Zone1 The Ten Commandments don't apply to us.

[BreezeWood]

“Why do you call me good? No one is good but one, that is, God.

ridiculous - false 4th century embellishment ...

1st century events, jesus renewed the heavenly constancy that all in the heavens are equal by means of their admission - the underlaying criteria for monotheism.

 

[ding]

Well its either my inability to explain such hard to decipher metaphors like talking serpents and jackasses like ding, or your inability to grasp what any second grade child should know.

There's tons of allegory in Genesis. Not so for the new testament. And none for the 613 Jewish commandments either.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Are you banning an employer from putting up a poster on the wall of the DOJ that says "justice, justice you should pursue"? But why shift the conversation to a "government office"?

OK. But why is that relevant to the posting of curricularly relevant material sourced from a religious text?

What if that guy used politics to make people's lives better but the account of it is in the Bible? Don't go fuse container for content.

Uotes and symbols are very different in certain ways.

Imagine you're a Christian in a majority Muslim country but which claims equality of religion and you walk into a government place hoping to be treated fairly, and there's writing of the Koran on the walls, and you just have this feeling that you'll never get treated fairly.

 

[frigidweirdo]

You've never seen a house floating downriver in a flood?

The definition of a ship includes the ability to navigate. The ark simply went where the flood took it. For more details read the story.

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I'm quite sure a house floating down a river after a flood with two of every species of animal (there are about 2 million species) would not float.

Doesn't matter whether the Ark went where the flood took it or not.

A ship that size would need to be build in a certain manner in order to hold the weight it's being asked to hold. The wood would be bending and moving and the ship would be taking on water WITHOUT the animals on board. No matter how you made it. Wood that length in the ocean or a river, is going to have loads of problems.

It's simply physics.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Many in government wish with all their hearts that people would follow the moral tenets of their religion. It would make life so much better in America.

So?

If people were sheep and did what they were told, yes, it'd be easier for those governing.

But the US has freedom of religion. They decided this would make America better.

 

[BreezeWood]

Christ is the end of the law

It simply doesn't get any clearer...

there is neither, heavenly laws that never existed, the 10 commandments et al or any such makebelieve messiah's ... sink or * build a boat.

* sarcasm.

 

[BreezeWood]

Interesting thing about the 10 Commandments. It was the foundation for the Constitution. Why? It is purported to be written by the hand of God, and thus not could not be overruled by whatever kings or powerbrokers.

OK, how is that important? The Constitution is very difficult to alter because of this and is so because of the idea of the Commandments. It may be abstract to many, but it is none-the-less very true. It is, in fact, the foundation of law and has been for millennia.

oh,

The United States Constitution has been amended 27 times.

there might be hope if ever desert dwellers wake up and at liest amend their phony commandments in an attempt to make them instead heavenly goals.

 

[ding]

oh,



there might be hope if ever desert dwellers wake up and at liest amend their phony commandments in an attempt to make them instead heavenly goals.

I did a search on how many times you used the phrase "desert dwellers" and "phony commandments."

Care to wager a guess how many times you used each?

 

[Clyde 154]

Fact: All the 10 commandmentd carried over from the Old Law into the New Testament Law of Christ Jesus, save one, the command to worship on any Sabbath. All the other 9 commandments can be documented by Book, Chapter and Verse as doctrine from Christ Jesus.

Sabbath Worship? Christians worship and take communion on the 1st day of the week not on any Sabbath. (Acts 20:7)

What about the 10 commandments from the old law carried forth in the N.T. law and failure to abide by such is a sin as stated in scripture?

Commandment 1. No other God's before Me. O.T. (Ex. 20:3)........N.T. (1 Cor. 10:21-22). No. 2. No graven images. O.T. (Ex. 20:4) N.T. (1 Cor.6:9-10) No. 3. O.T. (Ex.20:6) No. 4. O.T. (Ex. 20:8) Remember the Sabbath to keep it holy.........N.T.? "Let no man judge you in food or drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or SABBATHS, which are a shadow of things to come." -- Col. 2:15-17.

The Lord's Day (Sunday, first day of the week) replaces Sabbath worship. (Rev. 1:10, Acts 20:7) Examples of Lord's day worship.

All other commandments are carried forth into N.T. Law ( commandment 5. Eph. 6:2-3). (commandment 6. Romans 13:9). (commandment 7. Romans 13:9). (Commandment 8. Romans 13:9) (Commandment 9. Romans 13:9) (Commandment 10. Romans 13:9)

The scriptures are clear if you attempt go back and worship ONE LAW from the O.T. not carried forth as Christian Doctrine......you must worship the entire law. Not even the Jews of today abide by the entirety of the Old Testament Laws. (Gal. 5:2-4)

 

[White 6]

/—-/ You clowns are getting more shrill every day. Have you tried meditation or Tai Chi?

Shrill? What shrill? Simply stated facts without even an exclamation point. Don't be such a little P#ssy.

 

[The Irish Ram]

All the other 9 commandments can be documented by Book, Chapter and Verse as doctrine from Christ Jesus.

Sorry Clyde 154, but that's simply not the case. Christ, a Jewish Rabbi, fulfilled the law for the Jews because they couldn't, and put us all under a new and better covenant. We are saved by grace through faith in Jesus, favor we don't deserve, and a love so strong we can't comprehend it. Our Father doesn't want disconnected from us for a second. To such a degree that He doesn't wait until after we sin. He forgives us while we're sinning.
The law points out a sin, but it doesn't remove it. Jesus took our sins and nailed them to the cross, and God said He would remember them no more. And in turn Jesus gave us His perfect record to enter Heaven. And gave it to us as a gift.
There's 21 pages in this thread with people that insist that we are under some of the law. But God couldn't be clearer on How He felt about the law:

Hebrews 8:6-9 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt.

 

[White 6]

The Founding Fathers did not, in the majority , deny an Almighty GOD, nor the Right to Worship Him.

What they were solidly against was the creation of a "State Religion", such as England's.

If Your Belief were True,.... Then there would not exist, any reference, to Our Creator, in many Historical, & Federal Documents, nor publicly exhibited on Federal Buildings/Monuments.

Again, it was their being against a "State Religion", ...... Not being against any belief in "GOD".

Nobody said they did. They just did not give US government the power to mandate, or enforce, either way.
I guess the schools may be forced to stick with the founding documents and let the Ten Commandments be taught in the churches, or face lawsuits from any non Christians or atheists, having it forced on their young in the public schools.

 

[BreezeWood]

I did a search on how many times you used the phrase "desert dwellers" and "phony commandments."

Care to wager a guess how many times you used each?

best to keep in mind -

who one is communicating with.

 

[Meathead]

oh,



there might be hope if ever desert dwellers wake up and at liest amend their phony commandments in an attempt to make them instead heavenly goals.

And it's still very hard to repeal. The Commandments are part and parcel of the history of law, indeed the very foundation of modern law.

 

[Clyde 154]

Sorry Clyde 154, but that's simply not the case. Christ, a Jewish Rabbi, fulfilled the law for the Jews because they couldn't, and put us all under a new and better covenant. We are saved by grace through faith in Jesus, favor we don't deserve, and a love so strong we can't comprehend it. Our Father doesn't want disconnected from us for a second. To such a degree that He doesn't wait until after we sin. He forgives us while we're sinning.
The law points out a sin, but it doesn't remove it. Jesus took our sins and nailed them to the cross, and God said He would remember them no more. And in turn Jesus gave us His perfect record to enter Heaven. And gave it to us as a gift.
There's 21 pages in this thread with people that insist that we are under some of the law. But God couldn't be clearer on How He felt about the law:

Hebrews 8:6-9 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt.

In order to falsely make the claims you are making you must dismiss the words of an Apostle as being useless drivel. The commandments are the eternally righteous Laws of the Father. The legality of the other O.T. Laws were exclusive to Biblical Israel (Deut. 4:7-8, 5:1-3). Whereas the Old Law was given exclusively to the Old Testament Jews, the N.T. was given to the entire world (Ep. 2:13-16)

If anyone attempts to live under the terms of the Old Law, for justification from God ".........you have fallen from grace......" -- Gal. 5:4

Christians are to study from the O.T. records as education from a schoolmaster, learning from that record as to not make the same mistakes as contained in that historical record. (Rom.15:14, 1 Cor.10:1-12, Gal. 3:24-25) The legality of the Old Law was sit aside by the Christ, having nailed it to His cross (Col. 2:14, Eph. 2:14-16) Today Christ is the only authority by which justification can be found in the eyes of God, as Jesus was granted all authority under heaven and on earth (Matt.28:18)

Book, Chapter and Verse was presented, demonstrating the fact that all commandments are carried forth into the N.T. Law as delivered by the Holy Spirit to the Apostles of Christ (who were appointed ministers of N.T. Law -- 2 Cor. 3:5-16).........with the exception of Sabbath Worship which is documented as being exclusive to the Law of Moses, as Sabbath Worship was not in effect before Moses or after the Old Testament was fulfilled just as promised by the prophet Jeremiah (Jer. 31:31-34).......and stated by Christ Jesus who came to Fulfill the Law (of Moses) not destroy it. (Matt. 5:17-18) The O.T. Law was nailed to the cross of Christ Jesus (Col. 2:14)

The Sabbath (day of rest) comes to the Christian, after the race of life is complete. God rested on the 7th day, not because God was tired.........but, because HE WAS FINISHED. We as Christians are commanded to Work always until the race is finished. (1 Cor. 15:58) Anyone who concludes that God's work is FINISHED on earth has given in to the enemies of the faith, the god of this earth......i.e, the evil that exists in this reality (2 Cor. 4:4)

 

[markef]

Apparently. Jes' sayin'.

The purpose of the ten commandments is to convince sinners they need The Savior.

 

[kevinthrowe]

and yet its the left that blocked the Ten Commandments from being displayed in public schools and court houses ..

It is the shame of the GOP, they display the Commandments
The Dems practice the Commandments
Write out the list and compare