The John Kennedy assassination ..who's who on the Grassy Knoll

[7forever]

Remember that these guys were superior marksmen and the Continental had a low front seat--why risk detection by bystanders when you don't have to? This looks like a very plausible trajectory, especially if you're improvising and don't want to be seen:

You're gonna be left out when it comes out in a bigger way and I will use you as an example of bullshit disinfo. You have a fake hand below the seat.:no: Your disinfo is more important than the grassy snow job because it goes directly to how clever the alteration was but looking closer it's very obvious.

Even without nix and muchmore there is no evidence his left hand ever returned to the wheel. Any opposition would have to concede that his left hand only might have returned to the wheel which leads to the work I did with Harris's clip showing no hand or arm. A decent prosecutor could have convicted Greer with just Zapruder. Greer's arm crossing in nix is the smoking gun and cannot be challenged, just ignored. And then there's muchmore showing the same thing but a little different.

NO HAND OR ARM...IT'S FAKE. Independently of nix it's proven fake by pointing out that's it's some grey thing added to the film. You have to prove it's a real hand which you cannot. There's no arm.LOL You can't have a hand without an arm.

I was able to capture the two dots in between frames 303-304. A two dot hand. IT'S RETARDED.

 

[Obamerican]

Remember that these guys were superior marksmen and the Continental had a low front seat--why risk detection by bystanders when you don't have to? This looks like a very plausible trajectory, especially if you're improvising and don't want to be seen:

You're gonna be left out when it comes out in a bigger way and I will use you as an example of bullshit disinfo. You have a fake hand below the seat.:no: Your disinfo is more important than the grassy snow job because it goes directly to how clever the alteration was but looking closer it's very obvious.

Even without nix and muchmore there is no evidence his left hand ever returned to the wheel. Any opposition would have to concede that his left hand only might have returned to the wheel which leads to the work I did with Harris's clip showing no hand or arm. A decent prosecutor could have convicted Greer with just Zapruder. Greer's arm crossing in nix is the smoking gun and cannot be challenged, just ignored. And then there's muchmore showing the same thing but a little different.

NO HAND OR ARM...IT'S FAKE. Independently of nix it's proven fake by pointing out that's it's some grey thing added to the film. You have to prove it's a real hand which you cannot. There's no arm.LOL You can't have a hand without an arm.

I was able to capture the two dots in between frames 303-304. A two dot hand. IT'S RETARDED.

I'm sick of your C&P from your stupid website. You're a waste of oxygen and was obviously born at the shallow end of the gene pool.

 

[7forever]

Are you REALLY saying that the government went to the trouble of adding a second hand to the film that showed Greer's hand off the steering wheel? Why would they do that instead of making it appear as though it was on the steering wheel where it belonged?

Your point is moot for several reasons; Here are two. Both of Greer's hands were off the wheel 3.5 seconds before the fake hand appears to come off the wheel. During those seconds he placed the gun in his left hand and never placed it back on the wheel which is proven by his left arm crossing his right shoulder in the nix film. You simply ignore the pink elephant in the room and continue on with your nonsense.
I started this around frame 238 or so. 241 is where both hands are close together before he passes the gun.

Zapruder Frames - Costella Combined Edit

Cover-ups rarely make sense and that's why they are so easily exposed as such. The fake hand was created as a reason to say Greer could NOT have shot jfk because his hand was below the seat. The truth is coming out and going forward. Millions of people in this world are going to see exactly who shot jfk and exactly how he did it. You're using the fake evidence that proves Greer could not have done it and promoting that impossible shot as how he did it.

 

[Rationalist1016]

7forever,

So, the hand is fake, because Greer knew there would be a camera videotaping him from an angle that would see it?
"They" edited the Z film to cover up the gun, but did such a piss-pour job that YOU could still see it? Yet "they" inserted a fake hand and did such a good job that we can see the hand move with his arm?
And the "flap" on the right side of JFK's head is faked to look like a shot from the rear? Because a "flap" = rear head shot? The flap by itself does not prove direction of the bullet. The direction is shown by the explosion out the right front. The flap COULD HAVE resulted from a front shot............it didn't in this case, but it could.
So, all your "fake" video evidence doesn't help your claim.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I wish the truth would clearly come out about this story too. People are always coming up with a new scenario.
Two things- my opinion, and my opinion only. I do not think Oswald acted alone. There were definitely 2 shots fired, and I don't think if Oswald fired, his was the killing shot.
Second, why the hell would the driver want to shoot JFK??
If that were the case, wouldn't everyone else in the car be aware, including the passenger??

well only the people living in denial and afraid still think oswald killed kennedy. and to answer your second question,the first part is a reasonable question on why would the driver kill kennedy,thats because Greer had connections to the CIA which of course had a major hand in the assassination.some researchers discovered that through files from the freedom of information act.as for the second part? you cant be that dense?

Mrs Kennedy was obviously afraid to speak out the truth even though she did go as far as saying when asked at the hospital if she wanted to remove her blood stained coat saying-No I want the world to see what THEY did to my husband.she obviously knew it was a conspiracy. and like agent Kellerman is REALLY going to rat on his buddy when he is involved as well. and like Mrs Connolly whom her and husband both hated The Kennedys are really going to tell the truth either.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

you have been sniffing glue ALL day long, you brain dead flyfucker.

President Kennedy was killed when he was shot in the head from behind.

YOU ALWAYS IGNORE the facts and evidence which is this:
NOT ONE SHRED of evidence supports your claim. Not even a tad of evidence suggests the fatal shot came from behind. Real conspiracy theorists laugh at your embarrassing claims because it makes them look good.

The evidence proves you wrong no matter how CLOSELY you examine and want these silly reports to be true they will always be lies and easily proven so, by accepting that reality destroys them.
Nothing about the film or the explosion of his skull or the ejection of debris from his skull supports the lie that Oswald fired the fatal shot.

On the other hand many REAL phds ( as opposed to your fictitious claim ) have proven that claiming authority on a subject when they are telling lies proves only that they are lying and using degrees to cover-up the truth which is that JFK was shot from the front twice in less than 5 seconds by two different shooters. The entrance wound to his head was in the right front and exited the right rear...you know this but continue to post lies from debunked government reports because you are crazy and obsessed.

thats what disinfo agent LIAR ability ALWAYS does in his debates in ANY discussion about government corruption is ignore the facts and evidence. He never gets tired of exposing what an idiot troll he is.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

You truly lack comprehension of logic.

It's on you to defend against what I've put up and you did nothing except deny everything that disagrees with your delsusions.

I proved in numerous ways the film was altered and showed Greer's movements that are completely consistent with him shooting jfk and you only said it wasn't true because you don't want it to be true. You are silly.

Try learning something about science you little troll. You cannot disprove facts only deny them.

You cannot prove they are authentic because they were faked to hide Greer as jkf's real assassin and you know that.

There is a gun in the film.

You are a persistent idiot troll of epic proportions. Congrats...

You are a fool who denys what you don't want to be true but knows is true. YOU ARE A SIMPLE IDIOT WITH AN OBSESSION THAT'S NOT EVEN WORTH THE TIME YOU SPEND ON IT.

Again, I will point out that YOU WILL NOT address any of the points made by others. For example, mine. That all the ballistic evidence pointed to Oswalds gun and ammunition. You claim that there is no evidence that supports him firing. Can you address this? And please be more intelligent than "IT'S FAKE"!!

No viewable/photographic source exists showing Oswald brandishing/holding or firing a weapon on that day. But Greer passes the gun and his left arm crosses in the two obscure films.

He is afraid of the truth so he wont look at the nix film where you can see that happen.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

You truly lack comprehension of logic.

It's on you to defend against what I've put up and you did nothing except deny everything that disagrees with your delsusions.

I proved in numerous ways the film was altered and showed Greer's movements that are completely consistent with him shooting jfk and you only said it wasn't true because you don't want it to be true. You are silly.

Try learning something about science you little troll. You cannot disprove facts only deny them.

You cannot prove they are authentic because they were faked to hide Greer as jkf's real assassin and you know that.

There is a gun in the film.

You are a persistent idiot troll of epic proportions. Congrats...

You are a fool who denys what you don't want to be true but knows is true. YOU ARE A SIMPLE IDIOT WITH AN OBSESSION THAT'S NOT EVEN WORTH THE TIME YOU SPEND ON IT.

Again, I will point out that YOU WILL NOT address any of the points made by others. For example, mine. That all the ballistic evidence pointed to Oswalds gun and ammunition. You claim that there is no evidence that supports him firing. Can you address this? And please be more intelligent than "IT'S FAKE"!!

You have never presented or shown any evidence concerning Oswald supporting the fatal shot.

The only thing you have posted is the repeated insistence that Greer did not shoot Kennedy.

Missing from all of your posts is ANY form of evidence that Oswald shot Kennedy and in fact, the films and witnesses prove you wrong. I never claimed Oswald did anything. I proved Greer's guilt and by default debunked Oswald for the fatal shot. You wouldn't even attempt to prove Oswald fired the fatal shot because I would rape it over and over.

Thats how Liar ability ALWAYS debates. I once discussed this with him mentioning a book that senator gaston fonzi wrote called THE LAST INVESTIGATION where he mentions he resigned from that commission because he was so disgusted with it because the commission ignored any evidence that pointed towards government involvement.He mentions in the book that two CIA men came forward when the investigation was winding down and said-we did it,where do you want to go with this investigation? and like i said,since it pointed towards government involvement,they did not pursue that lead and Liar ability like the coward he is just ignored and and engaged in name calling since he knew he could not counter that and proved him wrong. the troll is like candyfag,a total waste of time not worth the effort.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Again, I will point out that YOU WILL NOT address any of the points made by others. For example, mine. That all the ballistic evidence pointed to Oswalds gun and ammunition. You claim that there is no evidence that supports him firing. Can you address this? And please be more intelligent than "IT'S FAKE"!!

No viewable/photographic source exists showing Oswald brandishing/holding or firing a weapon on that day. But Greer passes the gun and his left arm crosses in the two obscure films.

Amazing!!....................You STILL didn't address my point.
There is evidence that Oswald owned THAT gun. Evidence the gun was in the TSBD. Evidence that he handled the gun. Evidence he was in that building. And evidence that the bullet fragments matched his gun and ammunition..............and ONLY his gun & ammunition. No other caliber ammunition was found. Which would include your ghost gun in the car.
To claim that there isn't a picture or video is a bit juvenile. Do you honestly think that no murder charge can be prosecuted unless there is a video or picture of the accused person actually committing the crime?

Evidence that he handled the gun? yeah like maybe at the rifle shooting range. evidence the bullet fragements matched his gun? your obviously talking about the fake planted fragment found on the gurney found in pristine condition.Lol.you also ignore the facts how there is a photo of a policemen picking up a bullet in the grass and putting it in his pocket which should have resulted in prosecution for removing evidence at crime scene and yet he wasnt.

also amazing is how he could have pulled it off and run down the stairs in front of witnesses in 30 seconds and not be out of breath,a feat nobody has ever been able to duplicate, and that the rifle was a piece of crap with a scope badly misalined. oh and whatever happened the the original rifle,THE MAUSER rifle the police originally reported finding at the crime scene BEFORE they said they found the carcano? give it up,you guys are really making yourselves look like idiots the more and more you say oswald did it.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

No viewable/photographic source exists showing Oswald brandishing/holding or firing a weapon on that day. But Greer passes the gun and his left arm crosses in the two obscure films.

Amazing!!....................You STILL didn't address my point.
There is evidence that Oswald owned THAT gun. Evidence the gun was in the TSBD. Evidence that he handled the gun. Evidence he was in that building. And evidence that the bullet fragments matched his gun and ammunition..............and ONLY his gun & ammunition. No other caliber ammunition was found. Which would include your ghost gun in the car.
To claim that there isn't a picture or video is a bit juvenile. Do you honestly think that no murder charge can be prosecuted unless there is a video or picture of the accused person actually committing the crime?

When you wanna debate in public, on camera, send me a message and we'll set it up.

of course we both know he wont do it.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Amazing!!....................You STILL didn't address my point.
There is evidence that Oswald owned THAT gun. Evidence the gun was in the TSBD. Evidence that he handled the gun. Evidence he was in that building. And evidence that the bullet fragments matched his gun and ammunition..............and ONLY his gun & ammunition. No other caliber ammunition was found. Which would include your ghost gun in the car.
To claim that there isn't a picture or video is a bit juvenile. Do you honestly think that no murder charge can be prosecuted unless there is a video or picture of the accused person actually committing the crime?

When you wanna debate in public, on camera, send me a message and we'll set it up.

I thought we were having a public debate. Only problem is, your not debating. You just say the same thing over and over. You haven't addressed anything I have said. That's not a debate.................it's not even a discussion.

No he is showing proof the dirver did it,you wont look at the evidence,you just keep making up wild ass theorys that oswald did it with no evidence to back it up the same way LIAR ability always does.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

No viewable/photographic source exists showing Oswald brandishing/holding or firing a weapon on that day. But Greer passes the gun and his left arm crosses in the two obscure films.

Amazing!!....................You STILL didn't address my point.
There is evidence that Oswald owned THAT gun. Evidence the gun was in the TSBD. Evidence that he handled the gun. Evidence he was in that building. And evidence that the bullet fragments matched his gun and ammunition..............and ONLY his gun & ammunition. No other caliber ammunition was found. Which would include your ghost gun in the car.
To claim that there isn't a picture or video is a bit juvenile. Do you honestly think that no murder charge can be prosecuted unless there is a video or picture of the accused person actually committing the crime?

There is no evidence of an entrance and exit from the rear, only fiction. My work centers around that. Show me your fictional wound. You have no wounds or wound track. It was debunked by hundreds of books and a movie that made the it the joke it has always been and will be.

amen to that.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

God, STFU already

typical post of a lone nut theorist who knows he is defeated by seven.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Jesus H.....the YELLOW..my eyes are blinded!
But anyway, why would Greer shoot JFK??...who can answer me that??
Everyone else in the car would have known he was the shooter, and why didn't they say something??
Shit, I said I didn't want to get involved in this thread, and here I am.

answered in previous post,again you cant possibly be that dense like these two idiots Liar ability and that other fool?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

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I have addressed this, but I will do it again.
There is an obvious "flap" that blows out the right side of the head, above the right ear. The autopsy photos show the flap on the right side. That is caused by the "exiting" bullet that entered in the rear. You do know that the exit wound is larger wound? The red blast that comes out of the right side of his head is not the "entering" bullet's impact with the skull. It is the "exiting" bullet pulling all the displaced brain tissue out with it.
And again, the bullet fragments pulled from his skull matched the ammunition used in Oswalds rifle.

The back of jfk's head opens up after 312 but before 313. The impact's in the right front, not the right side.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8_hDakTz2I]YouTube - ‪JFK last shot Slow Motion Zapruder Film frames 310 to 328‬‏[/ame]
The driver's shot exited the right rear, clearly.

anyone who doent think that is afraid of the truth "except For Liarability,a troll agent that has penetrated this site and KNOWS the CIA did it." because to accept the governments version,they are implying that the laws of physics that scientists have gone by for thousands of years no longer applys anymore not only that, we have witness testimonys who saw a riflemen behind the picket fence and all dallas doctors said it was an ENTRANCE wound to both the forehead and throat.they obviously slept through junior high school science classes and are afraid of the truth the way they keep ignoring the testimony of expert doctors. "rolls on floor laughing" what a bunch of morons.

 

[Rationalist1016]

Again, I will point out that YOU WILL NOT address any of the points made by others. For example, mine. That all the ballistic evidence pointed to Oswalds gun and ammunition. You claim that there is no evidence that supports him firing. Can you address this? And please be more intelligent than "IT'S FAKE"!!

No viewable/photographic source exists showing Oswald brandishing/holding or firing a weapon on that day. But Greer passes the gun and his left arm crosses in the two obscure films.

He is afraid of the truth so he wont look at the nix film where you can see that happen.

I think you have claimed that I am afraid of the truth in the past. Again, I will tell you that I'm not. If the "truth" is that there was a conspiracy, I'm not afraid to hear that. I, for one, have not claimed that there wasn't a conspiracy. I am very open to that idea. What I have claimed is that Oswald was obviously involved. I believe that he is the one that shot JFK. I believe when you claim that he wasn't involved, you're not backed by evidence. But I think it is very possible, if not likely, that he was one of many that were involved. I believe that LBJ could of had a dirty hand in it. There are no hard facts to back that up, but there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that points to that. So, don't give me this crap that "I'm afraid of the truth" because I don't buy that Greer shot Kennedy!
Of all the claims, and there are A LOT, of who killed JFK, you are backing the most ridiculous one out there. Not only is there no real evidence, and yes that includes the videos, the lack logic behind it is breathe taking. No large conspiracy, run by the government, with the ability to make ANYBODY be quite (apparently what you believe) & access to the highest caliber of marksmen, is going to put forth a strategy that says:

"lets put the shooter in the car, a wide open convertible and while in a wide open area, with a couple hundred people around, probably with cameras, have him assassinate the back seat passenger. And no one will notice, because we will have a diversionary shot fired from somewhere else in the plaza."

The best comedy writer in the world, couldn't come up with something funnier than that.

So, I don't know if you are backing this theory because it is the only one that places the shooter on video. Because, according to 7forever, unless there is video of it.......it didn't happen.

No viewable/photographic source exists showing Oswald brandishing/holding or firing a weapon on that day.

Apparently THIS proves Oswald is innocent!
Following that LOGIC, the shooter HAS to be on film......right?

 

[Rationalist1016]

No viewable/photographic source exists showing Oswald brandishing/holding or firing a weapon on that day. But Greer passes the gun and his left arm crosses in the two obscure films.

Amazing!!....................You STILL didn't address my point.
There is evidence that Oswald owned THAT gun. Evidence the gun was in the TSBD. Evidence that he handled the gun. Evidence he was in that building. And evidence that the bullet fragments matched his gun and ammunition..............and ONLY his gun & ammunition. No other caliber ammunition was found. Which would include your ghost gun in the car.
To claim that there isn't a picture or video is a bit juvenile. Do you honestly think that no murder charge can be prosecuted unless there is a video or picture of the accused person actually committing the crime?

Evidence that he handled the gun? yeah like maybe at the rifle shooting range. evidence the bullet fragements matched his gun? your obviously talking about the fake planted fragment found on the gurney found in pristine condition.Lol.you also ignore the facts how there is a photo of a policemen picking up a bullet in the grass and putting it in his pocket which should have resulted in prosecution for removing evidence at crime scene and yet he wasnt.

also amazing is how he could have pulled it off and run down the stairs in front of witnesses in 30 seconds and not be out of breath,a feat nobody has ever been able to duplicate, and that the rifle was a piece of crap with a scope badly misalined. oh and whatever happened the the original rifle,THE MAUSER rifle the police originally reported finding at the crime scene BEFORE they said they found the carcano? give it up,you guys are really making yourselves look like idiots the more and more you say oswald did it.

So APPARENTLY, everything that isn't on video is "fake" evidence?

"Evidence that he handles the gun?"............Palm print found on the gun. (Of course that's fake because it wasn't videotaped)

"evidence the bullet fragements matched his gun?" You make the assumption that I am talking about the stretcher bullet. I am not, they did conclude that that bullet did come from Oswalds rifle, but that is not what I am talking about. I am talking about all the fragments found in the car, in JFK's head, and in Connolly. All matched Oswalds ammunition. Oddly enough, no fragments matched ammunition from a hand gun. (Of course that's fake because it wasn't videotaped)

"also amazing is how he could have pulled it off and run down the stairs in front of witnesses in 30 seconds and not be out of breath,a feat nobody has ever been able to duplicate". I don't know where you pulled 30 seconds from. Office Baker "estimated" 90 seconds. (need help with the math? that's 3 times as long). Plenty of time to descent 4 floors. (Of course that's fake because it wasn't videotaped)

And witnesses?......you got me! No one claims to have seen him on the staircase. Again, to claim that he didn't do it, because no saw him, is ridiculous. Number one, there were very few people in the building. Most were outside. Number two, there were witnesses on the 5th floor that claimed they could hear the shells hitting the floor during the shooting. (and those claims ARE made on videotape).

The rifle was an Italian Military issue rifle for many years. It wasn't a "great" rifle, but it was hardly a piece of junk. Oswalds was bench tested, and found to be quite accurate.

The Mauser was nothing but an officers claim that it "looked like a Mauser" in the minutes after the shooting. That got translated to reporters before a proper ID could be made. Also, all these interviews can be found online too. (Of course that's fake because it wasn't videotaped)

 

[ncrespi]

The only thing I can add to your insightful post is: Oswald fled soon after the assassination, killed a cop,
resisted arrest when nabbed in a movie theater. These are not the actions of an innocent man. And do you
think an ordinary man could enter Russia, receive luxurious housing and a job?

I only wish Oswald survived long enough to spill the beans on his connections.
--from a believer in Oswald's guilt & conspiracy ties.

 

[7forever]

Kindly explain how every single, not most, but ALL pathologists who either conducted the autopsy, or reviewed xray and photos, both confirmed that they were of JFK to the exclusion of all others, and that they show an ENTRANCE wound on the back of the skull, with an exit in the front.

Kind of destroys your gotcha moment claiming that the driver both drove and scored an over the shoulder left handed head shot, since NO BULLETS struck him from the front.

The rear starts gaping at the moment of front right impact, completely destroying every lie ever told in this case.

FRAME 337.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The only thing I can add to your insightful post is: Oswald fled soon after the assassination, killed a cop,
resisted arrest when nabbed in a movie theater. These are not the actions of an innocent man. And do you
think an ordinary man could enter Russia, receive luxurious housing and a job?

I only wish Oswald survived long enough to spill the beans on his connections.
--from a believer in Oswald's guilt & conspiracy ties.

obviously you have only read the warren commission report because you obviously are not aware that his landlady and witnesses saw others fire GUNS at tippet and the officer on the scene did not mark the shell casings and that a look alike oswald was seen at the theatre being taken out the other opposite door by policemen before other policemen arrived by witnesses. who was that other oswald look alike? you really need to read other books besides the warren commission and what the media tells you. thats the biggest laugh of the century that his post was insightful. his lies are so pitiful that yeah he is a insightful liar.