The Myth of McCarthyism

[Andylusion]

Yet as has been revealed for some time now McCarthy was correct.

Communism - McCarthy Was Right


Outrageously even to this day the democats/liberals/socialists/marxists/communists continue to villify and lie about him despite the fact they should know better and perhaps they do but as per sop they never let the truth get in the way of their narrative.


The Vindication of Joseph McCarthy - The Objective Standard



On This Day: McCarthy warns of communists in State Department

Well, lets see. Trump giving Russians classified information, and selling out the US to an ex Soviet KGB agent. Then sends love letters to North Korea. Then A plane load of Republican Senators fly to Russia on the 4th of July to sell out the US to the Russians. Now we have Republican Senators openly taking money from Russian oligarchs, and brazenly allowing the Kremlin to interfere in our elections. Then the Secretary of State gives Crimea away to the Russians, and tells our ally, sorry, thats just the way it is, and lets Belarus have all of the Ukraine oil they want.

Damn. You're right. the commies have infiltrated the government. And it's so complete, they have an asset in the White House, assets in the State Dept., and assets in the Senate. They have effectively co opted the entire Republican party.

So you can't argue against anything that was said.... but you can make up false claims against Trump again.

Save us the time, and just say "You were right, and I am wrong."

 

[MacTheKnife]

In the forty years following the Russian Revolution of October 1917, communism was the most dynamic force in American left-wing politics


In the 1950's many democratic and elitist liberal republican Washington politicians and government workers had connections in their past with communism.

As has been pointed out previously...many Americans became enamoured with communism during the great depression followed by our alliance with Russia to fight German Nazism which added further reason for many in Washington...even members of the military....to be soft on communism or if not somehow personally involved had friends and relatives and other associates who were.

Our universities were ripe recruiting grounds for the communist internationale....many succumbed to the notion that communism had something to offer.

However, the American people finally woke to the barbaric reality of communism after WWII was over...and the people.....(not to include the elitists, academians and members of the msm) began to understand the threat communsim posed to liberty.

Thus those who had something in their history regarding communism felt threatened when the tide turned against communism.....and they did their best to hide their history and were quite fearful of being exposed.

Then along came Senator McCarthy who began to do exactly that.

Thus these people who had something to hide and much to fear ....organized and began to demonize to the best of their ability Senator McCarthy and his drive to rid our government and military of communists and communist sympathizers.

With the help of the media they were very successful at creating the myth of McCarthyism that has endured to this day.

Not even to mention that the front-runner in the democratic partys nomination process is for all intents and purposes --a communist--as has even been pointed out by Bill Clintons top advisor.

Carville fires back at Sanders for 'hack' slam: 'At least I'm not a communist'

Communism in the United States | Jewish Women's Archive

 

[MacTheKnife]

What you are not getting is that McCarthy was privy to the evidence collected by the venona project.....but at that time the venona project was Top Secret because the government did not want the Russians to know what we were doing.

Thus McCarthy's and Hoovers hands were tied as they had the hard evidence of who, what where and when.....yet, they could not reveal their source.

The NSA's top-secret program called Venona which intercepted messages between Moscow and its American agents proves McCarthy and Hoover were correct.

'The recent publication of a batch of Venona transcripts gives evidence that the Roosevelt and Truman administrations were rife with communist spies and political operatives who reported, directly or indirectly, to the Soviet government, much as their anti-communist opponents charged. The Age of McCarthyism, it turns out, was not the simple witch hunt of the innocent by the malevolent as two generations of high school and college students have been taught.

The sum and substance of this growing body of material is that: Ethel and Julius Rosenberg, executed in June 1953 for atomic espionage, were guilty; Alger Hiss, a darling of the establishment was guilty; and that dozens of lesser known persons such as Victor Perlo, Judith Coplon and Harry Gold, whose innocence of the accusations made against them had been a tenet of leftist faith for decades, were traitors or, at the least, the ideological vassals of a foreign power.

Even moderate politicians who insisted upon the fact -- and argued that these people might have influenced U.S. foreign policy -- were scorned. Sen. Robert Taft of Ohio said, "The greatest Kremlin asset in our history has been the pro-communist group in the State Department who surrendered to every demand of Russia at Yalta and Potsdam, and promoted at every opportunity the communist cause in China until today communism threatens to take over all of Asia." Secretary of State Dean Acheson, a pillar of the establishment, concluded that Taft had joined "the primitives."

The part played by Klaus Fuchs, a high-level physicist, who had worked at Los Alamos, has been known for many years, as has the treason of the Rosenbergs. Nevertheless, for as long as the subject was a hotly-disputed controversy, it was the practice in leftist circles to scoff at the rustic notion that the "secret" of the bomb could be stolen at all. Now we know, thanks to the latest Venona transcripts, that a Harvard-trained physicist named Theodore Alvin Hall was passing secrets about the instrument which changed world politics in the last half of the 20th century.

The disaster brought on by the end of the American atomic monopoly was not lost on the more perspicacious thinkers of the time. In 1947 Bertrand Russell, the British scientist, philosopher and pacifist leader, saw the monopoly as the world's only opportunity for preventing the Soviets from working their will on much of the globe. Noting the nature of "Asiatic communism" (which American liberals were often unable to see in its fullest dimensions), he argued for forcing Moscow into a humane capitulation, even if it took a military ultimatum to do it. But, as the right eye of American politics was blind to fascism in the 1930s, the left eye could not comprehend the nature of communism -- then or later.

And where was Harry Truman? His hagiographers today present him as the plucky, courageous, little guy who stood up to world communism and led America into a new age of cosmopolitan internationalism. It is a description that millions of his adult contemporaries would have found unrecognizable. In fact, the public conduct of the Truman administration became the affirmation of people who said Truman was soft on communism. When Winston Churchill delivered his famous "Iron Curtain" speech at Fulton, Mo. in March 1946, Truman immediately disavowed the former British prime minister. Astonishing as it may seem to those who get their history from movies and TV, the American president invited Joseph Stalin to come to Fulton and give a speech presenting his side of the story. Truman actually offered to send the battleship Missouri to fetch the Soviet tyrant.

Truman also called the investigation of Alger Hiss "a red herring," encouraging the suspicion that the government was not really addressing the communist threat.


Millions of Americans of Polish, Hungarian, Estonian, Czech, German, Lithuanian, Latvian and Ukrainian extraction saw nations to which they had the closest emotional ties come under Soviet thrall, sometimes by actual arrangement with the American government or in the face of a murmured pro forma opposition by Washington.

Starting in Wisconsin, whence McCarthy hailed, the political fire storm he ignited burned brightest where these emigre populations were most concentrated. In the eyes of celebrity liberalism, those up in arms about the government's acceptance of communist ambition were the unappetizing people of the dull world of the lower middle class. They were the piano-legged babushkas of American politics, stolid Slavs and such, thick of finger and numb of mind.

In the ongoing kulturkampf dividing the society, the elites of Hollywood, Cambridge and liberal think-tankery had little sympathy for bow-legged men with their American Legion caps and their fat wives, their yapping about Yalta and the Katyn Forest. Catholic and kitsch, looking out of their picture windows at their flocks of pink plastic flamingos, the lower middles and their foreign policy anguish were too infra dig to be taken seriously.

Once a year these people would hold huge Captive Nation Day rallies in cities across the country, which Democratic politicians of taste and sensibility avoided. The only Democrats in evidence at these rallies of unstylish anti-communists were often dismissed by their social superiors as smarmy, corrupt, machine pols. Auschwitz, Treblinka, Belsen, all the Nazi concentration camps were dismantled, but the Gulag grew and left-liberals like California congresswoman Helen Gahagan Douglas and the editors at the New Republic magazine seemed not to care. Working class anti-communist voters did not fail to notice the disdain with which some of the liberal intelligentsia regarded them. The early 1950s, not coincidentally, marked the beginning of the great outmigration of the blue-collar workers from the Democratic Party.

When McCarthy and his congressional allies began to demand testimony from alleged communists about the infiltration that was real but undocumented (the Venona program then being the most sensitive of state secrets), liberals denounced them for "star chamber" tactics''.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...he-left/a0dc6726-e2fd-4a31-bcdd-5f352acbf5de/

You missed the fact that the Venona Program had a solid list of names on it. The FBI spent a lot of time and resources in compiling those names. And not everyone on that list were guilty either. But McCarthy went way beyond that. He went after everyone that ever publicly disagreed with him and that had nothing to do with the Venonal Program. He had those people so afraid they were turning each other in and most of it was fabricated. Finally, Eisenhower had enough when McCarthy and his goons went after his Military Generals who had openly disagreed with McCarthy over various subjects. They actually convicted very few because there were very few that were actually USSR Agents on the payroll to begin with. That part of justice was done. But the rest was just a travesty.

You have made some false and fallacious allegations regarding Senator McCarthy without any proof or evidence......now of course we all know you like a useful idiot are just parroting the liberal left wing narrative put forth by those who wanted to put a stop to the investigation of communists in our government.

We also know the mainstream media gave much help to those who wanted to stop the investigtion of communist influence in our government as well they wanted to put a stop to flushing out soviet agents that had infiltrated our government.

In the early 1950s, a senator from the state of Wisconsin named Joseph McCarthy took it upon himself to expose the truth about communist infiltration of the United States government. Over a four-year period, Sen. McCarthy relentlessly sought to uncover the truth about why men and women who had been investigated and identified as security risks were allowed to continue in the employ of various bodies and agencies of the federal government, even after their possible connections to international communism had been revealed to their superiors.

Given how pervasive Cold War tensions were at that time, one would expect that Sen. McCarthy’s campaign to discover the truth about communist influence in the U.S. government would have drawn praise and appreciation from all quarters. But such was not the case. On the contrary, right from the beginning, McCarthy was vigorously attacked by the mainstream press who called him crazy, ignorant, boorish, crude, venal, rambling, bullying, opportunistic, obnoxious, dishonest, stupid, obscene, rude, unpleasant, ugly, asinine, ruthless, fascist, and contemptible—and the more attention McCarthy gained, the more vicious his critics in the Fourth Estate became. The American people took his charges seriously and supported his determined attempts to get at the truth, but the media and his political opponents—whose ranks included establishment Republicans as well as Democrats—never let up on McCarthy, and they were not satisfied until they had publicly disgraced him and hounded him into an early grave. In the decades that have passed since Joe McCarthy’s shooting star briefly blazed across the political horizon, the sullying of his reputation has continued unabated, and in the contemporary public imagination McCarthy’s name has come to be synonymous with abuse of power and the persecution of the innocent.

Joseph McCarthy has become arguably the most reviled figure in American history. But the profoundly negative interpretation of his life and his work that has been entered into the official historical record is based on distortions, misconceptions, and misinterpretations that have completely obscured the truth. In fact, the network of communist spies, subversives, and sources of information inside the U.S. government that McCarthy tried so hard to expose really did exist, and its activities were far more extensive and potentially dangerous to the security of the United States than McCarthy’s critics both then and now have ever been willing to admit. The image of Joseph McCarthy that is being passed down from generation to generation is a caricature that bears only a slight resemblance to the real man, and the creation of this caricature provides us with a classic example of how the myth-making machine of academia and the mainstream media continually obscures the truth about important people, events, and episodes in our history.

In May 1957, after the death of Sen. Joe McCarthy, J. Edgar Hoover told former State Department official Harris Houston, widely known among intelligence agents as the leading expert on Communist infiltration of the federal government, that it would be another 50 years before the American people appreciated what Joe McCarthy had done for them.


In his new book "Blacklisted by History, The Untold Story of Senator Joseph McCarthy and His Fight Against America's Enemies," M. Stanton Evans provides a meticulously documented examination of Joe's attempts to alert the American people to the extent of Communist infiltration of the federal government and other American institutions.

Case by case, Evans reveals the unimpeachable evidence that all of the so-called victims of McCarthy's crusade against Communist subversion — every single one of them — really were Communists and agents of a hostile foreign power: the Soviet Union. Evan's long decades of dogged research should at last put at rest the vicious slanders that plagued Joe McCarthy in his Senate career and followed him into the grave.

‘McCarthyism’ Reconsidered: The Real Truth About Joseph McCarthy And His Tireless Campaign Against International Communism - Off The Grid News


AIM Report: Looney Clooney Smears Senator McCarthy - January A


McCarthy Vindicated at Last


The Fourth Estate: Definition and Origins of the Term

All of your cites come from ultrarightwing conspiracy sites.

Here are a few that are NOT from fringe conspiracy sites

How about history.com
Joseph McCarthy

How about the Smithsonian
The Senator Who Stood Up to Joseph McCarthy When No One Else Would

How about from Senate.gov and the original censure that was ended his career.
The Censure Case of Joseph McCarthy of Wisconsin (1954)

Have enough? Not to worry, history will end up treating the 3rd Red Scare no different. At some point, we are going to have to start cleaning up the people in power that are driving it. We have already started.

Here is a very interesting clip for those interested in the McCarthy hearings.

 

[Flopper]

In the forty years following the Russian Revolution of October 1917, communism was the most dynamic force in American left-wing politics


In the 1950's many democratic and elitist liberal republican Washington politicians and government workers had connections in their past with communism.

As has been pointed out previously...many Americans became enamoured with communism during the great depression followed by our alliance with Russia to fight German Nazism which added further reason for many in Washington...even members of the military....to be soft on communism or if not somehow personally involved had friends and relatives and other associates who were.

Our universities were ripe recruiting grounds for the communist internationale....many succumbed to the notion that communism had something to offer.

However, the American people finally woke to the barbaric reality of communism after WWII was over...and the people.....(not to include the elitists, academians and members of the msm) began to understand the threat communsim posed to liberty.

Thus those who had something in their history regarding communism felt threatened when the tide turned against communism.....and they did their best to hide their history and were quite fearful of being exposed.

Then along came Senator McCarthy who began to do exactly that.

Thus these people who had something to hide and much to fear ....organized and began to demonize to the best of their ability Senator McCarthy and his drive to rid our government and military of communists and communist sympathizers.

With the help of the media they were very successful at creating the myth of McCarthyism that has endured to this day.

Not even to mention that the front-runner in the democratic partys nomination process is for all intents and purposes --a communist--as has even been pointed out by Bill Clintons top advisor.

Carville fires back at Sanders for 'hack' slam: 'At least I'm not a communist'

Communism in the United States | Jewish Women's Archive

It is interesting that you consider Sander's a communist. I suspect that you are old enough that you consider socialism as synonymous with communism, totalitarianism, and the end democracy.

Sander's is most popular with the young, those under 40. They grew up without fear of annihilation by the Red Menace in a world in which runaway capitalism was a far greater danger than creeping socialism. They envy the socialist countries in Europe where kids go to college without being saddled by a lifetime of debt, where healthcare is a right not just for those that can afford it, and the quality of life is not measure by the size of a bank account.

 

[sparky]

Joe McCarthy demonstrated the fact that Communists had no more of a right to work in our government than would Nazis or Klansmen. The American people, conversely, have a right to know the political orientation of government officials who might be in a position to adversely influence the future of the country.

Communist Party USA - Wikipedia

American Party (1924) - Wikipedia

~S~

 

[bripat9643]

Joe McCarthy demonstrated the fact that Communists had no more of a right to work in our government than would Nazis or Klansmen. The American people, conversely, have a right to know the political orientation of government officials who might be in a position to adversely influence the future of the country.

Communist Party USA - Wikipedia

American Party (1924) - Wikipedia

~S~

 

[MacTheKnife]

In the forty years following the Russian Revolution of October 1917, communism was the most dynamic force in American left-wing politics


In the 1950's many democratic and elitist liberal republican Washington politicians and government workers had connections in their past with communism.

As has been pointed out previously...many Americans became enamoured with communism during the great depression followed by our alliance with Russia to fight German Nazism which added further reason for many in Washington...even members of the military....to be soft on communism or if not somehow personally involved had friends and relatives and other associates who were.

Our universities were ripe recruiting grounds for the communist internationale....many succumbed to the notion that communism had something to offer.

However, the American people finally woke to the barbaric reality of communism after WWII was over...and the people.....(not to include the elitists, academians and members of the msm) began to understand the threat communsim posed to liberty.

Thus those who had something in their history regarding communism felt threatened when the tide turned against communism.....and they did their best to hide their history and were quite fearful of being exposed.

Then along came Senator McCarthy who began to do exactly that.

Thus these people who had something to hide and much to fear ....organized and began to demonize to the best of their ability Senator McCarthy and his drive to rid our government and military of communists and communist sympathizers.

With the help of the media they were very successful at creating the myth of McCarthyism that has endured to this day.

Not even to mention that the front-runner in the democratic partys nomination process is for all intents and purposes --a communist--as has even been pointed out by Bill Clintons top advisor.

Carville fires back at Sanders for 'hack' slam: 'At least I'm not a communist'

Communism in the United States | Jewish Women's Archive

It is interesting that you consider Sander's a communist. I suspect that you are old enough that you consider socialism as synonymous with communism, totalitarianism, and the end democracy.

Sander's is most popular with the young, those under 40. They grew up without fear of annihilation by the Red Menace in a world in which runaway capitalism was a far greater danger than creeping socialism. They envy the socialist countries in Europe where kids go to college without being saddled by a lifetime of debt, where healthcare is a right not just for those that can afford it, and the quality of life is not measure by the size of a bank account.

The milennials are stupid and have little knowledge of history.....and think they are entitled to free stuff cuz dey are just o so special dats what dere mommy told them. bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa take a hike boy hehheh

Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist

Three Nations That Tried Socialism and Rejected It

Why socialism always fails | American Enterprise Institute - AEI

Why Democratic Socialists Can't Claim Sweden, Denmark as Success Stories

Socialism in No Country

 

[Flopper]

In the forty years following the Russian Revolution of October 1917, communism was the most dynamic force in American left-wing politics


In the 1950's many democratic and elitist liberal republican Washington politicians and government workers had connections in their past with communism.

As has been pointed out previously...many Americans became enamoured with communism during the great depression followed by our alliance with Russia to fight German Nazism which added further reason for many in Washington...even members of the military....to be soft on communism or if not somehow personally involved had friends and relatives and other associates who were.

Our universities were ripe recruiting grounds for the communist internationale....many succumbed to the notion that communism had something to offer.

However, the American people finally woke to the barbaric reality of communism after WWII was over...and the people.....(not to include the elitists, academians and members of the msm) began to understand the threat communsim posed to liberty.

Thus those who had something in their history regarding communism felt threatened when the tide turned against communism.....and they did their best to hide their history and were quite fearful of being exposed.

Then along came Senator McCarthy who began to do exactly that.

Thus these people who had something to hide and much to fear ....organized and began to demonize to the best of their ability Senator McCarthy and his drive to rid our government and military of communists and communist sympathizers.

With the help of the media they were very successful at creating the myth of McCarthyism that has endured to this day.

Not even to mention that the front-runner in the democratic partys nomination process is for all intents and purposes --a communist--as has even been pointed out by Bill Clintons top advisor.

Carville fires back at Sanders for 'hack' slam: 'At least I'm not a communist'

Communism in the United States | Jewish Women's Archive

It is interesting that you consider Sander's a communist. I suspect that you are old enough that you consider socialism as synonymous with communism, totalitarianism, and the end democracy.

Sander's is most popular with the young, those under 40. They grew up without fear of annihilation by the Red Menace in a world in which runaway capitalism was a far greater danger than creeping socialism. They envy the socialist countries in Europe where kids go to college without being saddled by a lifetime of debt, where healthcare is a right not just for those that can afford it, and the quality of life is not measure by the size of a bank account.

The milennials are stupid and have little knowledge of history.....and think they are entitled to free stuff cuz dey are just o so special dats what dere mommy told them. bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa take a hike boy hehheh

Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist

Three Nations That Tried Socialism and Rejected It

Why socialism always fails | American Enterprise Institute - AEI

Why Democratic Socialists Can't Claim Sweden, Denmark as Success Stories

And they will be running the country in a few years

 

[MacTheKnife]

In the forty years following the Russian Revolution of October 1917, communism was the most dynamic force in American left-wing politics


In the 1950's many democratic and elitist liberal republican Washington politicians and government workers had connections in their past with communism.

As has been pointed out previously...many Americans became enamoured with communism during the great depression followed by our alliance with Russia to fight German Nazism which added further reason for many in Washington...even members of the military....to be soft on communism or if not somehow personally involved had friends and relatives and other associates who were.

Our universities were ripe recruiting grounds for the communist internationale....many succumbed to the notion that communism had something to offer.

However, the American people finally woke to the barbaric reality of communism after WWII was over...and the people.....(not to include the elitists, academians and members of the msm) began to understand the threat communsim posed to liberty.

Thus those who had something in their history regarding communism felt threatened when the tide turned against communism.....and they did their best to hide their history and were quite fearful of being exposed.

Then along came Senator McCarthy who began to do exactly that.

Thus these people who had something to hide and much to fear ....organized and began to demonize to the best of their ability Senator McCarthy and his drive to rid our government and military of communists and communist sympathizers.

With the help of the media they were very successful at creating the myth of McCarthyism that has endured to this day.

Not even to mention that the front-runner in the democratic partys nomination process is for all intents and purposes --a communist--as has even been pointed out by Bill Clintons top advisor.

Carville fires back at Sanders for 'hack' slam: 'At least I'm not a communist'

Communism in the United States | Jewish Women's Archive

It is interesting that you consider Sander's a communist. I suspect that you are old enough that you consider socialism as synonymous with communism, totalitarianism, and the end democracy.

Sander's is most popular with the young, those under 40. They grew up without fear of annihilation by the Red Menace in a world in which runaway capitalism was a far greater danger than creeping socialism. They envy the socialist countries in Europe where kids go to college without being saddled by a lifetime of debt, where healthcare is a right not just for those that can afford it, and the quality of life is not measure by the size of a bank account.

The milennials are stupid and have little knowledge of history.....and think they are entitled to free stuff cuz dey are just o so special dats what dere mommy told them. bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa take a hike boy hehheh

Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist

Three Nations That Tried Socialism and Rejected It

Why socialism always fails | American Enterprise Institute - AEI

Why Democratic Socialists Can't Claim Sweden, Denmark as Success Stories

And they will be running the country in a few years

The communists always promised things would be better in the future.....what happened was that things got even worse....look at the history of all the russian 5yr plans...how they failed....in a nutshell communism/socialism/marxism are all receipes for disaster.

Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Communism's deadliest foe

Telling the Truth about Communism — Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation

 

[bripat9643]

In the forty years following the Russian Revolution of October 1917, communism was the most dynamic force in American left-wing politics


In the 1950's many democratic and elitist liberal republican Washington politicians and government workers had connections in their past with communism.

As has been pointed out previously...many Americans became enamoured with communism during the great depression followed by our alliance with Russia to fight German Nazism which added further reason for many in Washington...even members of the military....to be soft on communism or if not somehow personally involved had friends and relatives and other associates who were.

Our universities were ripe recruiting grounds for the communist internationale....many succumbed to the notion that communism had something to offer.

However, the American people finally woke to the barbaric reality of communism after WWII was over...and the people.....(not to include the elitists, academians and members of the msm) began to understand the threat communsim posed to liberty.

Thus those who had something in their history regarding communism felt threatened when the tide turned against communism.....and they did their best to hide their history and were quite fearful of being exposed.

Then along came Senator McCarthy who began to do exactly that.

Thus these people who had something to hide and much to fear ....organized and began to demonize to the best of their ability Senator McCarthy and his drive to rid our government and military of communists and communist sympathizers.

With the help of the media they were very successful at creating the myth of McCarthyism that has endured to this day.

Not even to mention that the front-runner in the democratic partys nomination process is for all intents and purposes --a communist--as has even been pointed out by Bill Clintons top advisor.

Carville fires back at Sanders for 'hack' slam: 'At least I'm not a communist'

Communism in the United States | Jewish Women's Archive

It is interesting that you consider Sander's a communist. I suspect that you are old enough that you consider socialism as synonymous with communism, totalitarianism, and the end democracy.

Sander's is most popular with the young, those under 40. They grew up without fear of annihilation by the Red Menace in a world in which runaway capitalism was a far greater danger than creeping socialism. They envy the socialist countries in Europe where kids go to college without being saddled by a lifetime of debt, where healthcare is a right not just for those that can afford it, and the quality of life is not measure by the size of a bank account.

The milennials are stupid and have little knowledge of history.....and think they are entitled to free stuff cuz dey are just o so special dats what dere mommy told them. bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa take a hike boy hehheh

Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist

Three Nations That Tried Socialism and Rejected It

Why socialism always fails | American Enterprise Institute - AEI

Why Democratic Socialists Can't Claim Sweden, Denmark as Success Stories

And they will be running the country in a few years

That thought should terrify you.

 

[Flopper]

In the forty years following the Russian Revolution of October 1917, communism was the most dynamic force in American left-wing politics


In the 1950's many democratic and elitist liberal republican Washington politicians and government workers had connections in their past with communism.

As has been pointed out previously...many Americans became enamoured with communism during the great depression followed by our alliance with Russia to fight German Nazism which added further reason for many in Washington...even members of the military....to be soft on communism or if not somehow personally involved had friends and relatives and other associates who were.

Our universities were ripe recruiting grounds for the communist internationale....many succumbed to the notion that communism had something to offer.

However, the American people finally woke to the barbaric reality of communism after WWII was over...and the people.....(not to include the elitists, academians and members of the msm) began to understand the threat communsim posed to liberty.

Thus those who had something in their history regarding communism felt threatened when the tide turned against communism.....and they did their best to hide their history and were quite fearful of being exposed.

Then along came Senator McCarthy who began to do exactly that.

Thus these people who had something to hide and much to fear ....organized and began to demonize to the best of their ability Senator McCarthy and his drive to rid our government and military of communists and communist sympathizers.

With the help of the media they were very successful at creating the myth of McCarthyism that has endured to this day.

Not even to mention that the front-runner in the democratic partys nomination process is for all intents and purposes --a communist--as has even been pointed out by Bill Clintons top advisor.

Carville fires back at Sanders for 'hack' slam: 'At least I'm not a communist'

Communism in the United States | Jewish Women's Archive

It is interesting that you consider Sander's a communist. I suspect that you are old enough that you consider socialism as synonymous with communism, totalitarianism, and the end democracy.

Sander's is most popular with the young, those under 40. They grew up without fear of annihilation by the Red Menace in a world in which runaway capitalism was a far greater danger than creeping socialism. They envy the socialist countries in Europe where kids go to college without being saddled by a lifetime of debt, where healthcare is a right not just for those that can afford it, and the quality of life is not measure by the size of a bank account.

The milennials are stupid and have little knowledge of history.....and think they are entitled to free stuff cuz dey are just o so special dats what dere mommy told them. bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa take a hike boy hehheh

Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist

Three Nations That Tried Socialism and Rejected It

Why socialism always fails | American Enterprise Institute - AEI

Why Democratic Socialists Can't Claim Sweden, Denmark as Success Stories

And they will be running the country in a few years

The communists always promised things would be better in the future.....what happened was that things got even worse....look at the history of all the russian 5yr plans...how they failed....in a nutshell communism/socialism/marxism are all receipes for disaster.

Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Communism's deadliest foe

Telling the Truth about Communism — Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation

Communism as a state ideology is dead in Russia. This is official. “No ideology may be established as a state or obligatory one,” as stated in the Article 13 of Russia's Constitution adopted in 1993. This is a major difference compared to previous Soviet constitutions that emphasized the Communist Party as “the leading and guiding force of Soviet society and the nucleus of its political system.”

The "Five Year Plans" in Russian were a failure and died a slow death over 70 years ago. There still exists remnants of Stalin's communist but most of the bad old stuff in the USSR are gone today. However, that does make them an ally of the US.

 

[MacTheKnife]

The myth of "McCarthyism" is the greatest Orwellian fraud of our times. Liberals are fanatical liars, then as now. The portrayal of Sen. Joe McCarthy as a wild-eyed demagogue destroying innocent lives is sheer liberal hobgoblinism. Liberals weren't hiding under the bed during the McCarthy era. They were systematically undermining the nation's ability to defend itself, while waging a bellicose campaign of lies to blacken McCarthy's name. Liberals denounced McCarthy because they were afraid of getting caught, so they fought back like animals to hide their own collaboration with a regime as evil as the Nazis. As Whittaker Chambers said: "Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.".....Ann Coulter

 

[bripat9643]

The myth of "McCarthyism" is the greatest Orwellian fraud of our times. Liberals are fanatical liars, then as now. The portrayal of Sen. Joe McCarthy as a wild-eyed demagogue destroying innocent lives is sheer liberal hobgoblinism. Liberals weren't hiding under the bed during the McCarthy era. They were systematically undermining the nation's ability to defend itself, while waging a bellicose campaign of lies to blacken McCarthy's name. Liberals denounced McCarthy because they were afraid of getting caught, so they fought back like animals to hide their own collaboration with a regime as evil as the Nazis. As Whittaker Chambers said: "Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.".....Ann Coulter

 

[Dr Grump]

LOL this is one of the oldest troll threads on the internet. A variation on the "Hitler did nothing wrong" troll. People who post it know McCarthy was a toxic slime mold the same as anyone.

Well when you look at who has agreed with the OP, the word toxic slime does seem to slip of the tongue easily.

 

[bripat9643]

LOL this is one of the oldest troll threads on the internet. A variation on the "Hitler did nothing wrong" troll. People who post it know McCarthy was a toxic slime mold the same as anyone.

Well when you look at who has agreed with the OP, the word toxic slime does seem to slip of the tongue easily.

ROFL! Look at the douchebag hypocrite.

 

[MacTheKnife]

Venona
Decoding Soviet Espionage in America



By 1948 the accumulating evidence from other decoded Venona cables showed that the Soviets had recruited spies in virtually every major American government agency of military or diplomatic importance. American authorities learned that since 1942 the United States had been the target of a Soviet espionage onslaught involving dozens of professional Soviet intelligence officers and hundreds of Americans, many of whom were members of the American Communist party (CPUSA). The deciphered cables of the Venona Project identify 349 citizens, immigrants, and permanent residents of the United States who had had a covert relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies (see appendix A). Further, American cryptanalysts in the Venona Project deciphered only a fraction of the Soviet intelligence traffic, so it was only logical to conclude that many additional agents were discussed in the thousands of unread messages. Some were identified from other sources, such as defectors' testimony and the confessions of Soviet spies (see appendix B).

The deciphered Venona messages also showed that a disturbing number of high-ranking U.S. government officials consciously maintained a clandestine relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies and had passed extraordinarily sensitive information to the Soviet Union that had seriously damaged American interests. Harry White--the second most powerful official in the U.S. Treasury Department, one of the most influential officials in the government, and part of the American delegation at the founding of the United Nations--had advised the KGB about how American diplomatic strategy could be frustrated. A trusted personal assistant to President Franklin Roosevelt, Lauchlin Currie, warned the KGB that the FBI had started an investigation of one of the Soviets' key American agents, Gregory Silvermaster. This warning allowed Silvermaster, who headed a highly productive espionage ring, to escape detection and continue spying. Maurice Halperin, the head of a research section of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), then America's chief intelligence arm, turned over hundreds of pages of secret American diplomatic cables to the KGB. William Perl, a brilliant young government aeronautical scientist, provided the Soviets with the results of the highly secret tests and design experiments for American jet engines and jet aircraft. His betrayal assisted the Soviet Union in quickly overcoming the American technological lead in the development of jets. In the Korean War, U.S. military leaders expected the Air Force to dominate the skies, on the assumption that the Soviet aircraft used by North Korea and Communist China would be no match for American aircraft. They were shocked when Soviet MiG-15 jet fighters not only flew rings around U.S. propeller-driven aircraft but were conspicuously superior to the first generation of American jets as well. Only the hurried deployment of America's newest jet fighter, the F-86 Saber, allowed the United States to match the technological capabilities of the MiG-15. The Air Force prevailed, owing more to the skill of American pilots than to the design of American aircraft.

Venona

 

[Dr Grump]

Venona
Decoding Soviet Espionage in America



By 1948 the accumulating evidence from other decoded Venona cables showed that the Soviets had recruited spies in virtually every major American government agency of military or diplomatic importance. American authorities learned that since 1942 the United States had been the target of a Soviet espionage onslaught involving dozens of professional Soviet intelligence officers and hundreds of Americans, many of whom were members of the American Communist party (CPUSA). The deciphered cables of the Venona Project identify 349 citizens, immigrants, and permanent residents of the United States who had had a covert relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies (see appendix A). Further, American cryptanalysts in the Venona Project deciphered only a fraction of the Soviet intelligence traffic, so it was only logical to conclude that many additional agents were discussed in the thousands of unread messages. Some were identified from other sources, such as defectors' testimony and the confessions of Soviet spies (see appendix B).

The deciphered Venona messages also showed that a disturbing number of high-ranking U.S. government officials consciously maintained a clandestine relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies and had passed extraordinarily sensitive information to the Soviet Union that had seriously damaged American interests. Harry White--the second most powerful official in the U.S. Treasury Department, one of the most influential officials in the government, and part of the American delegation at the founding of the United Nations--had advised the KGB about how American diplomatic strategy could be frustrated. A trusted personal assistant to President Franklin Roosevelt, Lauchlin Currie, warned the KGB that the FBI had started an investigation of one of the Soviets' key American agents, Gregory Silvermaster. This warning allowed Silvermaster, who headed a highly productive espionage ring, to escape detection and continue spying. Maurice Halperin, the head of a research section of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), then America's chief intelligence arm, turned over hundreds of pages of secret American diplomatic cables to the KGB. William Perl, a brilliant young government aeronautical scientist, provided the Soviets with the results of the highly secret tests and design experiments for American jet engines and jet aircraft. His betrayal assisted the Soviet Union in quickly overcoming the American technological lead in the development of jets. In the Korean War, U.S. military leaders expected the Air Force to dominate the skies, on the assumption that the Soviet aircraft used by North Korea and Communist China would be no match for American aircraft. They were shocked when Soviet MiG-15 jet fighters not only flew rings around U.S. propeller-driven aircraft but were conspicuously superior to the first generation of American jets as well. Only the hurried deployment of America's newest jet fighter, the F-86 Saber, allowed the United States to match the technological capabilities of the MiG-15. The Air Force prevailed, owing more to the skill of American pilots than to the design of American aircraft.

Venona

Nobody gives a shit that they were hunting spies. Good for them. So they should have. What McCarthyism was, was a witch hunt. There were no checks and balances. The irony in this windbag, revisionist OP is that the things that McCarthy and all you other right-wing loons on this board are advocating is exactly how the Soviet Union was run. Guilty by association; throwing people to the dogs based on rumour and innuendo. And you whackadoodles are always accusing others of being anti-America yadda, yadda yadda when I'm hard pressed to find anything more unAmerican that the type of shit McCarthy got up to.

 

[bripat9643]

Venona
Decoding Soviet Espionage in America



By 1948 the accumulating evidence from other decoded Venona cables showed that the Soviets had recruited spies in virtually every major American government agency of military or diplomatic importance. American authorities learned that since 1942 the United States had been the target of a Soviet espionage onslaught involving dozens of professional Soviet intelligence officers and hundreds of Americans, many of whom were members of the American Communist party (CPUSA). The deciphered cables of the Venona Project identify 349 citizens, immigrants, and permanent residents of the United States who had had a covert relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies (see appendix A). Further, American cryptanalysts in the Venona Project deciphered only a fraction of the Soviet intelligence traffic, so it was only logical to conclude that many additional agents were discussed in the thousands of unread messages. Some were identified from other sources, such as defectors' testimony and the confessions of Soviet spies (see appendix B).

The deciphered Venona messages also showed that a disturbing number of high-ranking U.S. government officials consciously maintained a clandestine relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies and had passed extraordinarily sensitive information to the Soviet Union that had seriously damaged American interests. Harry White--the second most powerful official in the U.S. Treasury Department, one of the most influential officials in the government, and part of the American delegation at the founding of the United Nations--had advised the KGB about how American diplomatic strategy could be frustrated. A trusted personal assistant to President Franklin Roosevelt, Lauchlin Currie, warned the KGB that the FBI had started an investigation of one of the Soviets' key American agents, Gregory Silvermaster. This warning allowed Silvermaster, who headed a highly productive espionage ring, to escape detection and continue spying. Maurice Halperin, the head of a research section of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), then America's chief intelligence arm, turned over hundreds of pages of secret American diplomatic cables to the KGB. William Perl, a brilliant young government aeronautical scientist, provided the Soviets with the results of the highly secret tests and design experiments for American jet engines and jet aircraft. His betrayal assisted the Soviet Union in quickly overcoming the American technological lead in the development of jets. In the Korean War, U.S. military leaders expected the Air Force to dominate the skies, on the assumption that the Soviet aircraft used by North Korea and Communist China would be no match for American aircraft. They were shocked when Soviet MiG-15 jet fighters not only flew rings around U.S. propeller-driven aircraft but were conspicuously superior to the first generation of American jets as well. Only the hurried deployment of America's newest jet fighter, the F-86 Saber, allowed the United States to match the technological capabilities of the MiG-15. The Air Force prevailed, owing more to the skill of American pilots than to the design of American aircraft.

Venona

Nobody gives a shit that they were hunting spies. Good for them. So they should have. What McCarthyism was, was a witch hunt. There were no checks and balances. The irony in this windbag, revisionist OP is that the things that McCarthy and all you other right-wing loons on this board are advocating is exactly how the Soviet Union was run. Guilty by association; throwing people to the dogs based on rumour and innuendo. And you whackadoodles are always accusing others of being anti-America yadda, yadda yadda when I'm hard pressed to find anything more unAmerican that the type of shit McCarthy got up to.

All that happened is that they lost their sensitive government positions. Apparently you believe that we should allow spies to infest our government. You're a commie dumbass.

 

[MacTheKnife]

Venona
Decoding Soviet Espionage in America



By 1948 the accumulating evidence from other decoded Venona cables showed that the Soviets had recruited spies in virtually every major American government agency of military or diplomatic importance. American authorities learned that since 1942 the United States had been the target of a Soviet espionage onslaught involving dozens of professional Soviet intelligence officers and hundreds of Americans, many of whom were members of the American Communist party (CPUSA). The deciphered cables of the Venona Project identify 349 citizens, immigrants, and permanent residents of the United States who had had a covert relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies (see appendix A). Further, American cryptanalysts in the Venona Project deciphered only a fraction of the Soviet intelligence traffic, so it was only logical to conclude that many additional agents were discussed in the thousands of unread messages. Some were identified from other sources, such as defectors' testimony and the confessions of Soviet spies (see appendix B).

The deciphered Venona messages also showed that a disturbing number of high-ranking U.S. government officials consciously maintained a clandestine relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies and had passed extraordinarily sensitive information to the Soviet Union that had seriously damaged American interests. Harry White--the second most powerful official in the U.S. Treasury Department, one of the most influential officials in the government, and part of the American delegation at the founding of the United Nations--had advised the KGB about how American diplomatic strategy could be frustrated. A trusted personal assistant to President Franklin Roosevelt, Lauchlin Currie, warned the KGB that the FBI had started an investigation of one of the Soviets' key American agents, Gregory Silvermaster. This warning allowed Silvermaster, who headed a highly productive espionage ring, to escape detection and continue spying. Maurice Halperin, the head of a research section of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), then America's chief intelligence arm, turned over hundreds of pages of secret American diplomatic cables to the KGB. William Perl, a brilliant young government aeronautical scientist, provided the Soviets with the results of the highly secret tests and design experiments for American jet engines and jet aircraft. His betrayal assisted the Soviet Union in quickly overcoming the American technological lead in the development of jets. In the Korean War, U.S. military leaders expected the Air Force to dominate the skies, on the assumption that the Soviet aircraft used by North Korea and Communist China would be no match for American aircraft. They were shocked when Soviet MiG-15 jet fighters not only flew rings around U.S. propeller-driven aircraft but were conspicuously superior to the first generation of American jets as well. Only the hurried deployment of America's newest jet fighter, the F-86 Saber, allowed the United States to match the technological capabilities of the MiG-15. The Air Force prevailed, owing more to the skill of American pilots than to the design of American aircraft.

Venona

Nobody gives a shit that they were hunting spies. Good for them. So they should have. What McCarthyism was, was a witch hunt. There were no checks and balances. The irony in this windbag, revisionist OP is that the things that McCarthy and all you other right-wing loons on this board are advocating is exactly how the Soviet Union was run. Guilty by association; throwing people to the dogs based on rumour and innuendo. And you whackadoodles are always accusing others of being anti-America yadda, yadda yadda when I'm hard pressed to find anything more unAmerican that the type of shit McCarthy got up to.

Laughable....actually hillarious how some dupe of the media can display such ignorance.

Checks and Balances......bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa It is rare to see such rampant stupidity even on this board.

Anyhow....can you tell all of us exactly who was thrown to the dogs? I mean besides Senator Joe McCarthy American Hero.


No matter how much evidence vindicating the late Sen. Joe McCarthy comes out, what we call McCarthyism remains anathema in American life. Simply to utter the word is to deep-freeze debate, even thought itself. Even as we learn about the history-changing extent to which American traitors working for the Kremlin penetrated and subverted the U.S. government (including many individuals investigated by McCarthy), the unsupportable fact remains that nothing in American public life is worse than to be compared to the man best-known for his uncompromising fight against the secret, massive assault on our nation. When will we realize it's time to make amends and honor his memory?
Thank Joe McCarthy, don't demonize him - WND

 

[bripat9643]

Venona
Decoding Soviet Espionage in America



By 1948 the accumulating evidence from other decoded Venona cables showed that the Soviets had recruited spies in virtually every major American government agency of military or diplomatic importance. American authorities learned that since 1942 the United States had been the target of a Soviet espionage onslaught involving dozens of professional Soviet intelligence officers and hundreds of Americans, many of whom were members of the American Communist party (CPUSA). The deciphered cables of the Venona Project identify 349 citizens, immigrants, and permanent residents of the United States who had had a covert relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies (see appendix A). Further, American cryptanalysts in the Venona Project deciphered only a fraction of the Soviet intelligence traffic, so it was only logical to conclude that many additional agents were discussed in the thousands of unread messages. Some were identified from other sources, such as defectors' testimony and the confessions of Soviet spies (see appendix B).

The deciphered Venona messages also showed that a disturbing number of high-ranking U.S. government officials consciously maintained a clandestine relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies and had passed extraordinarily sensitive information to the Soviet Union that had seriously damaged American interests. Harry White--the second most powerful official in the U.S. Treasury Department, one of the most influential officials in the government, and part of the American delegation at the founding of the United Nations--had advised the KGB about how American diplomatic strategy could be frustrated. A trusted personal assistant to President Franklin Roosevelt, Lauchlin Currie, warned the KGB that the FBI had started an investigation of one of the Soviets' key American agents, Gregory Silvermaster. This warning allowed Silvermaster, who headed a highly productive espionage ring, to escape detection and continue spying. Maurice Halperin, the head of a research section of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), then America's chief intelligence arm, turned over hundreds of pages of secret American diplomatic cables to the KGB. William Perl, a brilliant young government aeronautical scientist, provided the Soviets with the results of the highly secret tests and design experiments for American jet engines and jet aircraft. His betrayal assisted the Soviet Union in quickly overcoming the American technological lead in the development of jets. In the Korean War, U.S. military leaders expected the Air Force to dominate the skies, on the assumption that the Soviet aircraft used by North Korea and Communist China would be no match for American aircraft. They were shocked when Soviet MiG-15 jet fighters not only flew rings around U.S. propeller-driven aircraft but were conspicuously superior to the first generation of American jets as well. Only the hurried deployment of America's newest jet fighter, the F-86 Saber, allowed the United States to match the technological capabilities of the MiG-15. The Air Force prevailed, owing more to the skill of American pilots than to the design of American aircraft.

Venona

Nobody gives a shit that they were hunting spies. Good for them. So they should have. What McCarthyism was, was a witch hunt. There were no checks and balances. The irony in this windbag, revisionist OP is that the things that McCarthy and all you other right-wing loons on this board are advocating is exactly how the Soviet Union was run. Guilty by association; throwing people to the dogs based on rumour and innuendo. And you whackadoodles are always accusing others of being anti-America yadda, yadda yadda when I'm hard pressed to find anything more unAmerican that the type of shit McCarthy got up to.

Laughable....actually hillarious how some dupe of the media can display such ignorance.

Checks and Balances......bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa It is rare to see such rampant stupidity even on this board.

Anyhow....can you tell all of us exactly who was thrown to the dogs? I mean besides Senator Joe McCarthy American Hero.

So what's the proper "balance" between national security and the rights of communist spies?