Zone1 The religion or spirituality of Adolf Hitler?

[DennisPTate]

If it is true that Adolf Hitler might have used the name "Odin" for "God" then this is quite interesting because I read information over these past three or four decades that could possibly connect "Odin" with "Zeus" of Greek fame and Zeus seems to be connected with "Azazel" of Leviticus chapter sixteen as well as The Book of Enoch?

I could be wrong....
I often am....
but if it is true that "Odin" = "Zeus" and if "Zeus" = "Azazel" then Leviticus chapter sixteen and chapter thirteen of the Book of Enoch may hint that perhaps Azazel will be the allegorical "General Abner" of the fallen angelic or fallen Watchers kingdom, who may well bring at least one, if not several, of the Purgatory or Hell Realms to Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, much as the Apostle Paul tried his best to bring the Roman Empire and even the Jewish people over to Messiah Yeshua - Jesus?

"Hitler's religion was a mixture of Paganism and spiritualism. If he had to name a God, it would be Odin" [BobNewhart]

The God Behind Hitler's National Socialism​

“And Aaron shall offer the bull as a sin offering for himself, and shall make atonement for himself and for his house. 7;Then he shall take the two goats, and set them before the Lord at the door of the tent of meeting; 8;and Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats, one lot for the Lord and the other lot for Aza′zel. 9;And Aaron shall present the goat on which the lot fell for the Lord, and offer it as a sin offering; 10;but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza′zel shall be presented alive before the Lord to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness to Aza′zel.

Bible Gateway passage: Leviticus 16 - Revised Standard Version

The Day of Atonement - The LORD spoke to Moses, after the death of the two sons of Aaron, when they drew near before the LORD and died; and the LORD said to Moses, “Tell Aaron your brother not to come at all times into the holy place within the veil, before the mercy seat which is upon the ark...

www.biblegateway.com

The fall of Azazel and 208 or so "Watchers" in The Book of Enoch fits with all of this somehow?

Chapter 1​

1The word of the blessing of Enoch, how he blessed the elect and the righteous, who were to exist in the time of trouble; rejecting all the wicked and ungodly. Enoch, a righteous man, who was (1) with God, answered and spoke, while his eyes were open, and while he saw a holy vision in the heavens. This the angels showed me.

(1) N.B. The italicized words supply a gap in the text.


2From them I heard all things, and understood what I saw; that which will not take place in this generation, but in a generation which is to succeed at a distant period, on account of the elect.


3Upon their account I spoke and conversed with him, who will go forth from his habitation, the Holy and Mighty One, the God of the world:


4Who will hereafter tread upon Mount Sinai; appear with his hosts; and be manifested in the strength of his power from heaven.


5All shall be afraid, and the Watchers be terrified.


6Great fear and trembling shall seize them, even to the ends of the earth. The lofty mountains shall be troubled, and the exalted hills depressed, melting like a honeycomb in the flame. The earth shall be immerged, and all things which are in it perish; while judgment shall come upon all, even upon all the righteous:


7But to them shall he give peace: he shall preserve the elect, and towards them exercise clemency.


8Then shall all belong to God; be happy and blessed; and the splendour of the Godhead shall illuminate them.

The Book of Enoch, Chapters 1-60

Books of Enoch

reluctant-messenger.com

Now you may wish to jump to chapters twelve and thirteen of The Book of Enoch.

 

[Churchill]

If it is true that Adolf Hitler might have used the name "Odin" for "God" then this is quite interesting because I read information over these past three or four decades that could possibly connect "Odin" with "Zeus" of Greek fame and Zeus seems to be connected with "Azazel" of Leviticus chapter sixteen as well as The Book of Enoch?

I could be wrong....
I often am....
but if it is true that "Odin" = "Zeus" and if "Zeus" = "Azazel" then Leviticus chapter sixteen and chapter thirteen of the Book of Enoch may hint that perhaps Azazel will be the allegorical "General Abner" of the fallen angelic or fallen Watchers kingdom, who may well bring at least one, if not several, of the Purgatory or Hell Realms to Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, much as the Apostle Paul tried his best to bring the Roman Empire and even the Jewish people over to Messiah Yeshua - Jesus?

The God Behind Hitler's National Socialism​

Germany was a Christian country when Hitler rose to power. 65% were Lutherans and 35% were Catholics, almost every person identified as Christian.

Antismeitism originated in Christian Europe and reached its Zenith under the Nazis, there's no way you can paint this as originating in some obscure Odin silliness.

 

[DennisPTate]

Germany was a Christian country when Hitler rose to power. 65% were Lutherans and 35% were Catholics, almost every person identified as Christian.

Antismeitism originated in Christian Europe and reached its Zenith under the Nazis, there's no way you can paint this as originating in some obscure Odin silliness.

You have made some very good points in your post. What do you think of the article that Protestant Reformer, [and former Roman Catholic priest or monk], Martin Luther wrote about the Jewish people back in 1543?

Do you think that Adolf Hitler got any ideas from Martin Luther of the Protestant Reformation?

Anti-Semitism: Martin Luther - "The Jews & Their Lies"​

(1543)
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At the beginning of his career, Martin Luther was apparently sympathetic to Jewish resistance to the Catholic Church. However, he expected the Jews to convert to his purified Christianity; when they did not, he turned violently against them.

Luther used violent and vulgar language throughout his career. While we do not expect religious figures to use this sort of language in the modern world, but it was not uncommon in the early 16th century.

The following are excerpts from Luther’s work entitled The Jews & their Lies.

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I had made up my mind to write no more either about the Jews or against them. But since I learned that these miserable and accursed people do not cease to lure to themselves even us, that is, the Christians, I have published this little book, so that I might be found among those who opposed such poisonous activities of the Jews who warned the Christians to be on their guard against them. I would not have believed that a Christian could be duped by the Jews into taking their exile and wretchedness upon himself. However, the devil is the god of the world, and wherever God’s word is absent he has an easy task, not only with the weak but also with the strong. May God help us. Amen.

Anti-Semitism: Martin Luther - "The Jews & Their Lies"

Statements critical of Jews that appear in Martin Luther's The Jews & their Lies.

jewishvirtuallibrary.org

And now to begin to make the possible connection between Zeus with Azazel?

Leda and the Swan is a Greek mythological tale where Zeus disguises himself as a swan to seduce or rape the Spartan queen Leda. She subsequently lays eggs, hatching children including Helen of Troy and Pollux, often linked to the Trojan War. It is a popular, often violent, theme in art and literature, notably in W.B. Yeats' poem.
Wikipedia +4
This video provides an animated retelling of the myth of Leda and the Swan:

The Spartans by the way may be associated with the ancient Lost Tribe of Israel known as Dan?

Some Characteristics of Dan
Tribal Identifications: Dan part 2​

Adapted from "Lost Israelite Identity" (1996)
by Yair Davidiy

A Few Notes on
THE TRIBE OF DAN

Tribal Identification - Dan by Yair Davidiy

 

[Stryder50]

The Nazi organization, Nationalist Socialist German Workers Party -NSDAP, was based in part on linkages to older German pagan mythology. Which is loosely similar to other Nordic mythology. Hints of such show up in some of the symbols/sigils used as well as the rituals,especially with the SS. Hitler as a member of the NSDAP would also have been influenced in similar way, and then some.

There is bit controversy as to how to classify Hitler's religion/spiritual belief and one thread is that he was involved with Satanism in one form or another.There is a range of articles and books published along this theme, alas the tend to contradict each other and produce a muddle of sorts.

Secular minds, especially those that reject religion(s) and spiritualism, will claim this is all blarney and Hitler's power and influence can be explained by secular theories of sociology.

Less "secular only" minds see some form of Occultism, paganism, and/or Satanism as being what could be considered a "religion" to Hitler and his close associates. Some researchers claim that Hitler was strongly influenced by a few founders/inner circle of what would become Nazism, who were themselves into occultism, and hence Hitler was often "taken over" by some evil/satanic spirit.

There are some available sources on this, but with the variations and contradicts between them, the real path is left to the researcher to pick from. I'll provide a few of the more common;

Occultism in Nazism​

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The association of Nazism with occultism occurs in a wide range of theories, speculation, and research into the origins of Nazism and into Nazism's possible relationship with various occult traditions. Such ideas have flourished as a part of popular culture since at least the early 1940s (during World War II), and gained renewed popularity starting in the 1960s.
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In Goodrick-Clarke's view, the Ariosophist movement built on the earlier ideas of the Völkisch movement, a traditionalist, pan-German response to industrialization and urbanization, but it associated the problems of modernism specifically with the supposed misdeeds of Freemasonry, Kabbalah, and Rosicrucianism in order to "prove the modern world was based on false and evil principles". The Ariosophist "ideas and symbols filtered through to several anti-semitic and Nationalist groups in late Wilhelmian Germany, from which the early Nazi Party emerged in Munich after the First World War." He demonstrated links between two Ariosophists and Heinrich Himmler.
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The first allusions that Hitler was directed by occult forces which were taken up by the later authors came from French Christian esotericist René Kopp. In two articles published in the monthly esoteric journal Le Chariot from June 1934 and April 1939, he seeks to trace the source of Hitler's power to supernatural forces. The second article was titled: "L'Enigme du Hitler". In other French esoteric journals of the 1930s, Hakl could not find similar hints. In 1939 another French author, Edouard Saby, published a book: Hitler et les Forces Occultes. Saby already mentions Hanussen and Ignaz Trebitsch-Lincoln. Hakl suggests that Edouard Saby would have the copyright on the myth of Nazi occultism.

However, another significant book from 1939 is better known: Hermann Rauschning's Hitler Speaks. There it is said (in the chapter "Black and White Magic"), that "Hitler surrendered himself to forces that carried him away. … He turned himself over to a spell, which can, with good reason and not simply in a figurative analogy, be described as demonic magic." The chapter "Hitler in private" is even more dramatic, and was left out in the German edition from 1940.
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Occultism in Nazism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I'll break here to present another source/link or few in next post.

 

[Stryder50]

Other sources;
The Occult Roots of Nazism: The Ariosophists of Austria and Germany, 1890–1935, later published under the title The Occult Roots of Nazism: Secret Aryan Cults and Their Influence on Nazi Ideology, is a book about Ariosophy and Nazi occultism by historian Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke, who traces some of its roots back to esotericism in Germany and Austria between 1880 and 1945. The foreword is by Rohan Butler, who had written The Roots of National Socialism in the 1930s. The book is based on Goodrick-Clarke's 1982 Ph.D. thesis.
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The Occult Roots of Nazism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Hitler and the Occult is a book about Nazi occultism by Ken Anderson. It was published by Prometheus Books in 1995. It focuses on the relationship between the worlds of Nazism and occultism and to what extent it actually existed; the author Anderson, a freelance journalist and researcher, took a skeptical view of the idea that it was a major influence on Nazism. There is a particular focus on debunking the claims of Trevor Ravenscroft in his 1972 book The Spear of Destiny. The book received mostly positive reviews.
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Hitler and the Occult - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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The Spear of Destiny (book) - Wikipedia​

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The Spear of Destiny: The Occult Power Behind the Spear which Pierced the Side of Christ is a 1972 occult book by the writer Trevor Ravenscroft about the Holy Lance and occultism in Nazism, published by Neville Spearman Publishers. The book is heavily based on alleged testimony from Walter Stein; Ravenscroft originally claimed to have met Stein in life, but later claimed he had met Stein as a spirit through a medium. It is unclear if Ravenscroft had ever actually met Stein. In 1979 Ravenscroft sued James Herbert for copyright infringement in Herbert's 1978 novel The Spear.

Reviewers generally found the book bizarre and its claims far-fetched; historian of occultism Joscelyn Godwin called The Spear of Destiny a "bloodcurdling work of historical reinvention". The Los Angeles Times described it as "one of the weirdest books of the year". Despite its factual inaccuracy, the book was a commercial success, was translated into several languages, and is, according to British historian Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke, one of the most influential works on Nazi mysticism in English.
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The Spear of Destiny (book) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[DennisPTate]

Other sources;
The Occult Roots of Nazism: The Ariosophists of Austria and Germany, 1890–1935, later published under the title The Occult Roots of Nazism: Secret Aryan Cults and Their Influence on Nazi Ideology, is a book about Ariosophy and Nazi occultism by historian Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke, who traces some of its roots back to esotericism in Germany and Austria between 1880 and 1945. The foreword is by Rohan Butler, who had written The Roots of National Socialism in the 1930s. The book is based on Goodrick-Clarke's 1982 Ph.D. thesis.
...

The Occult Roots of Nazism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Hitler and the Occult is a book about Nazi occultism by Ken Anderson. It was published by Prometheus Books in 1995. It focuses on the relationship between the worlds of Nazism and occultism and to what extent it actually existed; the author Anderson, a freelance journalist and researcher, took a skeptical view of the idea that it was a major influence on Nazism. There is a particular focus on debunking the claims of Trevor Ravenscroft in his 1972 book The Spear of Destiny. The book received mostly positive reviews.
...

Hitler and the Occult - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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The Spear of Destiny (book) - Wikipedia​

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The Spear of Destiny: The Occult Power Behind the Spear which Pierced the Side of Christ is a 1972 occult book by the writer Trevor Ravenscroft about the Holy Lance and occultism in Nazism, published by Neville Spearman Publishers. The book is heavily based on alleged testimony from Walter Stein; Ravenscroft originally claimed to have met Stein in life, but later claimed he had met Stein as a spirit through a medium. It is unclear if Ravenscroft had ever actually met Stein. In 1979 Ravenscroft sued James Herbert for copyright infringement in Herbert's 1978 novel The Spear.

Reviewers generally found the book bizarre and its claims far-fetched; historian of occultism Joscelyn Godwin called The Spear of Destiny a "bloodcurdling work of historical reinvention". The Los Angeles Times described it as "one of the weirdest books of the year". Despite its factual inaccuracy, the book was a commercial success, was translated into several languages, and is, according to British historian Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke, one of the most influential works on Nazi mysticism in English.
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The Spear of Destiny (book) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Do you believe that President Dwight Eisenhower might have been a little worried that the religion or spirituality of the fifteen hundred or more German scientists of "Operation Paperclip" might eventually go hyper competitive, [WOLF LIKE], against the generally "sheeplike" Christians of the USA?

Zone1 Thread 'Was the President Eisenhower "Military Industrial Complex" speech the best speech ever?'

Feb 15, 2026

The thought has often crossed my mind that perhaps the President Eisenhower "Military Industrial Complex" speech was one of the most important and best speeches ever done?

I believe that President Eisenhower risked his life by giving that speech. He also set the stage for what I believe will be revealed over the next ten years. 2026 to 2036 are going to be astonishing on a level where the human mind will be boggled, [at least that is what I am expecting based on the rumours that I have been hearing and reading for the last decade and more]?

In his 1961 farewell address, President...

• DennisPTate
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Operation Paperclip:

Operation Paperclip was a secret United States intelligence program in which more than 1,600 German scientists, engineers, and technicians were taken from former Nazi Germany to the US for government employment after the end of World War II in Europe, between 1945 and 1959; several were confirmed to be former members of the Nazi Party, including the SS or the SA.

The effort began in earnest in 1945, as the Allies advanced into Germany and discovered a wealth of scientific talent and advanced research that had contributed to Germany's wartime technological advancements. The US Joint Chiefs of Staff officially established Operation Overcast (operations "Overcast" and "Paperclip" were related, and the terms are often used interchangeably) on July 20, 1945, with the dual aims of leveraging German expertise for the ongoing war effort against Japan and to bolster US postwar military research. The operation, conducted by the Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency (JIOA), was largely actioned by special agents of the US Army's Counterintelligence Corps (CIC). Many selected scientists were involved in the Nazi rocket program, aviation, or chemical/biological warfare. The Soviet Union in the following year conducted a similar program, called Operation Osoaviakhim, that emphasized many of the same fields of research.

 

[luiza]

If it is true that Adolf Hitler might have used the name "Odin" for "God" then this is quite interesting because I read information over these past three or four decades that could possibly connect "Odin" with "Zeus" of Greek fame and Zeus seems to be connected with "Azazel" of Leviticus chapter sixteen as well as The Book of Enoch?

I could be wrong....
I often am....
but if it is true that "Odin" = "Zeus" and if "Zeus" = "Azazel" then Leviticus chapter sixteen and chapter thirteen of the Book of Enoch may hint that perhaps Azazel will be the allegorical "General Abner" of the fallen angelic or fallen Watchers kingdom, who may well bring at least one, if not several, of the Purgatory or Hell Realms to Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, much as the Apostle Paul tried his best to bring the Roman Empire and even the Jewish people over to Messiah Yeshua - Jesus?

The God Behind Hitler's National Socialism​

The fall of Azazel and 208 or so "Watchers" in The Book of Enoch fits with all of this somehow?






Now you may wish to jump to chapters twelve and thirteen of The Book of Enoch.

In the way that America was visited by Valiant Thor , was Germany visited either from the 1930s UFO crash or via entities channeled by the Thule Society .
Technologically something unbelievable happened in Germany pre WW2,
As it did in the US after Eisenhower visited with Aliens on three occasions .

The evidence is compelling though officially ridiculed for obvious reasons .

 

[DennisPTate]

In the way that America was visited by Valiant Thor , was Germany visited either from the 1930s UFO crash or via entities channeled by the Thule Society .
Technologically something unbelievable happened in Germany pre WW2,
As it did in the US after Eisenhower visited with Aliens on three occasions .

The evidence is compelling though officially ridiculed for obvious reasons .

Wow!

I had heard that President Einsenhower was one of the four USA Presidents who knew pretty much everything about the alien races but I did not know until now that he may even have met some of them!

Wow!!!!

Zone1 Thread 'Is a massive dump of information on the UFO phenomena coming out?'

Nov 7, 2025

I am hopeful that the following lecture that has a bit of a "Congressional Hearing" flavour about it is the beginning of a massive dump of information about the UFO phenomena?

This lecture may be useful to many of us who have friends who will tend to reject information unless it is shown to fit with the Bible.

Near death experiencer Kevin L. Zadai Th. D. does a great job of giving us all the names of UFO experts who have done their very best to put the truth out there to all of us.



New Revelation on the Coming Alien Disclosure—Don’t Fall for It!

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As of 2017... I think that there are now FIVE USA Presidents who know or knew a lot about the secret underground technology that the USA Military and Industrial Complex already has developed.

 

[luiza]

Wow!

I had heard that President Einsenhower was one of the four USA Presidents who knew pretty much everything about the alien races but I did not know until now that he may even have met some of them!

Wow!!!!

From memory his diary had him recorded as visiting the Dentist . !!!
It seems that he let power move to what has become the contractors who make up the Breakaway Civilisation and he effectively admitted his terrible blunder in his end of Presidency farewell speech .
Since then Government has lost control with Gay Boy Kennedy killed for attacking the CIA and the Breakaways in this very area .

The latest interesting figure is Trumpfy who learned a great deal about these above Top Secret matters from his Uncle John who was closely involved with Tesla's work after his death .
Whether he has the strength to give further Disclosure remains to be seen .
Clif High's data sets suggest he has , though we will not get full Disclosure for obvious reasons .

 

[Muhammed]

If it is true that Adolf Hitler might have used the name "Odin" for "God" then this is quite interesting because I read information over these past three or four decades that could possibly connect "Odin" with "Zeus" of Greek fame and Zeus seems to be connected with "Azazel" of Leviticus chapter sixteen as well as The Book of Enoch?

I could be wrong....
I often am....
but if it is true that "Odin" = "Zeus" and if "Zeus" = "Azazel" then Leviticus chapter sixteen and chapter thirteen of the Book of Enoch may hint that perhaps Azazel will be the allegorical "General Abner" of the fallen angelic or fallen Watchers kingdom, who may well bring at least one, if not several, of the Purgatory or Hell Realms to Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, much as the Apostle Paul tried his best to bring the Roman Empire and even the Jewish people over to Messiah Yeshua - Jesus?

The God Behind Hitler's National Socialism​

The fall of Azazel and 208 or so "Watchers" in The Book of Enoch fits with all of this somehow?






Now you may wish to jump to chapters twelve and thirteen of The Book of Enoch.

Seems to me that it was Himmler that was into Odinism. Not Hitler, really.

Odin = Woden = Woden's day = Wednesday.
Odin's son = Thor = Thor's day = Thursday.
Odin's wife = Frigg = Frigg's day = Friday.

 

[Kruska]

If it is true that Adolf Hitler might have used the name "Odin" for "God" then this is quite interesting because I read information over these past three or four decades that could possibly connect "Odin" with "Zeus" of Greek fame and Zeus seems to be connected with "Azazel" of Leviticus chapter sixteen as well as The Book of Enoch?

I could be wrong....
I often am....
but if it is true that "Odin" = "Zeus" and if "Zeus" = "Azazel" then Leviticus chapter sixteen and chapter thirteen of the Book of Enoch may hint that perhaps Azazel will be the allegorical "General Abner" of the fallen angelic or fallen Watchers kingdom, who may well bring at least one, if not several, of the Purgatory or Hell Realms to Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, much as the Apostle Paul tried his best to bring the Roman Empire and even the Jewish people over to Messiah Yeshua - Jesus?

The God Behind Hitler's National Socialism​

The fall of Azazel and 208 or so "Watchers" in The Book of Enoch fits with all of this somehow?






Now you may wish to jump to chapters twelve and thirteen of The Book of Enoch.

If at all - Hitler would have referred to him as Wotan (Germanic) and not Odin (Scandinavian)

Germanic warriors who devoted their life to Wotan were termed Wolfsgänger (Wolf follower)- so nutty Hitler loved it when people referred to him as Uncle Wolf - AdWolf . The Scandinavians aka Vikings referred to Wolfsgänger as Berserker.
However Adolf is also a version of the old German name "Adal"wolf - meaning "noble" wolf.

I have not come across any "reputable" source that would have mentioned or indicated that Hitler was into worshiping Wotan or Odin, he was into a racial genetic Germanic dogma, not it's Gods.

The person who was devoted to this was Himmler. And it is known that Hitler used to joke about Himmler's abstruse Germanic & Scandinavian worshiping rites and fantasies.

 

[Stryder50]

Do you believe that President Dwight Eisenhower might have been a little worried that the religion or spirituality of the fifteen hundred or more German scientists of "Operation Paperclip" might eventually go hyper competitive, [WOLF LIKE], against the generally "sheeplike" Christians of the USA?

Zone1 Thread 'Was the President Eisenhower "Military Industrial Complex" speech the best speech ever?'

Feb 15, 2026

The thought has often crossed my mind that perhaps the President Eisenhower "Military Industrial Complex" speech was one of the most important and best speeches ever done?

I believe that President Eisenhower risked his life by giving that speech. He also set the stage for what I believe will be revealed over the next ten years. 2026 to 2036 are going to be astonishing on a level where the human mind will be boggled, [at least that is what I am expecting based on the rumours that I have been hearing and reading for the last decade and more]?

In his 1961 farewell address, President...

• DennisPTate
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I don't know enough about Eisenhower to comment if he had those worries or not. One thing to keep in mind is that many in Germany, and among those brought here during Paperclip, were realist aware that working in labs and production of "wonder" weapons, R&D, etc. was better than being cannon fodder on the Russian Front.

Many of the concentration camps were located next to factories and production facilities as the Nazis used slave labor to crank out the weapons and materials for their war effort. This freed more German men (and some other nationals from occupied lands) to serve in the armed forces. Ironically the German mindset wasn't too keen on placing many women into the workforce, no 'Fraulein riveter'.

From about the midpoint (hindsight) of the war onward, Germany produced some rather advanced weapons that were used in combat and had quite the catalog of others that might have been, had they stayed in the war longer.

The Allies were increasingly aware of this and by the time of the Normandy Landings (the D-Day), both the UK and USA had special units following the leading troops as they liberated Nazi German factories and laboratories scooping up documents, equipment, newer tech weapons, and most of the scientists and techs involved in such. USSR/Russia it seems was doing the same thing.

As the war ended in Europe, Germany defeated, much of this collected bounty was shipped back to homelands. UK and USA were a mix of competing with each other and then later sharing most of what they found. Many special weapons R&D and production was in Eastern Europe where it was out of range for RAF and USAAF strategic bombers. Hence Russia got a good haul, more than would have been expected.

When Sputnik first launched into orbit, the 'joke' among NASA and the West's rocket/missile programs was; "Guess the Russian's " "German rocket scientists are better than our German rocket scientists".

There are numorous books and articles on this topic, and one fairly recent, which is very fascinating, since it hints at some aspects of the UFO phenomena, is Nick Cook's :

The Hunt for Zero Point: Inside the Classified World of Antigravity Technology​

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This riveting work of investigative reporting and history exposes classified government projects to build gravity-defying aircraft--which have an uncanny resemblance to flying saucers.

The atomic bomb was not the only project to occupy government scientists in the 1940s. Antigravity technology, originally spearheaded by scientists in Nazi Germany, was another high priority, one that still may be in effect today. Now for the first time, a reporter with an unprecedented access to key sources in the intelligence and military communities reveals suppressed evidence that tells the story of a quest for a discovery that could prove as powerful as the A-bomb.

The Hunt for Zero Point explores the scientific speculation that a "zero point" of gravity exists in the universe and can be replicated here on Earth. The pressure to be the first nation to harness gravity is immense, as it means having the ability to build military planes of unlimited speed and range, along with the most deadly weaponry the world has ever seen. The ideal shape for a gravity-defying vehicle happens to be a perfect disk, making antigravity tests a possible explanation for the numerous UFO sightings of the past 50 years.

Chronicling the origins of antigravity research in the world's most advanced research facility, which was operated by the Third Reich during World War II, The Hunt for Zero Point traces U.S. involvement in the project, beginning with the recruitment of former Nazi scientists after the war. Drawn from interviews with those involved with the research and who visited labs in Europe and the United States, The Hunt for Zero Point journeys to the heart of the twentieth century's most puzzling unexplained phenomena. This riveting work of investigative reporting and history exposes classified government projects to build gravity-defying aircraft--which have an uncanny resemblance to flying saucers.

Amazon.com

By NICK COOK​

The Hunt For Zero Point​

In 1956, a group of highly respected aerospace engineers revealed that US scientists were perfecting ways to control gravity. They predicted a breakthrough would come by the end of the decade, ushering in an era of limitless, clean propulsion for a new breed of fuelless transport systems – and weapons beyond our imagination. Of course it never happened. Or did it?

Forty years later a chance encounter with one of the engineers who made that prediction forces a highly sceptical aerospace and defence journalist, Nick Cook, to consider the possibility that America did indeed crack the gravity code – and has covered up ever since. His investigations moved from the corridors of NASA to the dark heartland of America’s classified weapons establishment, where it became clear that half a century earlier, in the dying days of the Third Reich, Nazi scientists were racing to perfect a Pandora’s Box of high technology that would deliver Germany from defeat. History says that they failed.

But the trail that takes Cook deep into the once-impenetrable empire of SS General Hans Kammler – the man charged by Adolf Hitler with perfecting German secret weapons technology – says otherwise. In his pursuit of the true facts behind Kammler, Cook finally establishes the truth: America is determined to hang onto its secrets, but the stakes are enormous and others are now in the race to acquire a suppressed technology.
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Nick Cook - Author | Hunt for Zero Point | Published by Arrow Books

Nick Cook, author of Hunt for Zero Point – investigating avaition's greatest mystery – is the writer of 20 fiction and non-fiction titles.

www.nickcook.works

 

[DennisPTate]

I don't know enough about Eisenhower to comment if he had those worries or not. One thing to keep in mind is that many in Germany, and among those brought here during Paperclip, were realist aware that working in labs and production of "wonder" weapons, R&D, etc. was better than being cannon fodder on the Russian Front.

Many of the concentration camps were located next to factories and production facilities as the Nazis used slave labor to crank out the weapons and materials for their war effort. This freed more German men (and some other nationals from occupied lands) to serve in the armed forces. Ironically the German mindset wasn't too keen on placing many women into the workforce, no 'Fraulein riveter'.

From about the midpoint (hindsight) of the war onward, Germany produced some rather advanced weapons that were used in combat and had quite the catalog of others that might have been, had they stayed in the war longer.

The Allies were increasingly aware of this and by the time of the Normandy Landings (the D-Day), both the UK and USA had special units following the leading troops as they liberated Nazi German factories and laboratories scooping up documents, equipment, newer tech weapons, and most of the scientists and techs involved in such. USSR/Russia it seems was doing the same thing.

As the war ended in Europe, Germany defeated, much of this collected bounty was shipped back to homelands. UK and USA were a mix of competing with each other and then later sharing most of what they found. Many special weapons R&D and production was in Eastern Europe where it was out of range for RAF and USAAF strategic bombers. Hence Russia got a good haul, more than would have been expected.

When Sputnik first launched into orbit, the 'joke' among NASA and the West's rocket/missile programs was; "Guess the Russian's " "German rocket scientists are better than our German rocket scientists".

There are numorous books and articles on this topic, and one fairly recent, which is very fascinating, since it hints at some aspects of the UFO phenomena, is Nick Cook's :

The Hunt for Zero Point: Inside the Classified World of Antigravity Technology​

...

This riveting work of investigative reporting and history exposes classified government projects to build gravity-defying aircraft--which have an uncanny resemblance to flying saucers.

The atomic bomb was not the only project to occupy government scientists in the 1940s. Antigravity technology, originally spearheaded by scientists in Nazi Germany, was another high priority, one that still may be in effect today. Now for the first time, a reporter with an unprecedented access to key sources in the intelligence and military communities reveals suppressed evidence that tells the story of a quest for a discovery that could prove as powerful as the A-bomb.

The Hunt for Zero Point explores the scientific speculation that a "zero point" of gravity exists in the universe and can be replicated here on Earth. The pressure to be the first nation to harness gravity is immense, as it means having the ability to build military planes of unlimited speed and range, along with the most deadly weaponry the world has ever seen. The ideal shape for a gravity-defying vehicle happens to be a perfect disk, making antigravity tests a possible explanation for the numerous UFO sightings of the past 50 years.

Chronicling the origins of antigravity research in the world's most advanced research facility, which was operated by the Third Reich during World War II, The Hunt for Zero Point traces U.S. involvement in the project, beginning with the recruitment of former Nazi scientists after the war. Drawn from interviews with those involved with the research and who visited labs in Europe and the United States, The Hunt for Zero Point journeys to the heart of the twentieth century's most puzzling unexplained phenomena. This riveting work of investigative reporting and history exposes classified government projects to build gravity-defying aircraft--which have an uncanny resemblance to flying saucers.

Amazon.com

By NICK COOK​

The Hunt For Zero Point​

In 1956, a group of highly respected aerospace engineers revealed that US scientists were perfecting ways to control gravity. They predicted a breakthrough would come by the end of the decade, ushering in an era of limitless, clean propulsion for a new breed of fuelless transport systems – and weapons beyond our imagination. Of course it never happened. Or did it?

Forty years later a chance encounter with one of the engineers who made that prediction forces a highly sceptical aerospace and defence journalist, Nick Cook, to consider the possibility that America did indeed crack the gravity code – and has covered up ever since. His investigations moved from the corridors of NASA to the dark heartland of America’s classified weapons establishment, where it became clear that half a century earlier, in the dying days of the Third Reich, Nazi scientists were racing to perfect a Pandora’s Box of high technology that would deliver Germany from defeat. History says that they failed.

But the trail that takes Cook deep into the once-impenetrable empire of SS General Hans Kammler – the man charged by Adolf Hitler with perfecting German secret weapons technology – says otherwise. In his pursuit of the true facts behind Kammler, Cook finally establishes the truth: America is determined to hang onto its secrets, but the stakes are enormous and others are now in the race to acquire a suppressed technology.
...

Nick Cook - Author | Hunt for Zero Point | Published by Arrow Books

Nick Cook, author of Hunt for Zero Point – investigating avaition's greatest mystery – is the writer of 20 fiction and non-fiction titles.

www.nickcook.works

Wow!!!!!

Your reply is brilliant!

Some related information seems to be coming out that the CIA recruited Latter day Saints who had learned a second or third language. I suspect that LDS Elders from some of the branches of the Mormon church who practiced polygamy were very useful in the CIA attempts to infiltrate and manipulate certain Muslim organizations.

 

[luiza]

For me the Investigative King in this area is an American , albeit with an Oxford education in his CV !
Dr Joseph P Farrell .

Also a committed Roman Catholic from memory .

Read his book
Nazi International --- the post war plan to control Finance Conflict , Physics and Space .
Very detailed and scholarly .
This will lead you to his other books-- a very clever man who seems to be good pals with Catherine Austin Fitts another remarkable investigative figure .

 

[DennisPTate]

In the way that America was visited by Valiant Thor , was Germany visited either from the 1930s UFO crash or via entities channeled by the Thule Society .
Technologically something unbelievable happened in Germany pre WW2,
As it did in the US after Eisenhower visited with Aliens on three occasions .

The evidence is compelling though officially ridiculed for obvious reasons .

All of this fits perfectly with what was reported by FBI twenty five year veteran John De Souza. Some of his cases became the first season of "The X-Files."




John DeSouza 25 year veteran of the FBI John DeSouza is exposing the truth of the UAP invasion
and.....





John DeSouza Exposes the Truth of the UFO Invasion (One Year Later) - Redacted (Video)[

The Extra-Dimensionals: True Tales And Concepts of Alien Visitors Kindle Edition
by John DeSouza (Author)

Extra-Dimensionality is the key to understanding everything…
By everything, we mean all the areas in which we have been deceived to believe the physical world is the beginning and end of all things. “The Extra-Dimensionals” is the stark revelation of where Alien Visitors are actually coming from and to where they are returning. Understanding Extra-Dimensionality is the way to unfold the truth of the paranormal, the spiritual and even the physical world. These Visitors have been with us since time immemorial and their messages to us are everywhere around us. The truth will eventually explode into our field of vision. If we refuse to listen then we are only delaying the inevitable to a time when an alarm will be sounded that is so loud that it will consume everything upon the Earth. Once the black swans arrive, once we awaken to numerous mile long shadows cast by these ancient ships—hanging over our major cities, soundless, motionless, maddening; it will be too late.

It is in these final moments that we can still, with open minds and clear hearts, decipher that which has been intentionally hidden from humanity for so long—the truth of Extra-Dimensionality. That comprehension will, in turn, illuminate every hidden truth of our material existence. Then, we will find that for the first time, we will finally have the key to understanding everything.

 

[luiza]

And I should have added Daniel Liszt known as Dark Journalist -- also professionally close to Joseph and Catherine .
His body of work is superlative and it amazes me how much he flies under the popular radar.
Another very scholarly investigator who is also an engaging presenter .
His X series is jaw dropping in terms of detail and continuity .

All three of these are way beyond Muncher /Sheeple capability .
However ,despite that , several old timers here are going to have their brains shattered over the next few months and for about the next two years ( and millions outside ), as various Disclosures are made.
A literally new era is wide open if current impetus can be maintained .

 

[DennisPTate]

And I should have added Daniel Liszt known as Dark Journalist -- also professionally close to Joseph and Catherine .
His body of work is superlative and it amazes me how much he flies under the popular radar.
Another very scholarly investigator who is also an engaging presenter .
His X series is jaw dropping in terms of detail and continuity .

All three of these are way beyond Muncher /Sheeple capability .
However ,despite that , several old timers here are going to have their brains shattered over the next few months and for about the next two years ( and millions outside ), as various Disclosures are made.
A literally new era is wide open if current impetus can be maintained .

For all of his many flaws and
lack of "diplomacy" President Trump
wants to dump the truth out there on this
and on many important topics. Many
within his administration are risking their lives to
assist him to accomplish this.

 

[DennisPTate]

I don't know enough about Eisenhower to comment if he had those worries or not. One thing to keep in mind is that many in Germany, and among those brought here during Paperclip, were realist aware that working in labs and production of "wonder" weapons, R&D, etc. was better than being cannon fodder on the Russian Front.

Many of the concentration camps were located next to factories and production facilities as the Nazis used slave labor to crank out the weapons and materials for their war effort. This freed more German men (and some other nationals from occupied lands) to serve in the armed forces. Ironically the German mindset wasn't too keen on placing many women into the workforce, no 'Fraulein riveter'.

From about the midpoint (hindsight) of the war onward, Germany produced some rather advanced weapons that were used in combat and had quite the catalog of others that might have been, had they stayed in the war longer.

The Allies were increasingly aware of this and by the time of the Normandy Landings (the D-Day), both the UK and USA had special units following the leading troops as they liberated Nazi German factories and laboratories scooping up documents, equipment, newer tech weapons, and most of the scientists and techs involved in such. USSR/Russia it seems was doing the same thing.

As the war ended in Europe, Germany defeated, much of this collected bounty was shipped back to homelands. UK and USA were a mix of competing with each other and then later sharing most of what they found. Many special weapons R&D and production was in Eastern Europe where it was out of range for RAF and USAAF strategic bombers. Hence Russia got a good haul, more than would have been expected.

When Sputnik first launched into orbit, the 'joke' among NASA and the West's rocket/missile programs was; "Guess the Russian's " "German rocket scientists are better than our German rocket scientists".

There are numorous books and articles on this topic, and one fairly recent, which is very fascinating, since it hints at some aspects of the UFO phenomena, is Nick Cook's :

The Hunt for Zero Point: Inside the Classified World of Antigravity Technology​

...

This riveting work of investigative reporting and history exposes classified government projects to build gravity-defying aircraft--which have an uncanny resemblance to flying saucers.

The atomic bomb was not the only project to occupy government scientists in the 1940s. Antigravity technology, originally spearheaded by scientists in Nazi Germany, was another high priority, one that still may be in effect today. Now for the first time, a reporter with an unprecedented access to key sources in the intelligence and military communities reveals suppressed evidence that tells the story of a quest for a discovery that could prove as powerful as the A-bomb.

The Hunt for Zero Point explores the scientific speculation that a "zero point" of gravity exists in the universe and can be replicated here on Earth. The pressure to be the first nation to harness gravity is immense, as it means having the ability to build military planes of unlimited speed and range, along with the most deadly weaponry the world has ever seen. The ideal shape for a gravity-defying vehicle happens to be a perfect disk, making antigravity tests a possible explanation for the numerous UFO sightings of the past 50 years.

Chronicling the origins of antigravity research in the world's most advanced research facility, which was operated by the Third Reich during World War II, The Hunt for Zero Point traces U.S. involvement in the project, beginning with the recruitment of former Nazi scientists after the war. Drawn from interviews with those involved with the research and who visited labs in Europe and the United States, The Hunt for Zero Point journeys to the heart of the twentieth century's most puzzling unexplained phenomena. This riveting work of investigative reporting and history exposes classified government projects to build gravity-defying aircraft--which have an uncanny resemblance to flying saucers.

Amazon.com

By NICK COOK​

The Hunt For Zero Point​

In 1956, a group of highly respected aerospace engineers revealed that US scientists were perfecting ways to control gravity. They predicted a breakthrough would come by the end of the decade, ushering in an era of limitless, clean propulsion for a new breed of fuelless transport systems – and weapons beyond our imagination. Of course it never happened. Or did it?

Forty years later a chance encounter with one of the engineers who made that prediction forces a highly sceptical aerospace and defence journalist, Nick Cook, to consider the possibility that America did indeed crack the gravity code – and has covered up ever since. His investigations moved from the corridors of NASA to the dark heartland of America’s classified weapons establishment, where it became clear that half a century earlier, in the dying days of the Third Reich, Nazi scientists were racing to perfect a Pandora’s Box of high technology that would deliver Germany from defeat. History says that they failed.

But the trail that takes Cook deep into the once-impenetrable empire of SS General Hans Kammler – the man charged by Adolf Hitler with perfecting German secret weapons technology – says otherwise. In his pursuit of the true facts behind Kammler, Cook finally establishes the truth: America is determined to hang onto its secrets, but the stakes are enormous and others are now in the race to acquire a suppressed technology.
...

Nick Cook - Author | Hunt for Zero Point | Published by Arrow Books

Nick Cook, author of Hunt for Zero Point – investigating avaition's greatest mystery – is the writer of 20 fiction and non-fiction titles.

www.nickcook.works

There was a claim that the Stanley Meyer hydrogen fuel dune buggy violated one of the Laws of Thermodynamics but if water could somehow tap into Zero Point Energy then there was no conflict with the larger picture at all.

The Dr. Masaru Emoto research does indicate that water may well be tapping into Zero Point Energy somehow.

 

[luiza]

For all of his many flaws and
lack of "diplomacy" President Trump
wants to dump the truth out there on this
and on many important topics. Many
within his administration are risking their lives to
assist him to accomplish this.

Because I believe Trumpfy is Deep State , I feel sure he would never be allowed to admit to more than , say , 75% of full truth.

Aside -- look at this absurd Fake Artemis Psy Op .

I have been persuaded that Change with a huge capital C will only come from a popular uprising of disgust and then hate .

This would come from detail
Knowledge of Sex /People / Kiddy / Experiment/ Trafficking plus Drugs organisation --- blackmail corruption .

To an extent Ukraine /Iran/Artemis etc are side shows. Deflections away from the one area that would allow the Munchers and Sheeple to successfully rise and revolt .

My deeply felt belief , albeit pushed there by others .

 

[DennisPTate]

Because I believe Trumpfy is Deep State , I feel sure he would never be allowed to admit to more than , say , 75% of full truth.

Aside -- look at this absurd Fake Artemis Psy Op .

I have been persuaded that Change with a huge capital C will only come from a popular uprising of disgust and then hate .

This would come from detail
Knowledge of Sex /People / Kiddy / Experiment/ Trafficking plus Drugs organisation --- blackmail corruption .

To an extent Ukraine /Iran/Artemis etc are side shows. Deflections away from the one area that would allow the Munchers and Sheeple to successfully rise and revolt .

My deeply felt belief , albeit pushed there by others .

I am truly hopeful that several of the unusual predictions about Trump having a massive spiritual awakening will occur. It could happen any day now. Apparently it will be fairly obvious.

Mr. Mark Taylor :
4-28-11 Commander in Chief

The Spirit of God says, I have chosen this man, Donald Trump, for such a time as this. For as Benjamin Netanyahu is to lsrael, so shall this man be to the United States of America! For I will use this man to bring honor, respect and restoration to America. America will be respected once again as the most powerful and prosperous nation on earth, (other than lsrael). The dollar will be the strongest it has ever been in the history of the United States, and will once again be the currency by which all others are judged.


The Spirit of God says, the enemy will quake and shake and fear this man I have anointed. They will even quake and shake when he announces he is running for president, it will be like the shot heard across the world. The enemy will say what shall we do now? This man knows all our tricks and schemes. We have been robbing America for decades, what shall we do to stop this? The Spirit says HA! No one shall stop this that lhave started! Forthe enemy has stolen from America fordecades and it stops now! For I will use this man to reap the harvest that the United States has sown for and plunder from the enemy what he has stolen and return it 7 fold back to the United States. The enemy will say lsrael, lsrael, what about lsrael? For lsrael will be protected by America once again. The spirit says yes! America will once again stand hand and hand with lsrael, and the two shall be as one. For the ties between lsrael and America will be stronger than ever, and lsrael will flourish like never before.


The Spirit of God says, I will protect America and lsrael, for this next president will be a man of his word, when he speaks the world will listen and know that there is something greater in him than all the others before him. This man's word is his bond and the world and America will know this and the enemy will fear this, for this man will be fearless. The Spirit says, when the financial harvest begins so shall it parallel in the spiritual for America.


The Spirit of God says, in this next election they will spend billions to keep this president in; it will be like flushing their money down the toilet. Let them waist their money, for it comes from and it is being used by evil forces at work, but they will not succeed, for this next election will be a clean sweep for the man I have chosen. They will say things about this man (the enemy), but it will not affect him, and they shall say it rolls off of him like the duck, for as the feathers of a duck protect it, so shall my feathers protect this next president. Even mainstream news media will be captivated by this man and the abilities that I have gifted him with, and they will even begin to agree with him says the Spirit of God." (Mr. Mark Taylor, March 28, 2011)

www.SordRescue.com/

"The Lord is now preparing courageous leaders who
will be willing to fight a spiritual civil war in order to set men free.
The main issue, as in the American Civil War, will be slavery versus
freedom. The secondary issue, which will be the primary issue for some,
will be money.

Just as the American Civil War at time looked like it would destroy the entire
nation, that which is coming upon the church will sometimes appear as if it will
bring the end of the church. However, just as the United States not only
survived but went on to become the most powerful nation on earth, the same
is going to happen to the church. The church will not be destroyed, but the institutions
and doctrines that have kept men in spiritual slavery will be" (Rick Joyner, The Vision, page 39)

The Final Quest [English] Rick Joyner

The Final Quest [English] Rick Joyner

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