the Truth Lisa.

Scripturally, .... YAHWEH, & His Name/Title, is Absolutely not "HaShem", commanded Yisrael, to Conquer the Canaanites. (Although, for some reason, Yisrael never did Fully Wipoe out the Canaanites).
And the Scriptures speak of some hideous acts carried out upon those who were defeated.

So Technically speaking,....... Yisraelites, were just as Barbaric, in Conquering "The Promised Land", as the Muslims were.

And I'm not stating that Islam has a claim to the "Promised Land", for it doesn't.

As far as "Problems"? .............. Look hard in a Mirror.

Oh lookie…..an antisemitic Christian is lecturing a Jew that “Yahway” (Jews don’t use that word) Isn’t HaShem.

I have no clue who this Yahway dude is.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

What the hell is a “Talmudist”? Is that your new word for “Jew”?

U R either truly Ignorant, about that which You proclaim to Stand for, or .....You are intentionally being Deceptive.

The "Talmud", & other "Rabbinic Works"..... Is the Written Down "Oral Law".

That "Oral Law" is what The Messiah disputed with the Levite Priests.

That "Oral Law", largely came about after the Babylonian Captivity of the "Jews",..... Of which, IF You Truly Had Studied The Scriptures, .... Then You would KNOW that Major Changes came about, as recorded in the Books, of Ezra, Nehemiah, and Esther.

The "Talmudists, are not of the same mold, as "The Sons of Zadok".

Nor, will zealous "Talmudists" enter The KIngdom of Heaven.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

There are efforts of antisemites (such as yourself) to deny that Jews today are the descendants of the Israelites

You create th boroblwm when you saya Sammy Davis Jr BECAME "Jewish" by converting to your religion.

I'm sorry, but if 5 million AFRICANS who practice Judaism were living in the Land of Israel , THEY WOULD BE IMPOSTORS

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Jesus Christ is the ultimate sacrifice. Animal sacrifice in the Old Testament was a shadow of things to come. They had meaning but they were temporary. It was a recurring ceremony. Jesus' sacrifice is a one time event and it's permanent. Nothing can improve upon His "laying down His life for His friends." He is the "Lamb of God" and gave His life for our sins once and for all time. Animal sacrifice from a Christian's perspective would be frivolous and insufficient.

Saxon,.... You need to read, at least, Ezekiel 40: & onward., as well as Zechariah 14:, at the least.

It's Mind Boggling, but,... There will be Sacrifices in the Kingdom of Heaven.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I have no clue who this Yahway dude is.

You're clueless about a lot of things