Zone1 The Ten Commandments don't apply to us.

[frigidweirdo]

Of course. It wasn't meant to be a navigable ship.

When I say "function", I mean, had it been that big, water would have been leaking into that think like crazy, there's no way in hell that it would have survived 4 nights, let along 40.

 

[ding]

you're the one with the problems - try a different book one without forgeries lies and fallacies strewn on nearly every page ...

I believe you are mentally ill.

 

[ding]

It's OK that you don't understand Judaism. You do you.

Please don't try to make some case with more AI slop. Stay with things you actually know, not things about which you think you speak as an armchair expert based on 10 minutes and Google.

I understand it better than you think.

 

[rosends]

I understand it better than you think.

You haven't demonstrated that at all. Try presenting what you have learned and know, not what AI says. And recognize that your impression does not supercede an actually educated practitioner.

 

[Hafar1014]

You haven't demonstrated that at all. Try presenting what you have learned and know, not what AI says. And recognize that your impression does not supercede an actually educated practitioner.

Ding dong doesnt understand much. She lives in a small box of reality

 

[Woodznutz]

When I say "function", I mean, had it been that big, water would have been leaking into that think like crazy, there's no way in hell that it would have survived 4 nights, let along 40.

The ark was sealed with pitch (bitumen?) inside and out, so it was watertight. Floating in still water would put no strain on the structure. It likely had little 'freeboard' sitting very low in the water so waves wouldn't be an issue either.

 

[Hafar1014]

The ark was sealed with pitch (bitumen?) inside and out, so it was watertight. Floating in still water would put no strain on the structure. It likely had little 'freeboard' sitting very low in the water so waves wouldn't be an issue either.

The ark is a metaphor it never existed

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Who was that man talking to? A Jewish Rabbi. Who was Jesus talking to? A Jewish man. That's why Jesus told the man to keep the laws he was under.
Jesus gave us two commandments. And if you keep those, Jesus said you have fulfilled 613 Jewish laws including the 10 that He sent Moses down the mountain with.

But you don't believe Him when He tells us exactly how to fulfill the law. HE EVEN QUOTES THE LAWS HE REPLACED!!! It's the very ten that you insist we put our selves under. They are the specific laws that His better covenant replaces!!!

Read it. Listen to what Jesus says you can do with your 10:
Romans 13:8 Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,” and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself." Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore, love is the fulfillment of the law.

What He replaced the 10+ with:
“A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.” – John 13:34

If Jesus can't convince you, neither can I...

"That's why Jesus told the man to keep the laws he was under."

You Irish,.... Pick & Choose from The Scriptures what pleases You, & Upholds Your Beliefs.

But You are not alone, for the Majority of the more than 30,000 different Sects of "Christianity" do the same.

"Jesus gave us two commandments."

Those "Two Commandments" are the Ten Commandments Covenant "Boiled down in to It's finest essence. Look hard at them, & If You truly seek The Truth about the matter, then it shouldn't take more than a minute for you to see "The Light".:

Exo 20:1 God spoke all these words, saying,
Exo 20:2 “I am Yahweh your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
Exo 20:3 “You shall have no other gods before me.
Exo 20:4 “You shall not make for yourselves an idol, nor any image of anything that is in the heavens above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Exo 20:5 you shall not bow yourself down to them, nor serve them, for I, Yahweh your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and on the fourth generation of those who hate me,
Exo 20:6 and showing loving kindness to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.
Exo 20:7 “You shall not take the name of Yahweh your God in vain, for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.
Exo 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 You shall labor six days, and do all your work,
Exo 20:10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to Yahweh your God. You shall not do any work in it, you, nor your son, nor your daughter, your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your livestock, nor your stranger who is within your gates;
Exo 20:11 for in six days Yahweh made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day; therefore Yahweh blessed the Sabbath day, and made it holy.


Exo 20:12 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land which Yahweh your God gives you.
Exo 20:13 “You shall not murder.
Exo 20:14 “You shall not commit adultery.
Exo 20:15 “You shall not steal.
Exo 20:16 “You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.
Exo 20:17 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”

"And if you keep those, Jesus said you have fulfilled 613 Jewish laws including the 10 that He sent Moses down the mountain with."

The Messiah,... Yahshuah HaMashiach,.... Never, Ever, stated anything about keeping the so called "613 Laws". You either are suffering from a Great Lack of Knowledge about The Scriptures, or,....You are a Liar.
"But you don't believe Him when He tells us exactly how to fulfill the law."

That is Your baseless Assumption, You know very little, if anything about me Irish.
"Read it. Listen to what Jesus says you can do with your 10:
Romans 13:8 "
Again, You are showing Your Lack of Knowledge of The Scriptures, ... Paul wrote that, It's not a quote from the Messiah.
"They are the specific laws that His better covenant replaces!!!"

He absolutely did not state that He was replacing "His Covenant",.... In Fact, several End Times Prophecies, state that The "Covenant" will be permanently placed within the "Hearts/Minds" of those who Believe.

 

[Woodznutz]

The ark is a metaphor it never existed

The story is written as an actual event, not a metaphor, allegory, or parable. Too many details.

 

[ding]

It's OK that you don't understand Judaism. You do you.

Please don't try to make some case with more AI slop. Stay with things you actually know, not things about which you think you speak as an armchair expert based on 10 minutes and Google.

AI didn't tell me Jews worship a book instead of God. A lot of Christians do the same thing. The OT tells the story of a people that cycled between remembering and forgetting God and what happened to them when they did. Making it about rule following instead of loving God is worshipping a book instead of God.

 

[Hafar1014]

The story is written as an actual event, not a metaphor, allegory, or parable. Too many details.

It cant be real since its not possible. Its an allegory like most of the Old Testament.

 

[BreezeWood]

you're the one with the problems - try a different book one without forgeries lies and fallacies strewn on nearly every page ...

I believe you are mentally ill.

they wrote their bibles to placate the errant dispositions of those unable to fend for themselves and use their weaknesses to insure their pre determined agendas bettering themselves over others using false heavenly personifications to justify their demonic objectives - bing.

the phony commandments claimed heavenly by the liar and murderer moses that have never existed as example the same far fetched stories made up by abraham, unverified communication w/ a particular god that likewise assuredly does not exist.

both putting themselves above all others and their false religions / agendas - desert bibles.

 

[Hafar1014]

they wrote their bibles to placate the errant dispositions of those unable to fend for themselves and use their weaknesses to insure their pre determined agendas bettering themselves over others using false heavenly personifications to justify their demonic objectives - bing.

the phony commandments claimed heavenly by the liar and murderer moses that have never existed as example the same far fetched stories made up by abraham, unverified communication w/ a particular god that likewise assuredly does not exist.

both putting themselves above all others and their false religions / agendas - desert bibles.

These are the thoughts of mental illness

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

AI didn't tell me Jews worship a book instead of God. A lot of Christians do the same thing. The OT tells the story of a people that cycled between remembering and forgetting God and what happened to them when they did. Making it about rule following instead of loving God is worshipping a book instead of God.

Ding,... The largest Sects/"Movements" of "Judaism" Honor the Rabbis, and the Talmud, Gematria, Kaballah, etc., more so than the Tanach (Old Testament).

 

[BreezeWood]

Exo 20:3 “You shall have no other gods before me.

- why judaism is refuted during the 1st century events, jesus. no such commandment from the heavens ever existed.

that is an absurdity - the very reason the settlers left europe to start new lives is to live their own life best they can without intimidation - not being controlled by someone else, their own spirit is inviolable.

the same as taught by jesus- liberation theology, self determination.

all in the heavens are equal - monotheism.

 

[Hafar1014]

- why judaism is refuted during the 1st century events, jesus. no such commandment from the heavens ever existed.

that is an absurdity - the very reason the settlers left europe to start new lives is to live their own life best they can without intimidation - not being controlled by someone else, their own spirit is inviolable.

the same as taught by jesus- liberation theology, self determination.

all in the heavens are equal - monotheism.

Jesus teaches beieve in him or burn in hell. How is that liberation

 

[BreezeWood]

It cant be real since its not possible. Its an allegory like most of the Old Testament.

- as written in all three desert bibles making all three phony as another example including their phony commandments - used to persecute and victimize the innocent ... and helpless animals - 1014 dog they whip and throw stones at.

very early in evolution a heavenly managed deluge to irradiate the hopelessly evil that eventually would have been a complete takeover is what occurred to give humanity another chance ...

those orange jesus's are laid to rest forever.

 

[BreezeWood]

Jesus teaches beieve in him or burn in hell. How is that liberation

that would be 4th century embellishment - written by the crucifiers of that time (and is an overstatement by 1014).

the refutation of judaism - is liberation theology taught by jesus ...

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

"Today, we can see that those admonitions that the Lord gave American Christians have been completely ignored.
Consider, as I lay down this premise, what Alexander Hamilton, a major force and champion of the U.S. Constitution, stated during the conception of this country: “For my own part, I sincerely esteem it [the Constitution] a system which without the finger of God, never could have been suggested and agreed upon by such a diversity of interests.”


Also consider Benjamin Rush, signer of the Declaration of Independence, when he said, concerning the Constitution, “I am satisfied that it is as much the work of a divine Providence as any of the miracles recorded in the old and New Testament.”


"Outside of the fact that the “Christian” church has departed from the authority of Scripture, “One faith” (John 14:6 – 1 Corinthians 1:10), it now has over 45,000 denominations worldwide. I believe that it is safe to say that they have now given their allegiance over to man, in contrast to the Lord’s directives found within His instruction manual, His Word.


So goes the Church, so goes the government."

What Did You Expect Would Be The Outcome When You Play By Their Made-Up Rules? – The Washington Standard

“The deterioration of every government begins with the decay of the principles on which it was founded.” Many of us have already heard Chris Hedges quote, which states, “We now live in a nation where doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments...

thewashingtonstandard.com

 

[rosends]

AI didn't tell me Jews worship a book instead of God. A lot of Christians do the same thing. The OT tells the story of a people that cycled between remembering and forgetting God and what happened to them when they did. Making it about rule following instead of loving God is worshipping a book instead of God.

so you don't know the content of Jewish liturgy and law. That's ok.