The Myth of McCarthyism

[Cecilie1200]

In the forty years following the Russian Revolution of October 1917, communism was the most dynamic force in American left-wing politics


In the 1950's many democratic and elitist liberal republican Washington politicians and government workers had connections in their past with communism.

As has been pointed out previously...many Americans became enamoured with communism during the great depression followed by our alliance with Russia to fight German Nazism which added further reason for many in Washington...even members of the military....to be soft on communism or if not somehow personally involved had friends and relatives and other associates who were.

Our universities were ripe recruiting grounds for the communist internationale....many succumbed to the notion that communism had something to offer.

However, the American people finally woke to the barbaric reality of communism after WWII was over...and the people.....(not to include the elitists, academians and members of the msm) began to understand the threat communsim posed to liberty.

Thus those who had something in their history regarding communism felt threatened when the tide turned against communism.....and they did their best to hide their history and were quite fearful of being exposed.

Then along came Senator McCarthy who began to do exactly that.

Thus these people who had something to hide and much to fear ....organized and began to demonize to the best of their ability Senator McCarthy and his drive to rid our government and military of communists and communist sympathizers.

With the help of the media they were very successful at creating the myth of McCarthyism that has endured to this day.

Not even to mention that the front-runner in the democratic partys nomination process is for all intents and purposes --a communist--as has even been pointed out by Bill Clintons top advisor.

Carville fires back at Sanders for 'hack' slam: 'At least I'm not a communist'

Communism in the United States | Jewish Women's Archive

It is interesting that you consider Sander's a communist. I suspect that you are old enough that you consider socialism as synonymous with communism, totalitarianism, and the end democracy.

Sander's is most popular with the young, those under 40. They grew up without fear of annihilation by the Red Menace in a world in which runaway capitalism was a far greater danger than creeping socialism. They envy the socialist countries in Europe where kids go to college without being saddled by a lifetime of debt, where healthcare is a right not just for those that can afford it, and the quality of life is not measure by the size of a bank account.

The milennials are stupid and have little knowledge of history.....and think they are entitled to free stuff cuz dey are just o so special dats what dere mommy told them. bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa take a hike boy hehheh

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And they will be running the country in a few years

No, they'll be screaming at the children of the conservatives they're screaming at now while THEY run the country.

 

[Flopper]

Venona
Decoding Soviet Espionage in America



By 1948 the accumulating evidence from other decoded Venona cables showed that the Soviets had recruited spies in virtually every major American government agency of military or diplomatic importance. American authorities learned that since 1942 the United States had been the target of a Soviet espionage onslaught involving dozens of professional Soviet intelligence officers and hundreds of Americans, many of whom were members of the American Communist party (CPUSA). The deciphered cables of the Venona Project identify 349 citizens, immigrants, and permanent residents of the United States who had had a covert relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies (see appendix A). Further, American cryptanalysts in the Venona Project deciphered only a fraction of the Soviet intelligence traffic, so it was only logical to conclude that many additional agents were discussed in the thousands of unread messages. Some were identified from other sources, such as defectors' testimony and the confessions of Soviet spies (see appendix B).

The deciphered Venona messages also showed that a disturbing number of high-ranking U.S. government officials consciously maintained a clandestine relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies and had passed extraordinarily sensitive information to the Soviet Union that had seriously damaged American interests. Harry White--the second most powerful official in the U.S. Treasury Department, one of the most influential officials in the government, and part of the American delegation at the founding of the United Nations--had advised the KGB about how American diplomatic strategy could be frustrated. A trusted personal assistant to President Franklin Roosevelt, Lauchlin Currie, warned the KGB that the FBI had started an investigation of one of the Soviets' key American agents, Gregory Silvermaster. This warning allowed Silvermaster, who headed a highly productive espionage ring, to escape detection and continue spying. Maurice Halperin, the head of a research section of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), then America's chief intelligence arm, turned over hundreds of pages of secret American diplomatic cables to the KGB. William Perl, a brilliant young government aeronautical scientist, provided the Soviets with the results of the highly secret tests and design experiments for American jet engines and jet aircraft. His betrayal assisted the Soviet Union in quickly overcoming the American technological lead in the development of jets. In the Korean War, U.S. military leaders expected the Air Force to dominate the skies, on the assumption that the Soviet aircraft used by North Korea and Communist China would be no match for American aircraft. They were shocked when Soviet MiG-15 jet fighters not only flew rings around U.S. propeller-driven aircraft but were conspicuously superior to the first generation of American jets as well. Only the hurried deployment of America's newest jet fighter, the F-86 Saber, allowed the United States to match the technological capabilities of the MiG-15. The Air Force prevailed, owing more to the skill of American pilots than to the design of American aircraft.

Venona

Nobody gives a shit that they were hunting spies. Good for them. So they should have. What McCarthyism was, was a witch hunt. There were no checks and balances. The irony in this windbag, revisionist OP is that the things that McCarthy and all you other right-wing loons on this board are advocating is exactly how the Soviet Union was run. Guilty by association; throwing people to the dogs based on rumour and innuendo. And you whackadoodles are always accusing others of being anti-America yadda, yadda yadda when I'm hard pressed to find anything more unAmerican that the type of shit McCarthy got up to.

You notice, none of these people try too defend McCarthy's methods because if they did, they would be defending the methods used by the Communists and Nazis. Right wing fanatics are the first to defend the constitution and the first the violate it.

His "methods?" You mean having hearings in the Senate? Doesn't that make your heroes Adolph Shiffler, Nadless and Piglosi a bunch of McCarthyites?

McCarthyism was a campaign against alleged communists in the US government and other institutions. McCarthy was the spearhead and probably the most outspoken government offical. However, McCarthyism went far beyond his Senate Government Operations Committee.

McCarthyism was a two prong attack.

• First being accusations of being a communist or having sympathies for the cause. McCarthy issued press releases and made speeches accusing hundreds of people and organizations but rarely offering any evidence. The House of Un-American Activities Committee and the Senate Government Operations Committee called a number witness over the years. In reality these were mostly an integration, the purpose being to attack the witness's loyalty to the country or to solicit names of other possible communist, who were often called to testify.
• Second came the financial attack through firing, contract cancellations, and refusal to hire. Primary methods used were to put pressure on Hollywood Executives, and release of the FBI Responsibility Program information to governors. Fear of government exposure caused many large government contractors to start their on informal programs to make sure they did not have questionable people employed.

In the 50's, any discussion of communism other than to condemn it were quite likely to get you trouble. The real investigations of communist activity that lead to arrests for spying and espionage was done by the FBI. Congressional investigation were more about charter assignation of people who refused to participate in the McCarthyism inquisitions.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Venona
Decoding Soviet Espionage in America



By 1948 the accumulating evidence from other decoded Venona cables showed that the Soviets had recruited spies in virtually every major American government agency of military or diplomatic importance. American authorities learned that since 1942 the United States had been the target of a Soviet espionage onslaught involving dozens of professional Soviet intelligence officers and hundreds of Americans, many of whom were members of the American Communist party (CPUSA). The deciphered cables of the Venona Project identify 349 citizens, immigrants, and permanent residents of the United States who had had a covert relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies (see appendix A). Further, American cryptanalysts in the Venona Project deciphered only a fraction of the Soviet intelligence traffic, so it was only logical to conclude that many additional agents were discussed in the thousands of unread messages. Some were identified from other sources, such as defectors' testimony and the confessions of Soviet spies (see appendix B).

The deciphered Venona messages also showed that a disturbing number of high-ranking U.S. government officials consciously maintained a clandestine relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies and had passed extraordinarily sensitive information to the Soviet Union that had seriously damaged American interests. Harry White--the second most powerful official in the U.S. Treasury Department, one of the most influential officials in the government, and part of the American delegation at the founding of the United Nations--had advised the KGB about how American diplomatic strategy could be frustrated. A trusted personal assistant to President Franklin Roosevelt, Lauchlin Currie, warned the KGB that the FBI had started an investigation of one of the Soviets' key American agents, Gregory Silvermaster. This warning allowed Silvermaster, who headed a highly productive espionage ring, to escape detection and continue spying. Maurice Halperin, the head of a research section of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), then America's chief intelligence arm, turned over hundreds of pages of secret American diplomatic cables to the KGB. William Perl, a brilliant young government aeronautical scientist, provided the Soviets with the results of the highly secret tests and design experiments for American jet engines and jet aircraft. His betrayal assisted the Soviet Union in quickly overcoming the American technological lead in the development of jets. In the Korean War, U.S. military leaders expected the Air Force to dominate the skies, on the assumption that the Soviet aircraft used by North Korea and Communist China would be no match for American aircraft. They were shocked when Soviet MiG-15 jet fighters not only flew rings around U.S. propeller-driven aircraft but were conspicuously superior to the first generation of American jets as well. Only the hurried deployment of America's newest jet fighter, the F-86 Saber, allowed the United States to match the technological capabilities of the MiG-15. The Air Force prevailed, owing more to the skill of American pilots than to the design of American aircraft.

Venona

Nobody gives a shit that they were hunting spies. Good for them. So they should have. What McCarthyism was, was a witch hunt. There were no checks and balances. The irony in this windbag, revisionist OP is that the things that McCarthy and all you other right-wing loons on this board are advocating is exactly how the Soviet Union was run. Guilty by association; throwing people to the dogs based on rumour and innuendo. And you whackadoodles are always accusing others of being anti-America yadda, yadda yadda when I'm hard pressed to find anything more unAmerican that the type of shit McCarthy got up to.

You notice, none of these people try too defend McCarthy's methods because if they did, they would be defending the methods used by the Communists and Nazis. Right wing fanatics are the first to defend the constitution and the first the violate it.

Which methods are you condemning? Making speeches? Questioning people in front of Congressional sub-committees? Holding hearings? Basically all the same stuff the left routinely does to people for the "unspeakable crime" of working for Donald Trump?

If you think that's comparable to the Communists and the Nazis, then you're as dumb as Alexandria Occasional Cortex, because you forgot the essential next step of sending people to camps to be tortured and die. THAT would be the part that sane people object to Communists and Nazis over.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Venona
Decoding Soviet Espionage in America



By 1948 the accumulating evidence from other decoded Venona cables showed that the Soviets had recruited spies in virtually every major American government agency of military or diplomatic importance. American authorities learned that since 1942 the United States had been the target of a Soviet espionage onslaught involving dozens of professional Soviet intelligence officers and hundreds of Americans, many of whom were members of the American Communist party (CPUSA). The deciphered cables of the Venona Project identify 349 citizens, immigrants, and permanent residents of the United States who had had a covert relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies (see appendix A). Further, American cryptanalysts in the Venona Project deciphered only a fraction of the Soviet intelligence traffic, so it was only logical to conclude that many additional agents were discussed in the thousands of unread messages. Some were identified from other sources, such as defectors' testimony and the confessions of Soviet spies (see appendix B).

The deciphered Venona messages also showed that a disturbing number of high-ranking U.S. government officials consciously maintained a clandestine relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies and had passed extraordinarily sensitive information to the Soviet Union that had seriously damaged American interests. Harry White--the second most powerful official in the U.S. Treasury Department, one of the most influential officials in the government, and part of the American delegation at the founding of the United Nations--had advised the KGB about how American diplomatic strategy could be frustrated. A trusted personal assistant to President Franklin Roosevelt, Lauchlin Currie, warned the KGB that the FBI had started an investigation of one of the Soviets' key American agents, Gregory Silvermaster. This warning allowed Silvermaster, who headed a highly productive espionage ring, to escape detection and continue spying. Maurice Halperin, the head of a research section of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), then America's chief intelligence arm, turned over hundreds of pages of secret American diplomatic cables to the KGB. William Perl, a brilliant young government aeronautical scientist, provided the Soviets with the results of the highly secret tests and design experiments for American jet engines and jet aircraft. His betrayal assisted the Soviet Union in quickly overcoming the American technological lead in the development of jets. In the Korean War, U.S. military leaders expected the Air Force to dominate the skies, on the assumption that the Soviet aircraft used by North Korea and Communist China would be no match for American aircraft. They were shocked when Soviet MiG-15 jet fighters not only flew rings around U.S. propeller-driven aircraft but were conspicuously superior to the first generation of American jets as well. Only the hurried deployment of America's newest jet fighter, the F-86 Saber, allowed the United States to match the technological capabilities of the MiG-15. The Air Force prevailed, owing more to the skill of American pilots than to the design of American aircraft.

Venona

Nobody gives a shit that they were hunting spies. Good for them. So they should have. What McCarthyism was, was a witch hunt. There were no checks and balances. The irony in this windbag, revisionist OP is that the things that McCarthy and all you other right-wing loons on this board are advocating is exactly how the Soviet Union was run. Guilty by association; throwing people to the dogs based on rumour and innuendo. And you whackadoodles are always accusing others of being anti-America yadda, yadda yadda when I'm hard pressed to find anything more unAmerican that the type of shit McCarthy got up to.

You notice, none of these people try too defend McCarthy's methods because if they did, they would be defending the methods used by the Communists and Nazis. Right wing fanatics are the first to defend the constitution and the first the violate it.

His "methods?" You mean having hearings in the Senate? Doesn't that make your heroes Adolph Shiffler, Nadless and Piglosi a bunch of McCarthyites?

Great minds think alike.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Venona
Decoding Soviet Espionage in America



By 1948 the accumulating evidence from other decoded Venona cables showed that the Soviets had recruited spies in virtually every major American government agency of military or diplomatic importance. American authorities learned that since 1942 the United States had been the target of a Soviet espionage onslaught involving dozens of professional Soviet intelligence officers and hundreds of Americans, many of whom were members of the American Communist party (CPUSA). The deciphered cables of the Venona Project identify 349 citizens, immigrants, and permanent residents of the United States who had had a covert relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies (see appendix A). Further, American cryptanalysts in the Venona Project deciphered only a fraction of the Soviet intelligence traffic, so it was only logical to conclude that many additional agents were discussed in the thousands of unread messages. Some were identified from other sources, such as defectors' testimony and the confessions of Soviet spies (see appendix B).

The deciphered Venona messages also showed that a disturbing number of high-ranking U.S. government officials consciously maintained a clandestine relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies and had passed extraordinarily sensitive information to the Soviet Union that had seriously damaged American interests. Harry White--the second most powerful official in the U.S. Treasury Department, one of the most influential officials in the government, and part of the American delegation at the founding of the United Nations--had advised the KGB about how American diplomatic strategy could be frustrated. A trusted personal assistant to President Franklin Roosevelt, Lauchlin Currie, warned the KGB that the FBI had started an investigation of one of the Soviets' key American agents, Gregory Silvermaster. This warning allowed Silvermaster, who headed a highly productive espionage ring, to escape detection and continue spying. Maurice Halperin, the head of a research section of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), then America's chief intelligence arm, turned over hundreds of pages of secret American diplomatic cables to the KGB. William Perl, a brilliant young government aeronautical scientist, provided the Soviets with the results of the highly secret tests and design experiments for American jet engines and jet aircraft. His betrayal assisted the Soviet Union in quickly overcoming the American technological lead in the development of jets. In the Korean War, U.S. military leaders expected the Air Force to dominate the skies, on the assumption that the Soviet aircraft used by North Korea and Communist China would be no match for American aircraft. They were shocked when Soviet MiG-15 jet fighters not only flew rings around U.S. propeller-driven aircraft but were conspicuously superior to the first generation of American jets as well. Only the hurried deployment of America's newest jet fighter, the F-86 Saber, allowed the United States to match the technological capabilities of the MiG-15. The Air Force prevailed, owing more to the skill of American pilots than to the design of American aircraft.

Venona

Nobody gives a shit that they were hunting spies. Good for them. So they should have. What McCarthyism was, was a witch hunt. There were no checks and balances. The irony in this windbag, revisionist OP is that the things that McCarthy and all you other right-wing loons on this board are advocating is exactly how the Soviet Union was run. Guilty by association; throwing people to the dogs based on rumour and innuendo. And you whackadoodles are always accusing others of being anti-America yadda, yadda yadda when I'm hard pressed to find anything more unAmerican that the type of shit McCarthy got up to.

You notice, none of these people try too defend McCarthy's methods because if they did, they would be defending the methods used by the Communists and Nazis. Right wing fanatics are the first to defend the constitution and the first the violate it.

His "methods?" You mean having hearings in the Senate? Doesn't that make your heroes Adolph Shiffler, Nadless and Piglosi a bunch of McCarthyites?

McCarthyism was a campaign against alleged communists in the US government and other institutions. McCarthy was the spearhead and probably the most outspoken government offical. However, McCarthyism went far beyond his Senate Government Operations Committee.

McCarthyism was a two prong attack.

• First being accusations of being a communist or having sympathies for the cause. McCarthy issued press releases and made speeches accusing hundreds of people and organizations but rarely offering any evidence. The House of Un-American Activities Committee and the Senate Government Operations Committee called a number witness over the years. In reality these were mostly an integration, the purpose being to attack the witness's loyalty to the country or to solicit names of other possible communist, who were often called to testify.
• Second came the financial attack through firing, contract cancellations, and refusal to hire. Primary methods used were to put pressure on Hollywood Executives, and release of the FBI Responsibility Program information to governors. Fear of government exposure caused many large government contractors to start their on informal programs to make sure they did not have questionable people employed.

In the 50's, any discussion of communism other than to condemn it were quite likely to get you trouble. The real investigations of communist activity that lead to arrests for spying and espionage was done by the FBI. Congressional investigation were more about charter assignation of people who refused to participate in the McCarthyism inquisitions.

You should really cite the sources you plagiarize, so that you wouldn't have to bear the brunt of being so fantastically wrong all by yourself.

 

[Flopper]

In the forty years following the Russian Revolution of October 1917, communism was the most dynamic force in American left-wing politics


In the 1950's many democratic and elitist liberal republican Washington politicians and government workers had connections in their past with communism.

As has been pointed out previously...many Americans became enamoured with communism during the great depression followed by our alliance with Russia to fight German Nazism which added further reason for many in Washington...even members of the military....to be soft on communism or if not somehow personally involved had friends and relatives and other associates who were.

Our universities were ripe recruiting grounds for the communist internationale....many succumbed to the notion that communism had something to offer.

However, the American people finally woke to the barbaric reality of communism after WWII was over...and the people.....(not to include the elitists, academians and members of the msm) began to understand the threat communsim posed to liberty.

Thus those who had something in their history regarding communism felt threatened when the tide turned against communism.....and they did their best to hide their history and were quite fearful of being exposed.

Then along came Senator McCarthy who began to do exactly that.

Thus these people who had something to hide and much to fear ....organized and began to demonize to the best of their ability Senator McCarthy and his drive to rid our government and military of communists and communist sympathizers.

With the help of the media they were very successful at creating the myth of McCarthyism that has endured to this day.

Not even to mention that the front-runner in the democratic partys nomination process is for all intents and purposes --a communist--as has even been pointed out by Bill Clintons top advisor.

Carville fires back at Sanders for 'hack' slam: 'At least I'm not a communist'

Communism in the United States | Jewish Women's Archive

It is interesting that you consider Sander's a communist. I suspect that you are old enough that you consider socialism as synonymous with communism, totalitarianism, and the end democracy.

Sander's is most popular with the young, those under 40. They grew up without fear of annihilation by the Red Menace in a world in which runaway capitalism was a far greater danger than creeping socialism. They envy the socialist countries in Europe where kids go to college without being saddled by a lifetime of debt, where healthcare is a right not just for those that can afford it, and the quality of life is not measure by the size of a bank account.

So you admit that Sanders only appeals to people who are too young to understand what he's really talking about.

I said, Sander's is most popular with the young, those under 40. Being under 40 does not imply a lack of understanding.

 

[Flopper]

Venona
Decoding Soviet Espionage in America



By 1948 the accumulating evidence from other decoded Venona cables showed that the Soviets had recruited spies in virtually every major American government agency of military or diplomatic importance. American authorities learned that since 1942 the United States had been the target of a Soviet espionage onslaught involving dozens of professional Soviet intelligence officers and hundreds of Americans, many of whom were members of the American Communist party (CPUSA). The deciphered cables of the Venona Project identify 349 citizens, immigrants, and permanent residents of the United States who had had a covert relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies (see appendix A). Further, American cryptanalysts in the Venona Project deciphered only a fraction of the Soviet intelligence traffic, so it was only logical to conclude that many additional agents were discussed in the thousands of unread messages. Some were identified from other sources, such as defectors' testimony and the confessions of Soviet spies (see appendix B).

The deciphered Venona messages also showed that a disturbing number of high-ranking U.S. government officials consciously maintained a clandestine relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies and had passed extraordinarily sensitive information to the Soviet Union that had seriously damaged American interests. Harry White--the second most powerful official in the U.S. Treasury Department, one of the most influential officials in the government, and part of the American delegation at the founding of the United Nations--had advised the KGB about how American diplomatic strategy could be frustrated. A trusted personal assistant to President Franklin Roosevelt, Lauchlin Currie, warned the KGB that the FBI had started an investigation of one of the Soviets' key American agents, Gregory Silvermaster. This warning allowed Silvermaster, who headed a highly productive espionage ring, to escape detection and continue spying. Maurice Halperin, the head of a research section of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), then America's chief intelligence arm, turned over hundreds of pages of secret American diplomatic cables to the KGB. William Perl, a brilliant young government aeronautical scientist, provided the Soviets with the results of the highly secret tests and design experiments for American jet engines and jet aircraft. His betrayal assisted the Soviet Union in quickly overcoming the American technological lead in the development of jets. In the Korean War, U.S. military leaders expected the Air Force to dominate the skies, on the assumption that the Soviet aircraft used by North Korea and Communist China would be no match for American aircraft. They were shocked when Soviet MiG-15 jet fighters not only flew rings around U.S. propeller-driven aircraft but were conspicuously superior to the first generation of American jets as well. Only the hurried deployment of America's newest jet fighter, the F-86 Saber, allowed the United States to match the technological capabilities of the MiG-15. The Air Force prevailed, owing more to the skill of American pilots than to the design of American aircraft.

Venona

Nobody gives a shit that they were hunting spies. Good for them. So they should have. What McCarthyism was, was a witch hunt. There were no checks and balances. The irony in this windbag, revisionist OP is that the things that McCarthy and all you other right-wing loons on this board are advocating is exactly how the Soviet Union was run. Guilty by association; throwing people to the dogs based on rumour and innuendo. And you whackadoodles are always accusing others of being anti-America yadda, yadda yadda when I'm hard pressed to find anything more unAmerican that the type of shit McCarthy got up to.

You notice, none of these people try too defend McCarthy's methods because if they did, they would be defending the methods used by the Communists and Nazis. Right wing fanatics are the first to defend the constitution and the first the violate it.

Which methods are you condemning? Making speeches? Questioning people in front of Congressional sub-committees? Holding hearings? Basically all the same stuff the left routinely does to people for the "unspeakable crime" of working for Donald Trump?

If you think that's comparable to the Communists and the Nazis, then you're as dumb as Alexandria Occasional Cortex, because you forgot the essential next step of sending people to camps to be tortured and die. THAT would be the part that sane people object to Communists and Nazis over.

Violation of rights, making accusations without evidence, pressuring employers not to hire those accused. Those were exactly the methods used by both the Nazis and the Communist.

 

[bripat9643]

Venona
Decoding Soviet Espionage in America



By 1948 the accumulating evidence from other decoded Venona cables showed that the Soviets had recruited spies in virtually every major American government agency of military or diplomatic importance. American authorities learned that since 1942 the United States had been the target of a Soviet espionage onslaught involving dozens of professional Soviet intelligence officers and hundreds of Americans, many of whom were members of the American Communist party (CPUSA). The deciphered cables of the Venona Project identify 349 citizens, immigrants, and permanent residents of the United States who had had a covert relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies (see appendix A). Further, American cryptanalysts in the Venona Project deciphered only a fraction of the Soviet intelligence traffic, so it was only logical to conclude that many additional agents were discussed in the thousands of unread messages. Some were identified from other sources, such as defectors' testimony and the confessions of Soviet spies (see appendix B).

The deciphered Venona messages also showed that a disturbing number of high-ranking U.S. government officials consciously maintained a clandestine relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies and had passed extraordinarily sensitive information to the Soviet Union that had seriously damaged American interests. Harry White--the second most powerful official in the U.S. Treasury Department, one of the most influential officials in the government, and part of the American delegation at the founding of the United Nations--had advised the KGB about how American diplomatic strategy could be frustrated. A trusted personal assistant to President Franklin Roosevelt, Lauchlin Currie, warned the KGB that the FBI had started an investigation of one of the Soviets' key American agents, Gregory Silvermaster. This warning allowed Silvermaster, who headed a highly productive espionage ring, to escape detection and continue spying. Maurice Halperin, the head of a research section of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), then America's chief intelligence arm, turned over hundreds of pages of secret American diplomatic cables to the KGB. William Perl, a brilliant young government aeronautical scientist, provided the Soviets with the results of the highly secret tests and design experiments for American jet engines and jet aircraft. His betrayal assisted the Soviet Union in quickly overcoming the American technological lead in the development of jets. In the Korean War, U.S. military leaders expected the Air Force to dominate the skies, on the assumption that the Soviet aircraft used by North Korea and Communist China would be no match for American aircraft. They were shocked when Soviet MiG-15 jet fighters not only flew rings around U.S. propeller-driven aircraft but were conspicuously superior to the first generation of American jets as well. Only the hurried deployment of America's newest jet fighter, the F-86 Saber, allowed the United States to match the technological capabilities of the MiG-15. The Air Force prevailed, owing more to the skill of American pilots than to the design of American aircraft.

Venona

Nobody gives a shit that they were hunting spies. Good for them. So they should have. What McCarthyism was, was a witch hunt. There were no checks and balances. The irony in this windbag, revisionist OP is that the things that McCarthy and all you other right-wing loons on this board are advocating is exactly how the Soviet Union was run. Guilty by association; throwing people to the dogs based on rumour and innuendo. And you whackadoodles are always accusing others of being anti-America yadda, yadda yadda when I'm hard pressed to find anything more unAmerican that the type of shit McCarthy got up to.

You notice, none of these people try too defend McCarthy's methods because if they did, they would be defending the methods used by the Communists and Nazis. Right wing fanatics are the first to defend the constitution and the first the violate it.

Which methods are you condemning? Making speeches? Questioning people in front of Congressional sub-committees? Holding hearings? Basically all the same stuff the left routinely does to people for the "unspeakable crime" of working for Donald Trump?

If you think that's comparable to the Communists and the Nazis, then you're as dumb as Alexandria Occasional Cortex, because you forgot the essential next step of sending people to camps to be tortured and die. THAT would be the part that sane people object to Communists and Nazis over.

Violation of rights, making accusations without evidence, pressuring employers not to hire those accused. Those were exactly the methods used by both the Nazis and the Communist.

What rights were violated?

McCarthy had plenty of evidence. He had the Venona cables and FBI files.

The federal government has no obligation to hire members of the Communist party.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

In the forty years following the Russian Revolution of October 1917, communism was the most dynamic force in American left-wing politics


In the 1950's many democratic and elitist liberal republican Washington politicians and government workers had connections in their past with communism.

As has been pointed out previously...many Americans became enamoured with communism during the great depression followed by our alliance with Russia to fight German Nazism which added further reason for many in Washington...even members of the military....to be soft on communism or if not somehow personally involved had friends and relatives and other associates who were.

Our universities were ripe recruiting grounds for the communist internationale....many succumbed to the notion that communism had something to offer.

However, the American people finally woke to the barbaric reality of communism after WWII was over...and the people.....(not to include the elitists, academians and members of the msm) began to understand the threat communsim posed to liberty.

Thus those who had something in their history regarding communism felt threatened when the tide turned against communism.....and they did their best to hide their history and were quite fearful of being exposed.

Then along came Senator McCarthy who began to do exactly that.

Thus these people who had something to hide and much to fear ....organized and began to demonize to the best of their ability Senator McCarthy and his drive to rid our government and military of communists and communist sympathizers.

With the help of the media they were very successful at creating the myth of McCarthyism that has endured to this day.

Not even to mention that the front-runner in the democratic partys nomination process is for all intents and purposes --a communist--as has even been pointed out by Bill Clintons top advisor.

Carville fires back at Sanders for 'hack' slam: 'At least I'm not a communist'

Communism in the United States | Jewish Women's Archive

It is interesting that you consider Sander's a communist. I suspect that you are old enough that you consider socialism as synonymous with communism, totalitarianism, and the end democracy.

Sander's is most popular with the young, those under 40. They grew up without fear of annihilation by the Red Menace in a world in which runaway capitalism was a far greater danger than creeping socialism. They envy the socialist countries in Europe where kids go to college without being saddled by a lifetime of debt, where healthcare is a right not just for those that can afford it, and the quality of life is not measure by the size of a bank account.

So you admit that Sanders only appeals to people who are too young to understand what he's really talking about.

Being young doesn't mean they are necessarily stupid. Being old doesn't necessarily mean we are smart.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Venona
Decoding Soviet Espionage in America



By 1948 the accumulating evidence from other decoded Venona cables showed that the Soviets had recruited spies in virtually every major American government agency of military or diplomatic importance. American authorities learned that since 1942 the United States had been the target of a Soviet espionage onslaught involving dozens of professional Soviet intelligence officers and hundreds of Americans, many of whom were members of the American Communist party (CPUSA). The deciphered cables of the Venona Project identify 349 citizens, immigrants, and permanent residents of the United States who had had a covert relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies (see appendix A). Further, American cryptanalysts in the Venona Project deciphered only a fraction of the Soviet intelligence traffic, so it was only logical to conclude that many additional agents were discussed in the thousands of unread messages. Some were identified from other sources, such as defectors' testimony and the confessions of Soviet spies (see appendix B).

The deciphered Venona messages also showed that a disturbing number of high-ranking U.S. government officials consciously maintained a clandestine relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies and had passed extraordinarily sensitive information to the Soviet Union that had seriously damaged American interests. Harry White--the second most powerful official in the U.S. Treasury Department, one of the most influential officials in the government, and part of the American delegation at the founding of the United Nations--had advised the KGB about how American diplomatic strategy could be frustrated. A trusted personal assistant to President Franklin Roosevelt, Lauchlin Currie, warned the KGB that the FBI had started an investigation of one of the Soviets' key American agents, Gregory Silvermaster. This warning allowed Silvermaster, who headed a highly productive espionage ring, to escape detection and continue spying. Maurice Halperin, the head of a research section of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), then America's chief intelligence arm, turned over hundreds of pages of secret American diplomatic cables to the KGB. William Perl, a brilliant young government aeronautical scientist, provided the Soviets with the results of the highly secret tests and design experiments for American jet engines and jet aircraft. His betrayal assisted the Soviet Union in quickly overcoming the American technological lead in the development of jets. In the Korean War, U.S. military leaders expected the Air Force to dominate the skies, on the assumption that the Soviet aircraft used by North Korea and Communist China would be no match for American aircraft. They were shocked when Soviet MiG-15 jet fighters not only flew rings around U.S. propeller-driven aircraft but were conspicuously superior to the first generation of American jets as well. Only the hurried deployment of America's newest jet fighter, the F-86 Saber, allowed the United States to match the technological capabilities of the MiG-15. The Air Force prevailed, owing more to the skill of American pilots than to the design of American aircraft.

Venona

Nobody gives a shit that they were hunting spies. Good for them. So they should have. What McCarthyism was, was a witch hunt. There were no checks and balances. The irony in this windbag, revisionist OP is that the things that McCarthy and all you other right-wing loons on this board are advocating is exactly how the Soviet Union was run. Guilty by association; throwing people to the dogs based on rumour and innuendo. And you whackadoodles are always accusing others of being anti-America yadda, yadda yadda when I'm hard pressed to find anything more unAmerican that the type of shit McCarthy got up to.

You notice, none of these people try too defend McCarthy's methods because if they did, they would be defending the methods used by the Communists and Nazis. Right wing fanatics are the first to defend the constitution and the first the violate it.

Which methods are you condemning? Making speeches? Questioning people in front of Congressional sub-committees? Holding hearings? Basically all the same stuff the left routinely does to people for the "unspeakable crime" of working for Donald Trump?

If you think that's comparable to the Communists and the Nazis, then you're as dumb as Alexandria Occasional Cortex, because you forgot the essential next step of sending people to camps to be tortured and die. THAT would be the part that sane people object to Communists and Nazis over.

Violation of rights, making accusations without evidence, pressuring employers not to hire those accused. Those were exactly the methods used by both the Nazis and the Communist.

Newsflash: There chippy, it's just too easy for a DB to be presented for all people that are legal to work. In case you haven't figured it out, you are in a lot of different DBs already. If a person is not in that DB, he can find out during his job application process. If it's in error, he can easily get it corrected with a Birth Certificate or legal documents for LEGAL Immigrants. And then he or She is eligible for employment. The safe document would be a Social Security Card. We are all on that list. And yes, I know, some are faked but that's going to show up pretty quickly after hire. Then you fired that person and bring in someone legal. Of course, have ICE escort the illegal off your premises.

 

[Dr Grump]

You notice, none of these people try too defend McCarthy's methods because if they did, they would be defending the methods used by the Communists and Nazis. Right wing fanatics are the first to defend the constitution and the first the violate it.

See my post number 137..

 

[Dr Grump]

Venona
Decoding Soviet Espionage in America



By 1948 the accumulating evidence from other decoded Venona cables showed that the Soviets had recruited spies in virtually every major American government agency of military or diplomatic importance. American authorities learned that since 1942 the United States had been the target of a Soviet espionage onslaught involving dozens of professional Soviet intelligence officers and hundreds of Americans, many of whom were members of the American Communist party (CPUSA). The deciphered cables of the Venona Project identify 349 citizens, immigrants, and permanent residents of the United States who had had a covert relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies (see appendix A). Further, American cryptanalysts in the Venona Project deciphered only a fraction of the Soviet intelligence traffic, so it was only logical to conclude that many additional agents were discussed in the thousands of unread messages. Some were identified from other sources, such as defectors' testimony and the confessions of Soviet spies (see appendix B).

The deciphered Venona messages also showed that a disturbing number of high-ranking U.S. government officials consciously maintained a clandestine relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies and had passed extraordinarily sensitive information to the Soviet Union that had seriously damaged American interests. Harry White--the second most powerful official in the U.S. Treasury Department, one of the most influential officials in the government, and part of the American delegation at the founding of the United Nations--had advised the KGB about how American diplomatic strategy could be frustrated. A trusted personal assistant to President Franklin Roosevelt, Lauchlin Currie, warned the KGB that the FBI had started an investigation of one of the Soviets' key American agents, Gregory Silvermaster. This warning allowed Silvermaster, who headed a highly productive espionage ring, to escape detection and continue spying. Maurice Halperin, the head of a research section of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), then America's chief intelligence arm, turned over hundreds of pages of secret American diplomatic cables to the KGB. William Perl, a brilliant young government aeronautical scientist, provided the Soviets with the results of the highly secret tests and design experiments for American jet engines and jet aircraft. His betrayal assisted the Soviet Union in quickly overcoming the American technological lead in the development of jets. In the Korean War, U.S. military leaders expected the Air Force to dominate the skies, on the assumption that the Soviet aircraft used by North Korea and Communist China would be no match for American aircraft. They were shocked when Soviet MiG-15 jet fighters not only flew rings around U.S. propeller-driven aircraft but were conspicuously superior to the first generation of American jets as well. Only the hurried deployment of America's newest jet fighter, the F-86 Saber, allowed the United States to match the technological capabilities of the MiG-15. The Air Force prevailed, owing more to the skill of American pilots than to the design of American aircraft.

Venona

Nobody gives a shit that they were hunting spies. Good for them. So they should have. What McCarthyism was, was a witch hunt. There were no checks and balances. The irony in this windbag, revisionist OP is that the things that McCarthy and all you other right-wing loons on this board are advocating is exactly how the Soviet Union was run. Guilty by association; throwing people to the dogs based on rumour and innuendo. And you whackadoodles are always accusing others of being anti-America yadda, yadda yadda when I'm hard pressed to find anything more unAmerican that the type of shit McCarthy got up to.

You notice, none of these people try too defend McCarthy's methods because if they did, they would be defending the methods used by the Communists and Nazis. Right wing fanatics are the first to defend the constitution and the first the violate it.

His "methods?" You mean having hearings in the Senate? Doesn't that make your heroes Adolph Shiffler, Nadless and Piglosi a bunch of McCarthyites?

Great minds think alike.

Ha! You and Bri thinking you have great minds is like saying Adolf Hitler was a nice guy. You are both dumb as posts...

 

[Cecilie1200]

In the forty years following the Russian Revolution of October 1917, communism was the most dynamic force in American left-wing politics


In the 1950's many democratic and elitist liberal republican Washington politicians and government workers had connections in their past with communism.

As has been pointed out previously...many Americans became enamoured with communism during the great depression followed by our alliance with Russia to fight German Nazism which added further reason for many in Washington...even members of the military....to be soft on communism or if not somehow personally involved had friends and relatives and other associates who were.

Our universities were ripe recruiting grounds for the communist internationale....many succumbed to the notion that communism had something to offer.

However, the American people finally woke to the barbaric reality of communism after WWII was over...and the people.....(not to include the elitists, academians and members of the msm) began to understand the threat communsim posed to liberty.

Thus those who had something in their history regarding communism felt threatened when the tide turned against communism.....and they did their best to hide their history and were quite fearful of being exposed.

Then along came Senator McCarthy who began to do exactly that.

Thus these people who had something to hide and much to fear ....organized and began to demonize to the best of their ability Senator McCarthy and his drive to rid our government and military of communists and communist sympathizers.

With the help of the media they were very successful at creating the myth of McCarthyism that has endured to this day.

Not even to mention that the front-runner in the democratic partys nomination process is for all intents and purposes --a communist--as has even been pointed out by Bill Clintons top advisor.

Carville fires back at Sanders for 'hack' slam: 'At least I'm not a communist'

Communism in the United States | Jewish Women's Archive

It is interesting that you consider Sander's a communist. I suspect that you are old enough that you consider socialism as synonymous with communism, totalitarianism, and the end democracy.

Sander's is most popular with the young, those under 40. They grew up without fear of annihilation by the Red Menace in a world in which runaway capitalism was a far greater danger than creeping socialism. They envy the socialist countries in Europe where kids go to college without being saddled by a lifetime of debt, where healthcare is a right not just for those that can afford it, and the quality of life is not measure by the size of a bank account.

So you admit that Sanders only appeals to people who are too young to understand what he's really talking about.

I said, Sander's is most popular with the young, those under 40. Being under 40 does not imply a lack of understanding.

About things that happened before you were born, and which leftist-run schools assiduously do not teach? Yeah, it does.

We've seen this cycle with socialism and communism before. They appeal to people too young to remember the previous disastrous attempt, and it sounds really good to them on paper, and then they try it, and a disaster happens, and then they wait until enough time has passed, and start from the top.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Venona
Decoding Soviet Espionage in America



By 1948 the accumulating evidence from other decoded Venona cables showed that the Soviets had recruited spies in virtually every major American government agency of military or diplomatic importance. American authorities learned that since 1942 the United States had been the target of a Soviet espionage onslaught involving dozens of professional Soviet intelligence officers and hundreds of Americans, many of whom were members of the American Communist party (CPUSA). The deciphered cables of the Venona Project identify 349 citizens, immigrants, and permanent residents of the United States who had had a covert relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies (see appendix A). Further, American cryptanalysts in the Venona Project deciphered only a fraction of the Soviet intelligence traffic, so it was only logical to conclude that many additional agents were discussed in the thousands of unread messages. Some were identified from other sources, such as defectors' testimony and the confessions of Soviet spies (see appendix B).

The deciphered Venona messages also showed that a disturbing number of high-ranking U.S. government officials consciously maintained a clandestine relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies and had passed extraordinarily sensitive information to the Soviet Union that had seriously damaged American interests. Harry White--the second most powerful official in the U.S. Treasury Department, one of the most influential officials in the government, and part of the American delegation at the founding of the United Nations--had advised the KGB about how American diplomatic strategy could be frustrated. A trusted personal assistant to President Franklin Roosevelt, Lauchlin Currie, warned the KGB that the FBI had started an investigation of one of the Soviets' key American agents, Gregory Silvermaster. This warning allowed Silvermaster, who headed a highly productive espionage ring, to escape detection and continue spying. Maurice Halperin, the head of a research section of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), then America's chief intelligence arm, turned over hundreds of pages of secret American diplomatic cables to the KGB. William Perl, a brilliant young government aeronautical scientist, provided the Soviets with the results of the highly secret tests and design experiments for American jet engines and jet aircraft. His betrayal assisted the Soviet Union in quickly overcoming the American technological lead in the development of jets. In the Korean War, U.S. military leaders expected the Air Force to dominate the skies, on the assumption that the Soviet aircraft used by North Korea and Communist China would be no match for American aircraft. They were shocked when Soviet MiG-15 jet fighters not only flew rings around U.S. propeller-driven aircraft but were conspicuously superior to the first generation of American jets as well. Only the hurried deployment of America's newest jet fighter, the F-86 Saber, allowed the United States to match the technological capabilities of the MiG-15. The Air Force prevailed, owing more to the skill of American pilots than to the design of American aircraft.

Venona

Nobody gives a shit that they were hunting spies. Good for them. So they should have. What McCarthyism was, was a witch hunt. There were no checks and balances. The irony in this windbag, revisionist OP is that the things that McCarthy and all you other right-wing loons on this board are advocating is exactly how the Soviet Union was run. Guilty by association; throwing people to the dogs based on rumour and innuendo. And you whackadoodles are always accusing others of being anti-America yadda, yadda yadda when I'm hard pressed to find anything more unAmerican that the type of shit McCarthy got up to.

You notice, none of these people try too defend McCarthy's methods because if they did, they would be defending the methods used by the Communists and Nazis. Right wing fanatics are the first to defend the constitution and the first the violate it.

Which methods are you condemning? Making speeches? Questioning people in front of Congressional sub-committees? Holding hearings? Basically all the same stuff the left routinely does to people for the "unspeakable crime" of working for Donald Trump?

If you think that's comparable to the Communists and the Nazis, then you're as dumb as Alexandria Occasional Cortex, because you forgot the essential next step of sending people to camps to be tortured and die. THAT would be the part that sane people object to Communists and Nazis over.

Violation of rights, making accusations without evidence, pressuring employers not to hire those accused. Those were exactly the methods used by both the Nazis and the Communist.

None of which you have ever been able to specify to us, despite having been asked multiple times. I cannot imagine what has ever happened on this board to make you hopeful that you could just state something and have it be believed.

 

[MacTheKnife]

Venona
Decoding Soviet Espionage in America



By 1948 the accumulating evidence from other decoded Venona cables showed that the Soviets had recruited spies in virtually every major American government agency of military or diplomatic importance. American authorities learned that since 1942 the United States had been the target of a Soviet espionage onslaught involving dozens of professional Soviet intelligence officers and hundreds of Americans, many of whom were members of the American Communist party (CPUSA). The deciphered cables of the Venona Project identify 349 citizens, immigrants, and permanent residents of the United States who had had a covert relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies (see appendix A). Further, American cryptanalysts in the Venona Project deciphered only a fraction of the Soviet intelligence traffic, so it was only logical to conclude that many additional agents were discussed in the thousands of unread messages. Some were identified from other sources, such as defectors' testimony and the confessions of Soviet spies (see appendix B).

The deciphered Venona messages also showed that a disturbing number of high-ranking U.S. government officials consciously maintained a clandestine relationship with Soviet intelligence agencies and had passed extraordinarily sensitive information to the Soviet Union that had seriously damaged American interests. Harry White--the second most powerful official in the U.S. Treasury Department, one of the most influential officials in the government, and part of the American delegation at the founding of the United Nations--had advised the KGB about how American diplomatic strategy could be frustrated. A trusted personal assistant to President Franklin Roosevelt, Lauchlin Currie, warned the KGB that the FBI had started an investigation of one of the Soviets' key American agents, Gregory Silvermaster. This warning allowed Silvermaster, who headed a highly productive espionage ring, to escape detection and continue spying. Maurice Halperin, the head of a research section of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), then America's chief intelligence arm, turned over hundreds of pages of secret American diplomatic cables to the KGB. William Perl, a brilliant young government aeronautical scientist, provided the Soviets with the results of the highly secret tests and design experiments for American jet engines and jet aircraft. His betrayal assisted the Soviet Union in quickly overcoming the American technological lead in the development of jets. In the Korean War, U.S. military leaders expected the Air Force to dominate the skies, on the assumption that the Soviet aircraft used by North Korea and Communist China would be no match for American aircraft. They were shocked when Soviet MiG-15 jet fighters not only flew rings around U.S. propeller-driven aircraft but were conspicuously superior to the first generation of American jets as well. Only the hurried deployment of America's newest jet fighter, the F-86 Saber, allowed the United States to match the technological capabilities of the MiG-15. The Air Force prevailed, owing more to the skill of American pilots than to the design of American aircraft.

Venona

Nobody gives a shit that they were hunting spies. Good for them. So they should have. What McCarthyism was, was a witch hunt. There were no checks and balances. The irony in this windbag, revisionist OP is that the things that McCarthy and all you other right-wing loons on this board are advocating is exactly how the Soviet Union was run. Guilty by association; throwing people to the dogs based on rumour and innuendo. And you whackadoodles are always accusing others of being anti-America yadda, yadda yadda when I'm hard pressed to find anything more unAmerican that the type of shit McCarthy got up to.

You notice, none of these people try too defend McCarthy's methods because if they did, they would be defending the methods used by the Communists and Nazis. Right wing fanatics are the first to defend the constitution and the first the violate it.

Which methods are you condemning? Making speeches? Questioning people in front of Congressional sub-committees? Holding hearings? Basically all the same stuff the left routinely does to people for the "unspeakable crime" of working for Donald Trump?

If you think that's comparable to the Communists and the Nazis, then you're as dumb as Alexandria Occasional Cortex, because you forgot the essential next step of sending people to camps to be tortured and die. THAT would be the part that sane people object to Communists and Nazis over.

Violation of rights, making accusations without evidence, pressuring employers not to hire those accused. Those were exactly the methods used by both the Nazis and the Communist.

None of which you have ever been able to specify to us, despite having been asked multiple times. I cannot imagine what has ever happened on this board to make you hopeful that you could just state something and have it be believed.

If he ever had any credibility his performance on this thread has destroyed it.

 

[Flopper]

You notice, none of these people try too defend McCarthy's methods because if they did, they would be defending the methods used by the Communists and Nazis. Right wing fanatics are the first to defend the constitution and the first the violate it.

See my post number 137..

I did and agree.

 

[MacTheKnife]

You notice, none of these people try too defend McCarthy's methods because if they did, they would be defending the methods used by the Communists and Nazis. Right wing fanatics are the first to defend the constitution and the first the violate it.

See my post number 137..

I did and agree.

Neither of you cite any sources for the allegations you make...all you have is the liberal narrative of innuendo, rumor and lies.

Identify the methods of Mac that you think were so horrible...and the names of those you allege he mistreated and evidence to support your charges.

Now .....Let us look at some of the lies about Senator Joe McCarthy

The standard liberal narrative of Joseph McCarthy’s death is that it was due to liver complications from too much alcohol – or put more bluntly, McCarthy died of alcoholism.....which is not supported by the official death certificate............

Senator McCarthy entered Bethesda Naval Hospital April 28, 1957 for a knee injury he sustained while serving as a Marine in World War 2. He died on May 2 with the official cause of death given as “hepatitis, acute, cause unknown” of a “noninfectious type”.

The myth of McCarthy’s alcoholism was concocted to provide plausible affirmability of the liver theory. Dave Martin states that close associates of McCarthy at the time of his death related that the senator could not drink because of prior hepatitis infection.

Biographer M Stanton Evans also explained that although McCarthy was a social drinker, he laboriously nursed a single drink in order to maintain control of his mental faculties, recognizing that intoxication was a quick way to sink a political career.

Even the official documents claiming hepatitis are not to be believed, but since Wikipedia is a mouth piece for the US government and a shill for establishment historians, at the least it should hew the line on the official cause of death. It instead opts for the smarmy declaration that “It was hinted in the press that he died of alcoholism, an estimation that is accepted by contemporary biographers.”

Martin shrewdly notes that since the cause of the hepatitis was unknown, he could not have been treated for anything. In other words McCarthy did not suffer any of the types A-E for which treatment would be prescribed. Martin informs us that hepatitis may result from either infection or poisoning.

Martin also notes that McCarthy suffered infectious hepatitis in the early 1950s, subsequent to which he may have continued his moderate social drinking – although not in the months leading to his death - which may give plausibility to drinking as the cause of death. McCarthy was reported by friends such as the Kohlbergs and the senator’s wife as being in very good health in the week prior to his death. So an explanation is required to determine his sudden reversal, and it surely was not due to his knee injury.

The US government refused to obey local and national law regarding the performance of an autopsy upon McCarthy’s death. Martin relates that a friend of McCarthy, a certain Mr Engel, acting on behalf of the family, pleaded with the local, state, and national authorities to conduct an autopsy, but they unanimously refused even though required by law. Clearly the governments had something to hide.

The story then is that McCarthy was admitted to Bethesda Naval Hospital on April 27 for a knee injury. Then news accounts claimed that he suffered “acute hepatitis” for which he was put into an oxygen tent from which he was removed Tuesday, improving, though still in serious condition. Then his health took a turn for the worse, whereupon he died May 2.

This story doesn’t pass the smell test. Martin reports that non-infectious hepatitis has a mortality rate of only 5-10%. The most likely explanation of death is that the healthy McCarthy entered Bethesda for treatment of a knee injury, which the hospital then reported as hepatitis.

It is impossible for us to believe that a man who was healthy and feeling good - who walked into the hospital for treatment of a knee injury - died within 5 days of such admission from “acute hepatitis.” His past illness of hepatitis was the plausible story that he died of it while in Bethesda. He did not drink for months prior to admission to the hospital.

The so-called Army-McCarthy hearings were a turning point in the investigation into Soviet espionage in the United States, an event which earned the senator some powerful enemies, namely the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the entire seamy intelligence world infiltrated with soviet sympathizers and spies.

More lies about Senator Joe MacCarthy.............More lies about McCarthy


https://www.amazon.com/Blacklisted-...ricas/dp/1400081068&tag=ff0d01-20?tag=usmb-20


Sen. Joseph McCarthy: Facts, Not The Catechism Of Lies

When conservatives parrot liberal lies about Joe McCarthy


Reference

Dave Martin, James Forrestal And Joe McCarthy, rense.com, September 29, 2011, accessed 10/11/2015

M Stanton Evans, Blacklisted by History, Three Rivers Press, New York, 2007, [Scribd Excerpt]

Wikipedia contributors. Joseph McCarthy. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. October 11, 2015, 15:15 UTC.

DC Dave, Why Senator Joe McCarthy Had to Be Destroyed, Before It's News, July 27, 2014, accessed 10/11/2015

https://www.amazon.com/Conspiracy-So-Immense-World-McCarthy/dp/1982124040/?tag=usmb-20

When conservatives parrot liberal lies about Joe McCarthy


Joe McCarthy Was Right

Despite a campaign of attack launched against McCarthy by his political enemies in Congress and in the establishment media, over the next two years he persisted in his efforts to unmask the truth about communist penetration of the United States government. When the elections of 1952 gave the Republicans a majority in the Senate, McCarthy ascended to the chairmanship of the Government Operations Committee, and under the authority of the GOC’s Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, he instigated a series of hearings designed to uncover the truth about the communist menace on American soil. Specifically, McCarthy wanted to find out if people with connections to the American Communist Party or sympathetic to the goals of international communism in general were occupying sensitive positions inside the federal government, and among the organizations he targeted for investigation were the State Department, the CIA, the U.S. Information Agency, and the U.S. Army.


Who was Joseph McCarthy, and why is he, without question, hands-down -- the most widely and most viciously vilified personage in American history? The official version of history -- written by academic operatives serving the same ruling class which McCarthy sought to expose – teaches us that the Wisconsin Senator was a nasty bullying brute who dirtied the reputations of anyone who disagreed with him politically. As the story goes, if one was a “liberal,” the demagogue McCarthy slandered him as a “communist” and, just like that, an innocent man, or woman, was ruined. McCarthy’s mole-hunting came to be known as “McCarthyism” – a derogatory term still used today to describe political slanderers. More than sixty years after his crusade against “Red” traitors was stopped in its tracks, American school children, who learn very little about history (real or fake), will surely learn about the “evil” Joe McCarthy – and it’s all a pack of slickly-packaged lies. The history of Joe McCarthy is a story that absolutely must be corrected not merely for the sake of academic scholarship, but more importantly, because the very same “conspiracy so immense” that ultimately destroyed McCarthy is still alive and well today – and more dangerous than ever.This is the true story of Senator Joseph McCarthy – “Saint” Joseph of Wisconsin. Hallowed be his unjustly dirtied name.

 

[Dr Grump]

Blah, blah, blah...

 

[bripat9643]

Blah, blah, blah...

Are you too fucking dumb to follow it?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Nobody gives a shit that they were hunting spies. Good for them. So they should have. What McCarthyism was, was a witch hunt. There were no checks and balances. The irony in this windbag, revisionist OP is that the things that McCarthy and all you other right-wing loons on this board are advocating is exactly how the Soviet Union was run. Guilty by association; throwing people to the dogs based on rumour and innuendo. And you whackadoodles are always accusing others of being anti-America yadda, yadda yadda when I'm hard pressed to find anything more unAmerican that the type of shit McCarthy got up to.

You notice, none of these people try too defend McCarthy's methods because if they did, they would be defending the methods used by the Communists and Nazis. Right wing fanatics are the first to defend the constitution and the first the violate it.

Which methods are you condemning? Making speeches? Questioning people in front of Congressional sub-committees? Holding hearings? Basically all the same stuff the left routinely does to people for the "unspeakable crime" of working for Donald Trump?

If you think that's comparable to the Communists and the Nazis, then you're as dumb as Alexandria Occasional Cortex, because you forgot the essential next step of sending people to camps to be tortured and die. THAT would be the part that sane people object to Communists and Nazis over.

Violation of rights, making accusations without evidence, pressuring employers not to hire those accused. Those were exactly the methods used by both the Nazis and the Communist.

None of which you have ever been able to specify to us, despite having been asked multiple times. I cannot imagine what has ever happened on this board to make you hopeful that you could just state something and have it be believed.

If he ever had any credibility his performance on this thread has destroyed it.

He never had any, so I wouldn't worry about it.