The Right loves Big Government

[bripat9643]

There was a time when they didn’t.

But that was before their primary imperatives were “owning the libs” and culture wars 24/7.

Is the anti-vaccine, anti-government alarmist bent on the American right here to stay? And if so, at what magnitude?​

Certainly cafeteria libertarianism is nothing new. It’s been a dozen years since members of the Tea Party movement expressed revolutionary zeal in opposing Obamacare but bitterly rejected even modest changes to shore up Medicare. It’s been 20 years that situational defenders of liberty have railed against the invasiveness of the TSA but supported policing initiatives like “stop and frisk.”​

So maybe we shouldn’t be so surprised that many of the same people who are now the most intensely opposed to vaccines and vaccine mandates come from the same nationalist wing of the right that wants to use government compulsion for its own causes. Whether it’s banning pornography, controlling online speech, or centrally planning an economy oriented toward manufacturing, the subscript on the Gadsden flags of the anti-vaxx protests should say “but maybe tread on thee.”​

Thank Goodness for Phony Passion

How many conservative opponents of vaccines and mandates are really just addicted to negative partisanship?

thedispatch.com

So if you oppose forcing people to get vaccinated, you are "big government?"

Do you see why people think progs are all morons?

 

[Natural Citizen]

But no one can say what makes someone a conservative, can you?

It's like trying to find big foot or something.

Au contraire mon frere...

 

[Votto]

Sure, it is easy. A a conservative is someone with conservative fiscal views and policies. Limited size of Govt, less spending, no deficit spending, free markets and free trade.

Compared to who though?

That is where they get ya!

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Big government is over-regulation.
Spending isn't the same thing.
That's just some horseshit the media dreamed up because it's something you can show on a balance sheet.
But the size of government is dependent on how much it interferes with our lives.

Again, name the last true Fiscal Conservative President because I have never seen one in my life…

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Again, name the last true Fiscal Conservative President because I have never seen one in my life…

Calvin Coolidge

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Compared to who though?

That is where they get ya!

No, that is just your sleazy way of pretending to be a conservatize while supporting politicians that are not

 

[bripat9643]

Sure, it is easy. A a conservative is someone with conservative fiscal views and policies. Limited size of Govt, less spending, no deficit spending, free markets and free trade.

Of course, progs like you call someone like that "extreme."

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Of course, progs like you call someone like that "extreme."

I voted for a person like that, but you did not

 

[martybegan]

Actually the biggest group who is not getting the jab seems to be minorities who don't trust government.

But that shows how corrupt the media is regarding why you did not know that.

It also shows their indifference to the large numbers dying off of Covid, much like the DNC and BLM indifference to black on black violence in the inner cities

In fact, in New York city there have been more black abortions than births as the US has most abortion clinics strategically located around black neighborhoods..

Very telling.

You can tell that minorities are the primary group of concern in NYC with regards to vax status because almost all the ads on TV are targeting them.

And these aren't the scare tactic ads you think they are, they are almost pleading with people and reasoning with them to get vaccinated.

 

[Otis Mayfield]

Beginning Farmer and Rancher Development Program	Strengthens beginning farmers’ technical and business skills by funding training projects for beginning farmers led by non-profit organizations, academic institutions, extension services, and producer groups.	O
Conservation Reserve Program – Transition Incentives Program	Encourages landowners to sell or lease long-term to beginning or socially-disadvantaged farmers and ranchers willing to implement sustainable practices or transition to organic production by providing two years of additional payments for expiring CRP-enrolled land.	F
Direct and Guaranteed Farm Loans	DIRECT – Provides government loans to allow family farmers, including beginning and socially disadvantaged farmers, to purchase farmland, equipment, and other start-up and production necessities. GUARANTEE – Provides a government guarantee on commercial loans to family farmers, including beginning and socially disadvantaged farmers, for real estate costs or farm operating expenses.	F
Down Payment Loans	Provides a low-interest government loan, made in conjunction with a private bank loan and a borrower down payment, to help beginning, minority, and women farmers purchase a farm or ranch.	F
Land Contract Guarantee	Reduces risk for retiring farmers who sell land via a mulit-year land contract to beginning or socially disadvantaged farmers by providing a federal guarantee in case the buyer encounters problems making payments.	F
Microloans	Provides small farm loans (up to $50,000) for annual operating expenses or real estate purchases tailored for small, young, beginning, socially disadvantaged, and veteran farmers and diversified farming operations serving local markets.	F
Outreach and Assistance for Socially Disadvantaged and Veteran Farmers and Ranchers	Provides outreach and technical assistance to increase participation of minority and historically underserved producers in USDA programs through competitive grants made to non-profit and tribal organizations, academic institutions and cooperative extension.	O

And these are just 10% of the social programs available to farmers.

Overview: Farm Bill Programs & Grants - National Sustainable Agriculture Coalition

The charts below provide a quick guide to federal farm and food-related programs and grants, organized by issue and by who is eligible to apply or sign up. Important announcements like application announcements (RFAs) and deadlines are also announced in our blog and sent out in the NSAC Weekly...

sustainableagriculture.net

 

[Orangecat]

Whether it’s banning pornography, controlling online speech, or centrally planning an economy oriented toward manufacturing, the subscript on the Gadsden flags of the anti-vaxx protests should say “but maybe tread on thee.”

Nice Alinsky BS, idiot.
I'm not for the fed-gov controlling any of that.
You are the epitome of a useful idiot.

 

[Votto]

Actually, I can sit back and watch. Sure, it is sad, and some of the them are very nice relatively normal productive people with families and responsibilities. What they do or don't do about rejecting vaccines or even using fishbowl cleaner really does not affect me, personally. I am not in the working population, have had it and still chose to be fully vaxxed, and not working in a crowded public workspace, I can manage my own exposure just fine. It is just a curiosity to me, making me wonder, what happened to make them so dumb and even having a certain revulsion at the weakness in come to Jesus moments near the end, realizing their mistake, too late.

Normal and respectable people must be replaced for the Brave New World Order.

We have a new normal after all.

 

[jbrownson0831]

It's insane that COVID became political with trump supporters being anti-vaxx and Biden supporters being pro vaxx.


A lot of trump supporters died of COVID needlessly.

Many Trump supporters have gotten vaccinated, and many dark Dimmers have not.....

 

[White 6]

Why would someone be dumb for questioning? That is science.......to question everything and ask why.

Not dumb for questioning, just exceedingly slow to get a clue, due to bias and propaganda and still acting to their own detriment with full view of many of the outcomes of their like-minded. There comes a point where people like me just look, point and just say, "How bout that? Another idiot dead by his own stupidity".

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Not dumb for questioning, just exceedingly slow to get a clue, due to bias and propaganda and still acting to their own detriment with full view of many of the outcomes of their like-minded. There comes a point where people like me just look, point and just say, "How bout that? Another idiot dead by his own stupidity".

Are you saying that the "idiots" who took a shot and died was because of their own stupidity OR that the "idiot" was stupid and died because he/she didn't take a shot?

 

[White 6]

Are you saying that the "idiots" who took a shot and died was because of their own stupidity OR that the "idiot" was stupid and died because he/she didn't take a shot?

The people getting sickest in the largest numbers now are the unvaxxed. Numbers of infected may be more for vaxxed, but serious conditions and death are weighted to the unvaxxed, whose luck has run out.

 

[Votto]

No, that is just your sleazy way of pretending to be a conservatize while supporting politicians that are not

No, in comparison to whoever they are running against

That is where they get ya.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

No, in comparison to whoever they are running against

That is where they get ya.

One being slightly more right than the other does not make either of them conservatives. You all have chosen to vote for the "least bad" and the result is 30 trillion dollars in debt.

 

[kaz]

There was a time when they didn’t.

But that was before their primary imperatives were “owning the libs” and culture wars 24/7.

Is the anti-vaccine, anti-government alarmist bent on the American right here to stay? And if so, at what magnitude?​

Certainly cafeteria libertarianism is nothing new. It’s been a dozen years since members of the Tea Party movement expressed revolutionary zeal in opposing Obamacare but bitterly rejected even modest changes to shore up Medicare. It’s been 20 years that situational defenders of liberty have railed against the invasiveness of the TSA but supported policing initiatives like “stop and frisk.”​

So maybe we shouldn’t be so surprised that many of the same people who are now the most intensely opposed to vaccines and vaccine mandates come from the same nationalist wing of the right that wants to use government compulsion for its own causes. Whether it’s banning pornography, controlling online speech, or centrally planning an economy oriented toward manufacturing, the subscript on the Gadsden flags of the anti-vaxx protests should say “but maybe tread on thee.”​

Thank Goodness for Phony Passion

How many conservative opponents of vaccines and mandates are really just addicted to negative partisanship?

thedispatch.com

Well fake Toro, that's just stupid. What are you smoking that you think Republicans are "anti-vaccine?" Seriously, what? Dude be tripping

 

[Votto]

One being slightly more right than the other does not make either of them conservatives. You all have chosen to vote for the "least bad" and the result is 30 trillion dollars in debt.

But we are only left with two choices in which to vote.

At the end of the day, what does your personal notion of what a conservative really matter other than piss you off when you compare it to the buffoons chosen by both parties?