The Psychology of MAGA

[Nostra]

Or it could be that you’re not too bright, easily lead, and Trump sound so confident in everything says how could he possibly be lying?

Going back to the OP my money is on oppositional behaviour disorder. OBD stems from an inferiority complex, and distrust for all things that you cannot understand.

Trump killed 1.2 million Americans with his field Covid response and you’re voting for him. And then you talk about craven politicians. Trump epitomizes the term “Craven politician”.

People who are in capable of discerning what is good for them are Trump voters. Desperately looking for a “daddy” to lead them to the promised land.

Biden killed more Americans.

What do you say about that Dragonlady ?

 

[Nostra]

It most certainly did happen, and I watched him say it live.

When your only defence is to lie and deny he ever said it, it doesn’t say much for you does it.

Of course, your entire post is so angry and insane. How dare we tell you the truth!

Bring a link to him saying it Dragonlady

Betcha can’t.

 

[Correll]

Very little of that even makes any sense.

Conflict of interest?

WTF..

Playing dumb, common lib tactic.

 

[Crepitus]

So you feel entitled to defraud the taxpayer?

No one has shown that to be happening yet.

Also has nothing to do with my comment.

 

[daveman]

Can I get you a tissue Snowflake?
How bout we get you a Safe Space?

If you proudly wear your MAGA hat in public, be prepared to encounter people who think you are an A Hole

Leftists' whole existence seems to be wrapped around people's emotions.

Other people think I'm an asshole?

So what?

 

[daveman]

Winner, winner, Chicken Dinner

Liz Warren has offered to help
Why won’t Acting President Musk let her?

Exclusive: Warren's Plan for Musk to Cut U.S. Spending

The Senator sent Musk a letter with 30 ideas for how his DOGE commission could cut $2 trillion in U.S. spending.

time.com

Why should anyone trust her?

 

[daveman]

Or it could be that you’re not too bright, easily lead, and Trump sound so confident in everything says how could he possibly be lying?

Going back to the OP my money is on oppositional behaviour disorder. OBD stems from an inferiority complex, and distrust for all things that you cannot understand.

Trump killed 1.2 million Americans with his field Covid response and you’re voting for him. And then you talk about craven politicians. Trump epitomizes the term “Craven politician”.

People who are in capable of discerning what is good for them are Trump voters. Desperately looking for a “daddy” to lead them to the promised land.

Every internet leftist has a degree in psychology.

 

[BackAgain]

I don’t bother to keep count, but it’s amusing to see our pathetic leftards constantly claim that Musk is either the President or the Acting President.

Not persuasive and not meaningful. But they are slavish in their devotion to their talking pointlesses.

 

[BackAgain]

Every internet leftist has a degree in psychology.

Many of them are, themselves, proper subjects for psychiatric testing.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Man of them are themselves proper subjects for psychiatric testing.

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As soon as TDS gets placed in the DSM where it belongs, we'll get started.


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[daveman]

Many of them are, themselves, proper subjects for psychiatric testing.

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Pew Study: White Liberals Disproportionately Suffer From Mental Illness.​

Survey data from a 2020 Pew poll indicates that white liberals disproportionately suffer from mental illness versus their conservative counterparts.


The study, which examined white liberals, moderates, and conservatives, both male and female, found that conservatives were far less likely to be diagnosed with mental health issues than those who identified as either liberal or even “very liberal.”


Young white women suffered the worst.


White women, ages 18-29, who identified as liberal were given a mental health diagnosis from medical professionals at a rate of 56.3%, as compared to 28.4% in moderates and 27.3% in conservatives.

 

[JGalt]

How does changing the name of the Gulf of Mexico make America great?

How does it not make America great?

Obviously you're a "glass is half empty" kinda gal, while I'm a "glass is half full" kinda guy.

 

[BackAgain]

How does changing the name of the Gulf of Mexico make America great?

Does it have to?

 

[Monoculturalist]

Well, you're rude and don't live in reality. And I'm being polite.

Elaborate on what you believe to be the reality of our government and the pharmaceutical industry.

 

[Monoculturalist]

I don't think you being rude and oblivious makes you antisocial. Any more than your fawning devotion to a malevolent narcissist makes you aware.
But the admission your beliefs are driven by hate is illuminating. Because it adds an element of irrationality to them. How else to explain your attitude towards the government, for all the mistakes made, stemming from genuine efforts to save people's lives.
BTW, it's worth noting that "the government" isn't an abstraction. It's largely made up of individual people like you and I trying to do their jobs.
Finally, it's really very odd that you've decided to put your trust in someone who doesn't give a shit about you but has convinced you there's a common bond between you. What do you actually have in common with a billionaire who's a convicted criminal, a serial sexual abuser of women, a cheat, and a liar?

What's irrational is expecting government to be benevolent. The reason I like Trump is because he's attempting to dismantle it. The only "genuine efforts to save people's lives" in government come from first responders, police, and soldiers. Politicians don't really fit that. I'm even including Trump in that. I think Trump's policies are substantially better than his opposition, but I'm not betting on him personally being virtuous. The elected and those with substantial power in bureaucracy must always be viewed with scrutiny. When people in positions of power dismantle the systems used to abuse us, I tend to view them more favorably.

What we really need in this country is a Javier Milei. Trump is about the closest thing to him that we'll get.

The government is certainly made up of individuals, but a lot of those people fall into the trap of believing they are doing good, when they are not. Most evil actions come from people believing they are doing the right thing. Few people are intentionally evil. However, if the results of said actions are evil, then the intention really doesn't matter. In practical terms, they are still minions of evil. That is the essence of most government.

Again, you mistakenly think I supported Trump due to some belief in commonality. I supported him because he keeps the elites busy fighting him instead of oppressing us as much. To be fair, to a small extent, I support him because of how much it triggers people like yourself.

 

[Monoculturalist]

The issue is the joy you all take in trolling.

It did? How?

I call it childish. Real leadership persuades and inspires. Trumpsters just piss in the punch.

Trolling is my guilty pleasure, I'll give you that.

COVID showed that people were willing to wear masks that didn't actually provide protection, take a vaccine that also didn't do any real protection and has instead lead to various long term health issues, and were willing to even side with the government against their neighbors over noncompliance with ridiculous restrictions that accomplished nothing other than the destruction of the economy and businesses. Far too many people sat idly by letting government play favorites by forcing the closure of small businesses while big business had free rein. The same thing happened with all the dipshits that applauded BLM rioters that destroyed small businesses as big business threw billions at BLM's embezzlement scheme.

So yes, my opinion of humanity in general is not particularly positive. Only a small portion of people saw through all of this nonsense. The average human is an emotional sheep. Few people are independent thinkers that are skeptical of government and media. This is precisely why universal suffrage is the biggest mistake of a policy any society can implement. It leads to elections swayed by propaganda and emotional whims. Democracy itself has a lot of flaws, but one with limited suffrage at least has a prayer of functioning. Universal suffrage just turns it into a joke.

Persuasion has its limits. I participate here because there are a few people here that are capable of debating. The vast majority of the public is either too stupid or too brainwashed to be convinced of anything unless it's done by an "approved source." There has been a lot of research done on the human vulnerability of deferring to authority. It's part of what makes humans so dangerous under the wrong leadership. No amount of debating or persuasion will change that.

Our best hope in the long run is something along the lines of Gattaca. With the proper technology, we may find a way to genetically evolve humans into a species that is less emotional, less conformist, and more intelligent. Selective breeding only goes so far, which is why some cultures produce more intelligent offspring, but even intelligence itself is multifaceted. Someone can be very intelligent in terms of traditional IQ while still not understanding human nature, for example.

And of course, a common mistake so many make is conflating education with intelligence. There are millions of people in this country that are highly educated but clueless regarding common sense or critical thinking. By the same token, there are millions that aren't that educated but are very smart in terms of understanding how people and systems work.

 

[Clipper]

If we were to identify ourselves as MAGA and non-MAGA (which includes Americans across the political spectrum), perhaps we can all agree on one thing:

MAGAs appear to get enjoyment -- real enjoyment -- out of seeing non-MAGAs in some kind of distress over MAGA's actions. They cheer on Trump's constant insults and trolling, JD Vance's attacks on our former European allies, reactions to news of the rapid dismantling of the government, the release of violent Capitol criminals. They celebrate it.

So I got to wondering what this is, from a psychological perspective, and I asked Chat GPT (which is pretty freaking amazing if you haven't tried it) "is there a psychological term for a person who enjoys being disliked?"

Here's what I got:

Yes, there are several psychological concepts that could explain why someone might want to be disliked:

1. Counterdependency – A defense mechanism where a person deliberately pushes others away or resists attachment, sometimes by behaving in a way that makes them disliked.
2. Masochistic Personality Traits – Some individuals may have a subconscious desire to create situations where they are rejected or disliked, deriving a sense of validation or control from negative treatment.
3. Rebellious or Oppositional Behavior (Oppositional Defiant Disorder - ODD) – Some people, especially in childhood or adolescence, may act in ways that provoke negative reactions as a way of asserting control or defiance.
4. Self-Sabotaging Behavior – Rooted in low self-esteem or deep-seated beliefs of unworthiness, some individuals may seek out disapproval as a way to confirm negative self-perceptions.
5. Inferiority Complex – A person with an inferiority complex may act in a way that provokes dislike as a means of reinforcing their own negative self-view.
6. Schadenfreude-Seeking (Reverse Narcissism) – Some people enjoy being disliked because it gives them a sense of power or uniqueness, as if they are above social norms or expectations.
7. Martyr Complex – A person with a martyr complex may subconsciously desire rejection or dislike to feel morally superior or to justify a belief that the world is against them.

'Trump is in charge!': MAGA activists push 'hyperpartisanship' and reject compromise

At a conservative conference in Phoenix this week, participants said they were ready to target opponents of Trump's agenda in Washington — including fellow Republicans.

www.nbcnews.com

You're wasting your time trying to analyze scum, because that's what they are. They WANT this Country taken down & demoralized on the world stage because that's what Trump wants. Blow the whole thing up for revenge & let the chips fall where they may.

This is what happens when a lawless criminal sociopath like Trump is elected potus.

Btw, Trump is going to ignore court orders & there isn't a goddam thing anyone can do about it. And he knows it.

 

[Monoculturalist]

Or it could be that you’re not too bright, easily lead, and Trump sound so confident in everything says how could he possibly be lying?

Going back to the OP my money is on oppositional behaviour disorder. OBD stems from an inferiority complex, and distrust for all things that you cannot understand.

Trump killed 1.2 million Americans with his field Covid response and you’re voting for him. And then you talk about craven politicians. Trump epitomizes the term “Craven politician”.

People who are in capable of discerning what is good for them are Trump voters. Desperately looking for a “daddy” to lead them to the promised land.

You and a lot of others on the left really like to fixate on Trump. Contrary to your assumption, my support for him isn't from some devotion to him. Granted, I realize the personality cult you attribute to Trump is probably just projection given the personality cult that Progressives formed around Obama.

I just see Trump as a convenient wrench to throw in the gears of the machine that runs our despicable government.

You can attribute OBD all you want, but I see your behavior and those of much of the left as the all too common deference to authority. You trust the system that propagandizes you daily through media, academia, and government. I don't. It's funny how things have inverted so much from the 60s. The left used to be about counterculture. They used to distrust the establishment. Now that they are the establishment, they unconditionally trust it unless a Republican enters office. Even then, they still trust most of the faceless bureaucrats that form the "resistance" to Trump.

I've been skeptical of the system since long before Trump. I didn't support Bush, for example. I viewed him as a corporate shill that was representative of the war machine. Obama proved to be just like him in that regard. So did Biden.

One of the first indications to me that humans were sheep were their reactions to 9/11. If we believe the official story, terrorists got past our security infrastructure and managed to kill about 5,000 people. What was our reaction to this? Give government more power and have a rather lacking investigation. When government supposedly fucks up that bad, the last thing you should do is give it more power. Yet, we ended up with the expansion of the surveillance state and the professional groper patrol (the TSA).

Trump didn't kill "1.2 million" Americans. That's a retarded take, but I guess I should have expected it. You should work for MSNBC.

 

[FA_Q2]

I just see Trump as a convenient wrench to throw in the gears of the machine that runs our despicable government.

Yes, we know. You like destruction.

And then you wonder why it is that we recognized that you HATE the US. Just like a terrorist does, they have the same goal - tear it down. You are just worse, as it is in internal threat.

You hate the US and openly state it is so. We should treat you and the rest of those haters the same we do terrorists, you are no different.

 

[Monoculturalist]

Yes, we know. You like destruction.

And then you wonder why it is that we recognized that you HATE the US. Just like a terrorist does, they have the same goal - tear it down. You are just worse, as it is in internal threat.

You hate the US and openly state it is so. We should treat you and the rest of those haters the same we do terrorists, you are no different.

You view it as destruction. I view the government itself as a destructive force.

I don't hate the US. I hate the US government, or at least, parts of it. I like the parts of the government that are specifically delineated in the Constitution, at least to the extent that they haven't been fully corrupted by elites. Unfortunately, even this segment of the government has been declining in that regard.

But, you are free to view me as a terrorist. I'm sure the British government viewed the Founders and their supporters as the equivalent of terrorists back in 1776.

Loyalty to nation and loyalty to government are not the same. Progressives often fail to recognize this, because the state is their god.