The Quality of Education

[Pilate]

Allow me to preface what I'm about to say by reminding everyone that there is no direct correlation between education and intelligence. And that the two are not the same thing.

Now, it would appear that in the present day we here in the United States we're churning out students that are more educated than ever. However, to many people I know, and myself, it seems like these students are becoming less and less intelligent. My question is, do you guys think people are becoming less intelligent? Are there any statistics to support either side? And if you said yes, what do you think is causing this?

 

[turzovka]

Allow me to preface what I'm about to say by reminding everyone that there is no direct correlation between education and intelligence. And that the two are not the same thing.

Now, it would appear that in the present day we here in the United States we're churning out students that are more educated than ever. However, to many people I know, and myself, it seems like these students are becoming less and less intelligent. My question is, do you guys think people are becoming less intelligent? Are there any statistics to support either side? And if you said yes, what do you think is causing this?

I am not sure how one becomes intelligent vs. highly educated? I think effort can bring success even if there is a lack of I.Q. I , myself, have always maintained the highest intelligent and the most educated does nothing to guarantee them being wise. Quite often it has a reverse effect because of ego, etc.

But to your point. This survey seems to point out a real problem with high school kids and college kids totally unprepared for the real world. And you can call it lack of intelligence if you wish. Why are they unprepared? Because they have been indoctrinated into too many bad practices and philosophies --- including being pampered growing up, not being criticized but overly complimented, a feeling of entitlement, exposure to too much entertainment, sex, and ideas of narcissism. A total lack of discipline, of religion, or morals, of a demand for effort in the classrooms. It all makes Americans soft and stupid and lazy.


Survey: Most Profs Find HS Grads Unready for College or Work -- Campus Technology

Neither university faculty nor employers believe that American public high schools are preparing students for the expectations they'll face in college and career. In fact, compared to 2004, the assessment is even more dismal. More than a decade ago, for example, only 28 percent of college instructors stated that schools were doing an adequate job of readying students for what came next after high school. That count is down to 14 percent in 2015. Among employers, 49 percent in 2004 said that schools were adequately preparing students for what they would need for work; in 2015, the count was 29 percent. Part of the challenge, say students themselves, is that their high schools don't set academic expectations high enough. Fifty-four percent said that they were only "somewhat challenged"; 20 percent said it was "easy to slide by."

High schools do a decent job of preparing students for computers and technology, teamwork and verbal communication. The majority of faculty respondents found them at least adequately prepared in those areas.

However, major gaps showed up in students' preparation in multiple other areas:

· Critical thinking (82 percent of instructors found less than half or none of their students prepared);

· Comprehension of complicated materials (80 percent);

· Work and study habits (78 percent);

· Writing and written communication (77 percent and 76 percent, respectively);

· Problem solving (76 percent);

· Conducting research (74percent);

· Math (59 percent); and

· Science (53 percent).