Zone1 The Jews Put Jesus On The Cross! Jesus Was Palestinian!

[irosie91]

Caiaphas was the high priest and leader of the Sanhedrin. How was he not a Jewish leader? The Sanhedrin were the ones who arrested and tried Jesus. It was Sanhedrin guards who came to Gethsemane to arrest Jesus. The Sanhedrin would have executed Jesus but they did not have the authority to impose capital punishment in his case.

At the time in question, the "high priest" was a roman appointee. Caiaphas was despised. ---Herod was almost as despised. All of the people called "tax collectors" were also
Roman appointees. The people called "money changers" had
their positions under the protection of Rome. Without knowing
the facts of the history of the era-----the NT is a mystery. Did you notice that Jesus was criticized for hanging around with no-good-niks like "tax collectors"? Did your catechism person tell you why? why not? Executing Jesus would not have been a problem
for the Sanhedrin if it found him guilty of a capital crime----like
murder. Sedition against Rome is not a capital crime in jewish law. In fact a person claiming to be a "messiah" is not a capital crime
either-----it is evidence of INSANITY. Barabbas was also guilty of
SEDITION AGAINST ROME----not "theft" as is taught in jelly-bean
school. Theft is not a capital crime in jewish law. Jesus was guilty
of ATTACKING ROMAN APPOINTEES----to wit---the 'money changers' His action amounted to SEDITION AGAINST ROME

 

[rosends]

Caiaphas was the high priest and leader of the Sanhedrin. How was he not a Jewish leader? The Sanhedrin were the ones who arrested and tried Jesus. It was Sanhedrin guards who came to Gethsemane to arrest Jesus. The Sanhedrin would have executed Jesus but they did not have the authority to impose capital punishment in his case.

1. According to Jewish history, the valid Sanhedrin had moved away years before.
2. What Jesus did is not punishable by death in Judaism
3. If the court finds a defendant guilty and requiring a death penalty, only certain kinds, enacted in certain ways sufficed. Crucifixion is not one of the ways.
4. The details of the "trial" run so counter to Jewish law that either the writer was ignorant or those involved were not representing Jewish law.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

His action amounted to SEDITION AGAINST ROME

In those days, that’s what it was. Crucifixion was commonplace, whether you were a Jew or not.

 

[Moonglow]

actually---the only people in JUDEA at that time who DID NOT put Jesus on the Cross----were jews. Crucifixion was a Persian, Greek and Roman thing----Jews NEVER crucified anyone ----in fact doing so is PROSCRIBED by Jewish law. Jelly bean school education is sadly deficient

Mmmmmm, jelly beans.

 

[irosie91]

1. According to Jewish history, the valid Sanhedrin had moved away years before.
2. What Jesus did is not punishable by death in Judaism
3. If the court finds a defendant guilty and requiring a death penalty, only certain kinds, enacted in certain ways sufficed. Crucifixion is not one of the ways.
4. The details of the "trial" run so counter to Jewish law that either the writer was ignorant or those involved were not representing Jewish law.

IMHO---the NT was not written for jews knowledgeable in
jewish law

 

[irosie91]

Mmmmmm, jelly beans.

I don't like the black ones (racism??) or the grapefruit flavored
ones (very light yellow) or the green ones if they are very minty

 

[Meriweather]

Woke teaches help those who need help.
Something Jesus should have taught you

Woke" is an adjective that means being aware of and attentive to important issues, especially social and racial justice.

Everyone needs help, not just people the Woke decide are in need of help. Another way you have it backwards: The question is not whether Jesus is "Woke". The question is, Are the "Woke" following Jesus? The answer to that is that in vital ways, they are not. The one thing the Woke have never been accused of is loving all. Seeking power and attention is not serving in the way Jesus taught: Don't let your left hand know what your right hand is doing. Woke is all about attention, Look at me, admire me, hate yourself. The Woke wanted power to order society around, cancelling those who refused to fall in line behind them. They had no wish to serve. Not one of them was willing to lay down his/her own life. They were very willing to lay down the lives of others; meddle in the lives of others.

Your "Woke Adjective" is a primary difference between themselves and Jesus. The "Woke" want to divert attention from being attentive to individual need to "issues". I advise they grab a tissue for their "issues" and open their eyes to the needs of those individuals whose paths they cross every day in their individual lives.

There are huge differences between Jesus and all of us--the Woke are a shining example of this. Let the Woke follow their issues while the rest of us follow the ways of God.

 

[rightwinger]

Everyone needs help, not just people the Woke decide are in need of help. Another way you have it backwards: The question is not whether Jesus is "Woke". The question is, Are the "Woke" following Jesus? The answer to that is that in vital ways, they are not. The one thing the Woke have never been accused of is loving all. Seeking power and attention is not serving in the way Jesus taught: Don't let your left hand know what your right hand is doing. Woke is all about attention, Look at me, admire me, hate yourself. The Woke wanted power to order society around, cancelling those who refused to fall in line behind them. They had no wish to serve. Not one of them was willing to lay down his/her own life. They were very willing to lay down the lives of others; meddle in the lives of others.

Your "Woke Adjective" is a primary difference between themselves and Jesus. The "Woke" want to divert attention from being attentive to individual need to "issues". I advise they grab a tissue for their "issues" and open their eyes to the needs of those individuals whose paths they cross every day in their individual lives.

There are huge differences between Jesus and all of us--the Woke are a shining example of this. Let the Woke follow their issues while the rest of us follow the ways of God.

I don’t see anyone running around saying…..
Look at me, I am woke
The term is used almost exclusively by conservatives to mock those who show concern for others.
Jesus was woke
He cared for societies outcasts

 

[Meriweather]

He cared for societies outcasts

Jesus cared for all. He was not centered on anyone group, anyone class. He was focused on each individual, not "issues".

 

[rightwinger]

Jesus cared for all. He was not centered on anyone group, anyone class. He was focused on each individual, not "issues".

I didn’t see Jesus going out of his way to help the rich

He concentrated on societies outcasts…….the lepers, the sick, the poor

Conservatives would mock him as woke

 

[irosie91]

Jesus cared for all. He was not centered on anyone group, anyone class. He was focused on each individual, not "issues".

except SWINE---he said "cast not your pearls before swine"

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Jesus was not a Palestinian. No such nation exits then or now.

So, there's no such thing as an Alaskan or a Texan or American?

 

[Meriweather]

I didn’t see Jesus going out of his way to help the rich

He concentrated on societies outcasts…….the lepers, the sick, the poor

Read the New Testament more closely. Jesus helped everyone, and I'm surprised the stories of rich people don't immediately come into your mind. He brought one rich man back from the dead. Another rich man supplied an expensive burial cloth after Jesus was crucified.

What you are noticing is that the Woke reputation is questionable. In an effort to clean it up, you are using the name of Jesus. We are warned against using the Lord's name in vain. Just as Jesus also spoke to the poor, the average person, the rich, the priests, the leaders, even his closest followers to clean up their act, he would do the same with the Woke today (along with all the people I just mentioned). Jesus is not Woke. Jesus is One with the Father, he is God. It does no one any good to try and pull him down and to use him as a cleaning rag to spruce up the image of any group. That includes Christians. Christians are disciples of Jesus, He is our head, our leader. Do the Woke claim Jesus as their head, their leader? Do they follow Christ? Or do they follow the issues?

 

[rightwinger]

Read the New Testament more closely. Jesus helped everyone, and I'm surprised the stories of rich people don't immediately come into your mind. He brought one rich man back from the dead. Another rich man supplied an expensive burial cloth after Jesus was crucified.

What you are noticing is that the Woke reputation is questionable. In an effort to clean it up, you are using the name of Jesus. We are warned against using the Lord's name in vain. Just as Jesus also spoke to the poor, the average person, the rich, the priests, the leaders, even his closest followers to clean up their act, he would do the same with the Woke today (along with all the people I just mentioned). Jesus is not Woke. Jesus is One with the Father, he is God. It does no one any good to try and pull him down and to use him as a cleaning rag to spruce up the image of any group. That includes Christians. Christians are disciples of Jesus, He is our head, our leader. Do the Woke claim Jesus as their head, their leader? Do they follow Christ? Or do they follow the issues?

I didn’t see Jesus hanging out with the wealthy

Elon Musk was not one of his disciples

 

[BreezeWood]

Jesus was Woke

It means denying biology. It means trying to keep elective abortion as easy to obtain as possible. It means redefining marriage to include same-sex couples,in plain rejection of the biblical and traditional definition

jesus taught liberation theology, self determination and refuted the false commandments of moses, heredity idolatry, religion of apartheid of abraham et al judaism -

there is no doubt jesus, a simple religious itinerant repudiated as corruptions - those choices expressed by griffith-1 the prevailing judaism as a religion as are the present desert religions all three with the same preamble to their bibles that use their strictures to persecute and victimize the innocent throughout the centuries.

the crucifixion of jesus is the reversal of the heavenly ordained events for humanities renewal the parable of noah where evil triumphed over good and has ruled those prevailing religions ever since. mg 1 the crucifier.

 

[BreezeWood]

4. The details of the "trial" run so counter to Jewish law that either the writer was ignorant or those involved were not representing Jewish law.

that's because a 4th century alliance emerged of romans (christians) christianity and judaism using the same preamble to their bibles that is counter to the expressed message jesus taught the repudiation of the false commandments, hereditary idolatry, religion of apartheid the new alliance, crucifiers would not allow to be known as the true cause for their crime against humanity.

 

[irosie91]

So, there's no such thing as an Alaskan or a Texan or American?

there is an ALASKA and TEXAS and an AMERICA---but at the
time that Jesus lived there was no nation called PALESTINE.
Jesus was a Judean----the name of the nation was JUDEA. After the romans laid waste to Judea it became "palestine" The word
"Palestinian" was used to describe jews living in the area called
Palestine. In 1948 Jews living in the area called Palestine became ISRAELIS---because MOST of the land that came to be the nation Israel was historically the KINGDOM OF ISRAEL. Non jews, specifically arabs living in the area that came
to be called "PALESTINE" during the time of the Ottoman empire and when the area became a British Mandate were called "arabs"
until the 1960s when they took up the moniker "Palestinian" Before the 1960s the only people called PALESTINIANS were jews

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Buttercup judges the above statement to be false. Chances are that her sunday school teacher told her that Jews engaged in CRUCIFIXION and she BELIEVES that bullshit. Long ago--when I was a kid----my christian playmates believed that crucifixion was
a kind of special event reserved for Jesus that jews invented and his last meal was bacon and eggs

You make a lot of stupid ASSumptions

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Buttercup judges the above statement to be false. Chances are that her sunday school teacher told her that Jews engaged in CRUCIFIXION and she BELIEVES that bullshit. Long ago--when I was a kid----my christian playmates believed that crucifixion was
a kind of special event reserved for Jesus that jews invented and his last meal was bacon and eggs

 

[irosie91]

In the New Testament, Barabbas was a prisoner who was known for murder, insurrection, and theft.

the roman CAPITAL OFFENSE---sedition against Rome