The Legality of forcing COVID injections

[Concerned American]

Well like coronavirus cousin the Zitka virus there's reason to behave in a prudent fashion. Viruses attempt to change our DNA. Vaccines allow our bodies to recognize the attempt and stop it.

But the long term damages and effects of COVID-19 are unknown yet...they might damage future offspring like Zitka virus does or do something else. We don't know yet. Eventually we will.

You armchair medical professionals love to spew your garbage. Your last two sentences say it all and still you try to promote an inoculation that you have no idea as to the long term effects. SMH.

 

[Concerned American]

I attended a funeral yesterday and my
friend’s family couldn’t attend because her adult daughter and son-in-law had contacted the virus (the daughter tested positive first but they think the husband had it first). Both had been fully vaccinated. Another family couldn’t come due to the same scenario- one person tested positive so household stayed away. Again, the person testing positive was said to have been vaxed. These outcomes are telling us something loud and clear. Unfortunately, not all will have open ears and eyes to these results.

Condolences.

 

[meaner gene]

If the vaccines worked, they would have been mandated already.

Vaccinations can't be mandated of the general population. The USSC did allow mandatory vaccinations (actually fines for refusing) done by local government.

 

[Colin norris]

Reasonable and prudent. According to who? There is no consensus on this vaccine. As for protecting yourself and others, vaxxed people can still contract and spread the virus which also undermines the probability of being sued for spreading.

Cut to the chase. You dont want it because Joe is advocating it. It always comes down to politics. You're pathetic.

 

[Brick Layer]

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The legality of the vaccine mandate will be assessed at what is called under ‘the major rules doctrine’ also known as ‘major questions doctrine’.

Under this doctrine the courts look to [1] whether the agency action is a major rule [yes] and (2) whether Congress has clearly authorized the agency action [no]. If Congress clearly authorized labor OSHA to mandate vaccines, then we would see in OSH Act of 1970, the language isn’t there [vide: OSH Act of 1970 | Occupational Safety and Health Administration]. …

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Federal Judge blocks New York state vaccine mandate for health care workers [morning of September 14th “the vaccine mandate is suspended” reads the order…] …

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IT'S YOU WHO ARE CHANGED
IF YOU TAKE A GENETIC EDITING
AND THE PROCESSES HAS A BIG IMPACT ON YOUR IDENTITY
"Herr Schwab, In 2015, Clearly Speaking About The Coming Gene-Altering
Changes To Human Beings - Of Course, He Knew The Entire Plan...
The Worldwide Tsunami Of Fear Caused By A Weaponized Cold Virus Called Covid
And The Renaming Of All Flu Cases, The Immediate Forced Use Of Fauci's Deadly
Remdesivir I.V. On Most All Hospitalized Patients To Guarantee 'Covid' Deaths, The
Mass Campaign Of Misidentifying Genuine Causes Of Death...And The Resulting
Global Public Outcry For 'Safety' As Promised With The (Killer BioWeapon) 'Vaccine'.
It Is A Satanic, Ingenious Trap...The Biggest Horror In Recorded Human History"

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According to the document, the implementers are desperate to vaccinate as many people as possible before the vaccine effects become apparent.
The stages they will follow include:
Phase 1: Vaccinate the easy people who can't wait to get the shot.
Phase 2: Offer incentives and rewards to convince those on the fence. (Free donuts, free beer, lottery tickets, etc.)
Phase 3: Punish those who refuse to get vaccinated by taking away their rights (no entry, no travel, etc.).
Phase 4: Criminalize vaccine resisters by passing mandatory vaccine laws. (due Nov 2021)
Phase 5: Gunpoint medicine: Launch door-to-door vaccine squads to forcibly vaccinate people at gunpoint, against their will. (Dec 2021 / Jan 2021)
We are right now in phase 3, moving toward phase 4.

Where We Are Now

Jeff & Erica Khan - The Incredible Forecasts Of Anthony Patch - How People Are Changed Instantly [forever] By The Kill Shot - Dr Charles Hoffe, Heroic Canadian Doctor

http://mediaarchives.gsradio.net/rense/special/rense_090121_hr3.mp3

Jeff & Erica Khan - Internet 'News' Sites Running Wild With Graphene Oxide Abetted By 'Borrowed' Research From La Quinta Columna - The Mass Mind Control Now Unleashed On Americans With 'Get The Shot' Thoughts

http://mediaarchives.gsradio.net/rense/special/rense_090121_hr2.mp3

 

[Brick Layer]

"The [swab] tests vaccinate you..."

DR. LORRAINE DAY EXPLAINS OUR REPORT ON TEST SWABS



CLAY CLARK-THE MEDICAL COVERUP IS BEING EXPOSED,CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS IS NOT JUST A CATCH-PHRASE




The New York hospital will be “unable to safely staff” its maternity department beginning Sept. 25, announced Lewis County Health System CEO Gerald Cayer. He added, "The number of resignations received leaves us no choice but to pause delivering babies at Lewis County General Hospital."

Hospital to stop delivering babies after 30 staffers quit over vaccine mandate

A hospital in upstate New York will stop delivering babies later this month after 30 staffers quit in protest of the facility’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate.Lewis County Health System CEO Ger…

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Pfizer to seek approval soon for COVID vaccine for 5 to 11 year olds

Pfizer to seek approval soon for COVID vaccine for 5 to 11 year olds

Children under the age of 12 are not eligible to get vaccinated against COVID-19 – but that may soon change. Top executives at Pfizer say the drugmaker is set to seek approval for its COVID-19 vaccine for kids aged 5 to 11.

www.fox17online.com

One In Five Americans Say Employer Requires Vaccination

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

COVID Whistleblower: Doctors about to QUIT, Pressured to Vax themselves, Pressured to LIE
A New York City ICU Nurse has courageously come forward to say that she and many other doctors are being pressured into unsafe vaccines and are ready to quit.

COVID Whistleblower: Doctors about to QUIT, Pressured to Vax themselves, Pressured to LIE | The Gateway Pundit | by Benjamin Wetmore

A New York City ICU Doctor has courageously come forward to say that she and many other doctors are being pressured into unsafe vaccines and are ready to quit.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

HUGE: Uttar Pradesh, India Announces State Is COVID-19 Free Proving the Effectiveness of “Deworming Drug” IVERMECTIN
vermectin/
The 33 districts in Uttar Pradesh, India have now become free from COVID-19 government informed on Friday. The recovery rate has increased up to 98.7% proving the effectiveness of IVERMECTIN as part of the “Uttar Pradesh Covid Control Model.”
This state has an estimated population of 241 million people in 2021 and has the highest population in India. This is almost two-thirds of the United States population in 2021 and yet it is now a COVID-19 free nation.
So what could the United States be doing wrong? Let’s ask Dr. Fauci.
Overall, the state has a total of 199 active cases, while the positivity rate came down to less than 0.01 per cent. The recovery rate, meanwhile, has improved to 98.7 per cent. As per the state’s health bulletin, Uttar Pradesh reported only 11 new Covid-19 cases and zero deaths in the last 24 hours.

HUGE: Uttar Pradesh, India Announces State Is COVID-19 Free Proving the Effectiveness of "Deworming Drug" IVERMECTIN | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hᴏft

The Gateway Pundit previously reportedthat COVID cases are plummeting in India thanks to new rules that promote Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine to its massive population.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[Brick Layer]

 

[Captain Caveman]

So who died from the vaccine.. Go on.. Spit it out! Source? Link to the autopsy report or official cause of death?

The ONS in the UK does not have any figures on this because they would require data linkage between vaccination records and mortality data, which there don't have.

There were figures flying around in the news of the number of people who died from receiving the vaccination, which equated to 8 people per day. But, they reckon these people died because they were old, and/or had previous conditions, and again there's no means to link to death records.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Most if your excuses done come into it like pregnancy. Its a myth.
What is an invasion of freedoms is others to walk around infecting people because for some stupid reason for not being vaccinated.

Being a former resident of Australia, tell me exactly what you think is happening there.

The whole purpose of the vaccine is to stimulate your immune system to make anti bodies to kill the virus. Each manufacturer claims a ninety odd percent success rate that if you were to contract covid, you would fight the virus off. A small percentage will still die, and you would have a high chance of not having to have hospital treatment.

Vaccinated people can and still do transmit the virus. It's claimed in the news that this is reduced by some 40 to 60 percent due to the vaccine, but I can't keep up with all the changing numbers and claims in the news.

But either way, vaccinated people can still spread covid, even not knowing they have the virus.

 

[Brick Layer]

Bombshell Lawsuit Claims Feds Are Covering Up At Least 45,000 Injection-Related Deaths

The evidence discovery process in federal court will be fiercely opposed by Big Pharma lawyers and all complicit government officials caught in the coverup. Expect massive backlash and censorship from Big Media and Big Tech quarters.

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17,503 DEAD, 1.7 Million Injured (50% SERIOUS) Reported in European Union’s Database of Adverse Drug Reactions for COVID-19 Shots

The European Union database of suspected drug reaction reports is EudraVigilance, which also tracks reports of injuries and deaths following the experimental COVID-19 “vaccines.” A Health Impact News subscriber from Europe reminded us that this database maintained at EudraVigilance is only for...

healthimpactnews.com

 

[wamose]

Maybe you aren't understanding the legal terms of reasonable and prudent...

If you get vaccinated you are acting in a reasonable and prudent fashion to protect yourself and those you come into contact with from catching Covid...

If you do not you are being extremely negligent and reckless with little regard for anyone you come into contact with...

Much like working tail/signal lights on an automobile...

Reasonable and prudent are two bullshit words that could mean totally different things to different people. They indicate you're dealing with opinions, not facts. Opinions aren't grounds for a lawsuit. Hypothetical - Who gets to sue when a vaccinated person infects another vaccinated person?

 

[JohnDB]

Reasonable and prudent are two bullshit words that could mean totally different things to different people. They indicate you're dealing with opinions, not facts. Opinions aren't grounds for a lawsuit. Hypothetical - Who gets to sue when a vaccinated person infects another vaccinated person?

Precident was set during the Aids epidemic... people who knew they were HIV positive engaging in sex with others was not only tortuous but actionable and criminal.

So today it's not even going to be difficult due to all the legal precident.

New study finds unvaccinated are 11 times more likely to die from Covid, CDC says

 

[Concerned American]

Precident was set during the Aids epidemic... people who knew they were HIV positive engaging in sex with others was not only tortuous but actionable and criminal.

So today it's not even going to be difficult due to all the legal precident.

New study finds unvaccinated are 11 times more likely to die from Covid, CDC says

This isn't HIV/AIDS. Here's your defeat in a nutshell, moron. Vaccinated people contract and spread the virus just like unvaccinated people. Your experimental jab just lessens the severity of the infection if we are to believe anything from Fauci or the CDC.

 

[JohnDB]

This isn't HIV/AIDS. Here's your defeat in a nutshell, moron. Vaccinated people contract and spread the virus just like unvaccinated people. Your experimental jab just lessens the severity of the infection if we are to believe anything from Fauci or the CDC.

No they don't...
Soon enough the trials will be done and I'm sure that protection against infection will be at around the 6 months mark while protection against disease will be ongoing. (And that is an educated guess by what ongoing data has been given to date...the final results are complicated and not faked like the data you are relying upon)

Do you know how to discern between faked research and real research?

But it's going to be another year before the study is completed.

 

[Concerned American]

No they don't...
Soon enough the trials will be done and I'm sure that protection against infection will be at around the 6 months mark while protection against disease will be ongoing. (And that is an educated guess by what ongoing data has been given to date...the final results are complicated and not faked like the data you are relying upon)

Do you know how to discern between faked research and real research?

But it's going to be another year before the study is completed.

Yeah they do...You like to believe the CDC, NPR?

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.

www.cdc.gov

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/effectiveness/why-measure-effectiveness

/breakthrough-cases.html

Vaccinated People With Breakthrough Infections Can Spread The Delta Variant, CDC Says

In an outbreak in Provincetown, Mass., three-quarters of cases occurred in fully vaccinated people. The study's findings suggest that vaccinated people infected with delta can transmit the virus.

www.npr.org

Study: Vaccinated people can carry as much virus as others

In another big setback for the nation’s efforts to stamp out the coronavirus, scientists who studied a big COVID-19 outbreak in Massachusetts concluded that vaccinated people who got so-called breakthrough infections carried about the same amount of the coronavirus as those who did not get the shots

apnews.com

Do you know how to discern between faked research and real research? Apparently not, you chose to follow the Fauci/CDC "science" and now you want to discredit it.
BTW, if it is going to be another year before the study is completed, why did you get injected with an experimental substance?
I assume you are a fair person and your apology is forthcoming.

 

[JohnDB]

Yeah they do...You like to believe the CDC, NPR?

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.

www.cdc.gov

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/effectiveness/why-measure-effectiveness

/breakthrough-cases.html

Vaccinated People With Breakthrough Infections Can Spread The Delta Variant, CDC Says

In an outbreak in Provincetown, Mass., three-quarters of cases occurred in fully vaccinated people. The study's findings suggest that vaccinated people infected with delta can transmit the virus.

www.npr.org

Study: Vaccinated people can carry as much virus as others

In another big setback for the nation’s efforts to stamp out the coronavirus, scientists who studied a big COVID-19 outbreak in Massachusetts concluded that vaccinated people who got so-called breakthrough infections carried about the same amount of the coronavirus as those who did not get the shots

apnews.com

Do you know how to discern between faked research and real research? Apparently not, you chose to follow the Fauci/CDC "science" and now you want to discredit it. I
BTW, if it is going to be another year before the study is completed, why did you get injected with and experimental substance?
I assume you are a fair person and your apology is forthcoming.

Fauci kept bending the truth when cornered... everyone groaned over it too.

The CDC's raw reports are not for the average person to read...there's been a huge misunderstanding over the raw reports that your Scientist Research community understand but average person doesn't. They have tried to fix some of that but the damage has been done because of a real lack of leadership by EVERYONE. (And people wonder why I hate politics)

The raw data and reports are clear...but only if you can really understand the special terms and grammar rules.

 

[Concerned American]

Fauci kept bending the truth when cornered... everyone groaned over it too.

The CDC's raw reports are not for the average person to read...there's been a huge misunderstanding over the raw reports that your Scientist Research community understand but average person doesn't. They have tried to fix some of that but the damage has been done because of a real lack of leadership by EVERYONE. (And people wonder why I hate politics)

The raw data and reports are clear...but only if you can really understand the special terms and grammar rules.

Nice back pedal, LMAO. But hardly an apology. My suspicions were confirmed.

 

[Esdraelon]

Covid 19 and its variants, is very deadly.

To about 1 person in every 100 who contract it. I just saw a poll that indicated that as a group, Democrats believed a person had a 50/50 chance of being hospitalized if they were infected with Covid. That's how well the brainwashing has been done by your media. It's actually an indicator of how pathetically sheep-like the Left is today...

 

[Esdraelon]

There is a supreme court precedent for it. It's perfectly legal.

When the Supreme Court Ruled a Vaccine Could Be Mandatory | HISTORY

A 1905 Supreme Court ruling backing a city-issued fine for refusing the smallpox vaccination provided a powerful and controversial precedent for the flexing of government authority.

www.history.com

An den? An what? I noticed your illegitimate regime just ignored a SCOTUS ruling on eviction bans. If he can, so can WE.

 

[SweetSue92]

For such a hot topic and "either/or" issue in this country.......I have yet to see any legal information about any of this, concerning the personal rights and freedoms of citizens in this country.

Issues - for example:

*The government forcing/harassing people to take this drug.
*What if a person is naturally immune to COVID, or it only affects them as a head cold would and nothing more serious?
*Allergic reactions to this "vaccine"........migraines, heart conditions, Bells Palsy, miscarriages, death.....
*The FACTUAL reality of this drug being "approved" years before all proper testing has been accomplished.
*Companies FORCING people to get this "vaccine" or get fired/never hired.
*Businesses FORCING people to show their PRIVATE health information in order to custom that establishment?
*The happenings in Australia, New Zealand, and Britain.

Just a few aspects of legal positions I would like to see brought up by the legal professions that are on the side of the citizens rights.

I would really like to know the stances and legality of all this crap going on with COVID. What do lawyers who protect citizens rights have to say about all of this??

Forced vaccinations are bound to lose in court--especially for THESE vaccines. They are not "sterilizing", but more like flu vaccines. They are dangerous. The FDA came down on boosters this week. Etc, etc, etc.

Looking bad for the "safe and effective" crowd