The Right loves Big Government

[Natural Citizen]

I just wanna know what "the right'' means.

Or "the left'' for that matter.

I keep asking but nobody ever explains.

I think it's important to establish some kind of meaning. Otherwise there's simply no meaningful benchmark for measuring consistency in terms of principles.

I mean, I guess you could say "I'm Red'' or I'm Blue'' but that's also about as deep as a mud puddle.


For instance. Is a belief in deficit finance left or right?

 

[Delldude]

Significant numbers are dying. Not nearly as many as Trump cultists, but still a lot. That's why we can't just sit back and let you death-cultists keep offing yourselves. Your suicidal stupidity is taking too many decent human beings along with you.

That's why I keep pointing out how so many more Republicans are dying than Democrats. I figure the threat of losing elections might be the only thing that can motivate you.

The vax has a Manchurian Candidate additive to get you to go dem. Is why the right is so resistant.

 

[mamooth]

The vax has a Manchurian Candidate additive to get you to go dem. Is why the right is so resistant.

I don't know if that was serious or not. It sounds like it has to be a joke, but then, the right here constantly says much nuttier things.

 

[Delldude]

I don't know if that was serious or not. It sounds like it has to be a joke, but then, the right here constantly says much nuttier things.

Doesn't work, more dems that were vaxed are leaning Republican now.

 

[bendog]

There was a time when they didn’t.

But that was before their primary imperatives were “owning the libs” and culture wars 24/7.

Is the anti-vaccine, anti-government alarmist bent on the American right here to stay? And if so, at what magnitude?​

Certainly cafeteria libertarianism is nothing new. It’s been a dozen years since members of the Tea Party movement expressed revolutionary zeal in opposing Obamacare but bitterly rejected even modest changes to shore up Medicare. It’s been 20 years that situational defenders of liberty have railed against the invasiveness of the TSA but supported policing initiatives like “stop and frisk.”​

So maybe we shouldn’t be so surprised that many of the same people who are now the most intensely opposed to vaccines and vaccine mandates come from the same nationalist wing of the right that wants to use government compulsion for its own causes. Whether it’s banning pornography, controlling online speech, or centrally planning an economy oriented toward manufacturing, the subscript on the Gadsden flags of the anti-vaxx protests should say “but maybe tread on thee.”​

Thank Goodness for Phony Passion

How many conservative opponents of vaccines and mandates are really just addicted to negative partisanship?

thedispatch.com

I dunno. Prior to the 20 election, and prior to covid vaccines, the anti-vac movement was most active amongst white, middle to affluent, mostly female folks who were not political idealogues. Jenny McCarthy, RFK jr who isn't really welcome in dem circles. I think the link acknowledged that.

imo the covid vaccine is a little different. Like the anti-vac movement, there's no real scientific evidence that the vaccines are more dangerous than others, or there's any tie to a specific condidtion like autism. And with these vaccines, the engineered dna does to remain in your body long term, hence the relative short term benefit. Imo it's more ideological. Trump would have been reelected but for covid, I don't think there's much debate there. But Trump's claims to rigged elections and Trump's theory of how votes should be counted are stuff of conspiracy theories. When the result is something unacceptable, like Vietnam or JFK's assassination, then the facts are unacceptable.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

When was that?

I was wondering the same damn thing!

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Significant numbers are dying. Not nearly as many as Trump cultists, but still a lot. That's why we can't just sit back and let you death-cultists keep offing yourselves. Your suicidal stupidity is taking too many decent human beings along with you.

That's why I keep pointing out how so many more Republicans are dying than Democrats. I figure the threat of losing elections might be the only thing that can motivate you.

Time for a panty check, shitstain.

 

[Votto]

It's insane that COVID became political with trump supporters being anti-vaxx and Biden supporters being pro vaxx.


A lot of trump supporters died of COVID needlessly.

Actually the biggest group who is not getting the jab seems to be minorities who don't trust government.

But that shows how corrupt the media is regarding why you did not know that.

It also shows their indifference to the large numbers dying off of Covid, much like the DNC and BLM indifference to black on black violence in the inner cities

In fact, in New York city there have been more black abortions than births as the US has most abortion clinics strategically located around black neighborhoods..

Very telling.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Significant numbers are dying. Not nearly as many as Trump cultists, but still a lot. That's why we can't just sit back and let you death-cultists keep offing yourselves. Your suicidal stupidity is taking too many decent human beings along with you.

That's why I keep pointing out how so many more Republicans are dying than Democrats. I figure the threat of losing elections might be the only thing that can motivate you.

Does the Vaccine stop the contracting and spread of the virus if you are jabbed multiple times?

 

[mudwhistle]

When was that?

Last week.....this is a new development.....or just one of Toro's fantasies.

Biden can't even remember what the GOP stands for....but we do.
Basically the GOP stands for everything you folks are against:

• Smaller government (fewer regulations)
• Upholding the constitution
• Freedom of speech
• Freedom of religion
• Support the 2nd Amendment
• Making America #1, not #2
• Maintaining a strong military
• Getting out of the way of the engines driving the economy
• Voter I.D. laws that make sense
• 2 sexes
• Equality not equity

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Toro is one of those dino's that think politicians like "W" were conservative

\Ya know, they guy who voted for Biden.

The last conservative president was a guy named Calvin

 

[LordBrownTrout]

There was a time when they didn’t.

But that was before their primary imperatives were “owning the libs” and culture wars 24/7.

Is the anti-vaccine, anti-government alarmist bent on the American right here to stay? And if so, at what magnitude?​

Certainly cafeteria libertarianism is nothing new. It’s been a dozen years since members of the Tea Party movement expressed revolutionary zeal in opposing Obamacare but bitterly rejected even modest changes to shore up Medicare. It’s been 20 years that situational defenders of liberty have railed against the invasiveness of the TSA but supported policing initiatives like “stop and frisk.”​

So maybe we shouldn’t be so surprised that many of the same people who are now the most intensely opposed to vaccines and vaccine mandates come from the same nationalist wing of the right that wants to use government compulsion for its own causes. Whether it’s banning pornography, controlling online speech, or centrally planning an economy oriented toward manufacturing, the subscript on the Gadsden flags of the anti-vaxx protests should say “but maybe tread on thee.”​

Thank Goodness for Phony Passion

How many conservative opponents of vaccines and mandates are really just addicted to negative partisanship?

thedispatch.com

They always have loved big govt. Where have you been?

 

[Votto]

Significant numbers are dying. Not nearly as many as Trump cultists, but still a lot. That's why we can't just sit back and let you death-cultists keep offing yourselves. Your suicidal stupidity is taking too many decent human beings along with you.

That's why I keep pointing out how so many more Republicans are dying than Democrats. I figure the threat of losing elections might be the only thing that can motivate you.

Tell you what. You keep murdering the unborn and we will keep dying of Covid

We should have global warming under control in no time.

Then we will have a Left wing utopia.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Last week.....this is a new development.....or just one of Toro's fantasies.

Biden can't even remember what the GOP stands for....but we do.
Basically the GOP stands for everything you folks are against:

• Smaller government (fewer regulations)
• Upholding the constitution
• Freedom of speech
• Freedom of religion
• Support the 2nd Amendment
• Making America #1, not #2
• Maintaining a strong military
• Getting out of the way of the engines driving the economy
• Voter I.D. laws that make sense
• 2 sexes
• Equality not equity

Name the last small government President that was Republican and if you say Trump I will seat you on the nose Ubu!

 

[White 6]

Significant numbers are dying. Not nearly as many as Trump cultists, but still a lot. That's why we can't just sit back and let you death-cultists keep offing yourselves. Your suicidal stupidity is taking too many decent human beings along with you.

That's why I keep pointing out how so many more Republicans are dying than Democrats. I figure the threat of losing elections might be the only thing that can motivate you.

Actually, I can sit back and watch. Sure, it is sad, and some of the them are very nice relatively normal productive people with families and responsibilities. What they do or don't do about rejecting vaccines or even using fishbowl cleaner really does not affect me, personally. I am not in the working population, have had it and still chose to be fully vaxxed, and not working in a crowded public workspace, I can manage my own exposure just fine. It is just a curiosity to me, making me wonder, what happened to make them so dumb and even having a certain revulsion at the weakness in come to Jesus moments near the end, realizing their mistake, too late.

 

[Votto]

The last conservative president was a guy named Calvin

But no one can say what makes someone a conservative, can you?

It's like trying to find big foot or something.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Does the Vaccine stop the contracting and spread of the virus if you are jabbed multiple times?

I think I read that after a hundred jabs, one is no longer able to transmit to others.

 

[mudwhistle]

Name the last small government President that was Republican and if you say Trump I will seat you on the nose Ubu!

Big government is over-regulation.
Spending isn't the same thing.
That's just some horseshit the media dreamed up because it's something you can show on a balance sheet.
But the size of government is dependent on how much it interferes with our lives.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Actually, I can sit back and watch. Sure, it is sad, and some of the them are very nice relatively normal productive people with families and responsibilities. What they do or don't do about rejecting vaccines or even using fishbowl cleaner really does not affect me, personally. I am not in the working population, have had it and still chose to be fully vaxxed, and not working in a crowded public workspace, I can manage my own exposure just fine. It is just a curiosity to me, making me wonder, what happened to make them so dumb and even having a certain revulsion at the weakness in come to Jesus moments near the end, realizing their mistake, too late.

Why would someone be dumb for questioning? That is science.......to question everything and ask why.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

But no one can say what makes someone a conservative, can you?

It's like trying to find big foot or something.

Sure, it is easy. A a conservative is someone with conservative fiscal views and policies. Limited size of Govt, less spending, no deficit spending, free markets and free trade.