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The reason Conservatives lie so much

Smokin' OP

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Wow....

And they say the right lives in an alternate reality.
WTF are you referring to?

If a person is accused of bank robbery, the cops show up, identifies the 'suspect' the person is arrested and put in jail.
They don't give the person a notice to appear and let them go.
That is guilt, (Cops put you in jail on suspicion of a crime) either let you go on bail or hold you until trial.
 

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The reason Conservatives lie so much.​

Not so much, it's the republicans who claim to be conservative, that lie so much.
They lie about being conservative, it goes downhill from there.
Look who they defend and support.
RINOs need to be expunged
 

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Ignore the Dr. example. Although I would like to get back to that as some point, as that conversation was captured. Let's focus on the Red Flag law.

With Red Flag laws guns are taken away first and then you have to fight to get them back. That is not due process....period (and not an Obama "period"). With this law you don't have to commit any crime at all, yet you can have a loss of your rights. You have to fight to get that right back without having even committed a crime. What other rights are you okay with being taken away BEFORE a crime is committed? BTW...I have a good movie I think you would like.


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This guy supports you. He also took guns without due process as well.
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'With Red Flag laws guns are taken away first and then you have to fight to get them back. That is not due process....period (and not an Obama "period"). With this law you don't have to commit any crime at all, yet you can have a loss of your rights'.

Not true, the police determines whether you broke the law, that's why they either take you to jail or remove the item you may harm someone with.

'What other rights are you okay with being taken away BEFORE a crime is committed'?
That's your opinion.
The cops and judge has a different one.

A kid talking in private, with another one about killing people at his school, the other kid calls the police, the police search his home and find out his dad has weapons, no crime was committed, but the kid made threats and goes to jail.
 

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Traitors to Xi and the CCP, right Komrade?
No.

Republicans embraced both, the CCP and their comrades in Russia.

March 3, 2018
U.S. President Donald Trump praised Chinese President Xi Jinping Saturday after the ruling Communist party announced it was eliminating the two-term limit for the presidency, paving the way for Xi to serve indefinitely.

“He’s now president for life, president for life. And he’s great,” Trump said, according to audio of excerpts of Trump’s remarks at a closed-door fundraiser in Florida.
“And look, he was able to do that. I think it’s great. Maybe we’ll have to give that a shot someday,” Trump said to cheers and applause from supporters.

Trump praises a communist.
Trump's cult praises communism.

July 5, 2018
Eight members of Congress, all Republicans, spent America's Independence Day in Russia.

Seven senators — John Kennedy (R-LA), Richard Shelby (R-AL), Steve Daines (R-MT), John Hoeven (R-ND), John Thune (R-SD), Jerry Moran (R-KS), and Ron Johnson (R-WI) — and one House member, Kay Granger (R-TX), are all in Moscow over the Fourth of July holiday this week for talks with Russian lawmakers and officials.

Kennedy described Tuesday's meeting as "damn frank, very, very, very frank, no holds barred," and claimed that he "asked our friends in Russia not to interfere in our elections this year."

But Russian lawmaker Vyacheslav Nikonov described the meeting as "one of the easiest ones in my life," and claimed that election meddling was only brought up "in general form" and was resolved quickly.

Meanwhile, Shelby was even less confrontational than Kennedy. "I’m not here today to accuse Russia of this or that or so forth,” he said during a plenary session at the State Duma, Russia's lower house of parliament.

Republicans also met with Sergey Kislyak — yes, the same Sergey Kislyak who secretly met with numerous members of the Trump campaign, including disgraced former national security adviser Michael Flynn. Kislyak is now a member of the upper house of parliament.

Looks like traitors, sounds like traitors, they are traitors.
 

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WTF are you referring to?

If a person is accused of bank robbery, the cops show up, identifies the 'suspect' the person is arrested and put in jail.
They don't give the person a notice to appear and let them go.
That is guilt, (Cops put you in jail on suspicion of a crime) either let you go on bail or hold you until trial.
I am referring to your utter ignorance on the most simplest and basic tenants of our legal system. Tenants that my 6 year old daughter is well aware of.
 

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'With Red Flag laws guns are taken away first and then you have to fight to get them back. That is not due process....period (and not an Obama "period"). With this law you don't have to commit any crime at all, yet you can have a loss of your rights'.

Not true, the police determines whether you broke the law, that's why they either take you to jail or remove the item you may harm someone with.

'What other rights are you okay with being taken away BEFORE a crime is committed'?
That's your opinion.
The cops and judge has a different one.

A kid talking in private, with another one about killing people at his school, the other kid calls the police, the police search his home and find out his dad has weapons, no crime was committed, but the kid made threats and goes to jail.
That is totally false. Nothing you state above is correct. see links I have posted earlier. They can be taken away with ZERO laws being broken.

But here is another just for fun.

This legislative movement seeks to create a process to remove firearms from the homes of people who are rumored to be dangerous to themselves or others.
The 5th & 14th Amendments of the U.S. Constitution mandate that no one shall be "deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law." Although this should be clear to anyone with a basic comprehension of English, it’s often ignored by judges and politicians. Depriving people of a constitutional right before a trial and without charges tramples on the notion of innocent until proven guilty and severely erodes the core values of justice.
citizens found guilty of nothing and charged with no crime will be paying expensive fees to petition the courts to restore what should be their constitutionally guaranteed rights.
 

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Think about it...was the American economy better under Reagan, the Bush's and Trump than that of Clinton, Obama, and Biden? Answer: NO. Was America any safer? Answer: NO Was the crime rate any lower? Answer: NO Was the national debt any smaller? Answer: NO. (Clinton was the last President to record a national surplus)
Clinton surplus? I thought this thread was about conservatives lying yet you start the OP with a lie about Clinton. The Debt went up every year Clinton was president. You can not have a surplus if you borrow money.

Further, Clinton did not write the budget, that is the job of Legislative Branch of Government, not the Executive Branch.

So that is two lies you began your OP with. Your OP is simply, garbage.
09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86

09/30/1999 5,656,270,901,615.43
09/30/1998 5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 4,411,488,883,139.38
 

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Liberals want to take all our guns away, Liberals want open borders, Liberals never work, Liberals are soft on crime, Liberals just want is "free stuff" Liberals are Socialists, Liberals hate white people, Liberals are destroying our cities with crime and violence. On and on it goes. Here is the cold, hard truth why these lies persist to this day-
what's the lie?
 

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Was the environment any cleaner?
Yes, it was NIXON who started the EPA to clean the mess that the Democrats had made of our country. Hell, we are still cleaning the Democrat's mess!

Thee most toxic polluted site on earth is Hanford in Washington state, created by the Democrats as part of the Atomic Bomb, Manhattan Project in 1943.

We should also remember that it was the Democrats that built and then dropped the atomic bombs on Japan, destroying the environment in Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

We could go on with this clean green energy farce and the toxic pollution that created.

That is 3 lies you began your OP with.
 

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Were our children any better educated? Answer: NO.
Ha, ha, ha, you are up to three lies and I think we all can admit and state as a matter of fact, that Common Core was and is the worst idea yet.

Revisionist history, Marxist teachers, teach the children to hate our country, not to mention the mountain of debt it costs to go our Universities which are ran by Democrats, I would say that Democrats definitely failed educating our children.

Hell, with abortion many children are not born, and who teaches that children are so bad that they must be aborted, that would be democrats.

Of course, schools never were controlled by Conservatives so there is also that.

4 lies, great thread.
 

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And only complete morons will see 1/6 as an insurrection attempt. You may be right though, the nation has been dumbed down quite a bit.
the demofks were told and all fell into check.
 
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Liberals want to take all our guns away
Abortion-on-demand and mental health gun control are unfortunately the realities of liberal Democrat policies.
But, Conservatives have nothing better to offer....
We're not looking for a freebie here as conservatives. There's really no substitute for the guns that are rightfully ours. We're willing and able to work and earn and pay our way here, a little pride in our work, whatever we do, not asking for a handout, just that Democrats and liberals and police unions would stop stealing from us.
 

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That is totally false. Nothing you state above is correct. see links I have posted earlier. They can be taken away with ZERO laws being broken.

But here is another just for fun.
BS.
'They can be taken away with ZERO laws being broken'.
That's what I just said.
Typically, a judge (or other judicial official such as a court commissioner) hears the request and then decides whether to issue a preliminary order without holding a hearing or notifying the gun owner. These orders are temporary and last from two to 21 days depending on the state.

Seventeen states and the District of Columbia currently have red flag laws, also referred to as emergency risk protection orders. They allow judges to take guns away from people who are deemed to be a danger to themselves or others.

Then you post someone else's opinion.
 

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Getting worried about 2022 and 2024 already? Democrats should be worried, their policies suck.

p.s. I like the way the OP lies and then doesn't even bother to post bullshit links to try to prove them.

Well. You could try posting links to disprove them. But the links would be from Democrats suck dot com.


It seems the best years for the GDP growth was under Democrats. Carter had better numbers than either Bush.
 

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