The Overlap between antisemitism and anti-Zionism

The more l think about it, l believe that the Gaza exit 20 years ago backfired. I think it ultimately paved the way for the Hamas-led Oct. 7, 2023, attack on Israel.

Those people don’t think like us, as the woke armchair warriors fantasise they do. They see efforts for peace and compromise as weakness.
Definitely. Israel bent over backwards to accommodate the very people who wanted them dead and exited the region. So what did it get them? Recognition of the extent to which the Israelis go to “make nice” with the Gazans? Of course not. Antisemites continued to call Gaza “occupied territory,” and the Islamic hate for Israel culminated in 10/7.

Israel has learned its lesson and will not be kind to its enemies again.
 
I’d like to think so…..but…..

Will they ever learn?
I think this time, yes. The Oct 7 massacre was the worst since the Holocaust. And the way they tortured innocent Jewish babies and toddlers to death - allowing their mothers to watch before the savages tortured them to death as well - showed that the Islamic terrorists have devolved into creatures not fully human.
 
At the top of this subforum is a moderator announcement that opposition to Israel’s actions and hatred of Jews are two separate issues. While that certainly can be the case when criticism of Israel is specific and not exemplified by double standards or blood libel, very often criticism of Israel is indeed a cover for antisemitism, and the overlap is sometimes subtle and sometimes blatant:

1) We have posters who insist that their utter contempt for Israel is unrelated to dislike for Jews, and then in the very same post (or one that follows) refer to Netanyahu as “a Jewish bully” or make reference to “the Jewish terrorists.” If their hate for Israel is unrelated to Jews, why then identify them by their Jewish religion?

2) Similarly, where we have had active pro-Palestinian anti-Israel groups on college campuses, we have had chants of “Death to Jews!,” bullying and assaulting Jews, and even establishment of “No Jew Zones.” Clearly, there is an overlap between being against Israel and being against Jews.

3) Perhaps more subtlely, there is a tendency to use the descriptor “Zionist” in a broad and hateful way - such as “the evil Zionists” - when a Zionist is simply someone who supports the right of Israel to exist. Most Jews do, and many Christians. The word has recently taken on a negative connotation and has become a way to spew venom about Jews without saying the word.

4) Finally, the double standards applied to Israel when truly barbaric countries are never even mentioned is also a sign that hostility toward Jews is driving the criticism. This was one of Sharansky’s Three D’s of antisemitism.

To summarize, criticism of specific Israeli action (“Netanyahu is being too aggressive”) is not antisemitic while broad brush contempt using code words or lies (“those evil Zionists control the world!” or “the Zionist terrorists are committing genocide”) is.

The issue is quite complex, and the two very often overlap. The attached explains it in more detail.



LOL@ you, but you and I already had a conversation.

I visit forums all over the internet, and there is always a whiner like you.

You had all the Wash DC beltway advantages, but you squandered them. We, as Jews, have disproportionate representation in many fields: medical, legal, media, etc. I see this as a good thing, but you see it as a bad thing. Why? Because you squandered all your opportunity.

You never made something of yourself, and became a freelancer. An independent contractor. That is why you rant against people in jobs who have paid vacations and sick days. You don’t even have that.

The upshot is your jealousy. You rant against successful Jews. You are a failed Jew. You are self-loathing, which makes you the quintessential anti-Semite.
 
LOL@ you, but you and I already had a conversation.

I visit forums all over the internet, and there is always a whiner like you.

You had all the Wash DC beltway advantages, but you squandered them. We, as Jews, have disproportionate representation in many fields: medical, legal, media, etc. I see this as a good thing, but you see it as a bad thing. Why? Because you squandered all your opportunity.

You never made something of yourself, and became a freelancer. An independent contractor. That is why you rant against people in jobs who have paid vacations and sick days. You don’t even have that.

The upshot is your jealousy. You rant against successful Jews. You are a failed Jew. You are self-loathing, which makes you the quintessential anti-Semite.
Amazing how this Jew-hater ^^^ rants and raves against a Jewish woman with a successful consulting practice - and making up all sorts of lies about a complete stranger. He’s come up with a new insult: “a failed Jew.”

Go away, you sock.
 
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Amazing how this Jew-hater ^^^ rants and raves against a Jewish woman with a successful consulting practice - and making up all sorts of lies about a complete stranger. He’s come up with a new insult: “a failed Jew.”

Go away, you sock.
Looks like I hit a nerve, you Jew hater. lol

I already asked what field you worked and how much you made, but you declined to answer. Yes, you are a failed Jew, which is why you hate successful Jews.
 
Looks like I hit a nerve, you Jew hater. lol

I already asked what field you worked and how much you made, but you declined to answer. Yes, you are a failed Jew, which is why you hate successful Jews.
You honestly think I’m going to tell a stranger what I earned? Let’s say it’s enough for a townhouse worth almost $900,000, multiple international trips, and a life of theater and fine restaurants - along with very generous donations to worthy causes.
 
You honestly think I’m going to tell a stranger what I earned? Let’s say it’s enough for a townhouse worth almost $900,000, multiple international trips, and a life of theater and fine restaurants - along with very generous donations to worthy causes.
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You spent all your time in our thread bitching about such people and your co-workers--the lavish vacations, the Trader Joe's, the eating out--and now you're suddenly one of them! Oh good one!
 
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You spent all your time in our thread bitching about such people and your co-workers--the lavish vacations, the Trader Joe's, the eating out--and now you're suddenly one of them! Oh good one!
No….those were the GOVERNMENT WORKERS in the middle of a workday….on the taxpayers’ dime. You’ll really so eager to argue with a Jew you can’t even keep facts straight.

BTW, you’ve been reported for your nasty and ridiculous signature line.
 
No….those were the GOVERNMENT WORKERS in the middle of a workday….on the taxpayers’ dime. You’ll really so eager to argue with a Jew you can’t even keep facts straight.

BTW, you’ve been reported for your nasty and ridiculous signature line.
No, you were the gov worker. You got fired--I'm guessing for running your big mouth. You were bitter because you were passed over by people who were actually competent.

You then could not find another job, so you became "self-employed." Ya know, that is code for someone who is unemployed or underemployed.
 
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No, you were the gov worker. You got fired--I'm guessing for running your big mouth. You were bitter because you were passed over by people who were actually competent.

You then could not find another job, so you became "self-employed." Ya know, that is code for someone who is unemployed or underemployed.
You know nothing about me. You just like tormenting me because you get off annoying Jews.

Not playing anymore. Find another Jew to taunt.
 
Gold Something is yet another sock of the Hondo poster.
 
You know nothing about me. You just like tormenting me because you get off annoying Jews.

Not playing anymore. Find another Jew to taunt.
Tormenting you? lol But you keep engaging me. You also keep bragging. Everyone knows about you.
 
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