The Neocons Were Right, After All

[William Joyce]

Oh, no. My mistake. They were WRONG. They always were and they always have been. There weren't any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Nope. None. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Even if it didn't, it didn't have anything to do with anything except that Israel wanted it destroyed. Bush probably didn't lie because he's too dumb. He was manipulated by the pro-Israel crowd.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040917/D855CLS02.html

God, can the U.S. have a smart president, please?

 

[Avatar4321]

You are as bad as the liberals. Explain to me anywhere were anyone has ever claimed that Iraq was involved in 911.

Im sorry your so full of hate and contempt for people who are different from you but it doesnt change that US and Israel have the same enemies. Its funny youd rather die at the hands of terrorists then ever join forces with Jews to fight them. Funny and sad.

 

[dilloduck]

Oh, no. My mistake. They were WRONG. They always were and they always have been. There weren't any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Nope. None. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Even if it didn't, it didn't have anything to do with anything except that Israel wanted it destroyed. Bush probably didn't lie because he's too dumb. He was manipulated by the pro-Israel crowd.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040917/D855CLS02.html

God, can the U.S. have a smart president, please?

sorry--I keep forgetting who you reccommeded? Who was that again?

 

[fuzzykitten99]

Oh, no. My mistake. They were WRONG. They always were and they always have been. There weren't any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Nope. None. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Even if it didn't, it didn't have anything to do with anything except that Israel wanted it destroyed. Bush probably didn't lie because he's too dumb. He was manipulated by the pro-Israel crowd.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040917/D855CLS02.html

God, can the U.S. have a smart president, please?

WJ...here...it seems as though you have never paid much attention in the past...have a look-see...

HOW SOON THEY FORGET
EVERY ONE OF DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED--THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND HE TOOK US TO WAR UNNECESSARILY!

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." - President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the Greatest security threat we face." - Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb 18,1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the US Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." - Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI), Tom Daschle (D-SD), John Kerry (D - MA), and others Oct. 9,1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engage! d in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." - Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9,2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years .. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" - Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members.. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." -Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real" - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

Now tell me again that Iraq NEVER had the weapons, with links. They had them at one time. Where did they go? Well, he had 12 years (8 of which were Clinton's) to hide them in areas other than Iraq.

 

[padisha emperor]

Lots of accounts about WMD.

but like said Zhukov, "1 billion people may be totally wrong"

Where are these WMD ?

US troops still search for them.
One day they found a unkown suspect liquid, but it was only Eau de Cologne.....

 

[dilloduck]

Lots of accounts about WMD.

but like said Zhukov, "1 billion people may be totally wrong"

Where are these WMD ?

US troops still search for them.
One day they found a unkown suspect liquid, but it was only Eau de Cologne.....

WE WERE WRONG ABOUT THE WMDs. Should we leave now?

 

[dmp]

why does this one reply fit SOO many threads:

Again - how can you not be aware of this:

It was SADDAM's responsibility to PROVE he had no items/programs in violation of the Treaty which Ended GulfWar I. It was NOT the UN's responsibility to Prove Saddam's Guilt or Innocence. Saddam KICKED OUT the inspectors for what? 6 years? more?


Why is it so hard for you to give the benefit of the doubt to a coallition of Nations; honourable nations, yet you extend that doubt so freely to Saddam?

 

[onedomino]

Oh, no. My mistake. They were WRONG. They always were and they always have been. There weren't any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Nope. None. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Even if it didn't, it didn't have anything to do with anything except that Israel wanted it destroyed. Bush probably didn't lie because he's too dumb. He was manipulated by the pro-Israel crowd.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040917/D855CLS02.html

God, can the U.S. have a smart president, please?

William, what a ridiculous comment. Not only are you a racist (as shown in other posts), but you are anti-semitic as well. Israel is one of the best allies that the US has. I am glad that America destroyed a murderous Iraqi government that was paying for homicide bombers to attack Israel. American Jews have made many great contributions to the United States and continue to do so.

 

[padisha emperor]

I believe that it was the main reason for the war :
"IRAQ HAS WMD. IT IS A DANGER FOR THE PEACE OF THE WORLD."
USA lie to the world, using a false reason to attack a country and get it oil.


So.
In fact, the only country with WMD who is a real danger for the world's peace is USA. (I mean GW Bush and his Administration, not the US population)

 

[dmp]

I believe that it was the main reason for the war :
"IRAQ HAS WMD. IT IS A DANGER FOR THE PEACE OF THE WORLD."
USA lie to the world, using a false reason to attack a country and get it oil.


So.
In fact, the only country with WMD who is a real danger for the world's peace is USA. (I mean GW Bush and his Administration, not the US population)

Vous croyez un mensonge. Il n'y a aucun fait dans votre rapport. Vous avez le droit de croire un mensonge, je concède

 

[dilloduck]

I believe that it was the main reason for the war :
"IRAQ HAS WMD. IT IS A DANGER FOR THE PEACE OF THE WORLD."
USA lie to the world, using a false reason to attack a country and get it oil.


So.
In fact, the only country with WMD who is a real danger for the world's peace is USA. (I mean GW Bush and his Administration, not the US population)

Dish buddy----pull it together-----even though our intel turned out to be bad we still had reason to attack. We would have attacked anyway for other reasons. FInding out that the terrorists will and can kill us here changed our thinking. We will no longer wait to be attacked . Got it?

 

[padisha emperor]

Vous croyez un mensonge. Il n'y a aucun fait dans votre rapport. Vous avez le droit de croire un mensonge, je concède

You talk to me ? Where is the lie ? Is the fact that there is no WMD in Iraq which is the lie ?
You can't proove that there is WMD.
You attacked, so YOU have to give the proof.

(otherwise, excellentfrench, exept one little mistake at the end : "je LE concède" ...automatic translation on your computer ? )

 

[dilloduck]

You talk to me ? Where is the lie ? Is the fact that there is no WMD in Iraq which is the lie ?
You can't proove that there is WMD.
You attacked, so YOU have to give the proof.

(otherwise, excellentfrench, exept one little mistake at the end : "je LE concède" ...automatic translation on your computer ? )

We have no proof----should we leave Iraq now?

 

[dmp]

You talk to me ? Where is the lie ? Is the fact that there is no WMD in Iraq which is the lie ?
You can't proove that there is WMD.
You attacked, so YOU have to give the proof.

(otherwise, excellentfrench, exept one little mistake at the end : "je LE concède" ...automatic translation on your computer ? )

Yes - well, online translator


The lie is: GWB/USA did NOT attack because 'Saddam had WMD'. We, along with 20 OTHER countries attacked because it was up to SADDAM to prove he did NOT. We attacked because every major intelligence organization in the WORLD believed he did, in fact, possess WMD or the ability to create WMD. In the words of our great leader "We must attack before this threat becomes imminent"



bonne journée, mon ami !

 

[TopUSMC]

Can you say "Regime Change". Goal's of Operation Iraqi Freedom.
#1 Remove Saddam from power as quickly as possible with as few US casualties as possible. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
#2 Capture senior members of Saddam's staff. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
#3 Seize any and all possible WMD materials and sites. 50% ACCOMPLISHED.
Although we did not find any WMD materials, (chemical, Biological, or nuclear) materials were found that could have been used to make a crude dirty bomb. A dirty bomb is when you take an explosive device and surround it with a radioactive substance. When exploded it makes it very unhealthy to be anywhere near the contaminated area (downwind of the blast area is not a good place for you to be), you can get contaminted by breathing in the dust from the blast, during clean up, or just walking down the road many miles away from the actual blast area. Or you get it on your skin, eyes, or you injest it on your food. It can cause burns on the skin, blindness, so you can just imagine what it would do your insides, and your long term health and any children that you might have in the future.

Time to get off the "No WMD" soap box. We have to finish what we started or all sacrifices that have been made to date will have been for naught.

Semper Fi,
Top USMC

"Honor, Courage, Committment"

 

[wade]

More denial. You right wingers just cannot accept the FACT you were duped by your hero George Bush. There were no significant WMD's, and they knew this and it didn't matter, they told us they were there anyway.

The contention that any other argument would have lead to the US invasion is pure BULL SHIT! No other argument was even really made.

And, the Bush administrations own 1500 page report says the UN sanctions against Iraq WORKED! Because of the sanctions Iraq had no WMD's. That's what the Bush administration says.

Wade.

 

[dmp]

More denial. You right wingers just cannot accept the FACT you were duped by your hero George Bush. There were no significant WMD's, and they knew this and it didn't matter, they told us they were there anyway.

The contention that any other argument would have lead to the US invasion is pure BULL SHIT! No other argument was even really made.

And, the Bush administrations own 1500 page report says the UN sanctions against Iraq WORKED! Because of the sanctions Iraq had no WMD's. That's what the Bush administration says.

Wade.

are you not reading? What part of "It was Saddam's responsibility to prove he had WMD's" don't you understand? The UN Security Council agreed Saddam had not lived up to his responsibilities; Clinton knew it too - was just too big of a pussy to ACT.

wow.

 

[wade]

Can you say "Regime Change". Goal's of Operation Iraqi Freedom.
#1 Remove Saddam from power as quickly as possible with as few US casualties as possible. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
#2 Capture senior members of Saddam's staff. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
#3 Seize any and all possible WMD materials and sites. 50% ACCOMPLISHED.
Although we did not find any WMD materials, (chemical, Biological, or nuclear) materials were found that could have been used to make a crude dirty bomb. A dirty bomb is when you take an explosive device and surround it with a radioactive substance. When exploded it makes it very unhealthy to be anywhere near the contaminated area (downwind of the blast area is not a good place for you to be), you can get contaminted by breathing in the dust from the blast, during clean up, or just walking down the road many miles away from the actual blast area. Or you get it on your skin, eyes, or you injest it on your food. It can cause burns on the skin, blindness, so you can just imagine what it would do your insides, and your long term health and any children that you might have in the future.

Time to get off the "No WMD" soap box. We have to finish what we started or all sacrifices that have been made to date will have been for naught.

Semper Fi,
Top USMC

"Honor, Courage, Committment"

And if he hadn't been duped into the invading Kuwait back in 91 with US assurances we'd not react, and he still wanted to take it he'd have used dirty bombs to secure his holdings (and probably rolled into SA as well). Had he done so, there'd have been little if anything we could have done about it, and he'd hold all of that territory today.

Wade.

 

[dmp]

And if he hadn't been duped into the invading Kuwait back in 91 with US assurances we'd not react, and he still wanted to take it he'd have used dirty bombs to secure his holdings (and probably rolled into SA as well). Had he done so, there'd have been little if anything we could have done about it, and he'd hold all of that territory today.

Wade.

Holy Shit...you really believe that??

 

[fuzzykitten99]

More denial. You right wingers just cannot accept the FACT you were duped by your hero George Bush. There were no significant WMD's, and they knew this and it didn't matter, they told us they were there anyway.

The contention that any other argument would have lead to the US invasion is pure BULL SHIT! No other argument was even really made.

And, the Bush administrations own 1500 page report says the UN sanctions against Iraq WORKED! Because of the sanctions Iraq had no WMD's. That's what the Bush administration says.

Wade.

DUPED???!!! Tell ya what. Go to my first post in this thread and find any name that you see that is familiar. I made it easy by highlighting possible ones in different colors. So Clinton, and his liberal co-horts were DUPED as well? Hmmm.....hypocrite??