Zone1 There's more to Jesus' "turning over the tables" incident than people realize

[buttercup]

A long time ago I lived in Perrysburg Ohio for a decade. It was the start when Muslims were moving in.

I shared an apartment with a Christian friend, and our neighbors were 4 Arab Muslims.

I wasn't home at the time, but my roommate was.

He heard a lot of noise from their apartment and he went over to see what was going on.

One of the 4 Arabs came out of the bathroom holding a large blood stained knife. He was also drenched in blood!

My roommate told me he looked so stereotypically Arab.

The guy holding the knife told him they bought a sheep and slit it's throat in the bathtub.

My roommate went to look and he said there was blood EVERYWHERE!

I Never saw any of this, but when he told me about it all I said to him was, "fucking savages!"

I liked these guys before this but that changed my opinion of them forever.

I sure can't see God thinking this behavior represents Him at all

I don't even know where to begin with that. But that seriously almost made me lose my lunch.

You reminded me of a video clip I saw of a Muslim man who was about to slit the throat of a chicken in front of a few kids. Actually, instead of explaining it, I'll just find the clip and post it.



Here's what I really believe and what I think that video (and there's many more like it) shows... We weren't born that violent and heartless. The kids have it right. Innocent kids want to pet and play with animals, not slit their throats. The violence and apathy is TAUGHT. Leo Tolstoy put it this way: "Compassion towards animals is so natural to us, that only through conditioning could we become callous towards their suffering and death."

And of course I agree with you that that barbaric behavior does not represent the God we know is a God of love and peace. It does not represent the God who made His intent perfectly clear in the Garden of Eden and in the prophetic scriptures about the Peaceable Kingdom to come, when the wolf will dwell with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with the goat, the calf, the young lion, and the fatling will be together, and a child will lead them.

And the point that innocent children have it right I think goes along with what Jesus said about the Kingdom of Heaven and becoming like children. (Which I just happened to change my signature to today)

 

[irosie91]

- could actually have been you, 91 - the defender of that practice.

to just what practice do you refer----entirely humane slaughter of animals for food other
than the wildly barbaric EATING OF THE LIMB OF THE LIVING---practiced by your cohort?
or the HUNTING season in upstate New York?----the torture murder of Bambi?

 

[The Irish Ram]

I don't even know where to begin with that. But that seriously almost made me lose my lunch.

You reminded me of a video clip I saw of a Muslim man who was about to slit the throat of a chicken in front of a few kids. Actually, instead of explaining it, I'll just find the clip and post it.



Here's what I really believe and what I think that video (and there's many more like it) shows... We weren't born that violent and heartless. The kids have it right. Innocent kids want to pet and play with animals, not slit their throats. The violence and apathy is TAUGHT. Leo Tolstoy put it this way: "Compassion towards animals is so natural to us, that only through conditioning could we become callous towards their suffering and death."

And of course I agree with you that that barbaric behavior does not represent the God we know is a God of love and peace. It does not represent the God who made His intent perfectly clear in the Garden of Eden and in the prophetic scriptures about the Peaceable Kingdom to come, when the wolf will dwell with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with the goat, the calf, the young lion, and the fatling will be together, and a child will lead them.

And the point that innocent children have it right I think goes along with what Jesus said about the Kingdom of Heaven and becoming like children. (Which I just happened to change my signature to today)

And children have guardian angels:

Matthew 18:10-14 “Be careful. Don't think these little children are worth nothing. I tell you that they have angels in heaven who are always with my Father in heaven.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

And children have guardian angels:

Matthew 18:10-14 “Be careful. Don't think these little children are worth nothing. I tell you that they have angels in heaven who are always with my Father in heaven.

And except you become like these little children, YOU WILL IN NO WAY ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN

God takes this stuff pretty seriously

 

[BreezeWood]

to just what practice do you refer----entirely humane slaughter of animals for food other
than the wildly barbaric EATING OF THE LIMB OF THE LIVING---practiced by your cohort?
or the HUNTING season in upstate New York?----the torture murder of Bambi?

that was abraham, from the beginning defying the heavens their own decision to substitute an innocent lamb for their son - the corruption of all three desert religions.

their contribution to garden earth ... abraham.

who's cohorts that's what jesus is saying for that practice, deliberately sacrificing what does not belong to them to the heavens who created them - good luck.

ex. i drive ellen to church nearly every morning, she makes me give her $5.00 - then gives the 5 to the church ... who's kidding who.