The Planet is Heating Up Faster than Models Predict -- James Hansen

[Crick]

Do you even realize that you are citing people like Mann and Hansen? Those bitches who are proven fraudsters.

Do you realize you are propagating a lie?

Why do you repeatedly cite thoroughly debunked pseudo-scientists?

Pseudo-scientists?

James Hansen is an American adjunct professor directing the Program on Climate Science, Awareness and Solutions of the Earth Institute at Columbia University. From 1981 to 2013, he was the director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York City, a part of the Goddard Space Flight Center.

Michael Evan Mann is an American climatologist and geophysicist. He graduated with honors from Berkely with degrees in both applied physics and mathematics. He earned two Masters and a PhD in physics from Yale. He taught at the University of Virginia before leaving to become the director of the Center for Science, Sustainability & the Media at the University of Pennsylvania.

Not your typical pseudo-scientist CV.

Is your ego so fragile that you are afraid to admit that they fooled you?

God are you stupid. And based on previous posts, a violent bigot.

 

[skookerasbil]

But the OP fails to mention...

Not due to CO2...dOy.

Three Graphs That Show There Is No "Climate Crisis" | ZeroHedge

 

[skookerasbil]

I'm laughing....

I come in this forum now only for a cup of coffee anymore...spend 10 minutes and train wreck a month of Cricks efforts

Bah Bah Booey

 

[Muhammed]

Do you realize you are propagating a lie?

Pseudo-scientists?

James Hansen is an American adjunct professor directing the Program on Climate Science, Awareness and Solutions of the Earth Institute at Columbia University. From 1981 to 2013, he was the director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York City, a part of the Goddard Space Flight Center.

Michael Evan Mann is an American climatologist and geophysicist. He graduated with honors from Berkely with degrees in both applied physics and mathematics. He earned two Masters and a PhD in physics from Yale. He taught at the University of Virginia before leaving to become the director of the Center for Science, Sustainability & the Media at the University of Pennsylvania.

Not your typical pseudo-scientist CV.

God are you stupid. And based on previous posts, a violent bigot.

There you go pretending that climategate never fucking happened again.

WTF is wrong with you?

 

[Crick]

There you go pretending that climategate never fucking happened again.

Climategate was a complete fabrication by your side but in any case, it did not involve James Hansen at all and Mike's Nature trick was simply a method for smoothly mating proxy and instrument data. You've heard the facts a hundred times but you reject them because you suffer from a fucking terminal case of confirmation bias.

WTF is wrong with you?

You mean why do I spend time debating with idiots like you? Because someone with an ounce of intelligence and a few questions might be listening.

 

[jc456]

He didn't refuse to release it. He refused to release it to unqualified individuals who only wanted it to facilitate character assassination. Those data were released to a large number of other researchers.

That's fking hilarious. hahahaahahahahahahaahahaahahahahahaha did you write that with a straight face? hahahahahahahah OMG. dude dudette whatever the fk you are, your ethics suck!!!!!

 

[jc456]

Just like Rudy Giuliani with Ruby Freeman and Wandrea Moss, conservative AGW deniers have accused Mann of all manner of wrongdoing with no evidence or proof whatsoever. That he should act to defend himself and his work from assholes like YOU is fine with me.

his refusal to present his data in a court of law that requested him to do so, speaks volumes punk!!!!!! No ethics in your world. I get it.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Just like Rudy Giuliani with Ruby Freeman and Wandrea Moss, conservative AGW deniers have accused Mann of all manner of wrongdoing with no evidence or proof whatsoever. That he should act to defend himself and his work from assholes like YOU is fine with me.

He should at least pay the legal judgments he owes due to his "defense".

 

[jc456]

Climategate was a complete fabrication by your side but in any case, it did not involve James Hansen at all and

Are you suggesting that those emails were made up by someone?

Mike's Nature trick was simply a method for smoothly mating proxy and instrument data

made up, that was simple. You have no ethics do you?

 

[Crick]

Supreme Court allows climate scientist’s defamation case to proceed

The Supreme Court declined to hear defendant’s appeal.

arstechnica.com

Climate Scientist Cleared of Altering Data (Published 2010)

Michael E. Mann, who was accused of manipulating research findings on climate science, was cleared of that charge by his university.

www.nytimes.com

JDOhio: Was Michael Mann Exonerated by the Post-Climategate Investigations as Was Decided by the DC Court of Appeals?

SM: This article by JD Ohio was submitted and briefly online on February 23, 2018, but, for some reason that I don’t recall, was taken offline. In any event, as Mann’s ancient libel cas…

climateaudit.org

Virginia court rejects sceptic's bid for climate science emails

Campaign by attorney general, Ken Cuccinelli, to gain access to Michael Mann's material, is dismissed by state supreme court

www.theguardian.com

Federal Investigators Clear Climate Scientist, Again

The Inspector General of the National Science Foundation has closed its investigation into climatologist Michael Mann after failing to find any evidence of misconduct

www.scientificamerican.com

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/25/politics/supreme-court-climate-scientist-michael-mann-national-review/index.html

And ChatGPT's explanation

Michael Mann, a climatologist, created the "hockey stick" model, which is a graph that shows the temperature of the Earth over the last 1,000 years. The graph shows that the Earth's temperature has been relatively stable for most of that time, but has increased sharply in the last century.Mann has been involved in several legal disputes related to the release of his research data, including one in which he was subpoenaed to release his data in a court of law. Mann has argued that releasing his data would reveal confidential information about his research methods, and that it would also be a burden for him to collect and release all of the data. Additionally, Mann has stated that his data has been subject to multiple independent reviews and has been found to be robust and reliable.It is important to note that the release of research data is a complex issue and there are valid reasons why researchers may choose not to release all of their data. However, it is also important to ensure that the scientific process is transparent and that the data is subject to independent review.

 

[jc456]

Mann has argued that releasing his data would reveal confidential information about his research methods

hahahahahahaahahahaha... in other words, his made-up algorithm. We already know it is.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Climategate was a complete fabrication by your side but in any case, it did not involve James Hansen at all and Mike's Nature trick was simply a method for smoothly mating proxy and instrument data. You've heard the facts a hundred times but you reject them because you suffer from a fucking terminal case of confirmation bias.

You mean why do I spend time debating with idiots like you? Because someone with an ounce of intelligence and a few questions might be listening.

Mike's Nature trick was simply a method for smoothly mating proxy and instrument data.

It was lying.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Supreme Court allows climate scientist’s defamation case to proceed

The Supreme Court declined to hear defendant’s appeal.

arstechnica.com

Climate Scientist Cleared of Altering Data (Published 2010)

Michael E. Mann, who was accused of manipulating research findings on climate science, was cleared of that charge by his university.

www.nytimes.com

JDOhio: Was Michael Mann Exonerated by the Post-Climategate Investigations as Was Decided by the DC Court of Appeals?

SM: This article by JD Ohio was submitted and briefly online on February 23, 2018, but, for some reason that I don’t recall, was taken offline. In any event, as Mann’s ancient libel cas…

climateaudit.org

Virginia court rejects sceptic's bid for climate science emails

Campaign by attorney general, Ken Cuccinelli, to gain access to Michael Mann's material, is dismissed by state supreme court

www.theguardian.com

Federal Investigators Clear Climate Scientist, Again

The Inspector General of the National Science Foundation has closed its investigation into climatologist Michael Mann after failing to find any evidence of misconduct

www.scientificamerican.com

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/25/politics/supreme-court-climate-scientist-michael-mann-national-review/index.html

And ChatGPT's explanation

Michael Mann, a climatologist, created the "hockey stick" model, which is a graph that shows the temperature of the Earth over the last 1,000 years. The graph shows that the Earth's temperature has been relatively stable for most of that time, but has increased sharply in the last century.Mann has been involved in several legal disputes related to the release of his research data, including one in which he was subpoenaed to release his data in a court of law. Mann has argued that releasing his data would reveal confidential information about his research methods, and that it would also be a burden for him to collect and release all of the data. Additionally, Mann has stated that his data has been subject to multiple independent reviews and has been found to be robust and reliable.It is important to note that the release of research data is a complex issue and there are valid reasons why researchers may choose not to release all of their data. However, it is also important to ensure that the scientific process is transparent and that the data is subject to independent review.

Michael Mann, accused of molesting the data and suppressing AGW dissenters was cleared of molesting the data and suppressing AGW dissenters by the university that paid him to molest the data and suppress the AGW dissenters.


This isn't Mann's only lawsuit to see recent action, by the way. He had a similar suit in Canadian court against retired-professor-turned-blogger Tim Ball. In late August, a judge granted Ball's request to dismiss the case on the grounds of delay—a rule judges can apply to cases that have not significantly advanced for several years.

Tim Ball? Isn't that the guy Mann sued in British Columbia? Isn't that the case the British Columbia Supreme Court dismissed with prejudice? The case in which they awarded Tim Ball legal fees, because Mann stalled and stalled and dragged out the case instead of providing his evidence? Doesn't he still owe Tim Ball six-figures in legal fees?

What a twat.

Mann has argued that releasing his data would reveal confidential information about his research methods, and that it would also be a burden for him to collect and release all of the data.

It would reveal his fraud. Well, at least they can't take way his Nobel Prize.

 

[Muhammed]

Mike's Nature trick was simply a method for smoothly mating proxy and instrument data.

It was lying.

More specifically, it was an all too common example of confirmation bias.

It is contrary to scientific method when you cherry pick the data that confirms your pre-supposed hypothesis and stupidly hide the inconvenient data that does not support that hypothesis.

That is what they were hiding.

It's fraud. They need to be prosecuted. It does not matter that it was back in the 90s because fraud has no statute of limitations.

 

[Crick]

More specifically, it was an all too common example of confirmation bias.

It is contrary to scientific method when you cherry pick the data that confirms your pre-supposed hypothesis and stupidly hide the inconvenient data that does not support that hypothesis.

That is what they were hiding.

It's fraud. They need to be prosecuted. It does not matter that it was back in the 90s because fraud has no statute of limitations.

Do you have any evidence of cherry-picking or hiding "inconvenient data"?

 

[Muhammed]

Do you have any evidence of cherry-picking or hiding "inconvenient data"?

Yes. The emails were leaked over a decade ago, moron.

 

[Crick]

Yes. The emails were leaked over a decade ago, moron.

Show us evidence of cherry-picking and hiding inconvenient data.

 

[Muhammed]

Show us evidence of cherry-picking and hiding inconvenient data.

What the fuck do you think they were hiding, dumbass?

 

[Crick]

What the fuck do you think they were hiding, dumbass?

Depending on to which stolen email you refer, they were either dealing with a change in the relationship between one region's tree ring width and temperature or the smooth and statistically valid means of joining of proxy and instrumental data. What makes you think it was anything else?

 

[Cellblock2429]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/02/climate/the-planet-is-heating-up-faster-than-predicted-says-scientist-who-first-warned-the-world-about-climate-change/index.html

James Hansen whose 1988 testimony before Congress was the first many had heard of global warming, has co-published a study in which he claims that the globe is warming faster than models predict primarily because of reductions in aerosol emissions from China and internationally from shipping. Michael Mann disagrees, noting that the truth is bad enough. Hansen says the 1.5C threshold is dead as a doornail and keeping us withing 2C by 2050 will require concerted effort. Hansen suggests we consider the use of solar geoengineering though several other experts warn that such a strategy poses severe dangers. The article notes that June, July, August, September and October of this year have all set monthly global temperature records

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