Were the days after October 7, 2023 rock bottom for the left?

[LordBrownTrout]

I've been thinking about this recently, and I just heard a podcast with Bill Ackman, and he put it into words I hadn't considered.

Every alcoholic, drug user, or other type of addict, usually has what they call a "rock bottom", where the behaviors associated with the addiction cause the addict to do something so disgraceful, humiliating, and/or dangerous, that they finally see the error of their ways, and can no longer deny the damage done.

I think the days after Hamas' terror attacks on Israel was that rock bottom for the left, many of whom have become addicted to hate/bigotry/anti-Semitism, particularly through radicalization in the media and academia. So-called Americans were openly waving Hamas flags, cheering the brutal torture and murder of Israeli men, women, and children, burning American flags, attacking American Jews on college campuses and elsewhere, and cheering the taking of hostages.

The road back from rock bottom to recovery is usually a painful one that requires a lot of humility and self-examination. Based on what I'm seeing from the left as far as reactions to the election, I don't think that recovery is going well so far, do you?

It brought out who the left really is.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Thinking Trump would be better to Palestinians than Kamala?

Unless, like Trump Mexicans, Women, Gays, Arab Americans, are you saying common sense Palestinians will agree with Trump? Because they sure didn't like Biden siding with Israel or not standing up to them more. You think Trump will?

Trump has already pushed peace with the abraham accords. You don't think trump will push peace?

 

[Arlette]

I've been thinking about this recently, and I just heard a podcast with Bill Ackman, and he put it into words I hadn't considered.

Every alcoholic, drug user, or other type of addict, usually has what they call a "rock bottom", where the behaviors associated with the addiction cause the addict to do something so disgraceful, humiliating, and/or dangerous, that they finally see the error of their ways, and can no longer deny the damage done.

I think the days after Hamas' terror attacks on Israel was that rock bottom for the left, many of whom have become addicted to hate/bigotry/anti-Semitism, particularly through radicalization in the media and academia. So-called Americans were openly waving Hamas flags, cheering the brutal torture and murder of Israeli men, women, and children, burning American flags, attacking American Jews on college campuses and elsewhere, and cheering the taking of hostages.

The road back from rock bottom to recovery is usually a painful one that requires a lot of humility and self-examination. Based on what I'm seeing from the left as far as reactions to the election, I don't think that recovery is going well so far, do you?

Nah. The day the squatters got attacked wasn't rock bottom.

 

[marvin martian]

Nah. The day the squatters got attacked wasn't rock bottom.

Not for you, clearly. You've still got even darker Nazi impulses.

 

[Arlette]

Not for you, clearly. You've still got even darker Nazi impulses.

Your OP is stupid

 

[marvin martian]

Your OP is stupid

You're a Nazi piece of shit.

 

[Arlette]

You're a Nazi piece of shit.

And?

 

[1srelluc]

Most folks knew that the IDF would take out the trash.....They also knew how despicable the dems are.

Hell, it did not even make much of a difference with US Jews, they still voted dem by estimates of 67% -79%.

I'd say no difference.

 

[luiza]

VERMIN ISRAEL LET HAMAS IN

Netanyahoo Knew The Attack Was Coming - He Let It Happen On Purpose​

The prime minister of the Zionist entity, Benjamin Netanyahoo, is under fire. New criminal allegations have been raised against him.

People in Netanyaho's office had 'leaked' secret reports obtained by the Israeli military intelligence from some low level Hamas leader. Before leaking the documents, which included proposals for future actions, the leakers manipulated them.

The manipulated documents appeared as 'news' on foreign websites which allowed the censored Israeli media to repeat their content. As leaked , the documents claimed that Hamas leaders Yahya Sinwar, accompanied by Israelis taken hostage, intended to escape to Egypt from where he would travel to Iran.

It was pretty obvious that the claims were fake. But Netanyahoo did use them to prevent further negotiations about hostage releases.

Several people involved in the leak of the manipulated top-secret papers have since been arrested.

Another scandal is currently brewing about events which immediately happened before the October 7 incursion of Hamas into Israel.

On October 6 a significant number of Hamas fighters in Gaza activated Israeli SIM cards which would allow them to use their cell phones within Israel. Various survival systems noted this and raised alarm. Meetings were held by several security councils, including the one involving the prime minister, but no further alarm was raised (machine translation):

More than a year after the October inauguration, the political leadership has repeatedly claimed that it did not receive any warning before the attack - but a document revealed this evening (Sunday) indicates otherwise. According to the document, on the night of the attack, at 02:58 a.m., the Shin Bet issued a significant warning to a number of security and political bodies, including the NSC directly subordinate to the prime Minister.
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The alert, which was distributed through a computerized system, included information about unusual activity in the SIM network of several Hamas brigades. The Shin Bet said the activity was unusual and could indicate the possibility of some kind of offensive activity by Hamas.
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Despite the severity of the warning, it appears that no significant action has been taken in its wake. The NSC, for example, did not take any steps following the receipt of the information. The Israeli police did not change their activities either, as can be seen from the fact that the Nuba party in southern Israel took place as planned.

This suggests, like several other ignored warnings imply, that Netanyahoo and others involved in the decisions knew of the incoming attack but had decided to let it happen to then use the aftermath for their own political purposes.

As the details were starting to come out Netanyahoo came under fire. He had claimed that the security services had been negligent in not issuing warnings. But in reality he seems to have been the one who was informed about the incoming attack but had rejected to raise the alarm.

All the national security council discussions about the decisions in the night of October 6 to 7 are noted in its protocols. As the walls were coming in on the prime minister his immediate aides sought to alter the protocols of the relevant meetings.

But the protocols were under control of a certain high ranking military officer. To get retroactive changes applied, which would exculpate the prime minister, Netanyahoo's aides tried to blackmail the officer over an alleged relation with a subaltern woman:

Top aides to Benjamin Netanyahu are suspected of trying to blackmail an IDF officer in the military secretariat of the Prime Minister’s Office in order to modify minutes of top-level security discussions in the hours before the Hamas attack that sparked the war in Gaza, Hebrew media reported Friday.
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Hebrew media indicated the probe was related to a July report on Ynet that Netanyahu’s former military secretary, Maj. Gen. Avi Gil, had some months before warned the attorney general of efforts to change protocols of security discussions.
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According to Channel 12, as part of the alleged attempt to change protocols, Netanyahu’s aides are thought to have used “sensitive footage” of a military secretariat officer in order to coax him into changing protocols discussions from the night of October 6-7, 2023 — hours before thousands of Hamas-led terrorists stormed southern Israel to kill some 1,200 people and take 251 hostages, sparking the war in Gaza.
Netanyahu has blamed Israel’s security forces for failure to foresee the attack, and resisted calls for a public commission of inquiry to be established into events leading up to it.
Channel 13 said Netanyahu’s aides allegedly stole compromising information about a military secretariat officer from the phone of a woman who works in the PMO. Netanyahu’s aides allegedly took her phone under the pretext that she was suspected of leaking confidential information, but are thought to have sought her personal correspondence with the officer, the report said.
The Kan public broadcaster had on Thursday reported that Lt. Gen. Herzi Halevi, the IDF chief of staff, had some months ago received a complaint that the PMO was holding, and making inappropriate use of, sensitive footage of an IDF officer. Channel 13 reported that an official in Netanyahu’s circle told Halevi the officer was in an inappropriate relationship with a female worker in the PMO, though an army probe determined the relationship was not an abuse of power.

It is a wild story, and a juicy tale, and several Israeli media have dug digging into it. But I have yet to find any media outside of Israel, except Seymour Hersh, which have touched on the latest issue.

There were suspicions from the very beginning that Israeli authorities had knowledge about the Hamas attack on October 7 2023 before it happened but had failed to raise the alarm. Claims were made, unfortunately without any evidence, that this was done not out of negligence, but on purpose.

We now can finally say that this was indeed the case. Israeli authorities, up to the prime minister, knew that the attack was coming, but rejected to raise the alarm to an appropriate level. They let the attack happen on purpose (LIHOP).

All that followed since was, from the very beginning, part of their long-term plans.

 

[buckeye45_73]

The democrats accepted the results of the election. Harris conceded. Biden had Trump to the white house to start the transition.
Compare that to 2020.

Well, there was the sudden surge of votes and the sudden 3 AM drop of votes "found" in 2020

 

[buckeye45_73]

Thinking Trump would be better to Palestinians than Kamala?

Unless, like Trump Mexicans, Women, Gays, Arab Americans, are you saying common sense Palestinians will agree with Trump? Because they sure didn't like Biden siding with Israel or not standing up to them more. You think Trump will?

No, he would side with Israel, but he's not a neocon, so he doesn't jerk off to dead bodies. He wants it fixed.

And looky looky

Hamas

Live: Hamas says 'ready for ceasefire', urges Trump to ‘pressure’ Israel

Hamas political bureau member Bassem Naim on Friday said the group is "ready for a ceasefire" in Gaza, urging US President-elect Donald Trump to "pressure" Israel as it continued strikes on the Palestinian…

www.france24.com

Qtar turns on Hamas

Qatar, Fearing Changes in Its Relations With America Once Trump Returns to the White House, Turns on Hamas

Wary of landing in Trump’s crosshairs, the Islamic Republic of Iran and Arab countries are repositioning themselves.

www.nysun.com

Putin

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Point is there are people shitting their pants now that Trump is back. They know they better get with the program. These wars will stop. Hamas lost their protection in Qtar and noone else short of Iran would take them. That war will come to an end
And Russia and Ukraine know that war is ending and we'll get a deal.


Its great to have strong leadership in the world. And now we will have less wars.

 

[buckeye45_73]

I've been thinking about this recently, and I just heard a podcast with Bill Ackman, and he put it into words I hadn't considered.

Every alcoholic, drug user, or other type of addict, usually has what they call a "rock bottom", where the behaviors associated with the addiction cause the addict to do something so disgraceful, humiliating, and/or dangerous, that they finally see the error of their ways, and can no longer deny the damage done.

I think the days after Hamas' terror attacks on Israel was that rock bottom for the left, many of whom have become addicted to hate/bigotry/anti-Semitism, particularly through radicalization in the media and academia. So-called Americans were openly waving Hamas flags, cheering the brutal torture and murder of Israeli men, women, and children, burning American flags, attacking American Jews on college campuses and elsewhere, and cheering the taking of hostages.

The road back from rock bottom to recovery is usually a painful one that requires a lot of humility and self-examination. Based on what I'm seeing from the left as far as reactions to the election, I don't think that recovery is going well so far, do you?

It did, but Wait until this cabinet takes their jobs, it's about to get a whole lot worse for the left.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Well, there was the sudden surge of votes and the sudden 3 AM drop of votes "found" in 2020

No excuses for 2024. Making excuses and not accepting losing is the characteristic of a real loser.

 

[sealybobo]

No, he would side with Israel, but he's not a neocon, so he doesn't jerk off to dead bodies. He wants it fixed.

And looky looky

Hamas

Live: Hamas says 'ready for ceasefire', urges Trump to ‘pressure’ Israel

Hamas political bureau member Bassem Naim on Friday said the group is "ready for a ceasefire" in Gaza, urging US President-elect Donald Trump to "pressure" Israel as it continued strikes on the Palestinian…

www.france24.com

Qtar turns on Hamas

Qatar, Fearing Changes in Its Relations With America Once Trump Returns to the White House, Turns on Hamas

Wary of landing in Trump’s crosshairs, the Islamic Republic of Iran and Arab countries are repositioning themselves.

www.nysun.com

Putin

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www.washingtonpost.com

Point is there are people shitting their pants now that Trump is back. They know they better get with the program. These wars will stop. Hamas lost their protection in Qtar and noone else short of Iran would take them. That war will come to an end
And Russia and Ukraine know that war is ending and we'll get a deal.


Its great to have strong leadership in the world. And now we will have less wars.

I suppose you are right. From now on, future presidents will all be strong MEN. At least for the next million years then ladies, have at it.

The Y chromosomes, which have been the male-determining gene, have been degenerating and are likely to disappear in some million years.