The problem with homosexuality and Christianity is you have to choose one or the other

[james bond]

howabout you are just a sociopath ...

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having your kind of fun. and everyone loves you. a true christian.

How can I be that when I am just passing on that GOD WARNS the atheists/ags/sinners?

Don't you think a fill-in-the-blank-path would do you with no warning? Furthermore, it's an insult to state that I am THREATENING. Sure, if I was a -path, then It would be threatening and I would carry out the punishment in a heartbeat if I was deemed THE PUNISHER for the USMB and I knew where you lived and the police would hunt the atheists/ags/sinners down! It would be carried out while you're on this forum and then you would hear much screaming of pain, hurt and agony and the occasional deep, dark MWAHAHAHA. There may be HD video w/sound poster. However, that's just fantasy, so NBD.

 

[james bond]

Then how come in identical twins, if one is gay, there's a 40% chance the other is also.....compared to 10% for the rest of the population? (and this includes even if the twins are raised separately.

That sounds like fooey.

 

[james bond]

YOU are not God. Stop talking about God's this or that.



If you think you are doing God's will you will have an interesting conversation on Judgement day.



You expose only yourself. We know you by the fruit you bear.

You're just digging your own grave. First, you are an atheist faither with nothing to back you up. EVIL-ution or whatever science you call it is a LIE. Otherwise, I'd be asking you questions and you'd be chastising me with the answers. Usually, the atheists/ags/sinners just run away.

I have to give Satan credit for eventually have the majority will believe in EVIL-ution including some of the believers. Then, I think Jesus will be born again and come on his white horse and army to conquer the world. Then you and the atheists/ags/sinner will be PUNISHED FOREVER!!! Atheist science is part of the reason why weak-minded are tricked into EVIL-ution.

 

[james bond]

Throw it in a waste paper basket or use it to stabilize a table. That's a more senseful use of the bible than your misuse of our beloved book of the books.

I was patient enough with you, "god". Go your hard way to eternity whenever you will like to go your hard way. But don't tell other people absolute stupid nonsense about the Christian religion, "god".

How can you be a REAL agnostic if you won't consider and do what I said to do with FAITH FIRST?

I have EXPOSED you as the LIBERAL wrongheadness, stubborness and scumbag that you are. It's you who needs to go the hard way to eternity as you missed THE TRUTH and all that which God revealed to us and warned us about.

 

[james bond]

I don’t see where Jesus mentioned homosexuality at all. Got a cite?

Jesus taught a marriage between a man and woman. Plenty in the Bible that you'll ignore. He didn't have to talk about the sexual perversions, filthy disgusting sex habits and lecherous wickedness of fags.

Go ask the gays who do the dirty. They're generally not happy even they're called gays.

You might hate this one. Do you know what GAY stands for? Got AIDS Yet?

 

[BreezeWood]

How can I be that when I am just passing on that GOD WARNS the atheists/ags/sinners?

Don't you think a fill-in-the-blank-path would do you with no warning? Furthermore, it's an insult to state that I am THREATENING. Sure, if I was a -path, then It would be threatening and I would carry out the punishment in a heartbeat if I was deemed THE PUNISHER for the USMB and I knew where you lived and the police would hunt the atheists/ags/sinners down! It would be carried out while you're on this forum and then you would hear much screaming of pain, hurt and agony and the occasional deep, dark MWAHAHAHA. There may be HD video w/sound poster. However, that's just fantasy, so NBD.

because you are a crucifier -

member of the false desert religions that claim tablets from the heavens, etched with 10 commandments that never existed used to persecute and victimize the innocent ... among other countless maladies - you, a sociopath and your chosen religion are responsible for.

 

[james bond]

YOU are not God. Stop talking about God's this or that.



If you think you are doing God's will you will have an interesting conversation on Judgement day.



You expose only yourself. We know you by the fruit you bear.

Dam, you are farked, farked, farked up. Being gay is worse than being liberal like you. You have a near mental illness while being gay prolly is. It would be nice to legalize putting you two cultures out of misery, but it's ILLEGAL.

So, we have these discussion boards and you LIE while I tell the TRUTH from the Bible. If you are gay and think something is wrong and you want to change, get thee to a church and talk with its pastor. Don't talk with SAF and POS like SAF/POS Cardinal Carminative. He can be discarded and you can bet that he's going to the other place due to God's WRATH.

"Their Sexual Proclivities Are Killing Them
By Austin Ruse
Jan. 29, 2016

It is clear from their relatively tiny numbers—only a few million in a total population of 318,000,000—that men who have sex with men (MSM)* are not “everywhere” as MSM insist they are. It is also clear from their sexual activities, particularly related to anal sex, that their sexual practices also set them apart from the normal population.

MSM will continue to insist they are just like everyone else. They will insist they have been with their current lover for ten, twenty, thirty years. But even MSM are beginning to admit that this, too, is nothing more than propaganda. Their sally into marital bliss is a sham and not much more. Some call it the “dirty little secret” of the MSM world, that they want the white picket fence and marital fidelity when what they really want are open relationships where they can have multiple partners often quite anonymously.

MSM have wanted desperately to shield the normal population from the reality of their sordid lives and one reason is they do not want us to know how disease ridden is their “community.” Their sexual proclivities are costing the rest of us billions of dollars a year in direct medical costs and billions more in lost productivity. And they will insist all along that their sexual practices cannot change, should not change, since these practices are a part of who they are.

Independent researcher Dale O’Leary published a hair-raising paper in The Linacre Quarterly two years ago called “The Syndemic of AIDS and sexually transmitted diseases (STD) among MSM” that tells a plethora of uncomfortable truths about MSM.

Note her use of the term “syndemic.” This is beyond both an epidemic and a pandemic. A syndemic is two or more diseases in a population “in which there is some level of positive biological interaction that exacerbates the negative health effects of any or all of the diseases.”
In the world of MSM, it is not just HIV/AIDs, which is still rampant and growing. There are other diseases that tag along, many of which are deadly. In addition to these diseases there are also contributory pathologies such as promiscuity, alcoholism, drug abuse, and violence.

She writes, “In the 1970s, physicians were treating the large number of conditions affecting the lower intestinal tract of MSM under the classification ‘gay bowel syndrome.’ These included viral infections, infectious diarrheal diseases caused by bacteria and parasites, and injuries caused by anal sexual activity.”

MSM will try to convince you that anal sex is clean and does not put you in touch with fecal matter, particularly if you do it right, they say. They really talk like that. You may see this in the comment section below and in the comment sections of various MSM blogs.

O’Leary quotes Randy Shilts who—before he died of AIDs—wrote an influential book about the AIDs crisis called And the Band Played On:
In San Francisco, incidence of the “Gay Bowel Syndrome,” as it was called in medical journals, had increased by 8,000 percent after 1973. Infection with these parasites was a likely effect of anal inter- course, which was apt to put a man in contact with his partner’s fecal matter, and was virtually a certainty through the then-popular practice of rimming, which medical journals politely called oral-anal intercourse.

O’Leary points out how a cornucopia of nasty diseases has also been a point of pride for MSM since it points to their outsider revolutionary status. Among these diseases, then and now, are syphilis, gonorrhea, hepatitis A, B and C, cytomegalovirus, Epstein-Barr virus, human papillomavirus, cancroid, lymphogranuloma venereum, granuloma inguinale, pubic lice, pinworms, scabies, and flea bites. Flea bites?

Did things change with the introduction of HIV/AIDS among MSM? Of course not. You likely know the story. MSM pressure groups resisted any kind of public health interventions that would have stopped or at least slowed the disease that proceeded to mow down generations of young men. MSM refused to close the bath houses where they had multiple anonymous partners in a single evening. They rebuffed calls for routine testing and for partner tracing. The infected ones even argued they had no responsibility to tell future partners they carried a deadly disease.

O’Leary reports, “A 1986 study of MSM in New York City fund that 49.6% had not changed their behavior (Feldman 1986). A 1987 study found that 67% of MSM admitted engaging in anal intercourse without condoms during the previous year.” Note these studies were done after the massive HIV hysteria ginned up by MSM to demonstrate it wasn’t “their” disease but that everyone would get it. This was one of their early and crucial lies that they are like the rest of us.

Ideologues will often argue all we need is more public education on the matter. In fact, as O’Leary says, the problem is not ignorance. We are awash in condoms and in so-called safe-sex advocacy. But sexual buccaneering is part and parcel of who MSM are. As Gabriel Rotello—author of Sexual Ecology: AIDS and the Destiny of Gay Men and founder of OutWeek Magazine—wrote, “sexual brotherhood of promiscuity … any abandonment of that promiscuity would amount to a communal betrayal of gargantuan proportions.”
Rotello also said, “A stranger to gay culture, unaware of the reality of AIDS, might believe from much of the gay press that HIV infection was a sort of elixir that produced high self-esteem, solved long-standing psychological and substance abuse problems, and enhanced physical appearance … creating the subconscious impression that infection—the ‘penalty’ of unsafe sex—is really not so bad after all.”

One massive problem among MSM is promiscuity, and promiscuity on a grand scale. O’Leary writes, “Gay bars, gay bookstores, theaters, certain resort communities, and circuit parties have traditionally provided venues where MSM could engage in various forms of sexual activity with numerous partners.”

In the early ’80s, Center for Disease Control researchers were shocked “by the sheer number of sexual partners reported, typically over 1000.” There is no reason to think such behavior has subsided, particularly since who they are in their own minds is largely defined by what they do. In fact, a column by a young man in New York Magazine a few years ago celebrated his discovery of the easy anonymous sex he found at truck stops.

In the 1970s and ’80s, bathhouses were the scene of bacchanals right from pits of hell. Men could and did engage in anal intercourse under the influence of drugs for hours with multiple anonymous partners. While some of the bathhouses closed, the action shifted to so-called “Circuit” parties, massive fundraisers for AIDS that became little more than drug-and-booze-fueled attended by thousands and even tens of thousands.

With the advent of the Internet, men are now able to meet other sex-minded men on a moments “anywhere, anytime” as the website Manhunt.net announces on its homepage. The site’s homepage image is of two men grappling at a front-door, another two getting it on in an office, and six young men in leather cavorting on a couch.

Manhunt.net is not the only one. There is also a truly vile site called Grindr where men advertise themselves in gruesome detail. Go onto these sites and you can have a quickie in a bathroom of a public park on the way to work … right now.
The introduction of retroviral drugs has made AIDS a chronic rather than a deadly disease so that young MSM maintain the argument that anal sex is their right and due but that it remains without real consequences. This tiny part of the population contributes 63 percent of the new HIV cases in the United States.

But it is not just rampant disease that defines the MSM syndemic. There are also psychological disorders and suicidal ideation. O’Leary reports that “well designed studies with large samples done in the US, New Zealand, UK, and the Netherlands have found that MSM were far more likely to have a history of psychological disorders, suicidal ideation, and substance abuse problems (Fergusson, Horwood, and Beautrais 1999; Herrell et al. 1999; Cochran Mays, and Sullivan 2003; Gilman et al. 2001; Sandfort et al. 2001, 2006; Warner et al. 2004).”

There is also drug abuse, particularly methamphetamine, which for many MSM has become inextricably linked to sex. There is also widespread use of the animal tranquilizer Ketamine, called “Special K,” also “poppers,” various nitrates that are inhaled to heighten the sexual experience and also make anal sex more acceptable. There is an increasing addiction to anabolic muscle-building steroids among MSM in order to make insecure men more appealing to other men in the hyper-yet-phony muscularized MSM culture.
Yet another part of the syndemic is the instance of early childhood sexual abuse that feeds into drug abuse, psychological problems, sexual acting out, and disease acquisition.

O’Leary writes, “Mounting research evidence suggests that men with a history of unwanted sexual activity during childhood are more likely than those without such a history to engage in sexual practices that place them at risk for contracting HIV (Dilorio, Hartwell, and Hansen 2002).” Her paper shows that besides rape in childhood, rape is a regular part of the MSM life.
And the cost of all this runs into the billions of dollars in direct medical costs and billions more in lost productivity. That is another thing they want to hide. Their sexual proclivities are costing us dearly.

No matter what you hear from any MSM you may know, no matter what you hear on TV about how normal they are, no matter what propaganda is rolled out on television about how picket-fence they are, those are simply lies to lull you into a position of acceptance and even celebration.

The awful fact is there are no sunny “gay” uplands. There is only sadness, loneliness, disease, and death.
*MSM (men who have sex with men) is the term used in the medical community when discussing those who otherwise are called gay or homosexual. The useful aspect of this term is that it focuses on behavior and not on identity."

What’s wrong with being “gay”? Here’s what they don’t tell you.

 

[james bond]

because you are a crucifier -

member of the false desert religions that claim tablets from the heavens, etched with 10 commandments that never existed used to persecute and victimize the innocent ... among other countless maladies - you, a sociopath and your chosen religion are responsible for.

Look, I know you're not of great mind, but one can still win in life and the IMPORTANT afterlife by reading and following the Bible. You can get translation. At least, you can understand what I am saying and thus are able to COMPREHEND THE TRUTH. Leave the hellish afterlife for those like Cardinal Carminative's stubborness and wrongheaded thinking.

 

[BreezeWood]

Look, I know you're not of great mind, but one can still win in life and the IMPORTANT afterlife by reading and following the Bible. You can get translation. At least, you can understand what I am saying and thus are able to COMPREHEND THE TRUTH. Leave the hellish afterlife for those like Cardinal Carminative's stubborness and wrongheaded thinking.

we've already provided proof of who follows the 4th century c bible ...

they're found on nearly every street corner after midnight.

 

[james bond]

we've already provided proof of who follows the 4th century c bible ...

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they're found on nearly every street corner after midnight.

If I were you, I bash myself in the head 100x with a sledgehammer and claim lunacy lol.

 

[zaangalewa]

How can you be a REAL agnostic

I am an agnostics and you don't have any idea why an agnostics is an agnostics. Every Christian who says "I believe in god" is not only a believer but also an agnostics. And every atheist who says "It's impossible that god exists, that's why no one should believe in god" is not an agnostics.

if you won't consider and do what I said to do with FAITH FIRST?

You use a superficial formal method on reason of mind manipulation.

I have EXPOSED you as the LIBERAL wrongheadness, stubborness and scumbag that you are.

Sure, "Christian".

It's you who needs to go the hard way to eternity

I did. But god sent me back. And now you are lost. ("God sent me back" means more concrete: god - or better to say something what I call "god", although I do not know what it is - asked me once to do him the favor to die later and I agreed although this is a risk for me.)

as you missed THE TRUTH and all that which God revealed to us and warned us about.

Nice that god warned you. You should listen to him and lose the self which is not your own self, empty phrase spiter.

 

[zaangalewa]

james bond - may it be you are gay? Ever thought about this possibility?

 

[james bond]

I am an agnostics and you don't have any idea why an agnostics is an agnostics. Every Christian who says "I believe in god" is not only a believer but also an agnostics. And every atheist who says "It's impossible that god exists, that's why no one should believe in god" is not an agnostics.



You use a superficial formal method on reason of mind manipulation.



Sure, "Christian".



I did. But god sent me back. And now you are lost. ("God sent me back" means more concrete: god - or better to say something what I call "god", although I do not know what it is - asked me once to do him the favor to die later and I agreed although this is a risk for me.)



Nice that god warned you. You should listen to him and lose the self which is not your own self, empty phrase spiter.

ZOMG. I use no mind manipulation. I'm just telling it like it is as the OP. One can't be a believer without it.

@james bond - may it be you are gay? Ever thought about this possibility?

Homosexuality is an abominable sin according to God and the Bible. Thus, it's about being tempted like A&E being tempted in the Garden of Eden to eat the forbidden fruit. Is this why we end calling them "fruits?"

"The problem with same-sex attraction, or the feeling of “being gay,” is that it is an attraction to something God has forbidden, and any desire for something sinful ultimately has its roots in sin. Our natures have been so infected with sin that what is evil often looks good to us. Sin causes us to see the world and our own actions through a warped perspective. Our thoughts, desires, and dispositions are all affected. Scripture says we are sinners by nature (Romans 5:12). So, same-sex attraction, per se, is not always an active, willful sin, but it springs from the sinful nature. Same-sex attraction is always, on some level, an expression of the flesh, or the fallen nature."

"Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned—" Romans 5:12

Thus, it's something that's not on my list of things to do before death like yours. Nobody is born as gay, there being a gay gene or it's part of natural selection. You and liberal kind have made up so many lies about it that you don't know squat from your arse in the ground lmao.

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

Look, I know you're not of great mind, but one can still win in life and the IMPORTANT afterlife by reading and following the Bible.

Looks to me like you are trying it without reading the Bible. There's a LOT in there that would convict your posts.

You can get translation. At least, you can understand what I am saying and thus are able to COMPREHEND THE TRUTH. Leave the hellish afterlife for those like Cardinal Carminative's stubborness and wrongheaded thinking.

I hope you have a lot of lotion. You seem to be out-onaning Onan on this revenge fantasy.

(Sorry for the BIble reference, you wouldn't understand it).

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

"The problem with same-sex attraction, or the feeling of “being gay,” is that it is an attraction to something God has forbidden,

Is it hard for you daily to avoid the temptations? Sorry to hear that.

and any desire for something sinful ultimately has its roots in sin. Our natures have been so infected with sin that what is evil often looks good to us.

Not all of us fantasize about gay sex.

Thus, it's something that's not on my list of things to do before death like yours.

I don't know...you sound like it's definitely a temptation for you. Stay strong.

Nobody is born as gay,

When did you choose to be straight?

there being a gay gene or it's part of natural selection. You and liberal kind have made up so many lies about it that you don't know squat from your arse in the ground lmao.

Now, don't go tempting yourself....

 

[zaangalewa]

If I were you, I bash myself in the head 100x with a sledgehammer and claim lunacy lol.

And by the way james bond : You are indeed your own measuring stick which will be used from god to measure you. So have a lot of fun with your sledgehammer.

ZOMG. I use no mind manipulation.

You do! You never asked anyone for example why he/she not believes in god. If you would do so and you would get serios answers then you would be much more sheepish, humble and perhasps also thankful to god if you would really believe in him and he would not be only your slave. And perhaps some tears would float from time to time your eyes and cheeks.

I'm just telling it like it is as the OP. One can't be a believer without it.

What I can be or not be is not yours to define, anti-Christian.

Homosexuality is an abominable sin according to God and the Bible.

Homosexuality is an expression which the author Karl Maria Kertbeny use the first tine in the year 1868. In this decade existed also other words which this phenomenon described. In this time of history I had preferred the expression "conträre Sexualempfindung" ... ¿how to translate this? ... "contrary sexual sensation". That you think the bible speaks about youir rotten ideas about homosexuality shows that you do not understand what's written in the bible nor what scientists, biologists, physicians, psychologists and others try to explain.

Thus, it's about being tempted like A&E being tempted in the Garden of Eden to eat the forbidden fruit.

Do you for example know that Eve had not been able to know that it had been "forbidden" to eat the fruit of the recognition of ... let me chose the zoroastrian Persian words ... the recogntion of "aka mainyu" and "pecta mainyu" caused this and our fight here between "asha" and "druj"? Ever thought anything in this context? Or is this context your context although you know nothing about? Then Jesus perhaps did not find you and you should perhaps go and seek him on your own.

Is this why we end calling them "fruits?"

Which "fruits"? The word is "fruit". Not plural but singular.

"The problem with same-sex attraction, or the feeling of “being gay,” is that it is an attraction to something God has forbidden, and any desire for something sinful ultimately has its roots in sin. Our natures have been so infected with sin that what is evil often looks good to us. Sin causes us to see the world and our own actions through a warped perspective. Our thoughts, desires, and dispositions are all affected. Scripture says we are sinners by nature (Romans 5:12). So, same-sex attraction, per se, is not always an active, willful sin, but it springs from the sinful nature. Same-sex attraction is always, on some level, an expression of the flesh, or the fallen nature."

"Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned—" Romans 5:12

I hate it very much how you misuse the bible for your fight for "druj" - for your fight for your lies.

Thus, it's something that's not on my list of things to do before death like yours. Nobody is born as gay, there being a gay gene or it's part of natural selection. You and liberal kind have made up so many lies about it that you don't know squat from your arse in the ground lmao.

Stupid political propaganda and the belief in god are totally different things. Here by the way what Paulus really said in his letter to the Romans in chapter 5. Who has ears to read should try to listen to the own eyes!

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Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God. Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us. For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. For one will scarcely die for a righteous person—though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die — but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life. More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.

Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come. But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man’s trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many. And the free gift is not like the result of that one man’s sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification. For if, because of one man’s trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ. Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men. For as by the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man’s obedience the many will be made righteous. Now the law came in to increase the trespass, but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more, so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also might reign through righteousness leading to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

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[james bond]

Looks to me like you are trying it without reading the Bible. There's a LOT in there that would convict your posts.



I hope you have a lot of lotion. You seem to be out-onaning Onan on this revenge fantasy.

(Sorry for the BIble reference, you wouldn't understand it).

No need for revenge on you Cardinal Twit. It will be taken care of. Why do you call yourself Cardinal anyway?

Is it hard for you daily to avoid the temptations? Sorry to hear that.



Not all of us fantasize about gay sex.


I don't know...you sound like it's definitely a temptation for you. Stay strong.



When did you choose to be straight?



Now, don't go tempting yourself....

I knew it. YOU ARE GAY! Anyone who knows me knows I know how to use queer bait and fag bash.

 

[james bond]

And by the way james bond : You are indeed your own measuring stick which will be used from god to measure you. So have a lot of fun with your sledgehammer.



You do! You never asked anyone for example why he/she not believes in god. If you would do so and you would get serios answers then you would be much more sheepish, humble and perhasps also thankful to god if you would really believe in him and he would not be only your slave. And perhaps some tears would float from time to time your eyes and cheeks.



What I can be or not be is not yours to define, anti-Christian.



Homosexuality is an expression which the author Karl Maria Kertbeny use the first tine in the year 1868. In this decade existed also other words which this phenomenon described. In this time of history I had preferred the expression "conträre Sexualempfindung" ... ¿how to translate this? ... "contrary sexual sensation". That you think the bible speaks about youir rotten ideas about homosexuality shows that you do not understand what's written in the bible nor what scientists, biologists, physicians, psychologists and others try to explain.



Do you for example know that Eve had not been able to know that it had been "forbidden" to eat the fruit of the recognition of ... let me chose the zoroastrian Persian words ... the recogntion of "aka mainyu" and "pecta mainyu" caused this and our fight here between "asha" and "druj"? Ever thought anything in this context? Or is this context your context although you know nothing about? Then Jesus perhaps did not find you and you should perhaps go and seek him on your own.



Which "fruits"? The word is "fruit". Not plural but singular.



I hate it very much how you misuse the bible for your fight for "druj" - for your fight for your lies.



Stupid political propaganda and the belief in god are totally different things. Here by the way what Paulus really said in his letter to the Romans in chapter 5. Who has ears to read should try to listen to the own eyes!

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Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God. Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us. For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. For one will scarcely die for a righteous person—though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die — but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life. More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.

Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come. But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man’s trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many. And the free gift is not like the result of that one man’s sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification. For if, because of one man’s trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ. Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men. For as by the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man’s obedience the many will be made righteous. Now the law came in to increase the trespass, but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more, so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also might reign through righteousness leading to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

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Holy guacamole. I have no idea what you are trying to say? Do you even go to church on Sundays (sarcasm)?

 

[Clyde 154]

I was at an author event and a lesbian read to us all the passages of the Bible that explicitly condemn homosexuality.

It made me realize that one who lives the homosexual lifestyle must reject Christianity or must, at the very least, admit he is a sinner in need of forgiveness.

But it seems that many homosexuals are unwilling to do either. They demand Christian churches go against explicit Biblical teachings and accept homosexuality. This is creating a crisis that is affecting all the Christian churches.

My prediction is this: Soon, every Christian church except the Catholic Church will cave to the homosexuals.

That is the basis for Christianity.........God wants a free will decision based upon the information provided in the Holy Spirit inspired words of Apostles of Christ who recorded this information for future generations.....called the New Testament of Christ Jesus. Its "your choice"..........you must freely decide to work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. Its individualism at its root. No one can save you but yourself when you freely accept the grace provided by the sacrificial cross....with conditions detailed within the revelations of God. Its all about LOVE if you love God more than yourself you will freely choose to follow the commandments of Christ Jesus.

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

No need for revenge on you Cardinal Twit. It will be taken care of. Why do you call yourself Cardinal anyway?

So that folks like you will really dig into your revenge fantasies using your patented "REVENGE GOD".

I knew it. YOU ARE GAY! Anyone who knows me knows I know how to use queer bait and fag bash.

Is that what Jesus wants you to do in your "witness"?