The Myth of Birthright Citizenship: A Constitutional and Historical Refutation

[ThisIsMe]

Speaking out is just that. It changes nothing.

It's up to the parent. The child remains a citizen either way.

I think the interpretation of it has moved. Originally it was about slavery. I guess we'll see what happens tomorrow. I think that's when scotus is hearing it.

 

[ThisIsMe]

When american citizen are sent to prison, they are separated from their family. But libs don't complain about that.

I could have sworn libs used to argue that you can't separate children, even for immigration, and you can't deport a citizen. They've changed their minds i guess.

 

[Zincwarrior]

If we follow the logic it means there are almost no US citizens including you MAGA whiteboys. Your parents were not sworn in as citizens.

 

[Etymology gaslight]

Supreme Court will hear this case on May 15! Millions of foreign invaders have been granted citizenship based on the lie that if you are born in america to an illegal alien mother, then you are a citizen!! Hopefully they will be deported too.

The Myth of Birthright Citizenship: A Constitutional and Historical Refutation

The American legal and political landscape has been distorted by the misunderstanding of birthright citizenship.

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Grandfather clause and define
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[Rogue AI]

If they are born here, they didn't "invade".

Children of bank robbers are not entitled to money their parents stole. Illegal alien children are no more entitled to the spoils of their parents' crimes against America.

 

[Care4all]

Children of bank robbers are not entitled to money their parents stole. Illegal alien children are no more entitled to the spoils of their parents' crimes against America.

What are the parent's spoils?

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

It will be interesting to see how the conservative textualists on SCOTUS deal with this Their thing is that the constitution must be interpreted based on a plain reading of the words , not intent. It seems like they will have to jump through a few hoops and engage in so linguistic gymnastic to get around the “plain language “ of the 14th Amendment

Speaking of plain language, please show us the words birthright citizenship in the 14th.

 

[Rogue AI]

What are the parent's spoils?

Stolen opportunities and services from the natives.

 

[Unkotare]

What are the parent's spoils?

That bologna you left out on the counter for five days.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Speaking of plain language, please show us the words birthright citizenship in the 14th.

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Please show us the words that say that immigration status of anyone is a factor to be considered while applying the plain language of the amendment.​

I can't wait to see how the textualists * on SCOTUS dance their way around this

Fourteenth Amendment​

Fourteenth Amendment Explained

Section 1​

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

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Several justices on the Supreme Court are considered textualists, meaning they interpret laws based on the literal meaning of the text, rather than focusing on legislative intent or historical context. Key figures include Chief Justice John Roberts, Justices Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, and Neil Gorsuch.

Elaboration:

• Textualism vs. Originalism:
  While closely related, textualism focuses on the text of a law, while originalism emphasizes the original meaning of the text at the time it was adopted.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

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Please show us the words that say that immigration status of anyone is a factor to be considered while applying the plain language of the amendment.​

I can't wait to see how the textualists * on SCOTUS dance their way around this

Fourteenth Amendment​

Fourteenth Amendment Explained

Section 1​

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

__________________________________________

Several justices on the Supreme Court are considered textualists, meaning they interpret laws based on the literal meaning of the text, rather than focusing on legislative intent or historical context. Key figures include Chief Justice John Roberts, Justices Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, and Neil Gorsuch.

Elaboration:

• Textualism vs. Originalism:
  While closely related, textualism focuses on the text of a law, while originalism emphasizes the original meaning of the text at the time it was adopted.

So that’s a solid no then. Thanks.

 

[Old Rocks]

Did you say something to actually counter it?

No.

Simple;

Amendment XIV​

Section 1.​

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

So that’s a solid no then. Thanks.

It's solid evidence that you xenophobes are desperate, frightened and grasping at straws

 

[Leo123]

If they are born here, they didn't "invade".

The mother invaded to have an anchor baby. Illegal ***** should have been sent back along with her illegal alien baby. You know, this wouldn't even be much of an issue if Biden and the Democrats didn't illegally let them in.....Hell they INVITED illegals. Now there are tens of millions here which makes it impossible to enforce our immigration laws which was the reason the Biden admin let them in. I believe Biden was so far gone he didn't even know what he was doing or saying. We need to find out who is responsible for this invasion and prosecute them.

 

[pknopp]

The mother invaded to have an anchor baby.

Again, there is no such thing. We are not here to enforce your fantasies.

All the same, you did nothing to address my point.

Illegal ***** should have been sent back along with her illegal alien baby. You know, this wouldn't even be much of an issue if Biden and the Democrats didn't illegally let them in.....Hell they INVITED illegals. Now there are tens of millions here which makes it impossible to enforce our immigration laws which was the reason the Biden admin let them in. I believe Biden was so far gone he didn't even know what he was doing or saying. We need to find out who is responsible for this invasion and prosecute them.

They have been very coming forever.

 

[Unkotare]

The mother invaded to have an anchor baby. ....

Go easy on the ridiculous semantics. Is every darn teenager who steps on your lawn an "invader" now? Don't bleed the meaning out of words the way democrats have done with "racist," "xenophobic" and the like.

 

[Unkotare]

... Illegal ... should have been sent back along with her illegal alien baby. ...

If the baby hadn't been born yet, it couldn't be an "illegal alien."

If the baby was born here, it couldn't be an "illegal alien."

Sorry your attack on a baby failed so badly.

 

[Leo123]

Again, there is no such thing. We are not here to enforce your fantasies.

All the same, you did nothing to address my point.




They have been very coming forever.

B.S. they didn't come in these numbers for this long until Biden dropped our border and let our wall materials rot. HS Secretary Mayorkas halted preexisting border security policies, increased parole for illegals, told illegals to use a phone app to enter the U.S. More than 10 million entered and who knows how many 'gotaways?'

 

[pknopp]

B.S. they didn't come in these numbers for this long until Biden dropped our border and let our wall materials rot.

But they still came. Before Biden there was still millions of illegals here.

HS Secretary Mayorkas halted preexisting border security policies, increased parole for illegals, told illegals to use a phone app to enter the U.S. More than 10 million entered and who knows how many 'gotaways?'

All true but does nothing to address anything I've said.

 

[Leo123]

Go easy on the ridiculous semantics. Is every darn teenager who steps on your lawn an "invader" now? Don't bleed the meaning out of words the way democrats have done with "racist," "xenophobic" and the like.

A teenager stepping on a lawn is itself 'bleeding the meaning,' IMO. That being said, there is no way we are going to be able to identify the millions let in over the past 4 years and, many women will have had babies here.

This 'anchor baby' policy was made when our border was not being invaded and the aim was to not punish the infant by deporting it and mom. During the past 4 years we had no way of even knowing who or even how many have come in illegally which made the anchor baby policy more of a negative than positive.