The John Kennedy assassination ..who's who on the Grassy Knoll

[7forever]

7Eleven has proved Greers role as executioner in the most covered up political murder in modern history. Mainstream corporate media will never print the real truth because....

1. This would expose the Secret Service to questions that it cant answer, and destroy trust in them for their role in JFKs murder, as it rightfully should.

2. The truth about JFKs killer would force more exposure about the whole series of political murders of left of center politicians and leaders in the US, essentially a liquidation of anyone capable of challenging the MIC. The murders of JFK, RFK,MLK,Lennon,JKII, means there are no truly left of center leaders that are not controlled by the military/corporate elite.

3. Ownership of mass media is concentrated in only a few hands, and is a profit making exercise. The purpose of the corporate media is to protect corporate interests, not to tell the truth.

4. The truth is empowering to people and can lead to restoring faith and integrity, but when the people are lied to and believe they cant do anything about it, they are more easily lied to AGAIN. So the political masters keep the lying game going.

5.In my opinion The Bush Crime Family has been involved in these political liquidations and will fight tooth and nail to keep the lid on a larger exposure of the truth behind these murders. They are very active and will probably thrust another sleazy leader (Jeb Bush)onto the scene to keep their power going into the future. In America the scum always rises to the top.

Cheers, Jay

You spelled it out quite well, Jay. This clear truth will have legs with the common man, especially those who have little to no knowledge of this 50 year old, silly cover-up.

 

[7forever]

Again, I will point out that YOU WILL NOT address any of the points made by others. For example, mine. That all the ballistic evidence pointed to Oswalds gun and ammunition. You claim that there is no evidence that supports him firing. Can you address this? And please be more intelligent than "IT'S FAKE"!!

No viewable/photographic source exists showing Oswald brandishing/holding or firing a weapon on that day. But Greer passes the gun and his left arm crosses in the two obscure films.

Amazing!!....................You STILL didn't address my point.
There is evidence that Oswald owned THAT gun. Evidence the gun was in the TSBD. Evidence that he handled the gun. Evidence he was in that building. And evidence that the bullet fragments matched his gun and ammunition..............and ONLY his gun & ammunition. No other caliber ammunition was found. Which would include your ghost gun in the car.
To claim that there isn't a picture or video is a bit juvenile. Do you honestly think that no murder charge can be prosecuted unless there is a video or picture of the accused person actually committing the crime?

When you wanna debate in public, on camera, send me a message and we'll set it up.

 

[7forever]

Again, I will point out that YOU WILL NOT address any of the points made by others. For example, mine. That all the ballistic evidence pointed to Oswalds gun and ammunition. You claim that there is no evidence that supports him firing. Can you address this? And please be more intelligent than "IT'S FAKE"!!

No viewable/photographic source exists showing Oswald brandishing/holding or firing a weapon on that day. But Greer passes the gun and his left arm crosses in the two obscure films.

Amazing!!....................You STILL didn't address my point.
There is evidence that Oswald owned THAT gun. Evidence the gun was in the TSBD. Evidence that he handled the gun. Evidence he was in that building. And evidence that the bullet fragments matched his gun and ammunition..............and ONLY his gun & ammunition. No other caliber ammunition was found. Which would include your ghost gun in the car.
To claim that there isn't a picture or video is a bit juvenile. Do you honestly think that no murder charge can be prosecuted unless there is a video or picture of the accused person actually committing the crime?

There is no evidence of an entrance and exit from the rear, only fiction. My work centers around that. Show me your fictional wound. You have no wounds or wound track. It was debunked by hundreds of books and a movie that made the it the joke it has always been and will be.

 

[Rationalist1016]

No viewable/photographic source exists showing Oswald brandishing/holding or firing a weapon on that day. But Greer passes the gun and his left arm crosses in the two obscure films.

Amazing!!....................You STILL didn't address my point.
There is evidence that Oswald owned THAT gun. Evidence the gun was in the TSBD. Evidence that he handled the gun. Evidence he was in that building. And evidence that the bullet fragments matched his gun and ammunition..............and ONLY his gun & ammunition. No other caliber ammunition was found. Which would include your ghost gun in the car.
To claim that there isn't a picture or video is a bit juvenile. Do you honestly think that no murder charge can be prosecuted unless there is a video or picture of the accused person actually committing the crime?

When you wanna debate in public, on camera, send me a message and we'll set it up.

I thought we were having a public debate. Only problem is, your not debating. You just say the same thing over and over. You haven't addressed anything I have said. That's not a debate.................it's not even a discussion.

 

[7forever]

of course the driver shot him only a idiot would think otherwise,you can see he turns his head..shoots him then turns his head back on the road..what was the reason for the head turn at the exact time the shot was fired?? And more importantly why did he turn his head back on the road straight after the shot?? And he did not turn his head back after the shot he kept driving..the natural reaction would be to turn the head constantly back because of the shock and to check if he's alive.

Finally a poster who really belongs to the forum he posts to who agrees with the obvious. The driver fired the fatal shot because I exposed the left side of Greer's body in the nix and muchmore films.

 

[Dabs]

I wish the truth would clearly come out about this story too. People are always coming up with a new scenario.
Two things- my opinion, and my opinion only. I do not think Oswald acted alone. There were definitely 2 shots fired, and I don't think if Oswald fired, his was the killing shot.
Second, why the hell would the driver want to shoot JFK??
If that were the case, wouldn't everyone else in the car be aware, including the passenger??

 

[Rationalist1016]

of course the driver shot him only a idiot would think otherwise,you can see he turns his head..shoots him then turns his head back on the road..what was the reason for the head turn at the exact time the shot was fired?? And more importantly why did he turn his head back on the road straight after the shot?? And he did not turn his head back after the shot he kept driving..the natural reaction would be to turn the head constantly back because of the shock and to check if he's alive.

Finally a poster who really belongs to the forum he posts to who agrees with the obvious. The driver fired the fatal shot because I exposed the left side of Greer's body in the nix and muchmore films.

Where did you get that quote from? It showed up as an invalid link.
Are you making up posts that "agree with you" now?

 

[7forever]

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I thought we were having a public debate. Only problem is, your not debating. You just say the same thing over and over. You haven't addressed anything I have said. That's not a debate.................it's not even a discussion.

You haven't addressed anything I've proven. If you have a rear shot then show some signs of one. In slow motion the rear gapes open at the moment of front impact. If you can show an exit or missing skull above the right ear when it's visible, then you could offer that but there is none and no autopsy pic showing it.

The whole rear's gaped with nothing on the right side. This is visual proof that the right side is a red herring.

 

[Warrior102]

God, STFU already

 

[7forever]

• 7forever:
  
  “Dr. Humes described the mess at the top as dislodged scalp. He also down played the entrance over
  the right eye as a contusion. Some theorists said jfk went somewhere in between Parkland and Bethesda.
  If so, some type of debridement may have taken place to cover the wound. This area is still visible and
  metal fragments were recovered behind the right eye and showed up in x-rays.
  
  The right rear is clearly missing here and many witnesses saw jfk the way he lies here. He didn't have
  to be on his stomach because the hole was on the right rear. Notice the small flap on the right side
  compared to that fake mess in Zapruder”

- And would seem to make sense with wound channeling. They had the inshoot/outshoot reversed.

Problems with HSCA figure II-19:

Now, see the above and imagine the position Greer (seated as driver) of the presidential limo:

Redline indicates (approx) positioning Greer's unholstered weapon firing over shoulder - note
its' intersection JFK's relative position.

Whoa. Though it needs to be added here, I've not yet accounted for the proper
degree of angle (was JFK's body positioned just-so at that exact moment to account for
this scenario where Greer delivers the killing shot?) Gotta go-back over those vid-bytes.

Joe (Bigsky770) ick. ukeright:

All the government did was conclude the exact opposite of what really happened. Greer fired the fatal shot over the right eye with the exit on the right rear.

 

[Dabs]

Jesus H.....the YELLOW..my eyes are blinded!
But anyway, why would Greer shoot JFK??...who can answer me that??
Everyone else in the car would have known he was the shooter, and why didn't they say something??
Shit, I said I didn't want to get involved in this thread, and here I am.

 

[Rationalist1016]

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I thought we were having a public debate. Only problem is, your not debating. You just say the same thing over and over. You haven't addressed anything I have said. That's not a debate.................it's not even a discussion.

You haven't addressed anything I've proven. If you have a rear shot then show some signs of one. In slow motion the rear gapes open at the moment of front impact. If you can show an exit or missing skull above the right ear when it's visible, then you could offer that but there is none and no autopsy pic showing it.

The whole rear's gaped with nothing on the right side. This is visual proof that the right side is a red herring.

I have addressed this, but I will do it again.
There is an obvious "flap" that blows out the right side of the head, above the right ear. The autopsy photos show the flap on the right side. That is caused by the "exiting" bullet that entered in the rear. You do know that the exit wound is larger wound? The red blast that comes out of the right side of his head is not the "entering" bullet's impact with the skull. It is the "exiting" bullet pulling all the displaced brain tissue out with it.
And again, the bullet fragments pulled from his skull matched the ammunition used in Oswalds rifle.

 

[7forever]

I thought we were having a public debate. Only problem is, your not debating. You just say the same thing over and over. You haven't addressed anything I have said. That's not a debate.................it's not even a discussion.

You haven't addressed anything I've proven. If you have a rear shot then show some signs of one. In slow motion the rear gapes open at the moment of front impact. If you can show an exit or missing skull above the right ear when it's visible, then you could offer that but there is none and no autopsy pic showing it.

The whole rear's gaped with nothing on the right side. This is visual proof that the right side is a red herring.

I have addressed this, but I will do it again.
There is an obvious "flap" that blows out the right side of the head, above the right ear. The autopsy photos show the flap on the right side. That is caused by the "exiting" bullet that entered in the rear. You do know that the exit wound is larger wound? The red blast that comes out of the right side of his head is not the "entering" bullet's impact with the skull. It is the "exiting" bullet pulling all the displaced brain tissue out with it.
And again, the bullet fragments pulled from his skull matched the ammunition used in Oswalds rifle.

Forty witnesses and frame 313 show the rear gape. Show me a blow up or your exit above the right ear. You can't because there isn't one. I did tons of work on this case and you simply repeat bullshit with no evidence.

 

[7forever]

I thought we were having a public debate. Only problem is, your not debating. You just say the same thing over and over. You haven't addressed anything I have said. That's not a debate.................it's not even a discussion.

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I have addressed this, but I will do it again.
There is an obvious "flap" that blows out the right side of the head, above the right ear. The autopsy photos show the flap on the right side. That is caused by the "exiting" bullet that entered in the rear. You do know that the exit wound is larger wound? The red blast that comes out of the right side of his head is not the "entering" bullet's impact with the skull. It is the "exiting" bullet pulling all the displaced brain tissue out with it.
And again, the bullet fragments pulled from his skull matched the ammunition used in Oswalds rifle.

Clint describes a massive exit that could have only been caused by that goon, Greer.

Clint Hill saw the massive hole on the right rear portion of his head.

Mr. HILL. This is the first sound that I heard; yes, sir. I jumped from the car, realizing that something was wrong, ran to the Presidential limousine. Just about as I reached it, there was another sound, which was different than the first sound. I think I described it in my statement as though someone was shooting a revolver into a hard object--it seemed to have some type of an echo. I put my right foot, I believe it was, on the left rear step of the automobile, and I had a hold of the handgrip with my hand, when the car lurched forward. I lost my footing and I had to run about three or four more steps before I could get back up in the car.
Between the time I originally grabbed the handhold and until I was up on the car, Mrs. Kennedy--the second noise that I heard had removed a portion of the President's head, and he had slumped noticeably to his left. Mrs. Kennedy had jumped up from the seat and was, it appeared to me, reaching for something coming off the right rear bumper of the car, the right rear tail, when she noticed that I was trying to climb on the car. She turned toward me and I grabbed her and put her back in the back seat, crawled up on top of the back seat and lay there.


Mr. SPECTER. What did you observe as to President Kennedy's condition on arrival at the hospital?
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.

The back of his head opens up at the moment of the front right impact.

FRAME 337

 

[7forever]

I thought we were having a public debate. Only problem is, your not debating. You just say the same thing over and over. You haven't addressed anything I have said. That's not a debate.................it's not even a discussion.

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I have addressed this, but I will do it again.
There is an obvious "flap" that blows out the right side of the head, above the right ear. The autopsy photos show the flap on the right side. That is caused by the "exiting" bullet that entered in the rear. You do know that the exit wound is larger wound? The red blast that comes out of the right side of his head is not the "entering" bullet's impact with the skull. It is the "exiting" bullet pulling all the displaced brain tissue out with it.
And again, the bullet fragments pulled from his skull matched the ammunition used in Oswalds rifle.

The back of jfk's head opens up after 312 but before 313. The impact's in the right front, not the right side.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8_hDakTz2I]YouTube - ‪JFK last shot Slow Motion Zapruder Film frames 310 to 328‬‏[/ame]
The driver's shot exited the right rear, clearly.

 

[Rationalist1016]

Doesn't your own picture show the large defect on the right side of his head?
Also, it is interesting to note that the picture you have is obviously different than the one I have. Yours shows the back of the head to be red. Whereas the one that I have, shows it brown. Also view the picture of the back of his head. Doesn't look blown out to me.

 

[Dabs]

In the photo above ^^^^^ the center one, with a number 337 on it...it doesn't appear he even has a head!

 

[7forever]

Doesn't your own picture show the large defect on the right side of his head?
Also, it is interesting to note that the picture you have is obviously different than the one I have. Yours shows the back of the head to be red. Whereas the one that I have, shows it brown. Also view the picture of the back of his head. Doesn't look blown out to me.

The rear skull gape is circled with the fake flap on the right side, likely with sun glare to boot. The images and vid caps are from different clips showing different exposures. The older clips show more evidence of alteration. There is hair around the hole that shows no hair in the hole, clearly.

FRAME 313, MOMENT IMPACT SHOWING SKULL MISSING OR REAR. It doesn't get more clear than this.

 

[7forever]

In the photo above ^^^^^ the center one, with a number 337 on it...it doesn't appear he even has a head!

There's a lot going on there but his head is down. Watch the fake flap alteration in slow motion.

The fake flap and mist starts in the right front and moves to the right side. Watch the fake reflection move back in unison with the fake mist.

Watch the rear start breaking with the mist at right front before full gape.

 

[Rationalist1016]

The rear skull gape is circled with the fake flap on the right side, likely with sun glare to boot. The images and vid caps are from different clips showing different exposures. The older clips show more evidence of alteration. There is hair around the hole that shows no hair in the hole, clearly.

FRAME 313, MOMENT IMPACT SHOWING SKULL MISSING OR REAR. It doesn't get more clear than this.

Oh............the flap is fake!!
How did I not see that coming? Of course it's fake, it doesn't fit "your" claim.