The Myth of McCarthyism

[MacTheKnife]

and to add to your mis?ery.............say I am very educated in Nuclear Technolgy and have been trained in how to build a dirty bomb....do you have any idea what a dirty bomb could do in a city like N.Y.
Even obama said his biggest worfry was the detonation of some kind of nuclear device in NYC.


Yes, Obama Really Is Worried About a Manhattan Nuke

 

[Flopper]

It's only bad if you belief the accused have right to defend themselves, that people have the right to free speech, and state their support for any ideology regardless of how unpopular it might be without being attacked and ridiculed by your government.

What you and your ilk seem unable to grasp is the concept of National Security.

Let me try and explain it in a manner you might be able to understand......every person in America has a right to self defense aka if someone is trying to harm or kill you...by law you have the right to defend your life and limb.

Likewise....any Nation including America has a right to defend it's people ......during WWII would you have advocated that those with the nazi philosophy be protected and even allowed to work in our government? Do you think they(nazis and nazi sympathizers) should have been allowed to join up with our military forces?

Do you think the Rosenbergs should have been granted immunity instead of being executed?

I think what you can't grasp is that every American has rights guaranteed by the constitution which include the right to freedom of speech without censorship by government nor reprisal for exercising that right. Even more basic is the human right to believe in whatever ideology you chose. Only when your beliefs and opinions turn into actions that violate our laws should government intervene. We commonly refer to this our personal freedoms.

What if my ideology is a conviction based on my interpetation of my religion that as soon as I can get into America I will kill as many Americans as I possibly can?

I have no record of crime, there is not any kind of proof whatsoever that I am a violent person. In fact I have many friends in America and we all have the same ideology....though most do not share my belief in committing violence in America yet many of them are willing to help me do what I must.

Thus according to your view...I should be allowed into America because I have not yet committed violations of your laws.

No. Our constitution grants very limited rights to foreigners, basally the 5th amendment. Our laws allow the government to decide who may and may not enter the country. Any foreigner judged to be a danger can be denied entrance.

How would I be judged to be dangerous?.....I have no record and there is no kind of evidence that would show I was dangerous.

If the person is a citizen of a country that does not require a visa, such as Britain and there is no history of violence and there no flag on a passport indicating a possible threat, then it would be very unlikely that immigration would stop him. The same could be said for a Muslim extremist or a serial killer or any person with a deep hatred of America who has remained closeted with no record.

 

[Flopper]

and to add to your mis?ery.............say I am very educated in Nuclear Technolgy and have been trained in how to build a dirty bomb....do you have any idea what a dirty bomb could do in a city like N.Y.
Even obama said his biggest worfry was the detonation of some kind of nuclear device in NYC.


Yes, Obama Really Is Worried About a Manhattan Nuke

I have no suggestion as how to keep this person out of country. What do you propose?

 

[MacTheKnife]

and to add to your mis?ery.............say I am very educated in Nuclear Technolgy and have been trained in how to build a dirty bomb....do you have any idea what a dirty bomb could do in a city like N.Y.
Even obama said his biggest worfry was the detonation of some kind of nuclear device in NYC.


Yes, Obama Really Is Worried About a Manhattan Nuke

I have no suggestion as how to keep this person out of country. What do you propose?

We have a huge, huge problem regarding how to keep out those who would do harm to America....and we have a equally big problem regarding how to deal with those already here that are of a suspicious nature and those that are actually very dangerous as it is known Iran has sleeper cells here already....probably a huge factor in Trumps exercising a lot of caution with Iran....though liberals are now on his case about all those soldiers that suffered concussions from the Iranian attack.....seemingly wanting to go to war over that.....forgetting how they voiced extreme fears before Trump was elected that he would lead us into war.

Your honesty regarding this very serious matter is appreciated. I think Trumps critics should try and put themselves in his shoes.....he has a multidude of extremely serious problems to deal with as well as the democratic party attempting to sabotage and impeach him.

Truly disgraceful how so many dis-respect our President.

How many could deal with all that and still be able to carry on? .Trump deserves much credit....very tough and lots of stamina.

 

[Flopper]

and to add to your mis?ery.............say I am very educated in Nuclear Technolgy and have been trained in how to build a dirty bomb....do you have any idea what a dirty bomb could do in a city like N.Y.
Even obama said his biggest worfry was the detonation of some kind of nuclear device in NYC.


Yes, Obama Really Is Worried About a Manhattan Nuke

I have no suggestion as how to keep this person out of country. What do you propose?

We have a huge, huge problem regarding how to keep out those who would do harm to America....and we have a equally big problem regarding how to deal with those already here that are of a suspicious nature and those that are actually very dangerous as it is known Iran has sleeper cells here already....probably a huge factor in Trumps exercising a lot of caution with Iran....though liberals are now on his case about all those soldiers that suffered concussions from the Iranian attack.....seemingly wanting to go to war over that.....forgetting how they voiced extreme fears before Trump was elected that he would lead us into war.

Your honesty regarding this very serious matter is appreciated. I think Trumps critics should try and put themselves in his shoes.....he has a multidude of extremely serious problems to deal with as well as the democratic party attempting to sabotage and impeach him.

Truly disgraceful how so many dis-respect our President.

How many could deal with all that and still be able to carry on? .Trump deserves much credit....very tough and lots of stamina.

I suspect we will have to deal with terrorism from abroad much the same way we deal with domestic terrorism which is lots of police work and a lot of time and effort. Although terrorism will always remain a threat, it is far from being a major problem in the US. In 2018, 32,000 in the world died in terrorist attacks and 11 in the US.

 

[MacTheKnife]

and to add to your mis?ery.............say I am very educated in Nuclear Technolgy and have been trained in how to build a dirty bomb....do you have any idea what a dirty bomb could do in a city like N.Y.
Even obama said his biggest worfry was the detonation of some kind of nuclear device in NYC.


Yes, Obama Really Is Worried About a Manhattan Nuke

I have no suggestion as how to keep this person out of country. What do you propose?

We have a huge, huge problem regarding how to keep out those who would do harm to America....and we have a equally big problem regarding how to deal with those already here that are of a suspicious nature and those that are actually very dangerous as it is known Iran has sleeper cells here already....probably a huge factor in Trumps exercising a lot of caution with Iran....though liberals are now on his case about all those soldiers that suffered concussions from the Iranian attack.....seemingly wanting to go to war over that.....forgetting how they voiced extreme fears before Trump was elected that he would lead us into war.

Your honesty regarding this very serious matter is appreciated. I think Trumps critics should try and put themselves in his shoes.....he has a multidude of extremely serious problems to deal with as well as the democratic party attempting to sabotage and impeach him.

Truly disgraceful how so many dis-respect our President.

How many could deal with all that and still be able to carry on? .Trump deserves much credit....very tough and lots of stamina.

I suspect we will have to deal with terrorism from abroad much the same way we deal with domestic terrorism which is lots of police work and a lot of time and effort. Although terrorism will always remain a threat, it is far from being a major problem in the US. In 2018, 32,000 in the world died in terrorist attacks and 11 in the US.

Unfortunately time is on their side and with their increasing knowledge and use of technology we remain vulnerable and the more so as time goes on. For the first time in our history a small group of people can conceivably with the use of wmd's destroy this nation. I am not going to go into details of how it could be done but just remember what the collapsing of a couple of skyscrapers did to America.

Bush wasted the moral superiority he had at the time of the WTC attacks...if bush had been more of a leader with some vision he would have been able to establish a coalition that would have dealt a crushing blow to islamic terrorism....instead he went after a cheap victory by attacking Iraq...though it turned out not to be so cheap...bush talked the talk aka........if you are not with us--you are against us.

But he refused to walk the walk.

Also we need to remember that for a very long period of time we relied on the doctrine of mutually assured destruction....aka...Russia knew that if they launched a nuclear attack ...so would we. Nobody wanted that...thus the cold war.

The MAD doctrine no longer applies in regards to the Islamic terrorists......they would be quite willing....or at least some of them to use WMD's despite any sort of reprisal we might or could make.

Dick Cheney admitted this early on.

Why Mutually Assured Destruction Can No Longer Keep the World from Annihilation

 

[Daryl Hunt]

and to add to your mis?ery.............say I am very educated in Nuclear Technolgy and have been trained in how to build a dirty bomb....do you have any idea what a dirty bomb could do in a city like N.Y.
Even obama said his biggest worfry was the detonation of some kind of nuclear device in NYC.


Yes, Obama Really Is Worried About a Manhattan Nuke

I have no suggestion as how to keep this person out of country. What do you propose?

We have a huge, huge problem regarding how to keep out those who would do harm to America....and we have a equally big problem regarding how to deal with those already here that are of a suspicious nature and those that are actually very dangerous as it is known Iran has sleeper cells here already....probably a huge factor in Trumps exercising a lot of caution with Iran....though liberals are now on his case about all those soldiers that suffered concussions from the Iranian attack.....seemingly wanting to go to war over that.....forgetting how they voiced extreme fears before Trump was elected that he would lead us into war.

Your honesty regarding this very serious matter is appreciated. I think Trumps critics should try and put themselves in his shoes.....he has a multidude of extremely serious problems to deal with as well as the democratic party attempting to sabotage and impeach him.

Truly disgraceful how so many dis-respect our President.

How many could deal with all that and still be able to carry on? .Trump deserves much credit....very tough and lots of stamina.

Rump deserves a nice Prison Cell. And then he can have all the respect that every other Prisoner receives.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Yet as has been revealed for some time now McCarthy was correct.

Communism - McCarthy Was Right


Outrageously even to this day the democats/liberals/socialists/marxists/communists continue to villify and lie about him despite the fact they should know better and perhaps they do but as per sop they never let the truth get in the way of their narrative.


The Vindication of Joseph McCarthy - The Objective Standard



On This Day: McCarthy warns of communists in State Department

Well, lets see. Trump giving Russians classified information, and selling out the US to an ex Soviet KGB agent. Then sends love letters to North Korea. Then A plane load of Republican Senators fly to Russia on the 4th of July to sell out the US to the Russians. Now we have Republican Senators openly taking money from Russian oligarchs, and brazenly allowing the Kremlin to interfere in our elections. Then the Secretary of State gives Crimea away to the Russians, and tells our ally, sorry, thats just the way it is, and lets Belarus have all of the Ukraine oil they want.

Damn. You're right. the commies have infiltrated the government. And it's so complete, they have an asset in the White House, assets in the State Dept., and assets in the Senate. They have effectively co opted the entire Republican party.

AND trump pissed all over the Monroe Doctrine by letting putin and russia into Venezuela.

Now putin and russia have a military foothold on our door step.

Thanks to trump and the republicans.

How is Trump responsible for Russia being in Venezuela? How do you propose he could have stopped them, a nuclear exchange?

Perhaps any is unaware that Venezuela is an entirely separate, sovereign nation, which we do not control.

Or perhaps he thinks anything bad that happens anywhere in this solar system while Trump is President is automatically Trump's fault.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Yet as has been revealed for some time now McCarthy was correct.

Communism - McCarthy Was Right


Outrageously even to this day the democats/liberals/socialists/marxists/communists continue to villify and lie about him despite the fact they should know better and perhaps they do but as per sop they never let the truth get in the way of their narrative.


The Vindication of Joseph McCarthy - The Objective Standard



On This Day: McCarthy warns of communists in State Department

Well, lets see. Trump giving Russians classified information, and selling out the US to an ex Soviet KGB agent. Then sends love letters to North Korea. Then A plane load of Republican Senators fly to Russia on the 4th of July to sell out the US to the Russians. Now we have Republican Senators openly taking money from Russian oligarchs, and brazenly allowing the Kremlin to interfere in our elections. Then the Secretary of State gives Crimea away to the Russians, and tells our ally, sorry, thats just the way it is, and lets Belarus have all of the Ukraine oil they want.

Damn. You're right. the commies have infiltrated the government. And it's so complete, they have an asset in the White House, assets in the State Dept., and assets in the Senate. They have effectively co opted the entire Republican party.

AND trump pissed all over the Monroe Doctrine by letting putin and russia into Venezuela.

Now putin and russia have a military foothold on our door step.

Thanks to trump and the republicans.

?
What military assets do you think Russia has in Venezuela

are you playing checkers?

russia plays the long game....

MILITARY ASSETS;

1. being in venezuela so close to the southern US border
2. over the next few years we will read reports about them establishing those bases.
3. trump is an asset. He will let them do this and he won't care.

What's that crinkling noise? Oh, it's only any's tinfoil hat.

 

[Cecilie1200]

It is time to examine the new evidence objectively and to reassess McCarthy, his activities, and Soviet espionage penetration of the U.S. government. In so doing we perform an act of justice to a wrongly maligned man, gain greater knowledge of the Cold War’s early days, and sound a warning regarding possible espionage within and against the U.S. government by current or future enemies.

To reassess McCarthy accurately requires knowledge of (1) the murderously evil nature of Communism, (2) the massive Soviet espionage penetration of the U.S. government, and (3) the specifics of numerous cases regarding McCarthy’s efforts to expose that espionage.

Regarding the first of these, readers are encouraged to read my recent essay, “The Socialist Holocaust and its American Deniers,”5 and its sources, especially The Black Book of Communism, which provides data taken, in part, from the files of numerous former Communist regimes, including the Soviets. Suffice it to say here that, worldwide, Communism has been responsible for the murder of one hundred million innocent civilians.6 More, it has done so in strict adherence to its cardinal principle: Because members of the owning class cruelly exploit members of the working class, the former must be expunged in ruthless class warfare.

Items two and three—Soviet espionage penetration of the U.S. government and details regarding McCarthy’s efforts to expose it—are the focus of this essay.

Soviet Espionage Penetration of the U.S. Government
The Soviets targeted the Communists’ main ideological enemy, the capitalist United States, even during World War II, when the two nations were supposedly allied in a death struggle against fascism. Soviet agents achieved widespread penetration of the American government, spying, stealing secrets, ultimately supplying data enabling Stalin’s blood-drenched regime to develop an atomic weapon years earlier than otherwise.

The story reads like a spy thriller. . . .The Vindication of Joseph McCarthy - The Objective Standard

McCarthy didn't do diddly shit in catching spy. He was driven by a desire to expose people with ideas and opinions that could be interpreted as Communist. The FBI did the investigations and integrations that lead to convictions. Hoover did turn over results of investigations to McCarthy in order to conduct his inquisitions. Most of the people that McCarthy called to testify never did. They met with investigators and made deals, usually confessing their sins and often naming others avoiding testifying or any criminal charges. McCarthy wanted celebrities to testify in order to get public notice so most of the little fish were never in hot seat.

What brought McCarthy down was the Army herrings. By 1954 McCarthy, who was losing the support of many because of his bullying tactics and unsubstantiated charges, finally overreached himself when he accused several U.S. Army officers of Communist subversion. President Dwight D. Eisenhower was fed up and pushed for an investigation of his charges, and the televised hearings exposed McCarthy as a reckless and excessive tyrant who never produced proper documentation for any of his claims. By mid-year, McCarthy was himself being investigated by a republican controlled Senate in a resolution of censure.
Albert Einstein Typed Letter Signed McCarthy | The Raab Collection

Bullshite.......like so many others you have absorbed the propaganda spread by the liberal media.





President Harry Truman’s Secretary of State at the time, Dean Acheson, was well known as a man sympathetic to Communism and Communists. As far back as the 1930s Acheson had worked as a lawyer on behalf of Stalin’s regime, prior to the diplomatic recognition of the Soviet Union by the United States, and recently he had ignored reports about the Communist Party connections of his protege at the State Department, Alger Hiss. Acheson also had been the chief U.S. advisor at the Yalta Conference, in February 1945, which consigned eastern Europe to Communist rule, and he presided over the drafting of the United Nations Charter. In the State Department Acheson fostered the careers of Communists and stifled the careers of anti-Communists.

Furthermore, as Ohio’s Republican Senator Robert Taft said at the time, “Pro-Communist policies of the State Department fully justify Joe McCarthy in his demand for an investigation.”

Grand Scale of Subversion


Franklin Delano Roosevelt (“FDR”)
Communist infiltration of the U.S. government had occurred on a grand scale during the reign of Franklin Roosevelt. Congressman Martin Dies, Democrat of Texas and chairman of the House Committee on Un-American Activities from its inception in 1938 until 1945, had warned Roosevelt in 1940 that there were thousands of Communists and pro-Communists on the government payroll, but FDR refused to take action, saying:

“I do not believe in Communism any more than you do, but there is nothing wrong with the Communists in this country. Several of the best friends I have are Communists. . . .

“I do not regard the Communists as any present or future threat to our country; in fact, I look upon Russia as our strongest ally in the years to come. As I told you when you began your investigation, you should confine yourself to Nazis and Fascists. While I do not believe in Communism, Russia is far better off and the world is safer under Communism than under the Czars.”

Under the circumstances, McCarthy’s charge that there were 57 known Communists in the State Department seems very modest.

A Maverick for the Truth

McCarthy had been a maverick from the beginning. In 1949 he had dared champion the cause of German prisoners of war held in connection with the alleged “Malmédy massacre.” In truth, what had happened near the Belgian town of Malmédy in December 1944 was unclear at the time, part of what U.S. General Thomas T. Handy, who in 1949 was the commander in chief of U.S. forces in Europe, called “a confused, mobile, and desperate combat action.” It is known now that a number of American soldiers who had surrendered there to the Germans were shortly thereafter killed in cross fire when their captors, who were marching them to a rear area, were engaged by other U.S. units. When their bodies were found by U.S. forces afterward with their hands tied behind their backs, however, it appeared that they might have been deliberately killed.

After the war, Germans who had taken part in the fighting at Malmédy were turned over to U.S. Army Colonel A.H. Rosenfeld and his Jewish underlings for “interrogation.” The prisoners were arbitrarily reduced to civilian status so that they would not be protected by the Geneva Convention, and brutal torture was used to extract confessions. When 18-year-old prisoner Arvid Freimuth hanged himself after repeated beatings rather than sign a “confession,” the prosecutors were permitted to use as “evidence” the unsigned statement which they themselves had contrived.

McCarthy dared to speak against this officially sanctioned lynching, when almost no one else had the courage to do so. By fearlessly championing the underdogs, the defeated and vilified Germans, and speaking out against the actual atrocities committed by self-righteous aliens in American uniform, the Senator demonstrated the rare moral courage that later propelled him into the forefront of the struggle against Communism.

The Senate Judiciary Committee, chaired by Senator Raymond Baldwin, Republican of Connecticut, was assigned to investigate the charges of torture, but whitewashed them instead. On July 26, 1949, Senator McCarthy withdrew in disgust from the hearings and announced in a speech on the Senate floor that two members of the Committee, Senator Baldwin and Senator Estes Kefauver, Democrat of Tennessee, had law partners among the Army interrogators they were supposedly investigating. This was in several ways a preview of things to come.

The Jews showed instant hostility toward anyone who interfered with their campaign of vengeance against the conquered Germans, and so they began turning their big guns in the media against McCarthy: a December 1949 poll of news correspondents covering the United States Senate already had reporters branding McCarthy “the worst Senator” — a high honor indeed

James Forrestal: a patriot who fought subversion, and who died under mysterious circumstances.
When McCarthy had arrived in Washington as a freshman Senator in 1946, he had been invited to lunch by Secretary of the Navy James Forrestal. McCarthy writes:

“Before meeting Jim Forrestal I thought we were losing to international Communism because of incompetence and stupidity on the part of our planners. I mentioned that to Forrestal. I shall forever remember his answer. He said, ‘McCarthy, consistency has never been a mark of stupidity. If they were merely stupid they would occasionally make a mistake in our favor.’ This phrase struck me so forcefully that I have often used it since.”

Considering the destructive policies that thrived in Washington, McCarthy concluded that to fight Communism effectively it was not enough to denounce Communism in general; anyone — even a Communist — could claim to oppose Communism. The Senator decided that it was necessary to identify those responsible for treasonous policies and then accuse them on the basis of what they actually had done, not on the basis of the ideas to which they paid lip service.

A special investigating subcommittee chaired by Senator Millard Tydings, Democrat of Maryland, was set up purportedly to investigate McCarthy’s claim that Communists and pro-Communists were being harbored in the State Department. In reality, as Tydings himself admitted, the purpose was to silence McCarthy. Tydings boasted, “Let me have McCarthy for three days in public hearings, and he will never show his face in the Senate again.” Tydings’ effort to discredit the upstart patriot would be heavily aided by the major media.

One of the reporters present at the hearings was Elmer Davis, a prominent radio commentator who had been head of the Office of War Information (OWI). McCarthy noted:

“Many of the [principals in the] cases I was about to present had once been employees in the OWI under Davis and then had moved into the State Department. As I glanced at Davis I recalled that Stanislaw Mikolajczyk, one of the anti-Communist leaders of Poland, had warned the State Department, while Davis was head of the OWI, that OWI broadcasts were ‘following the Communist line consistently,’ and that the broadcasts ‘might well have emanated from Moscow itself.’ There could be no doubt how Davis would report the story. . . .

“At one of the other tables I saw [left-wing, muckraking columnist] Drew Pearson’s men. I could not help but remember that Pearson had employed a member of the Communist Party, Andrew Older, to write Pearson’s stories on the House Committee on Un-American Activities and that another one of Pearson’s limited staff was David Karr, who had previously worked for the Communist Party’s official publication, the Daily Worker. No doubt about how Pearson would cover the story. . . .

“As I waited for the chairman to open the hearing I, of course, knew the left-wing elements of the press would twist and distort the story to protect every Communist whom I exposed, but frankly I had no conception of how far the dishonest news coverage would go.”

In the case of Owen Lattimore, the testimony of McCarthy’s chief witness, ex-Communist Louis Budenz, was widely misrepresented. Lattimore was a scholar on Far Eastern affairs employed by the State Department as a consultant; he had advised the State Department that Chinese Communist leader Mao Tse-Tung was merely “a liberal agrarian reformer” at a time when Washington was still unsure how to react to Mao’s efforts to overthrow the Chinese government. In McCarthy’s words:

“[Budenz] . . . testified that . . . [Lattimore], who had been employed by the government, consulted for years by State Department officials on Far Eastern policy, and looked to by newspapermen and magazine editors for news on Far Eastern trends, had been a member of the Communist Party.”



McCarthy’s Methods


Joseph McCarthy speaks on KFAB. According to professor Revilo Oliver, a CIA officer told McCarthy in 1950 “Senator, you said there were 57 known Communists in the State Department. If you had access to the files of my agency, you would know that there is absolute proof that there are ten times that many. But Senator, you do not realize the magnitude and the power of the conspiracy you are attacking. They will destroy you — they will destroy you utterly.”


Make no mistake about it, McCarthy did cause considerable discomfort to some people: to the alien subversives and traitors whose ultimate goal was and still is the New World Order. It was these people who, in their effort to silence McCarthy, ironically characterized him as an enemy of free speech. The First Amendment, of course, had been drafted precisely to protect men like McCarthy, who dared to identify treason in high places.

There were undoubtedly, however, some sincere, patriotic Americans who agreed with McCarthy’s aim of removing Communists from government, but who found his method, with all of its sensationalism and public-relations gimmickry, distasteful. McCarthy’s method was, as he himself explained, a last resort:

“I have followed the method of publicly exposing the truth about men who, because of incompetence or treason, were betraying this nation. Another method would be to take the evidence to the President and ask him to discharge those who were serving the Communist cause. A third method would be to give the facts to the proper Senate committee which had the power to hire investigators and subpoena witnesses and records. The second and third methods . . . were tried without success. . . . The only method left to me was to present the truth to the American people. This I did.”

People who criticized McCarthy’s public accusations merely as being in poor taste clearly did not appreciate the gravity of the situation and the necessity for taking action. Also it should be noted that McCarthy had not wanted to read his original list of 57 subversives publicly, but the Tydings Committee required it of him. According to the Congressional Record of Feb 20, 1950, p. 2049, McCarthy protested on the Senate floor:

“I think . . . it would be improper to make the names public until the appropriate Senate Committee can meet in executive session and get them. . . . It might leave a wrong impression.”

Unfortunately, “the wrong impression” was exactly what the Tydings Committee wished to promote. In other words, contrary to the reputation for “recklessness” that was applied to him, McCarthy exercised his First Amendment right with great care.



In the discrediting of McCarthy, there is no doubt that there was a conspiracy at work. We know this because men who were privy to the conspiracy later wrote books about it. The activities of the conspirators were, of course, necessarily subtle; Eisenhower himself studiously avoided even mentioning McCarthy’s name in public, and the media coverage was almost unbelievably biased. Thus, for the general public, the arrangements which brought down McCarthy were a mystery, though in essence they were very simple: McCarthy was maneuvered into an awkward position, the major media portrayed him as unfavorably as possible, and his colleagues deserted him......sound familiar? It should.

McCarthy was the one man in Washington, D.C., who bucked the bipartisan pressure to be polite to America’s enemies and to “get along by going along.” He was the one man who took anti-Communism seriously and was willing to do something about it.


The Destruction of Joe McCarthy

I don't think anyone questions the fact that there were many communist in the US as well as many people that believed in socialism. I have no problem pursuing those that commit treasonous acts against our nation. They should be treated as any criminal, apprehended, charged, tried, convicted, and punished. However, for government to destroy people lives because of their beliefs and opinions is wrong. It was just as wrong in the US as it was in Red China and Nazi Germany.

And when you finally, at long last, get around to naming the people Joe McCarthy "destroyed", you get to make that argument. Until then, it is summarily dismissed.

 

[Cecilie1200]

It is time to examine the new evidence objectively and to reassess McCarthy, his activities, and Soviet espionage penetration of the U.S. government. In so doing we perform an act of justice to a wrongly maligned man, gain greater knowledge of the Cold War’s early days, and sound a warning regarding possible espionage within and against the U.S. government by current or future enemies.

To reassess McCarthy accurately requires knowledge of (1) the murderously evil nature of Communism, (2) the massive Soviet espionage penetration of the U.S. government, and (3) the specifics of numerous cases regarding McCarthy’s efforts to expose that espionage.

Regarding the first of these, readers are encouraged to read my recent essay, “The Socialist Holocaust and its American Deniers,”5 and its sources, especially The Black Book of Communism, which provides data taken, in part, from the files of numerous former Communist regimes, including the Soviets. Suffice it to say here that, worldwide, Communism has been responsible for the murder of one hundred million innocent civilians.6 More, it has done so in strict adherence to its cardinal principle: Because members of the owning class cruelly exploit members of the working class, the former must be expunged in ruthless class warfare.

Items two and three—Soviet espionage penetration of the U.S. government and details regarding McCarthy’s efforts to expose it—are the focus of this essay.

Soviet Espionage Penetration of the U.S. Government
The Soviets targeted the Communists’ main ideological enemy, the capitalist United States, even during World War II, when the two nations were supposedly allied in a death struggle against fascism. Soviet agents achieved widespread penetration of the American government, spying, stealing secrets, ultimately supplying data enabling Stalin’s blood-drenched regime to develop an atomic weapon years earlier than otherwise.

The story reads like a spy thriller. . . .The Vindication of Joseph McCarthy - The Objective Standard

McCarthy didn't do diddly shit in catching spy. He was driven by a desire to expose people with ideas and opinions that could be interpreted as Communist. The FBI did the investigations and integrations that lead to convictions. Hoover did turn over results of investigations to McCarthy in order to conduct his inquisitions. Most of the people that McCarthy called to testify never did. They met with investigators and made deals, usually confessing their sins and often naming others avoiding testifying or any criminal charges. McCarthy wanted celebrities to testify in order to get public notice so most of the little fish were never in hot seat.

What brought McCarthy down was the Army herrings. By 1954 McCarthy, who was losing the support of many because of his bullying tactics and unsubstantiated charges, finally overreached himself when he accused several U.S. Army officers of Communist subversion. President Dwight D. Eisenhower was fed up and pushed for an investigation of his charges, and the televised hearings exposed McCarthy as a reckless and excessive tyrant who never produced proper documentation for any of his claims. By mid-year, McCarthy was himself being investigated by a republican controlled Senate in a resolution of censure.
Albert Einstein Typed Letter Signed McCarthy | The Raab Collection

Bullshite.......like so many others you have absorbed the propaganda spread by the liberal media.





President Harry Truman’s Secretary of State at the time, Dean Acheson, was well known as a man sympathetic to Communism and Communists. As far back as the 1930s Acheson had worked as a lawyer on behalf of Stalin’s regime, prior to the diplomatic recognition of the Soviet Union by the United States, and recently he had ignored reports about the Communist Party connections of his protege at the State Department, Alger Hiss. Acheson also had been the chief U.S. advisor at the Yalta Conference, in February 1945, which consigned eastern Europe to Communist rule, and he presided over the drafting of the United Nations Charter. In the State Department Acheson fostered the careers of Communists and stifled the careers of anti-Communists.

Furthermore, as Ohio’s Republican Senator Robert Taft said at the time, “Pro-Communist policies of the State Department fully justify Joe McCarthy in his demand for an investigation.”

Grand Scale of Subversion


Franklin Delano Roosevelt (“FDR”)
Communist infiltration of the U.S. government had occurred on a grand scale during the reign of Franklin Roosevelt. Congressman Martin Dies, Democrat of Texas and chairman of the House Committee on Un-American Activities from its inception in 1938 until 1945, had warned Roosevelt in 1940 that there were thousands of Communists and pro-Communists on the government payroll, but FDR refused to take action, saying:

“I do not believe in Communism any more than you do, but there is nothing wrong with the Communists in this country. Several of the best friends I have are Communists. . . .

“I do not regard the Communists as any present or future threat to our country; in fact, I look upon Russia as our strongest ally in the years to come. As I told you when you began your investigation, you should confine yourself to Nazis and Fascists. While I do not believe in Communism, Russia is far better off and the world is safer under Communism than under the Czars.”

Under the circumstances, McCarthy’s charge that there were 57 known Communists in the State Department seems very modest.

A Maverick for the Truth

McCarthy had been a maverick from the beginning. In 1949 he had dared champion the cause of German prisoners of war held in connection with the alleged “Malmédy massacre.” In truth, what had happened near the Belgian town of Malmédy in December 1944 was unclear at the time, part of what U.S. General Thomas T. Handy, who in 1949 was the commander in chief of U.S. forces in Europe, called “a confused, mobile, and desperate combat action.” It is known now that a number of American soldiers who had surrendered there to the Germans were shortly thereafter killed in cross fire when their captors, who were marching them to a rear area, were engaged by other U.S. units. When their bodies were found by U.S. forces afterward with their hands tied behind their backs, however, it appeared that they might have been deliberately killed.

After the war, Germans who had taken part in the fighting at Malmédy were turned over to U.S. Army Colonel A.H. Rosenfeld and his Jewish underlings for “interrogation.” The prisoners were arbitrarily reduced to civilian status so that they would not be protected by the Geneva Convention, and brutal torture was used to extract confessions. When 18-year-old prisoner Arvid Freimuth hanged himself after repeated beatings rather than sign a “confession,” the prosecutors were permitted to use as “evidence” the unsigned statement which they themselves had contrived.

McCarthy dared to speak against this officially sanctioned lynching, when almost no one else had the courage to do so. By fearlessly championing the underdogs, the defeated and vilified Germans, and speaking out against the actual atrocities committed by self-righteous aliens in American uniform, the Senator demonstrated the rare moral courage that later propelled him into the forefront of the struggle against Communism.

The Senate Judiciary Committee, chaired by Senator Raymond Baldwin, Republican of Connecticut, was assigned to investigate the charges of torture, but whitewashed them instead. On July 26, 1949, Senator McCarthy withdrew in disgust from the hearings and announced in a speech on the Senate floor that two members of the Committee, Senator Baldwin and Senator Estes Kefauver, Democrat of Tennessee, had law partners among the Army interrogators they were supposedly investigating. This was in several ways a preview of things to come.

The Jews showed instant hostility toward anyone who interfered with their campaign of vengeance against the conquered Germans, and so they began turning their big guns in the media against McCarthy: a December 1949 poll of news correspondents covering the United States Senate already had reporters branding McCarthy “the worst Senator” — a high honor indeed

James Forrestal: a patriot who fought subversion, and who died under mysterious circumstances.
When McCarthy had arrived in Washington as a freshman Senator in 1946, he had been invited to lunch by Secretary of the Navy James Forrestal. McCarthy writes:

“Before meeting Jim Forrestal I thought we were losing to international Communism because of incompetence and stupidity on the part of our planners. I mentioned that to Forrestal. I shall forever remember his answer. He said, ‘McCarthy, consistency has never been a mark of stupidity. If they were merely stupid they would occasionally make a mistake in our favor.’ This phrase struck me so forcefully that I have often used it since.”

Considering the destructive policies that thrived in Washington, McCarthy concluded that to fight Communism effectively it was not enough to denounce Communism in general; anyone — even a Communist — could claim to oppose Communism. The Senator decided that it was necessary to identify those responsible for treasonous policies and then accuse them on the basis of what they actually had done, not on the basis of the ideas to which they paid lip service.

A special investigating subcommittee chaired by Senator Millard Tydings, Democrat of Maryland, was set up purportedly to investigate McCarthy’s claim that Communists and pro-Communists were being harbored in the State Department. In reality, as Tydings himself admitted, the purpose was to silence McCarthy. Tydings boasted, “Let me have McCarthy for three days in public hearings, and he will never show his face in the Senate again.” Tydings’ effort to discredit the upstart patriot would be heavily aided by the major media.

One of the reporters present at the hearings was Elmer Davis, a prominent radio commentator who had been head of the Office of War Information (OWI). McCarthy noted:

“Many of the [principals in the] cases I was about to present had once been employees in the OWI under Davis and then had moved into the State Department. As I glanced at Davis I recalled that Stanislaw Mikolajczyk, one of the anti-Communist leaders of Poland, had warned the State Department, while Davis was head of the OWI, that OWI broadcasts were ‘following the Communist line consistently,’ and that the broadcasts ‘might well have emanated from Moscow itself.’ There could be no doubt how Davis would report the story. . . .

“At one of the other tables I saw [left-wing, muckraking columnist] Drew Pearson’s men. I could not help but remember that Pearson had employed a member of the Communist Party, Andrew Older, to write Pearson’s stories on the House Committee on Un-American Activities and that another one of Pearson’s limited staff was David Karr, who had previously worked for the Communist Party’s official publication, the Daily Worker. No doubt about how Pearson would cover the story. . . .

“As I waited for the chairman to open the hearing I, of course, knew the left-wing elements of the press would twist and distort the story to protect every Communist whom I exposed, but frankly I had no conception of how far the dishonest news coverage would go.”

In the case of Owen Lattimore, the testimony of McCarthy’s chief witness, ex-Communist Louis Budenz, was widely misrepresented. Lattimore was a scholar on Far Eastern affairs employed by the State Department as a consultant; he had advised the State Department that Chinese Communist leader Mao Tse-Tung was merely “a liberal agrarian reformer” at a time when Washington was still unsure how to react to Mao’s efforts to overthrow the Chinese government. In McCarthy’s words:

“[Budenz] . . . testified that . . . [Lattimore], who had been employed by the government, consulted for years by State Department officials on Far Eastern policy, and looked to by newspapermen and magazine editors for news on Far Eastern trends, had been a member of the Communist Party.”



McCarthy’s Methods


Joseph McCarthy speaks on KFAB. According to professor Revilo Oliver, a CIA officer told McCarthy in 1950 “Senator, you said there were 57 known Communists in the State Department. If you had access to the files of my agency, you would know that there is absolute proof that there are ten times that many. But Senator, you do not realize the magnitude and the power of the conspiracy you are attacking. They will destroy you — they will destroy you utterly.”


Make no mistake about it, McCarthy did cause considerable discomfort to some people: to the alien subversives and traitors whose ultimate goal was and still is the New World Order. It was these people who, in their effort to silence McCarthy, ironically characterized him as an enemy of free speech. The First Amendment, of course, had been drafted precisely to protect men like McCarthy, who dared to identify treason in high places.

There were undoubtedly, however, some sincere, patriotic Americans who agreed with McCarthy’s aim of removing Communists from government, but who found his method, with all of its sensationalism and public-relations gimmickry, distasteful. McCarthy’s method was, as he himself explained, a last resort:

“I have followed the method of publicly exposing the truth about men who, because of incompetence or treason, were betraying this nation. Another method would be to take the evidence to the President and ask him to discharge those who were serving the Communist cause. A third method would be to give the facts to the proper Senate committee which had the power to hire investigators and subpoena witnesses and records. The second and third methods . . . were tried without success. . . . The only method left to me was to present the truth to the American people. This I did.”

People who criticized McCarthy’s public accusations merely as being in poor taste clearly did not appreciate the gravity of the situation and the necessity for taking action. Also it should be noted that McCarthy had not wanted to read his original list of 57 subversives publicly, but the Tydings Committee required it of him. According to the Congressional Record of Feb 20, 1950, p. 2049, McCarthy protested on the Senate floor:

“I think . . . it would be improper to make the names public until the appropriate Senate Committee can meet in executive session and get them. . . . It might leave a wrong impression.”

Unfortunately, “the wrong impression” was exactly what the Tydings Committee wished to promote. In other words, contrary to the reputation for “recklessness” that was applied to him, McCarthy exercised his First Amendment right with great care.



In the discrediting of McCarthy, there is no doubt that there was a conspiracy at work. We know this because men who were privy to the conspiracy later wrote books about it. The activities of the conspirators were, of course, necessarily subtle; Eisenhower himself studiously avoided even mentioning McCarthy’s name in public, and the media coverage was almost unbelievably biased. Thus, for the general public, the arrangements which brought down McCarthy were a mystery, though in essence they were very simple: McCarthy was maneuvered into an awkward position, the major media portrayed him as unfavorably as possible, and his colleagues deserted him......sound familiar? It should.

McCarthy was the one man in Washington, D.C., who bucked the bipartisan pressure to be polite to America’s enemies and to “get along by going along.” He was the one man who took anti-Communism seriously and was willing to do something about it.


The Destruction of Joe McCarthy

I don't think anyone questions the fact that there were many communist in the US as well as many people that believed in socialism. I have no problem pursuing those that commit treasonous acts against our nation. They should be treated as any criminal, apprehended, charged, tried, convicted, and punished. However, for government to destroy people lives because of their beliefs and opinions is wrong. It was just as wrong in the US as it was in Red China and Nazi Germany.

If you are a member of the communist party, you are taking orders from Stalin. You are a traitor. You sure as hell don't belong in any sensitive government positions. Getting scum that out of the government is all McCarthy was trying to do.

As I understand it, McCarthy initially wasn't after Communist spies per se; he was actually just concerned with people having security clearances who should never have been granted them under the official standards for such things at the time.

Which, of course, fell squarely under the job heading of his Senate committee, so . . .

 

[Cecilie1200]

It is time to examine the new evidence objectively and to reassess McCarthy, his activities, and Soviet espionage penetration of the U.S. government. In so doing we perform an act of justice to a wrongly maligned man, gain greater knowledge of the Cold War’s early days, and sound a warning regarding possible espionage within and against the U.S. government by current or future enemies.

To reassess McCarthy accurately requires knowledge of (1) the murderously evil nature of Communism, (2) the massive Soviet espionage penetration of the U.S. government, and (3) the specifics of numerous cases regarding McCarthy’s efforts to expose that espionage.

Regarding the first of these, readers are encouraged to read my recent essay, “The Socialist Holocaust and its American Deniers,”5 and its sources, especially The Black Book of Communism, which provides data taken, in part, from the files of numerous former Communist regimes, including the Soviets. Suffice it to say here that, worldwide, Communism has been responsible for the murder of one hundred million innocent civilians.6 More, it has done so in strict adherence to its cardinal principle: Because members of the owning class cruelly exploit members of the working class, the former must be expunged in ruthless class warfare.

Items two and three—Soviet espionage penetration of the U.S. government and details regarding McCarthy’s efforts to expose it—are the focus of this essay.

Soviet Espionage Penetration of the U.S. Government
The Soviets targeted the Communists’ main ideological enemy, the capitalist United States, even during World War II, when the two nations were supposedly allied in a death struggle against fascism. Soviet agents achieved widespread penetration of the American government, spying, stealing secrets, ultimately supplying data enabling Stalin’s blood-drenched regime to develop an atomic weapon years earlier than otherwise.

The story reads like a spy thriller. . . .The Vindication of Joseph McCarthy - The Objective Standard

McCarthy didn't do diddly shit in catching spy. He was driven by a desire to expose people with ideas and opinions that could be interpreted as Communist. The FBI did the investigations and integrations that lead to convictions. Hoover did turn over results of investigations to McCarthy in order to conduct his inquisitions. Most of the people that McCarthy called to testify never did. They met with investigators and made deals, usually confessing their sins and often naming others avoiding testifying or any criminal charges. McCarthy wanted celebrities to testify in order to get public notice so most of the little fish were never in hot seat.

What brought McCarthy down was the Army herrings. By 1954 McCarthy, who was losing the support of many because of his bullying tactics and unsubstantiated charges, finally overreached himself when he accused several U.S. Army officers of Communist subversion. President Dwight D. Eisenhower was fed up and pushed for an investigation of his charges, and the televised hearings exposed McCarthy as a reckless and excessive tyrant who never produced proper documentation for any of his claims. By mid-year, McCarthy was himself being investigated by a republican controlled Senate in a resolution of censure.
Albert Einstein Typed Letter Signed McCarthy | The Raab Collection

Bullshite.......like so many others you have absorbed the propaganda spread by the liberal media.





President Harry Truman’s Secretary of State at the time, Dean Acheson, was well known as a man sympathetic to Communism and Communists. As far back as the 1930s Acheson had worked as a lawyer on behalf of Stalin’s regime, prior to the diplomatic recognition of the Soviet Union by the United States, and recently he had ignored reports about the Communist Party connections of his protege at the State Department, Alger Hiss. Acheson also had been the chief U.S. advisor at the Yalta Conference, in February 1945, which consigned eastern Europe to Communist rule, and he presided over the drafting of the United Nations Charter. In the State Department Acheson fostered the careers of Communists and stifled the careers of anti-Communists.

Furthermore, as Ohio’s Republican Senator Robert Taft said at the time, “Pro-Communist policies of the State Department fully justify Joe McCarthy in his demand for an investigation.”

Grand Scale of Subversion


Franklin Delano Roosevelt (“FDR”)
Communist infiltration of the U.S. government had occurred on a grand scale during the reign of Franklin Roosevelt. Congressman Martin Dies, Democrat of Texas and chairman of the House Committee on Un-American Activities from its inception in 1938 until 1945, had warned Roosevelt in 1940 that there were thousands of Communists and pro-Communists on the government payroll, but FDR refused to take action, saying:

“I do not believe in Communism any more than you do, but there is nothing wrong with the Communists in this country. Several of the best friends I have are Communists. . . .

“I do not regard the Communists as any present or future threat to our country; in fact, I look upon Russia as our strongest ally in the years to come. As I told you when you began your investigation, you should confine yourself to Nazis and Fascists. While I do not believe in Communism, Russia is far better off and the world is safer under Communism than under the Czars.”

Under the circumstances, McCarthy’s charge that there were 57 known Communists in the State Department seems very modest.

A Maverick for the Truth

McCarthy had been a maverick from the beginning. In 1949 he had dared champion the cause of German prisoners of war held in connection with the alleged “Malmédy massacre.” In truth, what had happened near the Belgian town of Malmédy in December 1944 was unclear at the time, part of what U.S. General Thomas T. Handy, who in 1949 was the commander in chief of U.S. forces in Europe, called “a confused, mobile, and desperate combat action.” It is known now that a number of American soldiers who had surrendered there to the Germans were shortly thereafter killed in cross fire when their captors, who were marching them to a rear area, were engaged by other U.S. units. When their bodies were found by U.S. forces afterward with their hands tied behind their backs, however, it appeared that they might have been deliberately killed.

After the war, Germans who had taken part in the fighting at Malmédy were turned over to U.S. Army Colonel A.H. Rosenfeld and his Jewish underlings for “interrogation.” The prisoners were arbitrarily reduced to civilian status so that they would not be protected by the Geneva Convention, and brutal torture was used to extract confessions. When 18-year-old prisoner Arvid Freimuth hanged himself after repeated beatings rather than sign a “confession,” the prosecutors were permitted to use as “evidence” the unsigned statement which they themselves had contrived.

McCarthy dared to speak against this officially sanctioned lynching, when almost no one else had the courage to do so. By fearlessly championing the underdogs, the defeated and vilified Germans, and speaking out against the actual atrocities committed by self-righteous aliens in American uniform, the Senator demonstrated the rare moral courage that later propelled him into the forefront of the struggle against Communism.

The Senate Judiciary Committee, chaired by Senator Raymond Baldwin, Republican of Connecticut, was assigned to investigate the charges of torture, but whitewashed them instead. On July 26, 1949, Senator McCarthy withdrew in disgust from the hearings and announced in a speech on the Senate floor that two members of the Committee, Senator Baldwin and Senator Estes Kefauver, Democrat of Tennessee, had law partners among the Army interrogators they were supposedly investigating. This was in several ways a preview of things to come.

The Jews showed instant hostility toward anyone who interfered with their campaign of vengeance against the conquered Germans, and so they began turning their big guns in the media against McCarthy: a December 1949 poll of news correspondents covering the United States Senate already had reporters branding McCarthy “the worst Senator” — a high honor indeed

James Forrestal: a patriot who fought subversion, and who died under mysterious circumstances.
When McCarthy had arrived in Washington as a freshman Senator in 1946, he had been invited to lunch by Secretary of the Navy James Forrestal. McCarthy writes:

“Before meeting Jim Forrestal I thought we were losing to international Communism because of incompetence and stupidity on the part of our planners. I mentioned that to Forrestal. I shall forever remember his answer. He said, ‘McCarthy, consistency has never been a mark of stupidity. If they were merely stupid they would occasionally make a mistake in our favor.’ This phrase struck me so forcefully that I have often used it since.”

Considering the destructive policies that thrived in Washington, McCarthy concluded that to fight Communism effectively it was not enough to denounce Communism in general; anyone — even a Communist — could claim to oppose Communism. The Senator decided that it was necessary to identify those responsible for treasonous policies and then accuse them on the basis of what they actually had done, not on the basis of the ideas to which they paid lip service.

A special investigating subcommittee chaired by Senator Millard Tydings, Democrat of Maryland, was set up purportedly to investigate McCarthy’s claim that Communists and pro-Communists were being harbored in the State Department. In reality, as Tydings himself admitted, the purpose was to silence McCarthy. Tydings boasted, “Let me have McCarthy for three days in public hearings, and he will never show his face in the Senate again.” Tydings’ effort to discredit the upstart patriot would be heavily aided by the major media.

One of the reporters present at the hearings was Elmer Davis, a prominent radio commentator who had been head of the Office of War Information (OWI). McCarthy noted:

“Many of the [principals in the] cases I was about to present had once been employees in the OWI under Davis and then had moved into the State Department. As I glanced at Davis I recalled that Stanislaw Mikolajczyk, one of the anti-Communist leaders of Poland, had warned the State Department, while Davis was head of the OWI, that OWI broadcasts were ‘following the Communist line consistently,’ and that the broadcasts ‘might well have emanated from Moscow itself.’ There could be no doubt how Davis would report the story. . . .

“At one of the other tables I saw [left-wing, muckraking columnist] Drew Pearson’s men. I could not help but remember that Pearson had employed a member of the Communist Party, Andrew Older, to write Pearson’s stories on the House Committee on Un-American Activities and that another one of Pearson’s limited staff was David Karr, who had previously worked for the Communist Party’s official publication, the Daily Worker. No doubt about how Pearson would cover the story. . . .

“As I waited for the chairman to open the hearing I, of course, knew the left-wing elements of the press would twist and distort the story to protect every Communist whom I exposed, but frankly I had no conception of how far the dishonest news coverage would go.”

In the case of Owen Lattimore, the testimony of McCarthy’s chief witness, ex-Communist Louis Budenz, was widely misrepresented. Lattimore was a scholar on Far Eastern affairs employed by the State Department as a consultant; he had advised the State Department that Chinese Communist leader Mao Tse-Tung was merely “a liberal agrarian reformer” at a time when Washington was still unsure how to react to Mao’s efforts to overthrow the Chinese government. In McCarthy’s words:

“[Budenz] . . . testified that . . . [Lattimore], who had been employed by the government, consulted for years by State Department officials on Far Eastern policy, and looked to by newspapermen and magazine editors for news on Far Eastern trends, had been a member of the Communist Party.”



McCarthy’s Methods


Joseph McCarthy speaks on KFAB. According to professor Revilo Oliver, a CIA officer told McCarthy in 1950 “Senator, you said there were 57 known Communists in the State Department. If you had access to the files of my agency, you would know that there is absolute proof that there are ten times that many. But Senator, you do not realize the magnitude and the power of the conspiracy you are attacking. They will destroy you — they will destroy you utterly.”


Make no mistake about it, McCarthy did cause considerable discomfort to some people: to the alien subversives and traitors whose ultimate goal was and still is the New World Order. It was these people who, in their effort to silence McCarthy, ironically characterized him as an enemy of free speech. The First Amendment, of course, had been drafted precisely to protect men like McCarthy, who dared to identify treason in high places.

There were undoubtedly, however, some sincere, patriotic Americans who agreed with McCarthy’s aim of removing Communists from government, but who found his method, with all of its sensationalism and public-relations gimmickry, distasteful. McCarthy’s method was, as he himself explained, a last resort:

“I have followed the method of publicly exposing the truth about men who, because of incompetence or treason, were betraying this nation. Another method would be to take the evidence to the President and ask him to discharge those who were serving the Communist cause. A third method would be to give the facts to the proper Senate committee which had the power to hire investigators and subpoena witnesses and records. The second and third methods . . . were tried without success. . . . The only method left to me was to present the truth to the American people. This I did.”

People who criticized McCarthy’s public accusations merely as being in poor taste clearly did not appreciate the gravity of the situation and the necessity for taking action. Also it should be noted that McCarthy had not wanted to read his original list of 57 subversives publicly, but the Tydings Committee required it of him. According to the Congressional Record of Feb 20, 1950, p. 2049, McCarthy protested on the Senate floor:

“I think . . . it would be improper to make the names public until the appropriate Senate Committee can meet in executive session and get them. . . . It might leave a wrong impression.”

Unfortunately, “the wrong impression” was exactly what the Tydings Committee wished to promote. In other words, contrary to the reputation for “recklessness” that was applied to him, McCarthy exercised his First Amendment right with great care.



In the discrediting of McCarthy, there is no doubt that there was a conspiracy at work. We know this because men who were privy to the conspiracy later wrote books about it. The activities of the conspirators were, of course, necessarily subtle; Eisenhower himself studiously avoided even mentioning McCarthy’s name in public, and the media coverage was almost unbelievably biased. Thus, for the general public, the arrangements which brought down McCarthy were a mystery, though in essence they were very simple: McCarthy was maneuvered into an awkward position, the major media portrayed him as unfavorably as possible, and his colleagues deserted him......sound familiar? It should.

McCarthy was the one man in Washington, D.C., who bucked the bipartisan pressure to be polite to America’s enemies and to “get along by going along.” He was the one man who took anti-Communism seriously and was willing to do something about it.


The Destruction of Joe McCarthy

I don't think anyone questions the fact that there were many communist in the US as well as many people that believed in socialism. I have no problem pursuing those that commit treasonous acts against our nation. They should be treated as any criminal, apprehended, charged, tried, convicted, and punished. However, for government to destroy people lives because of their beliefs and opinions is wrong. It was just as wrong in the US as it was in Red China and Nazi Germany.

Name me on person whose life was unjustifiably destroyed by Joe McCarthy.

They never can because all the people he called before his committee were guilty.

And most of them appear to have gone on to be adored and lauded by the left, so "destroyed" is a bit inaccurate.

 

[Cecilie1200]

It is time to examine the new evidence objectively and to reassess McCarthy, his activities, and Soviet espionage penetration of the U.S. government. In so doing we perform an act of justice to a wrongly maligned man, gain greater knowledge of the Cold War’s early days, and sound a warning regarding possible espionage within and against the U.S. government by current or future enemies.

To reassess McCarthy accurately requires knowledge of (1) the murderously evil nature of Communism, (2) the massive Soviet espionage penetration of the U.S. government, and (3) the specifics of numerous cases regarding McCarthy’s efforts to expose that espionage.

Regarding the first of these, readers are encouraged to read my recent essay, “The Socialist Holocaust and its American Deniers,”5 and its sources, especially The Black Book of Communism, which provides data taken, in part, from the files of numerous former Communist regimes, including the Soviets. Suffice it to say here that, worldwide, Communism has been responsible for the murder of one hundred million innocent civilians.6 More, it has done so in strict adherence to its cardinal principle: Because members of the owning class cruelly exploit members of the working class, the former must be expunged in ruthless class warfare.

Items two and three—Soviet espionage penetration of the U.S. government and details regarding McCarthy’s efforts to expose it—are the focus of this essay.

Soviet Espionage Penetration of the U.S. Government
The Soviets targeted the Communists’ main ideological enemy, the capitalist United States, even during World War II, when the two nations were supposedly allied in a death struggle against fascism. Soviet agents achieved widespread penetration of the American government, spying, stealing secrets, ultimately supplying data enabling Stalin’s blood-drenched regime to develop an atomic weapon years earlier than otherwise.

The story reads like a spy thriller. . . .The Vindication of Joseph McCarthy - The Objective Standard

McCarthy didn't do diddly shit in catching spy. He was driven by a desire to expose people with ideas and opinions that could be interpreted as Communist. The FBI did the investigations and integrations that lead to convictions. Hoover did turn over results of investigations to McCarthy in order to conduct his inquisitions. Most of the people that McCarthy called to testify never did. They met with investigators and made deals, usually confessing their sins and often naming others avoiding testifying or any criminal charges. McCarthy wanted celebrities to testify in order to get public notice so most of the little fish were never in hot seat.

What brought McCarthy down was the Army herrings. By 1954 McCarthy, who was losing the support of many because of his bullying tactics and unsubstantiated charges, finally overreached himself when he accused several U.S. Army officers of Communist subversion. President Dwight D. Eisenhower was fed up and pushed for an investigation of his charges, and the televised hearings exposed McCarthy as a reckless and excessive tyrant who never produced proper documentation for any of his claims. By mid-year, McCarthy was himself being investigated by a republican controlled Senate in a resolution of censure.
Albert Einstein Typed Letter Signed McCarthy | The Raab Collection

Bullshite.......like so many others you have absorbed the propaganda spread by the liberal media.





President Harry Truman’s Secretary of State at the time, Dean Acheson, was well known as a man sympathetic to Communism and Communists. As far back as the 1930s Acheson had worked as a lawyer on behalf of Stalin’s regime, prior to the diplomatic recognition of the Soviet Union by the United States, and recently he had ignored reports about the Communist Party connections of his protege at the State Department, Alger Hiss. Acheson also had been the chief U.S. advisor at the Yalta Conference, in February 1945, which consigned eastern Europe to Communist rule, and he presided over the drafting of the United Nations Charter. In the State Department Acheson fostered the careers of Communists and stifled the careers of anti-Communists.

Furthermore, as Ohio’s Republican Senator Robert Taft said at the time, “Pro-Communist policies of the State Department fully justify Joe McCarthy in his demand for an investigation.”

Grand Scale of Subversion


Franklin Delano Roosevelt (“FDR”)
Communist infiltration of the U.S. government had occurred on a grand scale during the reign of Franklin Roosevelt. Congressman Martin Dies, Democrat of Texas and chairman of the House Committee on Un-American Activities from its inception in 1938 until 1945, had warned Roosevelt in 1940 that there were thousands of Communists and pro-Communists on the government payroll, but FDR refused to take action, saying:

“I do not believe in Communism any more than you do, but there is nothing wrong with the Communists in this country. Several of the best friends I have are Communists. . . .

“I do not regard the Communists as any present or future threat to our country; in fact, I look upon Russia as our strongest ally in the years to come. As I told you when you began your investigation, you should confine yourself to Nazis and Fascists. While I do not believe in Communism, Russia is far better off and the world is safer under Communism than under the Czars.”

Under the circumstances, McCarthy’s charge that there were 57 known Communists in the State Department seems very modest.

A Maverick for the Truth

McCarthy had been a maverick from the beginning. In 1949 he had dared champion the cause of German prisoners of war held in connection with the alleged “Malmédy massacre.” In truth, what had happened near the Belgian town of Malmédy in December 1944 was unclear at the time, part of what U.S. General Thomas T. Handy, who in 1949 was the commander in chief of U.S. forces in Europe, called “a confused, mobile, and desperate combat action.” It is known now that a number of American soldiers who had surrendered there to the Germans were shortly thereafter killed in cross fire when their captors, who were marching them to a rear area, were engaged by other U.S. units. When their bodies were found by U.S. forces afterward with their hands tied behind their backs, however, it appeared that they might have been deliberately killed.

After the war, Germans who had taken part in the fighting at Malmédy were turned over to U.S. Army Colonel A.H. Rosenfeld and his Jewish underlings for “interrogation.” The prisoners were arbitrarily reduced to civilian status so that they would not be protected by the Geneva Convention, and brutal torture was used to extract confessions. When 18-year-old prisoner Arvid Freimuth hanged himself after repeated beatings rather than sign a “confession,” the prosecutors were permitted to use as “evidence” the unsigned statement which they themselves had contrived.

McCarthy dared to speak against this officially sanctioned lynching, when almost no one else had the courage to do so. By fearlessly championing the underdogs, the defeated and vilified Germans, and speaking out against the actual atrocities committed by self-righteous aliens in American uniform, the Senator demonstrated the rare moral courage that later propelled him into the forefront of the struggle against Communism.

The Senate Judiciary Committee, chaired by Senator Raymond Baldwin, Republican of Connecticut, was assigned to investigate the charges of torture, but whitewashed them instead. On July 26, 1949, Senator McCarthy withdrew in disgust from the hearings and announced in a speech on the Senate floor that two members of the Committee, Senator Baldwin and Senator Estes Kefauver, Democrat of Tennessee, had law partners among the Army interrogators they were supposedly investigating. This was in several ways a preview of things to come.

The Jews showed instant hostility toward anyone who interfered with their campaign of vengeance against the conquered Germans, and so they began turning their big guns in the media against McCarthy: a December 1949 poll of news correspondents covering the United States Senate already had reporters branding McCarthy “the worst Senator” — a high honor indeed

James Forrestal: a patriot who fought subversion, and who died under mysterious circumstances.
When McCarthy had arrived in Washington as a freshman Senator in 1946, he had been invited to lunch by Secretary of the Navy James Forrestal. McCarthy writes:

“Before meeting Jim Forrestal I thought we were losing to international Communism because of incompetence and stupidity on the part of our planners. I mentioned that to Forrestal. I shall forever remember his answer. He said, ‘McCarthy, consistency has never been a mark of stupidity. If they were merely stupid they would occasionally make a mistake in our favor.’ This phrase struck me so forcefully that I have often used it since.”

Considering the destructive policies that thrived in Washington, McCarthy concluded that to fight Communism effectively it was not enough to denounce Communism in general; anyone — even a Communist — could claim to oppose Communism. The Senator decided that it was necessary to identify those responsible for treasonous policies and then accuse them on the basis of what they actually had done, not on the basis of the ideas to which they paid lip service.

A special investigating subcommittee chaired by Senator Millard Tydings, Democrat of Maryland, was set up purportedly to investigate McCarthy’s claim that Communists and pro-Communists were being harbored in the State Department. In reality, as Tydings himself admitted, the purpose was to silence McCarthy. Tydings boasted, “Let me have McCarthy for three days in public hearings, and he will never show his face in the Senate again.” Tydings’ effort to discredit the upstart patriot would be heavily aided by the major media.

One of the reporters present at the hearings was Elmer Davis, a prominent radio commentator who had been head of the Office of War Information (OWI). McCarthy noted:

“Many of the [principals in the] cases I was about to present had once been employees in the OWI under Davis and then had moved into the State Department. As I glanced at Davis I recalled that Stanislaw Mikolajczyk, one of the anti-Communist leaders of Poland, had warned the State Department, while Davis was head of the OWI, that OWI broadcasts were ‘following the Communist line consistently,’ and that the broadcasts ‘might well have emanated from Moscow itself.’ There could be no doubt how Davis would report the story. . . .

“At one of the other tables I saw [left-wing, muckraking columnist] Drew Pearson’s men. I could not help but remember that Pearson had employed a member of the Communist Party, Andrew Older, to write Pearson’s stories on the House Committee on Un-American Activities and that another one of Pearson’s limited staff was David Karr, who had previously worked for the Communist Party’s official publication, the Daily Worker. No doubt about how Pearson would cover the story. . . .

“As I waited for the chairman to open the hearing I, of course, knew the left-wing elements of the press would twist and distort the story to protect every Communist whom I exposed, but frankly I had no conception of how far the dishonest news coverage would go.”

In the case of Owen Lattimore, the testimony of McCarthy’s chief witness, ex-Communist Louis Budenz, was widely misrepresented. Lattimore was a scholar on Far Eastern affairs employed by the State Department as a consultant; he had advised the State Department that Chinese Communist leader Mao Tse-Tung was merely “a liberal agrarian reformer” at a time when Washington was still unsure how to react to Mao’s efforts to overthrow the Chinese government. In McCarthy’s words:

“[Budenz] . . . testified that . . . [Lattimore], who had been employed by the government, consulted for years by State Department officials on Far Eastern policy, and looked to by newspapermen and magazine editors for news on Far Eastern trends, had been a member of the Communist Party.”



McCarthy’s Methods


Joseph McCarthy speaks on KFAB. According to professor Revilo Oliver, a CIA officer told McCarthy in 1950 “Senator, you said there were 57 known Communists in the State Department. If you had access to the files of my agency, you would know that there is absolute proof that there are ten times that many. But Senator, you do not realize the magnitude and the power of the conspiracy you are attacking. They will destroy you — they will destroy you utterly.”


Make no mistake about it, McCarthy did cause considerable discomfort to some people: to the alien subversives and traitors whose ultimate goal was and still is the New World Order. It was these people who, in their effort to silence McCarthy, ironically characterized him as an enemy of free speech. The First Amendment, of course, had been drafted precisely to protect men like McCarthy, who dared to identify treason in high places.

There were undoubtedly, however, some sincere, patriotic Americans who agreed with McCarthy’s aim of removing Communists from government, but who found his method, with all of its sensationalism and public-relations gimmickry, distasteful. McCarthy’s method was, as he himself explained, a last resort:

“I have followed the method of publicly exposing the truth about men who, because of incompetence or treason, were betraying this nation. Another method would be to take the evidence to the President and ask him to discharge those who were serving the Communist cause. A third method would be to give the facts to the proper Senate committee which had the power to hire investigators and subpoena witnesses and records. The second and third methods . . . were tried without success. . . . The only method left to me was to present the truth to the American people. This I did.”

People who criticized McCarthy’s public accusations merely as being in poor taste clearly did not appreciate the gravity of the situation and the necessity for taking action. Also it should be noted that McCarthy had not wanted to read his original list of 57 subversives publicly, but the Tydings Committee required it of him. According to the Congressional Record of Feb 20, 1950, p. 2049, McCarthy protested on the Senate floor:

“I think . . . it would be improper to make the names public until the appropriate Senate Committee can meet in executive session and get them. . . . It might leave a wrong impression.”

Unfortunately, “the wrong impression” was exactly what the Tydings Committee wished to promote. In other words, contrary to the reputation for “recklessness” that was applied to him, McCarthy exercised his First Amendment right with great care.



In the discrediting of McCarthy, there is no doubt that there was a conspiracy at work. We know this because men who were privy to the conspiracy later wrote books about it. The activities of the conspirators were, of course, necessarily subtle; Eisenhower himself studiously avoided even mentioning McCarthy’s name in public, and the media coverage was almost unbelievably biased. Thus, for the general public, the arrangements which brought down McCarthy were a mystery, though in essence they were very simple: McCarthy was maneuvered into an awkward position, the major media portrayed him as unfavorably as possible, and his colleagues deserted him......sound familiar? It should.

McCarthy was the one man in Washington, D.C., who bucked the bipartisan pressure to be polite to America’s enemies and to “get along by going along.” He was the one man who took anti-Communism seriously and was willing to do something about it.


The Destruction of Joe McCarthy

I don't think anyone questions the fact that there were many communist in the US as well as many people that believed in socialism. I have no problem pursuing those that commit treasonous acts against our nation. They should be treated as any criminal, apprehended, charged, tried, convicted, and punished. However, for government to destroy people lives because of their beliefs and opinions is wrong. It was just as wrong in the US as it was in Red China and Nazi Germany.

Name me on person whose life was unjustifiably destroyed by Joe McCarthy.

Most people would answer that question with the Hollywood Blacklist, but that is just a drop in the bucket. Many, people were fired from their jobs because of alleged associations with communists, or stating an opinion that indicated sympathy for communists.

I was a teenager when the McCarthy hearings and the red scare was going on in the 50's. My high school civics teacher, Mr. Jackson spoke out in class about the McCarthy hearings. Within a few days, the school board suspended him. A local newspaper editorial accused him of being a communist and called for the school board to clean our schools of communist sympathizers. The fact is Mr Jackson was no communist. He just believe what McCarthy was doing was wrong and spoke out against it. Many people in education were censored or fired. My mother was teaching at the time and her school principal warned the faculty to be careful what you say in class because you could be reported. For many people, it was Nazi Germany in America.
How the Red Scare destroyed a small-town teacher - The Boston Globe

Most people would answer that question with the Hollywood Blacklist, because most people are pig-stupid enough not to be able to tell the House from the Senate, and thus babble inanely. Are you identifying yourself with those abysmal imbeciles?

Whoops, never mind. You go on to present the "evidence" of an anecdote from someone else's opinion piece, so question answered.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Bullshite.......like so many others you have absorbed the propaganda spread by the liberal media.





President Harry Truman’s Secretary of State at the time, Dean Acheson, was well known as a man sympathetic to Communism and Communists. As far back as the 1930s Acheson had worked as a lawyer on behalf of Stalin’s regime, prior to the diplomatic recognition of the Soviet Union by the United States, and recently he had ignored reports about the Communist Party connections of his protege at the State Department, Alger Hiss. Acheson also had been the chief U.S. advisor at the Yalta Conference, in February 1945, which consigned eastern Europe to Communist rule, and he presided over the drafting of the United Nations Charter. In the State Department Acheson fostered the careers of Communists and stifled the careers of anti-Communists.

Furthermore, as Ohio’s Republican Senator Robert Taft said at the time, “Pro-Communist policies of the State Department fully justify Joe McCarthy in his demand for an investigation.”

Grand Scale of Subversion


Franklin Delano Roosevelt (“FDR”)
Communist infiltration of the U.S. government had occurred on a grand scale during the reign of Franklin Roosevelt. Congressman Martin Dies, Democrat of Texas and chairman of the House Committee on Un-American Activities from its inception in 1938 until 1945, had warned Roosevelt in 1940 that there were thousands of Communists and pro-Communists on the government payroll, but FDR refused to take action, saying:

“I do not believe in Communism any more than you do, but there is nothing wrong with the Communists in this country. Several of the best friends I have are Communists. . . .

“I do not regard the Communists as any present or future threat to our country; in fact, I look upon Russia as our strongest ally in the years to come. As I told you when you began your investigation, you should confine yourself to Nazis and Fascists. While I do not believe in Communism, Russia is far better off and the world is safer under Communism than under the Czars.”

Under the circumstances, McCarthy’s charge that there were 57 known Communists in the State Department seems very modest.

A Maverick for the Truth

McCarthy had been a maverick from the beginning. In 1949 he had dared champion the cause of German prisoners of war held in connection with the alleged “Malmédy massacre.” In truth, what had happened near the Belgian town of Malmédy in December 1944 was unclear at the time, part of what U.S. General Thomas T. Handy, who in 1949 was the commander in chief of U.S. forces in Europe, called “a confused, mobile, and desperate combat action.” It is known now that a number of American soldiers who had surrendered there to the Germans were shortly thereafter killed in cross fire when their captors, who were marching them to a rear area, were engaged by other U.S. units. When their bodies were found by U.S. forces afterward with their hands tied behind their backs, however, it appeared that they might have been deliberately killed.

After the war, Germans who had taken part in the fighting at Malmédy were turned over to U.S. Army Colonel A.H. Rosenfeld and his Jewish underlings for “interrogation.” The prisoners were arbitrarily reduced to civilian status so that they would not be protected by the Geneva Convention, and brutal torture was used to extract confessions. When 18-year-old prisoner Arvid Freimuth hanged himself after repeated beatings rather than sign a “confession,” the prosecutors were permitted to use as “evidence” the unsigned statement which they themselves had contrived.

McCarthy dared to speak against this officially sanctioned lynching, when almost no one else had the courage to do so. By fearlessly championing the underdogs, the defeated and vilified Germans, and speaking out against the actual atrocities committed by self-righteous aliens in American uniform, the Senator demonstrated the rare moral courage that later propelled him into the forefront of the struggle against Communism.

The Senate Judiciary Committee, chaired by Senator Raymond Baldwin, Republican of Connecticut, was assigned to investigate the charges of torture, but whitewashed them instead. On July 26, 1949, Senator McCarthy withdrew in disgust from the hearings and announced in a speech on the Senate floor that two members of the Committee, Senator Baldwin and Senator Estes Kefauver, Democrat of Tennessee, had law partners among the Army interrogators they were supposedly investigating. This was in several ways a preview of things to come.

The Jews showed instant hostility toward anyone who interfered with their campaign of vengeance against the conquered Germans, and so they began turning their big guns in the media against McCarthy: a December 1949 poll of news correspondents covering the United States Senate already had reporters branding McCarthy “the worst Senator” — a high honor indeed

James Forrestal: a patriot who fought subversion, and who died under mysterious circumstances.
When McCarthy had arrived in Washington as a freshman Senator in 1946, he had been invited to lunch by Secretary of the Navy James Forrestal. McCarthy writes:

“Before meeting Jim Forrestal I thought we were losing to international Communism because of incompetence and stupidity on the part of our planners. I mentioned that to Forrestal. I shall forever remember his answer. He said, ‘McCarthy, consistency has never been a mark of stupidity. If they were merely stupid they would occasionally make a mistake in our favor.’ This phrase struck me so forcefully that I have often used it since.”

Considering the destructive policies that thrived in Washington, McCarthy concluded that to fight Communism effectively it was not enough to denounce Communism in general; anyone — even a Communist — could claim to oppose Communism. The Senator decided that it was necessary to identify those responsible for treasonous policies and then accuse them on the basis of what they actually had done, not on the basis of the ideas to which they paid lip service.

A special investigating subcommittee chaired by Senator Millard Tydings, Democrat of Maryland, was set up purportedly to investigate McCarthy’s claim that Communists and pro-Communists were being harbored in the State Department. In reality, as Tydings himself admitted, the purpose was to silence McCarthy. Tydings boasted, “Let me have McCarthy for three days in public hearings, and he will never show his face in the Senate again.” Tydings’ effort to discredit the upstart patriot would be heavily aided by the major media.

One of the reporters present at the hearings was Elmer Davis, a prominent radio commentator who had been head of the Office of War Information (OWI). McCarthy noted:

“Many of the [principals in the] cases I was about to present had once been employees in the OWI under Davis and then had moved into the State Department. As I glanced at Davis I recalled that Stanislaw Mikolajczyk, one of the anti-Communist leaders of Poland, had warned the State Department, while Davis was head of the OWI, that OWI broadcasts were ‘following the Communist line consistently,’ and that the broadcasts ‘might well have emanated from Moscow itself.’ There could be no doubt how Davis would report the story. . . .

“At one of the other tables I saw [left-wing, muckraking columnist] Drew Pearson’s men. I could not help but remember that Pearson had employed a member of the Communist Party, Andrew Older, to write Pearson’s stories on the House Committee on Un-American Activities and that another one of Pearson’s limited staff was David Karr, who had previously worked for the Communist Party’s official publication, the Daily Worker. No doubt about how Pearson would cover the story. . . .

“As I waited for the chairman to open the hearing I, of course, knew the left-wing elements of the press would twist and distort the story to protect every Communist whom I exposed, but frankly I had no conception of how far the dishonest news coverage would go.”

In the case of Owen Lattimore, the testimony of McCarthy’s chief witness, ex-Communist Louis Budenz, was widely misrepresented. Lattimore was a scholar on Far Eastern affairs employed by the State Department as a consultant; he had advised the State Department that Chinese Communist leader Mao Tse-Tung was merely “a liberal agrarian reformer” at a time when Washington was still unsure how to react to Mao’s efforts to overthrow the Chinese government. In McCarthy’s words:

“[Budenz] . . . testified that . . . [Lattimore], who had been employed by the government, consulted for years by State Department officials on Far Eastern policy, and looked to by newspapermen and magazine editors for news on Far Eastern trends, had been a member of the Communist Party.”



McCarthy’s Methods


Joseph McCarthy speaks on KFAB. According to professor Revilo Oliver, a CIA officer told McCarthy in 1950 “Senator, you said there were 57 known Communists in the State Department. If you had access to the files of my agency, you would know that there is absolute proof that there are ten times that many. But Senator, you do not realize the magnitude and the power of the conspiracy you are attacking. They will destroy you — they will destroy you utterly.”


Make no mistake about it, McCarthy did cause considerable discomfort to some people: to the alien subversives and traitors whose ultimate goal was and still is the New World Order. It was these people who, in their effort to silence McCarthy, ironically characterized him as an enemy of free speech. The First Amendment, of course, had been drafted precisely to protect men like McCarthy, who dared to identify treason in high places.

There were undoubtedly, however, some sincere, patriotic Americans who agreed with McCarthy’s aim of removing Communists from government, but who found his method, with all of its sensationalism and public-relations gimmickry, distasteful. McCarthy’s method was, as he himself explained, a last resort:

“I have followed the method of publicly exposing the truth about men who, because of incompetence or treason, were betraying this nation. Another method would be to take the evidence to the President and ask him to discharge those who were serving the Communist cause. A third method would be to give the facts to the proper Senate committee which had the power to hire investigators and subpoena witnesses and records. The second and third methods . . . were tried without success. . . . The only method left to me was to present the truth to the American people. This I did.”

People who criticized McCarthy’s public accusations merely as being in poor taste clearly did not appreciate the gravity of the situation and the necessity for taking action. Also it should be noted that McCarthy had not wanted to read his original list of 57 subversives publicly, but the Tydings Committee required it of him. According to the Congressional Record of Feb 20, 1950, p. 2049, McCarthy protested on the Senate floor:

“I think . . . it would be improper to make the names public until the appropriate Senate Committee can meet in executive session and get them. . . . It might leave a wrong impression.”

Unfortunately, “the wrong impression” was exactly what the Tydings Committee wished to promote. In other words, contrary to the reputation for “recklessness” that was applied to him, McCarthy exercised his First Amendment right with great care.



In the discrediting of McCarthy, there is no doubt that there was a conspiracy at work. We know this because men who were privy to the conspiracy later wrote books about it. The activities of the conspirators were, of course, necessarily subtle; Eisenhower himself studiously avoided even mentioning McCarthy’s name in public, and the media coverage was almost unbelievably biased. Thus, for the general public, the arrangements which brought down McCarthy were a mystery, though in essence they were very simple: McCarthy was maneuvered into an awkward position, the major media portrayed him as unfavorably as possible, and his colleagues deserted him......sound familiar? It should.

McCarthy was the one man in Washington, D.C., who bucked the bipartisan pressure to be polite to America’s enemies and to “get along by going along.” He was the one man who took anti-Communism seriously and was willing to do something about it.


The Destruction of Joe McCarthy

I don't think anyone questions the fact that there were many communist in the US as well as many people that believed in socialism. I have no problem pursuing those that commit treasonous acts against our nation. They should be treated as any criminal, apprehended, charged, tried, convicted, and punished. However, for government to destroy people lives because of their beliefs and opinions is wrong. It was just as wrong in the US as it was in Red China and Nazi Germany.

Name me on person whose life was unjustifiably destroyed by Joe McCarthy.

Most people would answer that question with the Hollywood Blacklist, but that is just a drop in the bucket. Many, people were fired from their jobs because of alleged associations with communists, or stating an opinion that indicated sympathy for communists.

I was a teenager when the McCarthy hearings and the red scare was going on in the 50's. My high school civics teacher, Mr. Jackson spoke out in class about the McCarthy hearings. Within a few days, the school board suspended him. A local newspaper editorial accused him of being a communist and called for the school board to clean our schools of communist sympathizers. The fact is Mr Jackson was no communist. He just believe what McCarthy was doing was wrong and spoke out against it. Many people in education were censored or fired. My mother was teaching at the time and her school principal warned the faculty to be careful what you say in class because you could be reported. For many people, it was Nazi Germany in America.
How the Red Scare destroyed a small-town teacher - The Boston Globe

I axed for one name of any person whose life was destroyed by Joe McCarthy....instead you come up first with the hollywood blacklist....that was hollywood not Joe McCarthy that did that boyo. I and many others think that was justified...look at all the treason that is going on in hollywood now. If the crackdown on hollywood at that time had been harsher...hollywood might not be in the mess it is today.

Then you cite your high school civics teacher...and the fact the school board suspended him. For how long? Was his life destroyed by that?...and again...it was not Joe McCarthy that did that...it was the school board.

Then you say many people in education were censored or fired....did Joe McCarthy do that? Of course not....you have no stats and no names.

Then you ridiculously want to compare that with Nazi Germany??? I think you should talk to some folks who lived in Nazi Germany. You are merely going along with the liberal b.s. and the demonizing of Joe McCarthy.

You talk about the 'Red Scare'---what that really was---people across America understood that communist and communism was a matter of National Security....and the execution of the Rosenbergs was just one significant and justifiable episode of dealing with the communist threat.

What it all comes down to is that the media managed to demonize Joe and divert America's attention away from the threat posed by Communism and particuarly Stalinist Russia at that time.

If the left had not managed to intervene in the exposure of communists and convinced the public we had nothing to fear from communists....it is very likely the Korean War would not have happened...Stalin was the one who enabled that war and he did so knowing full well that the American People would not hold him or Russia accountable...in other words the media's success in convincing the public that we had nothing to fear played a big role in Stalin's decision to let their proxy N. Korea start a war.

The result of which thousands of American Soldiers died and even worse than that....the concept of 'limited war' was introduced by Truman which resulted in the stalemate in Korea and created the mess there that lingers to this day....a huge,huge problem and threat to America as we speak....a rogue nation in possession of Nuclear Weapons and the means to deliver them to America.

Bottom Line: America was right(at least the people)in perceiving the national threat of communism and particuarly the reality of the danger that Stalin represented.

Had not the media been able to destroy Joe McCarthy and mute his mission and more particuarly if the Republican Party had not been cowed by the media and instead had supported Joe's efforts to identify and remove from office all of scores of communists who had infiltrated into our political system...America would be much safer today.

Are there any conservatives who do NOT want to destroy the lives (or kill) of people simply because they are NOT right wing fascists?

Are there any people in your family with functioning brain stems? Maybe you could go get one and let him/her talk?

 

[Cecilie1200]

In other woids they have no military assets in Venezuela. thank-you

1. they are there and they shouldn't be

2. trump is an asset because he SPITS ON THE MONROE DOCTRINE and lets putin into Venezuela

3. history tells us that now that the russians are IN Venezuela it will take a REAL American President to throw them out.

I axed for one name of any person whose life was destroyed by Joe McCarthy....instead you come up first with the hollywood blacklist....that was hollywood not Joe McCarthy that did that boyo. I and many others think that was justified...look at all the treason that is going on in hollywood now. If the crackdown on hollywood at that time had been harsher...hollywood might not be in the mess it is today.

Then you cite your high school civics teacher...and the fact the school board suspended him. For how long? Was his life destroyed by that?...and again...it was not Joe McCarthy that did that...it was the school board.

Then you say many people in education were censored or fired....did Joe McCarthy do that? Of course not....you have no stats and no names.

Then you ridiculously want to compare that with Nazi Germany??? I think you should talk to some folks who lived in Nazi Germany. You are merely going along with the liberal b.s. and the demonizing of Joe McCarthy.

You talk about the 'Red Scare'---what that really was---people across America understood that communist and communism was a matter of National Security....and the execution of the Rosenbergs was just one significant and justifiable episode of dealing with the communist threat.

What it all comes down to is that the media managed to demonize Joe and divert America's attention away from the threat posed by Communism and particuarly Stalinist Russia at that time.

If the left had not managed to intervene in the exposure of communists and convinced the public we had nothing to fear from communists....it is very likely the Korean War would not have happened...Stalin was the one who enabled that war and he did so knowing full well that the American People would not hold him or Russia accountable...in other words the media's success in convincing the public that we had nothing to fear played a big role in Stalin's decision to let their proxy N. Korea start a war.

The result of which thousands of American Soldiers died and even worse than that....the concept of 'limited war' was introduced by Truman which resulted in the stalemate in Korea and created the mess there that lingers to this day....a huge,huge problem and threat to America as we speak....a rogue nation in possession of Nuclear Weapons and the means to deliver them to America.

Bottom Line: America was right(at least the people)in perceiving the national threat of communism and particuarly the reality of the danger that Stalin represented.

Had not the media been able to destroy Joe McCarthy and mute his mission and more particuarly if the Republican Party had not been cowed by the media and instead had supported Joe's efforts to identify and remove from office all of scores of communists who had infiltrated into our political system...America would be much safer today.

McCarthy became the spearhead of the movement backed up by Hoover. Government loyalty boards investigated millions of federal employees, asking what books and magazines they read, what unions and civic organizations they belonged to, and whether they went to church. Hundreds of screenwriters, actors, and directors were blacklisted because of their alleged political beliefs, while teachers, steelworkers, sailors, lawyers, and social workers lost their jobs for similar reasons. More than thirty-nine states required teachers and other public employees to take loyalty oaths. Meanwhile, some libraries pulled books that were considered too leftist from their shelves. The banned volumes included such classics as Robin Hood, Henry David Thoreau’s Civil Disobedience, and John Steinbeck’s The Grapes of Wrath. Labor union strikes, civil rights demonstrations, anti-government articles and books, and even the introduction of the Bikini became part of of some communist plot.

Organizations such as the John Birch Society, Anti Zionist League, White Citizens Council, and dozens of anti-labor groups formed an informal network in which the McCarthy people and FBI passed lists of names of people, businesses, and organization that allegedly had ties to the communist party. Those who refused to cooperate ended up on list. So most people did cooperate, sometime naming names, agreeing to dismiss certain employees, or just have a talk with influential people in the community.

You seem to think all that was a bad thing.....the real unfortunate thing about all that is the fact the movement to root out the reds was undermined and sabotaged by the media.

We would be much better off today had McCarthy and those who supported him been able to root out the reds.

It's only bad if you belief the accused have right to defend themselves, that people have the right to free speech, and state their support for any ideology regardless of how unpopular it might be without being attacked and ridiculed by your government.

What you and your ilk seem unable to grasp is the concept of National Security.

Let me try and explain it in a manner you might be able to understand......every person in America has a right to self defense aka if someone is trying to harm or kill you...by law you have the right to defend your life and limb.

Likewise....any Nation including America has a right to defend it's people ......during WWII would you have advocated that those with the nazi philosophy be protected and even allowed to work in our government? Do you think they(nazis and nazi sympathizers) should have been allowed to join up with our military forces?

Do you think the Rosenbergs should have been granted immunity instead of being executed?

I think what you can't grasp is that every American has rights guaranteed by the constitution which include the right to freedom of speech without censorship by government nor reprisal for exercising that right. Even more basic is the human right to believe in whatever ideology you chose. Only when your beliefs and opinions turn into actions that violate our laws should government intervene. We commonly refer to this our personal freedoms.

I think what YOU can't grasp is that a job is not a "right". Newsflash, puddin': people get suspended and fired from jobs right now, today, for saying things their employers find objectionable, particularly when they do so on the job.

 

[Flopper]

and to add to your mis?ery.............say I am very educated in Nuclear Technolgy and have been trained in how to build a dirty bomb....do you have any idea what a dirty bomb could do in a city like N.Y.
Even obama said his biggest worfry was the detonation of some kind of nuclear device in NYC.


Yes, Obama Really Is Worried About a Manhattan Nuke

I have no suggestion as how to keep this person out of country. What do you propose?

We have a huge, huge problem regarding how to keep out those who would do harm to America....and we have a equally big problem regarding how to deal with those already here that are of a suspicious nature and those that are actually very dangerous as it is known Iran has sleeper cells here already....probably a huge factor in Trumps exercising a lot of caution with Iran....though liberals are now on his case about all those soldiers that suffered concussions from the Iranian attack.....seemingly wanting to go to war over that.....forgetting how they voiced extreme fears before Trump was elected that he would lead us into war.

Your honesty regarding this very serious matter is appreciated. I think Trumps critics should try and put themselves in his shoes.....he has a multidude of extremely serious problems to deal with as well as the democratic party attempting to sabotage and impeach him.

Truly disgraceful how so many dis-respect our President.

How many could deal with all that and still be able to carry on? .Trump deserves much credit....very tough and lots of stamina.

I suspect we will have to deal with terrorism from abroad much the same way we deal with domestic terrorism which is lots of police work and a lot of time and effort. Although terrorism will always remain a threat, it is far from being a major problem in the US. In 2018, 32,000 in the world died in terrorist attacks and 11 in the US.

Unfortunately time is on their side and with their increasing knowledge and use of technology we remain vulnerable and the more so as time goes on. For the first time in our history a small group of people can conceivably with the use of wmd's destroy this nation. I am not going to go into details of how it could be done but just remember what the collapsing of a couple of skyscrapers did to America.

Bush wasted the moral superiority he had at the time of the WTC attacks...if bush had been more of a leader with some vision he would have been able to establish a coalition that would have dealt a crushing blow to islamic terrorism....instead he went after a cheap victory by attacking Iraq...though it turned out not to be so cheap...bush talked the talk aka........if you are not with us--you are against us.

But he refused to walk the walk.

Also we need to remember that for a very long period of time we relied on the doctrine of mutually assured destruction....aka...Russia knew that if they launched a nuclear attack ...so would we. Nobody wanted that...thus the cold war.

The MAD doctrine no longer applies in regards to the Islamic terrorists......they would be quite willing....or at least some of them to use WMD's despite any sort of reprisal we might or could make.

Dick Cheney admitted this early on.

Why Mutually Assured Destruction Can No Longer Keep the World from Annihilation

Time may or may not be on the side of the terrorist, I don't know but the results from multiple studies over the last 20 years indicate that people capable of cold blooded murder, willing to sacrifice their lives to accomplish their goals and having the skills needed are pretty rare. Judging from scenes of angry mobs shouting death to America and polls showing as much as 3% to 5% of Muslims favoring violent action, it's easy to conclude that the country and the world is teaming with terrorist ready, willing, and capable of do us great harm.

There is a huge gulf between approval of violent acts and actually performing those acts. Research has shown that this is do in part because support for violence does not equate with a willingness to engage in violent action. The two domains overlap, but are separate. Only a minuscule fraction, less than .1% of those holding extremist views will ever proceed to any violent action.

Most who enter the jihadist universe online go no further. The Internet allows vicarious participation. Online wannabes can thump their chest, threaten their foes, exhort each other to action, then turn off the computer and get a beer. However, for those who are willing to perform terrorist acts, being willing is only one component of being successful as terrorist.

Homeland Security has found that most would be Muslim extremist willing to commit terrorist acts lack the skills to carry out those acts. It takes many skills to enter the US, blend into the community, gather intelligence, and carry out the act. Generally, it requires a network and financial support and networks in the US are very vulnerable to leaks.

What most concerns anti-terrorist law enforcement is the home grown lone wolf who may be a Jihadist, fired employee, mental patient, political extremist, racist, or just a screwed up school kid. As we have seen they can do a lot of damage and they are almost impossible to detect until they actually act.

 

[whitehall]

Truman and the democrats established "HUAC". Whatever McCarthy's bombastic personality was, he was just a republican senator in a democrat majority. How the hell the crazy left wing media managed to name an entire era after him is anybody's guess.

 

[Flopper]

Truman and the democrats established "HUAC". Whatever McCarthy's bombastic personality was, he was just a republican senator in a democrat majority. How the hell the crazy left wing media managed to name an entire era after him is anybody's guess.

For the first 3 years of his term, McCarthy was an unknown to most of the public. He rose to prominence in February 1950 with his public charge that 205 communists had infiltrated the State Dept. creating a furor and catapulted him into headlines across the country. Upon subsequently testifying before the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, he proved unable to produce the name of a single “card-carrying communist” in any government department. Nevertheless, he gained increasing popular support for his campaign of accusations by capitalizing on the fears and frustrations of a country weary of the Korean War and appalled by communist advances in eastern Europe and China.

The period between 1950 and 1954 is referred to a the McCarthy Era because he was the face the anti-communist movement during this time. Almost daily he released press bulletins with claims of more communistic in government and just about every walk of life. He spoke on national television and in front of audiences all over the country, naming names of celebrities in Hollywood, top universities, the scientific community, government, and the press who were communist or sympathetic to the communistic cause. Rarely did he offer any proof to backup his claims. Many people he named were later called to testify before the House Un-American Activities Committee.

His downfall came in 1953 when he claimed a communist spy ring was operating at the top level of the US army. Later he announced officials close to Eisenhower were involve and that the president was aware it. This was the straw broke the camels back. Eisenhower called for a Senate investigation of the Army to determine if there was truth in McCarthy's allegations. When the investigation ended, McCarthy had not presently a single thread of evidence to substantiate his claims. On national television, McCarthy's was exposed. The Republican Senate opened up an investigation of McCarthy and censured him. Thus ended the McCarthy Era.
“Fire!” - Herblock's History: Political Cartoons from the Crash to the Millennium | Exhibitions - Library of Congress
Joseph McCarthy | United States senator
Joseph McCarthy - Wikipedia

 

[EvMetro]

Yet as has been revealed for some time now McCarthy was correct.

Communism - McCarthy Was Right


Outrageously even to this day the democats/liberals/socialists/marxists/communists continue to villify and lie about him despite the fact they should know better and perhaps they do but as per sop they never let the truth get in the way of their narrative.


The Vindication of Joseph McCarthy - The Objective Standard



On This Day: McCarthy warns of communists in State Department

McCarthy was right.

 

[MacTheKnife]

On the 141st birthday of President Abraham Lincoln, on February 12, 1950, Senator McCarthy passionately said:

'The reason why we find ourselves in a position of impotency is not because our only powerful, potential enemy has sent men to invade our shores, but rather because of the traitorous actions of those who have been treated so well by this nation…. This is glaringly true in the State Department. There the bright young men who are born with silver spoons in their mouths are the ones who have been worst…. In my opinion the State Department, which is one of the most important government departments, is thoroughly infested with communists.'

J.Egard Hoover worked very closely with Joe McCarthy and supplied him with most of the information McCarthy used to expose the massive scale of Soviet espionage in America.

Hoover got much or most of his informtion from the Venona Intercepts and at that time that operation was Top Secret and neither Hoover nor McCarthy could reveal the source of their information.

McCarthy and Hoover were up against the political establishment in Washington which used it's power to destroy McCarthy.

To this day the Senator is still attacked and demonized although the Venona Project is now known to the public and it reveals that McCarthy was right.

Venona project - Wikipedia

McCarthy's Legacy Still Misportrayed by Media After Venona Disclosure

Most-hated senator was right - WND



Exclusive Interview (CNSNews.com) - Journalist and author M. Stanton Evans argues in his new book, "Blacklisted By History," that declassified files from the United States and the Soviet Union prove that Sen. Joe McCarthy was right about the communist threat and that liberals have ignored the evidence and distorted history.


Documents Show Joe McCarthy Was Right, Author Says


M. Stanton Evans has written a Human Events column, “When Conservatives Parrot Liberal Lies about Joe McCarthy,” about how various conservative media personalities and politicians, including former Tennessee Republican Senator Fred Thompson, writers at Breitbart.com, National Review’s Rich Lowry and columnists/TV commentators Charles Krauthammer and George Will, have all used the term “McCarthyism” to refer to the antics of Harry Reid and others on the left. Evans writes that these conservatives “know nothing at all about McCarthy except what the liberals deign to tell them.


The McCarthyism fallacy: By successfully demonizing conservatism, the Left controls all debate – World Tribune: Window on the Real World


It's Time to See Joe McCarthy For the Hero He Was