And so it begins - GOP Senator introduces bill to eliminate the Department of Education

[Missouri_Mike]

so, there is no bill for the elimination of income taxes on SS or regular income...

What? A bill about the DoE doesn’t have other shit in it? That’s odd.

 

[alang1216]

I think all of these started out with good intentions. But, when it comes to government, we are dealing with fission. One thing splits into two, two into four, four into eight, well, you get the picture. Before long you have created a behemoth and an out of control chain reaction which cannot be stopped. Trump is trying to stop the chain reaction and stop the fission reactions.

When a good doctor finds cancer in your body he may take out a scalpel but not chain saw.

 

[marvin martian]

You can end it, but you still need an entity to handle monies going to the states and student aid, unless you want to get rid of monies going to the states and student aid.

The department of education doesn't do that now.

 

[Zincwarrior]

The department of education doesn't do that now.

Yes,it does.

 

[Independent thinker]

When a good doctor finds cancer in your body he may take out a scalpel but not chain saw.

Actually, that's not true. A good cancer doctor, when performing surgery, will surgically remove extra layers outside the cancer area as a cautionary measure. Hell, when it comes to breast cancer and other cancers, they remove entire organs instead of just the cancerous area.

 

[alang1216]

Actually, that's not true. A good cancer doctor, when performing surgery, will surgically remove extra layers outside the cancer area as a cautionary measure. Hell, when it comes to breast cancer and other cancers, they remove entire organs instead of just the cancerous area.

Regardless, if my doctor came at me with a chain saw, I'd find another doctor.

 

[pknopp]

I've talked to several public high school teachers here in Virginia and what they tell me is that the DoE is critical in getting resources to schools in poor areas. Without the DoE they say, the disparity between rich and poor school districts will only increase.

Ohio's courts addressed this in state.

We could also pass something requiring all systems to be properly funded without the huge overhead we have now.

All of that could go directly to the schools.

 

[Crepitus]

Eliminating the DOE would probably result in kids being too smart to vote for Democrats.

Dumb enough to vote republican.

You kids have been striving to kill education for decades.

 

[alang1216]

Ohio's courts addressed this in state.

We could also pass something requiring all systems to be properly funded without the huge overhead we have now.

All of that could go directly to the schools.

I don't know the best solution, only that there was a problem. It seems that eliminating one solution should be coupled with another, like the one you suggested. Want to bet that won't happen?

 

[Independent thinker]

Regardless, if my doctor came at me with a chain saw, I'd find another doctor.

Thing is, we are not talking about medicine, we are talking about extremely bloated government bureaucracies who are rife with massive waste.

 

[JGalt]

Dumb enough to vote republican.

You kids have been striving to kill education for decades.

Are we the reason inner-city kids in Chicago and Milwaukee schools are leaving there with the intellectual equivalence of Zippy the Pinhead?

Nope, you folks did that, not us.

 

[pknopp]

I don't know the best solution, only that there was a problem. It seems that eliminating one solution should be coupled with another, like the one you suggested. Want to bet that won't happen?

No, I've already said it won't.

 

[alang1216]

Thing is, we are not talking about medicine, we are talking about extremely bloated government bureaucracies who are rife with massive waste.

It is not the agencies that are the problem, it is the civil service rules that Congress put in place. It is very hard to reward good workers and almost impossible to fire bad ones. If there is massive waste it is in Congressional appropriations process where lobbyists throw money at Congresspersons because that is how they get reelected. Take a chain saw to that money and watch the waste disappear.

 

[Lisa558]

Yeah, I'd like Democrats to list what the department has actually done for the good. Our kids are getting dumber and dumber, learning about DEI and critical race theory and that parents are terrorists and learning nothing about the three "R's".

That is the Democrats’ plan, in order to get kids to hate their country and vote for its destruction.

I found it reassuring that 46% of voters under 30 voted for Trump.

 

[Lisa558]

It is not the agencies that are the problem, it is the civil service rules that Congress put in place. It is very hard to reward good workers and almost impossible to fire bad ones. If there is massive waste it is in Congressional appropriations process where lobbyists throw money at Congresspersons because that is how they get reelected. Take a chain saw to that money and watch the waste disappear.

In government offices, as the fiscal year-end approaches, the “workers” are on the hunt to find ways to spend any remaining funds so as to assure they won’t get cut the next year. The way they throw our money away could make you throw up.

 

[wamose]

The DOE elects Democrats to office and in return they receive extra government money. This causes salaries and tuitions to go up in a similar fashion. And this, boys and girls, is how the DOE created the student loan crisis. DOE greed and lust for power. Disband them. MAGA

 

[Lisa558]

The DOE elects Democrats to office and in return they receive extra government money. This causes salaries and tuitions to go up in a similar fashion. And this, boys and girls, is how the DOE created the student loan crisis. DOE greed and lust for power. Disband them. MAGA

These days, public universities are like resorts - country club amenities, restaurant-level establishments, and beautiful apartments.

Let’s get back to cafeteria-style dining halls and cinderblock dorm rooms with the shared bathroom down the hall. It was a great time of life, and I loved it. There is plenty of time later for restaurants and upscale housing.

 

[Independent thinker]

It is not the agencies that are the problem, it is the civil service rules that Congress put in place. It is very hard to reward good workers and almost impossible to fire bad ones. If there is massive waste it is in Congressional appropriations process where lobbyists throw money at Congresspersons because that is how they get reelected. Take a chain saw to that money and watch the waste disappear.

Congresspersons get re-elected by promising their constituents the moon and delivering. We have 435 in the House and 100 in the Senate, all lobbying for money for their constituents. It is the Congress critters who are the lobbyists.

 

[pknopp]

These days, public universities are like resorts - country club amenities, restaurant-level establishments, and beautiful apartments.

Let’s get back to cafeteria-style dining halls and cinderblock dorm rooms with the shared bathroom down the hall. It was a great time of life, and I loved it. There is plenty of time later for restaurants and upscale housing.

While we are at it, add a cobbler and blacksmith.

 

[Lisa558]

While we are at it, add a cobbler and blacksmith.

See? ^^^ This is the problem. Suggest to a liberal that college students go back to dorm living and a main dining hall in order to bring down the exorbitant costs of higher education, and you get mocked as being old-fashioned.

To liberals, living within one’s means is outdated. That is how Kamala blew through $1 billion in three months and still ended up $20 million in debt.

Nothing wrong with teenagers in college living in dorm rooms.