The Key To Harmony

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Is it in the Bible....or in the other 'bible'???


1.Searching for that level of agreement in society, alas, appears elusive. But the aim is to live in harmony.
“If people are living in harmony with each other, they are living together peacefully rather than fighting or arguing. We must try to live in peace and harmony with ourselves and those around us.
Harmony definition and meaning | Collins English Dictionary



2. Here’s the problem: Not all see the same path nor meaning of the term:

Karl Marx himself has stated that “The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism,” a sentiment that corresponds almost exactly to the Islamic idea that “peace” means the absence of opposition to Islamic rule. Cultural Marxism — aka Political Correctness — and Islam share the same totalitarian outlook and instinctively agree in their opposition to free discussion, and in the idea that freedom of speech must be curtailed when it is “offensive” to certain groups.”



3. Sooo….where can we find a more copacetic view of peace and harmony for our culture?
That is found in the Bible, the book of the Judeo-Christian faith. But, over the last century and a half, a very different ‘bible’ and ‘religion’ has come into existence….and demands itself as the replacement of the earlier faith.
Marx provides the sort of modern, secular substitute for what the Bible offers. Militant Secularism is a substitute religion for the world, based on all sorts of opposite doctrines compared to the Judeo-Christian version. And the Democrat Party reflects those contrary ideas to that which made our civilization the shining city on the hill.

The clearest judgement between the two religions is the track record of each. The Judeo-Christian version gave us Western Civilization, Marxism and its iterations gave us the slaughter of well over 100 million men, women and children in the century of slaughter, the 20th.




4. The first worships God, while the second provides a substitute, worship of a very different entity: “It [Communism] is not new. It is, in fact, man's second oldest faith. Its promise was whispered in the first days of the Creation under the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil: "Ye shall be as gods." It is the great alternative faith of mankind. Like all great faiths, its force derives from a simple vision. Other ages have had great visions. They have always been different versions of the same vision: the vision of God and man's relationship to God. The Communist vision is the vision of Man without God.
It is the vision of man's mind displacing God as the creative intelligence of the world.”
Whittaker Chambers, Witness

Under the religion of Militant Secularism, members insist that they themselves are the arbiters of good and evil. Have no doubt: every Democrat voter is a disciple of this bizarre religion.

"Classical liberalism, the optimistic doctrine that gave us liberty, democracy, progress, was a moral project. It held that human society could always better itself by encouraging the good and diminishing the bad. It rested, therefore, on a very clear understanding that there was a higher cause than self-realization: that there were such things as right and wrong and that the former should be preferred over the latter.

But the belief that autonomous individuals had the right to make subjective judgment about what was right for them in pursuit of their unchallengeable entitlement to happiness destroyed that understanding. Progressives interpreted liberty as license, thus destroying the moral rules that make freedom a virtue."
Melanie Phillips



" When morality became privatized, the questions “what is right” became “what is right for me.” Feelings... became the arbiters of behavior. Rather than traditional taboos, only religiously based moral judgment was deemed taboo. The harm caused to abandoned spouses or children by adultery or desertion- harm that can be objectively documented in rates of ill health, depression, educational underachievement, criminal behavior- was all but ignored, while damage done to people’s feelings by condemnation of their adultery or desertion was considered unforgiveable."
"The World Turned Upside Down," Melanie Phillips, chapter 14


Yet the careful and assiduous manipulation of the sources of dissemination of knowledge has allowed the religion of death to surpass the religion of life.
 
1. the bible is just bullshit fairytales
2. most of the population is not christian
 
We hold these truths to be self evident, all men are created equal and have certain unalienable rights, endowed by their Creator, among these are, the right to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness- there are no caveats in my bible, no rituals or tithes to be paid, no hymns sang, no prayers required, no official anything- just respect.
Respect given earns self respect- one can't exist without the other. Simple.
 
We hold these truths to be self evident, all men are created equal and have certain unalienable rights, endowed by their Creator, among these are, the right to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness- there are no caveats in my bible, no rituals or tithes to be paid, no hymns sang, no prayers required, no official anything- just respect.
Respect given earns self respect- one can't exist without the other. Simple.


Did you miss the parts about not killing other human beings?

It's a pretty significant requirement in the Judeo-Christian version of a religion.

Not so much in the Militant Secular version.
 
We hold these truths to be self evident, all men are created equal and have certain unalienable rights, endowed by their Creator, among these are, the right to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness- there are no caveats in my bible, no rituals or tithes to be paid, no hymns sang, no prayers required, no official anything- just respect.
Respect given earns self respect- one can't exist without the other. Simple.


Did you miss the parts about not killing other human beings?

It's a pretty significant requirement in the Judeo-Christian version of a religion.

Not so much in the Militant Secular version.
what are you saying?? christians don't murder?
 
5. Under the religion of Militant Secularism, members insist that they themselves are the arbiters of good and evil. Have no doubt: every Democrat voter is a disciple of this bizarre religion.


Compare that to Sartre, ‘existence precedes essence,’ meaning that “I” come first, I am more important than anything else. Or Nietzsche, will to power…..these are the beliefs of every teenager, every millennial, every Democrat voter: I and only I, decide what is right and what is wrong. And my view of same changes as my emotions change.

We could call this the real original sin, arrogating to oneself the prerogative of deciding what is good and what is evil. That was long ago decided and the written laws and rules found in the Bible are codifications of the unwritten ones worked out over millennia as the result of human interactions and experience.

“It is from the precepts of the Bible that the legal systems of the West have been developed-
systems, worked out over millennia, for dealing with inequality, with injustice, with greed, reducible t that which Christians call the Golden Rule, and the Jews had propounded as “That which is hateful to you, don not do to your neighbor.” David Mamet




That view is put this way in Proverbs : Fear of the LORD is the foundation of wisdom. Knowledge of the God results in good judgment. Proverbs 9:10
 
Harmony only comes if we see ourselves as all being simply human instead of breaking ourselves into tribes. Identity politics is the very antithesis of harmony as it emphathizes tribal differences and the inevitable dehumanization that results from tribal thinking.
 
Harmony only comes if we see ourselves as all being simply human instead of breaking ourselves into tribes. Identity politics is the very antithesis of harmony as it emphathizes tribal differences and the inevitable dehumanization that results from tribal thinking.


Excellent point!

Yet they do conquer through division.
 
6. The book of Genesis as an guidebook for our civilization.
Creation…The Fall ….The effects of the fall (Cain and Abel, The Tower of Babel, Noah, ….the start of the Rescue (from ch 12: God calls Abram….followed by Isaac, Jacob then then Joseph)





As astounding as it is, one of the most interesting validations of the Bible, is how accurately the order of events of creation occur in a three millennial old book written by people who lived in a desert. And it’s not me saying it is accurate….it is modern science that so concludes the very same order of events.



And the mode of creation is unique.
The very first words are the mode for harmony: “And God said let there be light….”

The creation is through words, through speech… not great explosions such as Hollywood might depict. The message there is about using one’s mind, through intelligence rather than muscle. This is an idea that we can follow throughout Western Civilization, most especially throughout science, our greatest gift: our intellect. Mankind, in fact is gifted with intelligence, and, with free will. We are meant to question…to even confront God with questions and disagreement. (As took place in Sodom, where God was reminded not to kill the innocent inhabitants.)



In many ancient versions of religion, creation is caused by some sort of violence, some war or battle between gods, and often the very bodies of the deposed gods make up the world. Not in the Bible: God simply makes the heavens and the earth, in other words, everything, simply by an act of speech.


Now….the denominations of the religion of Militant Secularism…. communism (gulags), Nazism (concentration camps), Liberalism (abortion), Progressivism (eugenics), socialism (theft), Fascism (murder)….

Harmony…..or violence and slaughter?
 
Is it in the Bible....or in the other 'bible'???


1.Searching for that level of agreement in society, alas, appears elusive. But the aim is to live in harmony.
“If people are living in harmony with each other, they are living together peacefully rather than fighting or arguing. We must try to live in peace and harmony with ourselves and those around us.
Harmony definition and meaning | Collins English Dictionary



2. Here’s the problem: Not all see the same path nor meaning of the term:

Karl Marx himself has stated that “The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism,” a sentiment that corresponds almost exactly to the Islamic idea that “peace” means the absence of opposition to Islamic rule. Cultural Marxism — aka Political Correctness — and Islam share the same totalitarian outlook and instinctively agree in their opposition to free discussion, and in the idea that freedom of speech must be curtailed when it is “offensive” to certain groups.”



3. Sooo….where can we find a more copacetic view of peace and harmony for our culture?
That is found in the Bible, the book of the Judeo-Christian faith. But, over the last century and a half, a very different ‘bible’ and ‘religion’ has come into existence….and demands itself as the replacement of the earlier faith.
Marx provides the sort of modern, secular substitute for what the Bible offers. Militant Secularism is a substitute religion for the world, based on all sorts of opposite doctrines compared to the Judeo-Christian version. And the Democrat Party reflects those contrary ideas to that which made our civilization the shining city on the hill.

The clearest judgement between the two religions is the track record of each. The Judeo-Christian version gave us Western Civilization, Marxism and its iterations gave us the slaughter of well over 100 million men, women and children in the century of slaughter, the 20th.




4. The first worships God, while the second provides a substitute, worship of a very different entity: “It [Communism] is not new. It is, in fact, man's second oldest faith. Its promise was whispered in the first days of the Creation under the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil: "Ye shall be as gods." It is the great alternative faith of mankind. Like all great faiths, its force derives from a simple vision. Other ages have had great visions. They have always been different versions of the same vision: the vision of God and man's relationship to God. The Communist vision is the vision of Man without God.
It is the vision of man's mind displacing God as the creative intelligence of the world.”
Whittaker Chambers, Witness

Under the religion of Militant Secularism, members insist that they themselves are the arbiters of good and evil. Have no doubt: every Democrat voter is a disciple of this bizarre religion.

"Classical liberalism, the optimistic doctrine that gave us liberty, democracy, progress, was a moral project. It held that human society could always better itself by encouraging the good and diminishing the bad. It rested, therefore, on a very clear understanding that there was a higher cause than self-realization: that there were such things as right and wrong and that the former should be preferred over the latter.

But the belief that autonomous individuals had the right to make subjective judgment about what was right for them in pursuit of their unchallengeable entitlement to happiness destroyed that understanding. Progressives interpreted liberty as license, thus destroying the moral rules that make freedom a virtue."
Melanie Phillips



" When morality became privatized, the questions “what is right” became “what is right for me.” Feelings... became the arbiters of behavior. Rather than traditional taboos, only religiously based moral judgment was deemed taboo. The harm caused to abandoned spouses or children by adultery or desertion- harm that can be objectively documented in rates of ill health, depression, educational underachievement, criminal behavior- was all but ignored, while damage done to people’s feelings by condemnation of their adultery or desertion was considered unforgiveable."
"The World Turned Upside Down," Melanie Phillips, chapter 14 a


Yet the careful and assiduous manipulation of the sources of dissemination of knowledge has allowed the religion of death to surpass the religion of life.
If God made this world, harmony was not on the agenda. Life is a struggle to survive and there has never been a society that has been able to live in harmony. Certainly Christianity is no different. How many wars have been started by Christians? How many of those wars have been against other Christians?

Taking non-Christians to task for their questionable morality is fine, but don't judge them differently than Christians. Judge what Marxists say against what Christians say and judge what Marxists do against what Christians do. And don't cherry pick a time, look at their entire history. You might discover that we are all human.
 
Is it in the Bible....or in the other 'bible'???


1.Searching for that level of agreement in society, alas, appears elusive. But the aim is to live in harmony.
“If people are living in harmony with each other, they are living together peacefully rather than fighting or arguing. We must try to live in peace and harmony with ourselves and those around us.
Harmony definition and meaning | Collins English Dictionary



2. Here’s the problem: Not all see the same path nor meaning of the term:

Karl Marx himself has stated that “The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism,” a sentiment that corresponds almost exactly to the Islamic idea that “peace” means the absence of opposition to Islamic rule. Cultural Marxism — aka Political Correctness — and Islam share the same totalitarian outlook and instinctively agree in their opposition to free discussion, and in the idea that freedom of speech must be curtailed when it is “offensive” to certain groups.”



3. Sooo….where can we find a more copacetic view of peace and harmony for our culture?
That is found in the Bible, the book of the Judeo-Christian faith. But, over the last century and a half, a very different ‘bible’ and ‘religion’ has come into existence….and demands itself as the replacement of the earlier faith.
Marx provides the sort of modern, secular substitute for what the Bible offers. Militant Secularism is a substitute religion for the world, based on all sorts of opposite doctrines compared to the Judeo-Christian version. And the Democrat Party reflects those contrary ideas to that which made our civilization the shining city on the hill.

The clearest judgement between the two religions is the track record of each. The Judeo-Christian version gave us Western Civilization, Marxism and its iterations gave us the slaughter of well over 100 million men, women and children in the century of slaughter, the 20th.




4. The first worships God, while the second provides a substitute, worship of a very different entity: “It [Communism] is not new. It is, in fact, man's second oldest faith. Its promise was whispered in the first days of the Creation under the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil: "Ye shall be as gods." It is the great alternative faith of mankind. Like all great faiths, its force derives from a simple vision. Other ages have had great visions. They have always been different versions of the same vision: the vision of God and man's relationship to God. The Communist vision is the vision of Man without God.
It is the vision of man's mind displacing God as the creative intelligence of the world.”
Whittaker Chambers, Witness

Under the religion of Militant Secularism, members insist that they themselves are the arbiters of good and evil. Have no doubt: every Democrat voter is a disciple of this bizarre religion.

"Classical liberalism, the optimistic doctrine that gave us liberty, democracy, progress, was a moral project. It held that human society could always better itself by encouraging the good and diminishing the bad. It rested, therefore, on a very clear understanding that there was a higher cause than self-realization: that there were such things as right and wrong and that the former should be preferred over the latter.

But the belief that autonomous individuals had the right to make subjective judgment about what was right for them in pursuit of their unchallengeable entitlement to happiness destroyed that understanding. Progressives interpreted liberty as license, thus destroying the moral rules that make freedom a virtue."
Melanie Phillips



" When morality became privatized, the questions “what is right” became “what is right for me.” Feelings... became the arbiters of behavior. Rather than traditional taboos, only religiously based moral judgment was deemed taboo. The harm caused to abandoned spouses or children by adultery or desertion- harm that can be objectively documented in rates of ill health, depression, educational underachievement, criminal behavior- was all but ignored, while damage done to people’s feelings by condemnation of their adultery or desertion was considered unforgiveable."
"The World Turned Upside Down," Melanie Phillips, chapter 14 a


Yet the careful and assiduous manipulation of the sources of dissemination of knowledge has allowed the religion of death to surpass the religion of life.
If God made this world, harmony was not on the agenda. Life is a struggle to survive and there has never been a society that has been able to live in harmony. Certainly Christianity is no different. How many wars have been started by Christians? How many of those wars have been against other Christians?

Taking non-Christians to task for their questionable morality is fine, but don't judge them differently than Christians. Judge what Marxists say against what Christians say and judge what Marxists do against what Christians do. And don't cherry pick a time, look at their entire history. You might discover that we are all human.


"Certainly Christianity is no different. How many wars have been started by Christians? How many of those wars have been against other Christians? "


Not even a fraction as many as those begun by you secularists.


The clearest judgement between the two religions is the track record of each. The Judeo-Christian version gave us Western Civilization, Marxism and its iterations gave us the slaughter of well over 100 million men, women and children in the century of slaughter, the 20th.


"Over the past 100 years the most oppressive ideology in the world has been communism [Marxism]. While the people who lived under it were starved, tortured and murdered, its leaders lived in luxury.
The suppression of ordinary people by their communist rulers far surpasses anything capitalist employers were ever accused of doing. While condemning exploitation, communist dictators turned out to be masters at it.

a. R.J. Rummel estimates that almost 170 million people were killed in the 20th century by their own governments. These are not deaths in war. They are the victims of genocide by the governments in the countries where they lived. Hate on the Left


Some people blame organized religion for most of history's killings. It is also sometimes claimed that more people have been killed in the name of Christ than for any other reason.

The total number of deaths estimated to lie at the feet of humanity's poor practice of Christianity is approximately 17 million. This number would include ancient wars, the Crusades, the Inquisitions, various European wars during the Middle Ages, and witchcraft trials.
 
7. In the Bible the mode of creation is unique.
The very first words are the mode for harmony: “And God said let there be light….”

The creation is through words, through speech…therein a message to choose mediation over massacre.

Militant Secularism, synonymous with the Democrat Party, demanding the very opposite….no thinking, no questioning allowed. Just follow orders.

An example of how deeply the religion of Militant Secularism has taken hold, is the common phrase, especially on campus, is the bizarre phrase “Silence Is Violence!”



"Jonathan Turley senses what is gong on: “How 'silence is violence' threatens true free speech and public civility
… it can at the same time have a much more menacing meaning to “prove the negative” by demanding that people show that they are not racist.

In a previous column, I warned of the thin line between speech codes and commands, as people shift from compelling silence to compelling words. “Once all the offending statues are down, and all the offending professors are culled, the appetite for collective suppression will become a demand for collective expression.” Such a line between punishing and compelling speech is easily crossed if free speech itself is viewed as a threat.”
 
"Certainly Christianity is no different. How many wars have been started by Christians? How many of those wars have been against other Christians? "

Not even a fraction as many as those begun by you secularists.
1/10 and 10/1 are both fractions so your statement is ambiguous. If you meant that more wars have been started by secularists than by Christians I'd respond as you have before: link or lie?
 
7. In the Bible the mode of creation is unique.
The very first words are the mode for harmony: “And God said let there be light….”

The creation is through words, through speech…therein a message to choose mediation over massacre.

Militant Secularism, synonymous with the Democrat Party, demanding the very opposite….no thinking, no questioning allowed. Just follow orders.

An example of how deeply the religion of Militant Secularism has taken hold, is the common phrase, especially on campus, is the bizarre phrase “Silence Is Violence!”



"Jonathan Turley senses what is gong on: “How 'silence is violence' threatens true free speech and public civility
… it can at the same time have a much more menacing meaning to “prove the negative” by demanding that people show that they are not racist.

In a previous column, I warned of the thin line between speech codes and commands, as people shift from compelling silence to compelling words. “Once all the offending statues are down, and all the offending professors are culled, the appetite for collective suppression will become a demand for collective expression.” Such a line between punishing and compelling speech is easily crossed if free speech itself is viewed as a threat.”
Or, it may echo the quote:
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” ― Edmund Burke
 
Now….the denominations of the religion of Militant Secularism…. communism (gulags), Nazism (concentration camps), Liberalism (abortion), Progressivism (eugenics), socialism (theft), Fascism (murder)….

Harmony…..or violence and slaughter?
Now the real-world effects of the denominations of the religion of Christianity... slavery, colonialism, sexism, intolerance, economic exploitation, anti-semitism, and, of course, the destruction of other religions.
 
"Certainly Christianity is no different. How many wars have been started by Christians? How many of those wars have been against other Christians? "

Not even a fraction as many as those begun by you secularists.
1/10 and 10/1 are both fractions so your statement is ambiguous. If you meant that more wars have been started by secularists than by Christians I'd respond as you have before: link or lie?

So your sort annihilated only ten times more human beings than religious folks....that's what you are proud of?


Let's include this:

TOTAL ABORTIONS SINCE 1973:
59,115,995


Based on numbers reported by the Guttmacher Institute 1973-2014, with projections of 926,190 for 2015-16. GI estimates a possible 3 percent under reporting rate, which is factored into the overall total. [1/17]​



Still proud?
 
"Certainly Christianity is no different. How many wars have been started by Christians? How many of those wars have been against other Christians? "

Not even a fraction as many as those begun by you secularists.
1/10 and 10/1 are both fractions so your statement is ambiguous. If you meant that more wars have been started by secularists than by Christians I'd respond as you have before: link or lie?


"If you meant that more wars have been started by secularists than by Christians I'd respond as you have before: link or lie?"

I never lie.....you know that.



First World War (1914–18): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15 million

Russian Civil War (1917–22): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 million

Soviet Union, Stalin’s regime (1924–53): . . . . . . . . . 20 million

Second World War (1937–45): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55 million

Chinese Civil War (1945–49): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.5 million

People’s Republic of China, Mao Zedong’s

regime (1949–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40 million

Tibet (1950 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 600,000

Congo Free State (1886–1908): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 million

Mexico (1910–20): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million

Turkish massacres of Armenians (1915–23): . . . . . 1.5 million

China (1917–28): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 800,000

China, Nationalist era (1928–37): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.1 million

Korean War (1950–53): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.8 million

North Korea (1948 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 million

Rwanda and Burundi (1959–95): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.35 million

Second Indochina War (1960–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.5 million

Ethiopia (1962–92): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000

Nigeria (1966–70): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million

Bangladesh (1971): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.25 million

Cambodia, Khmer Rouge (1975–78): . . . . . . . . . . . 1.65 million

Mozambique (1975–92): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million

Afghanistan (1979–2001): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.8 million

Iran–Iraq War (1980–88): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million

Sudan (1983 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.9 million

Kinshasa, Congo (1998 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.8 million

Philippines Insurgency (1899–1902): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 220,000

Brazil (1900 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000

Amazonia (1900–1912): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 250,000

Portuguese colonies (1900–1925): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 325,000

French colonies (1900–1940): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000

Japanese War (1904–5): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 130,000

German East Africa (1905–7): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 175,000

Libya (1911–31): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 125,000

Balkan Wars (1912–13): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 140,000

Greco–Turkish War (1919–22): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 250,000

Spanish Civil War (1936–39): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 365,000

Franco Regime (1939–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100,000

Abyssinian Conquest (1935–41): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000

Finnish War (1939–40): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000

Greek Civil War (1943–49): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 158,000

Yugoslavia, Tito’s regime (1944–80): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000

First Indochina War (1945–54): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000

Colombia (1946–58): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000

India (1947): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000

Romania (1948–89): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000

Burma/Myanmar (1948 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 130,000

Algeria (1954–62): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 537,000

Sudan (1955–72): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000

Guatemala (1960–96): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000

Indonesia (1965–66): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000

Uganda, Idi Amin’s regime (1972–79): . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000

Vietnam, postwar Communist regime

(1975 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 430,000

Angola (1975–2002): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 550,000

East Timor, conquest by Indonesia (1975–99): . . . . . 200,000

Lebanon (1975–90): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000

Cambodian Civil War (1978–91): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 225,000

Iraq, Saddam Hussein (1979–2003): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000

Uganda (1979–86): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000

Kurdistan (1980s, 1990s): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000

Liberia (1989–97): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000

Iraq (1990– ): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 350,000

Bosnia and Herzegovina (1992–95): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 175,000

Somalia (1991 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000



In 2007, a number of scientists gathered in a conference entitled “Beyond Belief: Science, Religion, Reason, and Survival”

in order to attack religious thought and congratulate one an -

other on their fearlessness in so doing. The physicist Steven

Weinberg delivered an address. As one of the authors of the

theory of electroweak unification, the work for which he was

awarded a Nobel Prize, he is a figure of great stature. “Religion,” he affirmed, “is an insult to human dignity. With or

without it you would have good people doing good things and

evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things,

that takes religion” (italics added).

In speaking thus, Weinberg was warmly applauded, not

one member of his audience asking the question one might

have thought pertinent: Just who has imposed on the suffering

human race poison gas, barbed wire, high explosives, experiments in eugenics, the formula for Zyklon B, heavy artillery,

pseudo-scientific justifications for mass murder, cluster bombs,

attack submarines, napalm, inter continental ballistic missiles,

military space platforms, and nuclear weapons?



OK?
 
"Certainly Christianity is no different. How many wars have been started by Christians? How many of those wars have been against other Christians? "

Not even a fraction as many as those begun by you secularists.
1/10 and 10/1 are both fractions so your statement is ambiguous. If you meant that more wars have been started by secularists than by Christians I'd respond as you have before: link or lie?

So your sort annihilated only ten times more human beings than religious folks....that's what you are proud of?


Let's include this:

TOTAL ABORTIONS SINCE 1973:
59,115,995


Based on numbers reported by the Guttmacher Institute 1973-2014, with projections of 926,190 for 2015-16. GI estimates a possible 3 percent under reporting rate, which is factored into the overall total. [1/17]​



Still proud?
Still waiting for an answer instead of a tangent. Will your next post be an ad hominem as is your pattern?
 

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