The number of people who go bankrupt every year because of...

[Anathema]

Well, what are you waiting for?

Why would I move? I LIKE the American private medical insurance system. So why would I move somewhere with socialized medicine?

 

[initforme]

Maybe employers need to kick in more for their employees healthcare.

 

[el midgetron]

Medical bills...

1. Norway - 0
2. UK - 0
3. France - 0
4. Spain - 0
5. Portugal - 0
6. Denmark - 0
7. Australia - 0
8. Iceland - 0
9. Italy - 0
10. Finland - 0
11. Ireland - 0
12. Germany - 0
13. Netherlands - 0
14. Sweden - 0
15. Japan - 0
16. Canada - 0
17. United States - 643k+

Related Source: https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-93430900525-7/fulltext

This is why nobody feels bad about that schmuck who got popped in NYC and many people are even cheering about it.

I think I like this new populist directions Americans are taking, finally.

Could it have anything do with other countries not being a bunch of morbidly obese, chronically ill sheep?

 

[PeterPilot]

Medical and dental have been literally getting away w/murder for decades in this country.

They know it too.

Great thread, long time coming!

I've long felt that as a taxpayer I would much rather my taxes be spent on universal healthcare than on perpetual wars all around the globe against people who've done us no wrong. Eisenhower was right warning against the military industrial complex.

 

[initforme]

Cutting programs that help average people will only set the nation back.

 

[dudmuck]

Cutting programs that help average people will only set the nation back.

 

[cnm]

I also recognize there is no easy answer for either political party.

Absolutely. To do what every other developed nation does would be unAmerican.

 

[cnm]

Well, if they negotiate prices with providers and drug companies then they must be. Why do you think they negotiate prices with providers and drug companies?

To increase their margins.

 

[MarcATL]

Sounds like they're damn near pro-patient the way you put it.

Are they operating with the best interest of the patient at heart?

Here you go self-proclaimed Independent thinker ...

Testimony of a former UnitedHealthcare employee who says she worked under CEO Brian Thompson

Krista Monroe spills the beans on business practices of UnitedHealthcare As you can see, it's not good.

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[cnm]

It brought health insurance to many who didn't have it. There is lots of free healthcare out there.

Especially for cancer sufferers, right?

 

[Independent thinker]

To increase their margins.

Margins are monitored by the government. If health insurance companies charge too much they are forced to refund money to their customers.

 

[Independent thinker]

Here you go self-proclaimed Independent thinker ...

Testimony of a former UnitedHealthcare employee who says she worked under CEO Brian Thompson

Krista Monroe spills the beans on business practices of UnitedHealthcare As you can see, it's not good.

www.usmessageboard.com

So, you're saying that his murder was justified.

 

[MarcATL]

So, you're saying that his murder was justified.

Typical hyper-partisan idiot response.

Lost in the sauce.

 

[Independent thinker]

Typical hyper-partisan idiot response.

Lost in the sauce.

So, you can't bring yourself to say that the guy is not a hero but a cold blooded murderer.

 

[MarcATL]

So, you can't bring yourself to say that the guy is not a hero but a cold blooded murderer.

Paisano Luigi is a victim of the evil US health insurance industry, like millions of Americans.

 

[Independent thinker]

Paisano Luigi is a victim of the evil US health insurance industry, like millions of Americans.

So, you can't bring yourself to say that the guy is not a hero but a cold blooded murderer.

Also, please show proof that he was a victim. In fact, we don't know if he was an insurance victim or not and, even if he was, we don't know if he was a victim of United Health Insurance.

 

[Marener]

Margins are monitored by the government. If health insurance companies charge too much they are forced to refund money to their customers.

Not if Republicans have anything to do with it. They want insurers to have as big of margins as they can possibly generate.

 

[cnm]

Margins are monitored by the government. If health insurance companies charge too much they are forced to refund money to their customers.

My mistake.

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Capping health insurers’ profit margins

Did Obamacare regulations bring down premiums? Probably not.

www.aeaweb.org

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In the simplest terms, the 80/20 rule requires that insurance companies spend at least 80 percent of the premiums they collect on medical claims, effectively capping their profit margins. If insurers fall under this threshold, they must rebate the difference to policyholders.​

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At first, those rebates were a boon to insurees. Many companies were not able to comply with the rule in the short run, so they had to issue over a billion dollars in rebates within the first year. ​

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That situation didn’t last though. Rather than lower premiums, insurers searched for other ways to come into compliance. Initially, there were efforts to relabel some administrative costs as “quality improvements”—like lobbying to count spending on nurses’ hotlines as part of the 80 percent. ​

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But the easiest route to meeting the requirement was simply to let medical claims increase. That companies opted to do this, instead of lowering premiums, didn’t come as a surprise to the authors.​

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“An instrument like this looked very familiar to me from my work on utility regulation,” Cicala said. “And it was kind of incredible that something like it had been adopted [by the ACA].”​

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The electricity sector, for instance, uses regulations similar to the 80/20 rule, but there are regulators that monitor utilities and sign off on “legitimate” costs—a key difference. There was no such oversight for the health insurance industry.​

 

[Independent thinker]

Not if Republicans have anything to do with it. They want insurers to have as big of margins as they can possibly generate.

LOL. So, you're finally agreeing that health insurance companies aren't monsters after all but could be if Republicans are in charge. In other words, the killing in New York was nothing but cold blooded, unjustified murder.

 

[Marener]

LOL. So, you're finally agreeing that health insurance companies aren't monsters after all but could be if Republicans are in charge. In other words, the killing in New York was nothing but cold blooded, unjustified murder.

You’re delusional.

Good to see Republicans returning to their old form, defending rich elitists who earn massive bonuses by screwing over the working class.

That brief flirtation with populism and supporting the common man was just to fool them into voting for you.