The Planet is Heating Up Faster than Models Predict -- James Hansen

[Crick]

So climate models are flawed and wrong again?

Once in a while you might try actually reading a linked article. Hansen's study concludes that climate sensitivity is higher than currently held.

I remember in past debates where these models where transferred into the past and programmed with the historical data. Then they had to forward predict up to today's date, and....., it was miles away from current conditions. And now the models are wrong again. Hmm, these scientists are as much use as tits on a fish, but gullibles believe them.

Hindcasting - testing ones model and the inputs you feed it - is standard practice in climate modeling. Your contention here that they consistently failed is simply a lie.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Once in a while you might try actually reading a linked article. Hansen's study concludes that climate sensitivity is higher than currently held.

Hindcasting - testing ones model and the inputs you feed it - is standard practice in climate modeling. Your contention here that they consistently failed is simply a lie.

They failed the past, they failed the present, they failed the future. Better off sticking ya finger in the air and see which way the wind is blowing.

 

[Crick]

They failed the past, they failed the present, they failed the future. Better off sticking ya finger in the air and see which way the wind is blowing.

Give your day to day life a look and see how much mainstream science you take as absolute fact. Claiming you don't is a lie.

 

[elektra]

Of course we are heating up, green energy requires we cut down forests by the square mile and replace existing energy with inefficient solar and wind, thus manufacturing by heavy industry has increased be an un-calculable amount

Green energy must destroy the earth to save the earth

 

[Flash]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/02/climate/the-planet-is-heating-up-faster-than-predicted-says-scientist-who-first-warned-the-world-about-climate-change/index.html

James Hansen whose 1988 testimony before Congress was the first many had heard of global warming, has co-published a study in which he claims that the globe is warming faster than models predict primarily because of reductions in aerosol emissions from China and internationally from shipping. Michael Mann disagrees, noting that the truth is bad enough. Hansen says the 1.5C threshold is dead as a doornail and keeping us withing 2C by 2050 will require concerted effort. Hansen suggests we consider the use of solar geoengineering though several other experts warn that such a strategy poses severe dangers. The article notes that June, July, August, September and October of this year have all set monthly global temperature records

Liar!

This Hansen yoyo is a former NASA climate scientist and NASA has been caught several times fabricating climate change data. The sonofbitch is so fucking stupid about things like this that he got arrested once illegally protesting against the Keystone pipeline. In fact he has been arrested three times for being an Environmental Wacko nutcase.

Only idiots like you believe the dipshit. He has a loud Environmental Wacko mouth and that is about it. He is a Preacher in that stupid AGW religion confused dumbasses like you worship in. You need to pull your head out of your ass.

Climate change is real. Been going for billions of years. AGW is bullshit.

 

[Crick]

Liar!

When you call someone a liar you need to demonstrate that they have knowingly told a falsehood. You have failed to do so.

This Hansen yoyo is a former NASA climate scientist

James Hansen was trained in physics and astronomy in the space science program of James Van Allen at the University of Iowa. He obtained a B.A. in physics and mathematics with highest distinction in 1963, an M.S. in astronomy in 1965 and a Ph.D. in physics in 1967, all three degrees from the University of Iowa. He participated in the NASA graduate traineeship from 1962 to 1966 and, at the same time, between 1965 and 1966, he was a visiting student at the Institute of Astrophysics at Kyoto University and in the department of astronomy at the University of Tokyo. He then began work at the Goddard Institute for Space Studies in 1967. From 1981 to 2013 he was the director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies. At present he is adjunct professor directing the Program on Climate Science, Awareness and Solutions of the Earth Institute at Columbia University.

and NASA has been caught several times fabricating climate change data.

Let's see a link proving that.

The sonofbitch is so fucking stupid about things like this that he got arrested once illegally protesting against the Keystone pipeline.

Stupid? What exactly are YOUR qualifications that you think yourself capable of judging the man? Did you graduate high school?

In fact he has been arrested three times for being an Environmental Wacko nutcase.

That says nothing about his intellect but it does about his commitment.

Only idiots like you believe the dipshit.

NASA believed him completely for 37 years.

He has a loud Environmental Wacko mouth and that is about it.

What's the matter? Haven't you been invited to testify before Congress?

He is a Preacher in that stupid AGW religion confused dumbasses like you worship in. You need to pull your head out of your ass.

I think my head is precisely where it ought to be. Yours, on the other hand...

Climate change is real.

No one ever said otherwise. You, apparently, didn't notice that.

Been going for billions of years.

No one ever said otherwise. You, apparently, didn't notice that.

AGW is bullshit.

The only thing you've demonstrated here is a strong correlation between rejecting AGW and blatant, willful ignorance.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Give your day to day life a look and see how much mainstream science you take as absolute fact. Claiming you don't is a lie.

Fact : There are two sexes. But there you go.

 

[Lastamender]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/02/climate/the-planet-is-heating-up-faster-than-predicted-says-scientist-who-first-warned-the-world-about-climate-change/index.html

James Hansen whose 1988 testimony before Congress was the first many had heard of global warming, has co-published a study in which he claims that the globe is warming faster than models predict primarily because of reductions in aerosol emissions from China and internationally from shipping. Michael Mann disagrees, noting that the truth is bad enough. Hansen says the 1.5C threshold is dead as a doornail and keeping us withing 2C by 2050 will require concerted effort. Hansen suggests we consider the use of solar geoengineering though several other experts warn that such a strategy poses severe dangers. The article notes that June, July, August, September and October of this year have all set monthly global temperature records

 

[Flash]

When you call someone a liar you need to demonstrate that they have knowingly told a falsehood. You have failed to do so.

James Hansen was trained in physics and astronomy in the space science program of James Van Allen at the University of Iowa. He obtained a B.A. in physics and mathematics with highest distinction in 1963, an M.S. in astronomy in 1965 and a Ph.D. in physics in 1967, all three degrees from the University of Iowa. He participated in the NASA graduate traineeship from 1962 to 1966 and, at the same time, between 1965 and 1966, he was a visiting student at the Institute of Astrophysics at Kyoto University and in the department of astronomy at the University of Tokyo. He then began work at the Goddard Institute for Space Studies in 1967. From 1981 to 2013 he was the director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies. At present he is adjunct professor directing the Program on Climate Science, Awareness and Solutions of the Earth Institute at Columbia University.

Let's see a link proving that.

Stupid? What exactly are YOUR qualifications that you think yourself capable of judging the man? Did you graduate high school?

That says nothing about his intellect but it does about his commitment.

NASA believed him completely for 37 years.

What's the matter? Haven't you been invited to testify before Congress?

I think my head is precisely where it ought to be. Yours, on the other hand...

No one ever said otherwise. You, apparently, didn't notice that.

No one ever said otherwise. You, apparently, didn't notice that.

The only thing you've demonstrated here is a strong correlation between rejecting AGW and blatant, willful ignorance.

Being an loud mouth idiot Environment Wacko doesn't mean there is any credibility to your stupid scam.

 

[ding]

Being an loud mouth idiot Environment Wacko doesn't mean there is any credibility to your stupid scam.

When the AMOC collapses he's going to change his tune that he knew it was a scam all along.

 

[Flash]

When the AMOC collapses he's going to change his tune that he knew it was a scam all along.

This AGW bullshit is a religion to these Environmental Wackos. No amount of real science is ever going to destroy their "Faith".

 

[EMH]

James Hansen is the Dr. Fauci of the Co2 Fraud.

 

[Crick]

Fact : There are two sexes. But there you go.

Do you live in a house? Use electricity for lighting, air conditioning, cooking? You appear to have a computer. Drive a car? Fly in airplanes now and then? Go to doctors? Take medicine or undergo imaging and surgery? What do you do for a job? Any manufacturing involved? Chemistry?

Anyone living outside of a cave these days has NO basis claiming they don't trust mainstream science. That makes you just another AGW denying LIAR.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Do you live in a house? Use electricity for lighting, air conditioning, cooking? You appear to have a computer. Drive a car? Fly in airplanes now and then? Go to doctors? Take medicine or undergo imaging and surgery? What do you do for a job? Any manufacturing involved? Chemistry?

Anyone living outside of a cave these days has NO basis claiming they don't trust mainstream science. That makes you just another AGW denying LIAR.

Thank you for the bizarre post.

You trust science, are there two sexes?

 

[luiza]

What makes you say that?

A political appointee who blatantly fiddled the temperature records .
The Clown who said repeatedly that Obummer had only four years to save the planet .
Disowned by his former NASA supervisor.

And though a bit "rich" for this chat site , NASA has long been known ( by the cognoscenti ) to have been targeted by the Fourth Reich / Deep State for influence and control , and as a direct result stemming from Operation Paper Clip .

Actually DYOR and get some shocks of your life , imho

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/02/climate/the-planet-is-heating-up-faster-than-predicted-says-scientist-who-first-warned-the-world-about-climate-change/index.html

James Hansen whose 1988 testimony before Congress was the first many had heard of global warming, has co-published a study in which he claims that the globe is warming faster than models predict primarily because of reductions in aerosol emissions from China and internationally from shipping. Michael Mann disagrees, noting that the truth is bad enough. Hansen says the 1.5C threshold is dead as a doornail and keeping us withing 2C by 2050 will require concerted effort. Hansen suggests we consider the use of solar geoengineering though several other experts warn that such a strategy poses severe dangers. The article notes that June, July, August, September and October of this year have all set monthly global temperature records

Nah it ain't
And even if it was it because you're not eating crickets,freezing in the winter, and riding public transportation

 

[CrusaderFrank]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/02/climate/the-planet-is-heating-up-faster-than-predicted-says-scientist-who-first-warned-the-world-about-climate-change/index.html

James Hansen whose 1988 testimony before Congress was the first many had heard of global warming, has co-published a study in which he claims that the globe is warming faster than models predict primarily because of reductions in aerosol emissions from China and internationally from shipping. Michael Mann disagrees, noting that the truth is bad enough. Hansen says the 1.5C threshold is dead as a doornail and keeping us withing 2C by 2050 will require concerted effort. Hansen suggests we consider the use of solar geoengineering though several other experts warn that such a strategy poses severe dangers. The article notes that June, July, August, September and October of this year have all set monthly global temperature records

So we agree that to save the planet we have to shut the Chinese 2X American CO2 ASAP

 

[CrusaderFrank]

A political appointee who blatantly fiddled the temperature records .
The Clown who said repeatedly that Obummer had only four years to save the planet .
Disowned by his former NASA supervisor.

And though a bit "rich" for this chat site , NASA has long been known ( by the cognoscenti ) to have been targeted by the Fourth Reich / Deep State for influence and control , and as a direct result stemming from Operation Paper Clip .

Actually DYOR and get some shocks of your life , imho

Never
A
Straight
Answer

 

[CrusaderFrank]

His employers don't seem to think so. Why do you?

What makes you say that?

Please demonstrate that the OP is repeating and spreading pseudo science. Or withdraw this accusation.

It is not "gullible" to believe widely-accepted mainstream science. The gullible are the people taken in by fossil fuel shills to reject it.

Consensus =/= Science

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You mean when CO2 was a function of temperature?

The real Inconvenient Truth, CO2 lags temperatures