Zone1 The JEW From JUDEA ISRAEL [Jesus]

Nazareth [Judaea] or Bethlehem [Judaea]?

  • Nazareth

    Votes: 5 71.4%
  • Bethlehem

    Votes: 2 28.6%

  • Total voters
    7
It seems that "truth" is a muslim. I know him well now as would my husband who was born in a SHARIAH SHIT HOLE.
I read the islamo nazi literature way back in the 1950s and have interacted with muslims EXTENSIVELY over the 60 years. They
all say the same things----the same script ---whether educated in
"arab" countries or any of the south east Asian countries----or any
part of "the West" The most amusing of their idiot claim that they do not FORCE CONVERSION and EXCEL in "toleration"----I did not even know that "toleration" is a word until a met brainwashed
muslims. They even have a common "english" lingo
 
Sure you did. He never mentioned that anyone will be enslaved. You said that "essentially" that's what he is saying. Except it isn't. You added it.

Says who? Forced Conversion to Islam? | Todd Caldecott

ah, so an ethnically cleansed area, no freedom of religion and a separate set of rules for "believers." Got it.
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No proselytizing? So they can't do exactly what you are doing here. You have a freedom they don't. Got it. And things they can't do including how they behave and dress? That seems reasonable...

No, it doesn't. Look -- more stuff you don't understand.

you mean your conception of "Torah" which isn't Judaism.

and there you go again. More stuff you don't know, so you just spew stupidity.

HAHAHAHA! Jews of Iran

It's only biblical if you don't know the bible. You don't so you come to this conclusion.

There are no taxes that are designated specifically for me, as a Jew, to pay to ensure I don't get killed. In fact, there are no taxes imposed on me because of my religion. Strange, right?

except you have already admitted that your rules would control where certain people can live, how they can dress and how they can behave. Sure, no cultural genocide there...wink wink.

No, that's what you are going to do to yourselves, then. It is actually more like the concept of reversion. People who started out as something but drifted from it and now return to it. You might not be familiar with the concept of reversion. If you need me to explain it more, I will.

Ah, so you deny the prophecies of the Jewish bible. So therefore, no prophecies of Jesus exist. No prophecies of any punishments on the Jews exist. Cultural genocide anyone?

A sabbath goy is a slave? Wow. You really don't know anything about Judaism.

So calling Muhammed a madman is acceptbale for a righteous Jew. Great.

only if you can't read. Clearly you can't.

Again, you clearly don't read and have no interest in facts. I presented you with the information and you choose to close your eyes. Your choice. Stupid, but your choice.

Learn English and stop embarrassing yourself.

so he was until he wasn't. Great.

I never said he was.

Untrue. Want to try again?
Sure you did.

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He never mentioned that anyone will be enslaved. You said that "essentially" that's what he is saying. Except it isn't. You added it.

He said "the goyimmmmmm" are going to be genocided culturally, "basically"... (and PHYSICALLY by default, it follows logically..duh). He even said, individually, as people, not just as nations or collectively. Basically genocided culturally and otherwise as well, stop lying...






How are you going to culturally, and ontologically, genocide nations and individuals? What do your TaNaK, Talmud, and rabbis say about it? It's going to be a violent, catastrophic process, resulting in the destruction of nations. It's going to be a Goy Holocaust. Stop pretending otherwise. From 2:07 to the end (especially starting at 3:40), watch:



The level of delusional arrogance is unbelievable, incredible. The Europeans and Muslims, both Edom and Ishmael are going to be destroyed and he wishes that to happen. The goyim have to hang their hats on the Jews, depending upon them to connect with Allah, and they will be subject to the Jews and those who don't comply will be annihilated. Wiped out. How disgusting. Your ethno-nationalist supremacist religion and culture are repulsive. Absolutely disgusting. The attitude you Jews have towards yourselves and others.






The goyyyyyyyyyyy, if they're not in good standing with Israelllllllllllllll are going to be wiped out. The goyim that aren't in subjection to the Jews, are going to be annihilated. They either honor and pay tribute to the Jews or they're toast. And most of them, with few exceptions, aren't going to inherit the "world to come". They return to the dust, and that's it, k'lum. Nothing. Period.

The Jews lied, taking truth and falsehood, mixing it, for political reasons, centuries before the prophet Jesus. Lying about Ishmael, about Moses, slandering the holy prophets of Israel, exaggerating everything including their relationship with Allah and with the rest of mankind. Arrogance, pride, stiff-necked, xenophobic, vindictive..etc. Incredible. They suffer from an "inflationary disease" that causes their heads to inflate. Inflated heads.


I never claimed Muslims have never misbehaved. In Yemen, Jews persecuted Muslims, for centuries. Muslims in general, treat minorities, well, allowing them to practice their religions, and maintain most of their cultural customs, unlike rabbinic Judaism, which looks forward to the destruction of Europe and Muslims, subjugating all of humanity, forcing them to become Noahide subjects of their "Sanhedrin". Yes indeed.

The laws are much stricter for the Noahide under Jewish "ubermenche" (Superman) rule. The Jewish ubermensch, with their "divine souls" are going to rule over the inferior, "Untermensch" ("under-man") goyim, with their kelipot-souls. Rosend, stop lying my Jewish friend, stop lying. LYING! LYING! LYING! Hasbara.


ah, so an ethnically cleansed area, no freedom of religion and a separate set of rules for "believers." Got it.

Ethnic cleansing is what Jews do, not Muslims. If Muslims do it, they're breaking Sharia. If I knew of a country that was persecuting Jews, I would be on the side of the Jews, defending them against my fellow Muslims. I condemn the persecution of minorities, and every true Muslim is against it. We would defend the Jews, even against other Muslims, if they did that. The members of my community have a history of defending Jews against persecution and co-existing peacefully with Jews. During the Russian pogroms, members of my Tarika, Sufi community, gave their lives, fighting in defense of their Jewish friends.

As far as freedom of religion, Jews practically have 100% freedom to practice their religion. More so than other religions, because like us, they're monotheists and worship Allah, unlike the Christians who worship a man and his mother. The Hindus and Buddhists are also more restricted in what they can and can't do, but for the most part, they have much freedom. They can build their houses of worship, and repair them, they can have their own schools, religious institutions, and they can worship their god/gods.

If there are feasts, festivals, "religious pageantry", they can do it within their neighborhoods, or in certain areas allocated for them. Sharia is tolerant, that's why there are still Jews, Christians, and Hindus in the world, despite living for centuries under Islamic rule.

Muslims who study Sharia, like myself, consider it an honor to be a good steward of the people of the book, being merciful to them. That is the hallmark of a true Muslim, one's tolerance of minorities.

For example, kind of getting off the topic of religion and ethnicity, but still relevant. The prophet Muhammad didn't wipe out all of the transsexuals or transgender people, he gave them a village, a place to exist, to live, without being harassed or persecuted. Are there "gay pride parades" under Islamic rule, like in "fake-Israel"? :


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No, there's none of the above under Islamic rule (in your face, prideful, celebratory, pompous, out of the closet, homosexuality), BUT, the people who suffer from gender dysphoria or same-sex attraction, aren't oppressed, persecuted, hunted down, and murdered. They're given a place in society, and their rights are respected:




Are there problems? Sure. Muslims aren't angels, we're not perfect. But Sharia attempts to mitigate these societal problems, whenever possible without violence. The Orthodox Jews, when they're in a position to rule, enforce Torah, they're much more violent than Muslims. Muslims, even "fundamentalists" like me, are way more tolerant than Orthodox Jews, when we're in charge. Much more lenient on many issues, because we realize that "Tikun Olam" is a process, it's not going to come about through oppression, or unmitigated, widespread, violence. With gleeeeeee, you Orthodox Jews talk about the destruction of the goyim, edom being destroyed, and Ishmael going to war with the Europeans, and pulverizing each other and you shout "Baruch Hashem!".



It's only biblical if you don't know the bible. You don't so you come to this conclusion.

There are no taxes that are designated specifically for me, as a Jew, to pay to ensure I don't get killed. In fact, there are no taxes imposed on me because of my religion. Strange, right?

except you have already admitted that your rules would control where certain people can live, how they can dress and how they can behave. Sure, no cultural genocide there...wink wink.

No, that's what you are going to do to yourselves, then. It is actually more like the concept of reversion. People who started out as something but drifted from it and now return to it. You might not be familiar with the concept of reversion. If you need me to explain it more, I will.

Ah, so you deny the prophecies of the Jewish bible. So therefore, no prophecies of Jesus exist. No prophecies of any punishments on the Jews exist. Cultural genocide anyone?

A sabbath goy is a slave? Wow. You really don't know anything about Judaism.

So calling Muhammed a madman is acceptbale for a righteous Jew. Great.

only if you can't read. Clearly you can't.

Again, you clearly don't read and have no interest in facts. I presented you with the information and you choose to close your eyes. Your choice. Stupid, but your choice.

Learn English and stop embarrassing yourself.

so he was until he wasn't. Great.

I never said he was.


Untrue. Want to try again?


More lies, half-truths, exaggerations, misinterpretations, logical fallacies, hasbara..etc.


Rosend, believe whatever lies you want about Islam or your Jewish self. I have other things, more important to do than continue going back and forth with a lying, disingenuous Jew like you. I have bills to pay, bye.
 
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He said "the goyimmmmmm" are going to be genocided culturally, "basically"... (and PHYSICALLY by default, it follows logically..duh). He even said, individually, as people, not just as nations or collectively. Basically genocided culturally and otherwise as well, stop lying...






How are you going to culturally, and ontologically, genocide nations and individuals? What do your TaNaK, Talmud, and rabbis say about it? It's going to be a violent, catastrophic process, resulting in the destruction of nations. It's going to be a Goy Holocaust. Stop pretending otherwise. From 2:07 to the end (especially starting at 3:40), watch:



The level of delusional arrogance is unbelievable, incredible. The Europeans and Muslims, both Edom and Ishmael are going to be destroyed and he wishes that to happen. The goyim have to hang their hats on the Jews, depending upon them to connect with Allah, and they will be subject to the Jews and those who don't comply will be annihilated. Wiped out. How disgusting. Your ethno-nationalist supremacist religion and culture are repulsive. Absolutely disgusting. The attitude you Jews have towards yourselves and others.






The goyyyyyyyyyyy, if they're not in good standing with Israelllllllllllllll are going to be wiped out. The goyim that aren't in subjection to the Jews, are going to be annihilated. They either honor and pay tribute to the Jews or they're toast. And most of them, with few exceptions, aren't going to inherit the "world to come". They return to the dust, and that's it, k'lum. Nothing. Period.

The Jews lied, taking truth and falsehood, mixing it, for political reasons, centuries before the prophet Jesus. Lying about Ishmael, about Moses, slandering the holy prophets of Israel, exaggerating everything including their relationship with Allah and with the rest of mankind. Arrogance, pride, stiff-necked, xenophobic, vindictive..etc. Incredible. They suffer from an "inflationary disease" that causes their heads to inflate. Inflated heads.



I never claimed Muslims have never misbehaved. In Yemen, Jews persecuted Muslims, for centuries. Muslims in general, treat minorities, well, allowing them to practice their religions, and maintain most of their cultural customs, unlike rabbinic Judaism, which looks forward to the destruction of Europe and Muslims, subjugating all of humanity, forcing them to become Noahide subjects of their "Sanhedrin". Yes indeed.

The laws are much stricter for the Noahide under Jewish "ubermenche" (Superman) rule. The Jewish ubermensch, with their "divine souls" are going to rule over the inferior, "Untermensch" ("under-man") goyim, with their kelipot-souls. Rosend, stop lying my Jewish friend, stop lying. LYING! LYING! LYING! Hasbara.



Ethnic cleansing is what Jews do, not Muslims. If Muslims do it, they're breaking Sharia. If I knew of a country that was persecuting Jews, I would be on the side of the Jews, defending them against my fellow Muslims. I condemn the persecution of minorities, and every true Muslim is against it. We would defend the Jews, even against other Muslims, if they did that. The members of my community have a history of defending Jews against persecution and co-existing peacefully with Jews. During the Russian pogroms, members of my Tarika, Sufi community, gave their lives, fighting in defense of their Jewish friends.

As far as freedom of religion, Jews practically have 100% freedom to practice their religion. More so than other religions, because like us, they're monotheists and worship Allah, unlike the Christians who worship a man and his mother. The Hindus and Buddhists are also more restricted in what they can and can't do, but for the most part, they have much freedom. They can build their houses of worship, and repair them, they can have their own schools, religious institutions, and they can worship their god/gods.

If there are feasts, festivals, "religious pageantry", they can do it within their neighborhoods, or in certain areas allocated for them. Sharia is tolerant, that's why there are still Jews, Christians, and Hindus in the world, despite living for centuries under Islamic rule.

Muslims who study Sharia, like myself, consider it an honor to be a good steward of the people of the book, being merciful to them. That is the hallmark of a true Muslim, one's tolerance of minorities.

For example, kind of getting off the topic of religion and ethnicity, but still relevant. The prophet Muhammad didn't wipe out all of the transsexuals or transgender people, he gave them a village, a place to exist, to live, without being harassed or persecuted. Are there "gay pride parades" under Islamic rule, like in "fake-Israel"? :



No, there's none of the above under Islamic rule (in your face, prideful, celebratory, pompous, out of the closet, homosexuality), BUT, the people who suffer from gender dysphoria or same-sex attraction, aren't oppressed, persecuted, hunted down, and murdered. They're given a place in society, and their rights are respected:




Are there problems? Sure. Muslims aren't angels, we're not perfect. But Sharia attempts to mitigate these societal problems, whenever possible without violence. The Orthodox Jews, when they're in a position to rule, enforce Torah, they're much more violent than Muslims. Muslims, even "fundamentalists" like me, are way more tolerant than Orthodox Jews, when we're in charge. Much more lenient on many issues, because we realize that "Tikun Olam" is a process, it's not going to come about through oppression, or unmitigated, widespread, violence. With gleeeeeee, you Orthodox Jews talk about the destruction of the goyim, edom being destroyed, and Ishmael going to war with the Europeans, and pulverizing each other and you shout "Baruch Hashem!".






More lies, half-truths, exaggerations, misinterpretations, logical fallacies, hasbara..etc.


Rosend, believe whatever lies you want about Islam or your Jewish self. I have other things, more important to do than continue going back and forth with a lying, disingenuous Jew like you. I have bills to pay, bye.

Your entire post is a LIE ---in fact a filthy disgusting lie over the
dead bodies of HUNDRDS OF MILLIONS----you and yours still dance with glee over the dead bodies of 1.5 million biafran babies---a mere fraction of the HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of the victims of the FILTH AND PERVERSITY of muslims-----not only of KAFFIRIN but even of "muslims of the wrong sect"
ANYONE interested---find a Bangladeshi muslim and say
"WEST PAKISTAN" or find a SHIITE PAKISTANI ---or talk to
chaldeans, maronites, copts ----the list of islamic genocides
is ENDLESS and ongoing. (I am married to a survivor)
 


Levirate marriage is a practice in the Bible where a man is required to marry the widow of his deceased brother if he has no children:

  • Deuteronomy 25:5–10: This passage in the Hebrew Bible describes the legal case of levirate marriage. It states that a man's brother is required to marry his widow if the man dies without children. The brother must father a child who will be considered the son of the deceased man.
  • Yibbum: The Hebrew term for levirate marriage is yibbum.
  • Halizah: If either party refuses to go through with the marriage, they must perform a ceremony called halizah to symbolically renounce the marriage.
  • Grave offense: Not performing the duty of a levir was considered a grave offense and resulted in stigmatization.
  • Protection of widows: The Mosaic law endorsed levirate marriage to protect young widows.
The Bible also includes two narratives related to levirate marriage:
    • Genesis 38
      Judah tries to prevent his daughter-in-law Tamar from marrying his last living son, which leads Tamar to seduce Judah.
    • Ruth Chapter 4
      Boaz marries Ruth the Moabite, the widow of Mahlon, to raise up the name of the dead in his inheritance.


    • Islamic Sharia in many ways is less strict than the Jewish-produced (concocted) Torah. The five-books falsely attributed to Moses, which does contain some genuine material from the original Torah (the law revealed to prophet Moses), but has been corrupted by Jewish writers, for political reasons.
 


Levirate marriage is a practice in the Bible where a man is required to marry the widow of his deceased brother if he has no children:

  • Deuteronomy 25:5–10: This passage in the Hebrew Bible describes the legal case of levirate marriage. It states that a man's brother is required to marry his widow if the man dies without children. The brother must father a child who will be considered the son of the deceased man.
  • Yibbum: The Hebrew term for levirate marriage is yibbum.
  • Halizah: If either party refuses to go through with the marriage, they must perform a ceremony called halizah to symbolically renounce the marriage.
  • Grave offense: Not performing the duty of a levir was considered a grave offense and resulted in stigmatization.
  • Protection of widows: The Mosaic law endorsed levirate marriage to protect young widows.
The Bible also includes two narratives related to levirate marriage:
    • Genesis 38
      Judah tries to prevent his daughter-in-law Tamar from marrying his last living son, which leads Tamar to seduce Judah.
    • Ruth Chapter 4
      Boaz marries Ruth the Moabite, the widow of Mahlon, to raise up the name of the dead in his inheritance.


    • Islamic Sharia in many ways is less strict than the Jewish-produced (concocted) Torah. The five-books falsely attributed to Moses, which does contain some genuine material from the original Torah (the law revealed to prophet Moses), but has been corrupted by Jewish writers, for political reasons.

More stuff you don't know. Ever hear of Rabbeinu Tam? Clearly not. I'm at a wedding so I'll keep my calling out your ignorance to a minimum. Go pay your bills.
 
More stuff you don't know. Ever hear of Rabbeinu Tam? Clearly not. I'm at a wedding so I'll keep my calling out your ignorance to a minimum. Go pay your bills.
Irrelevant gobbledygook. Rosend, the Disengenious Response Dispenser (DRD).
 
Irrelevant gobbledygook. Rosend, the Disengenious Response Dispenser (DRD).
Ah, it is irrelevant because you don't know it. By the way, the word I think you mean is "disingenuous." You need help in practically every subject.
 


Levirate marriage is a practice in the Bible where a man is required to marry the widow of his deceased brother if he has no children:

  • Deuteronomy 25:5–10: This passage in the Hebrew Bible describes the legal case of levirate marriage. It states that a man's brother is required to marry his widow if the man dies without children. The brother must father a child who will be considered the son of the deceased man.
  • Yibbum: The Hebrew term for levirate marriage is yibbum.
  • Halizah: If either party refuses to go through with the marriage, they must perform a ceremony called halizah to symbolically renounce the marriage.
  • Grave offense: Not performing the duty of a levir was considered a grave offense and resulted in stigmatization.
  • Protection of widows: The Mosaic law endorsed levirate marriage to protect young widows.
The Bible also includes two narratives related to levirate marriage:
    • Genesis 38
      Judah tries to prevent his daughter-in-law Tamar from marrying his last living son, which leads Tamar to seduce Judah.
    • Ruth Chapter 4
      Boaz marries Ruth the Moabite, the widow of Mahlon, to raise up the name of the dead in his inheritance.


    • Islamic Sharia in many ways is less strict than the Jewish-produced (concocted) Torah. The five-books falsely attributed to Moses, which does contain some genuine material from the original Torah (the law revealed to prophet Moses), but has been corrupted by Jewish writers, for political reasons.

welcome to the filth of islamo-nazi propaganda. Reality is that the woman HAS NO CHOICE---it is her father who contested the "right" of the dead husband's family to keep her imprisoned ---what the
disgusting propaganda piece does not mention is the fact that the woman who LEAVES, to live with and be ruled by her father----DOES NOT GET TO KEEP HER OWN CHILDREN---they BELONG to
the family of her dead husband----somehow this propaganda crap LEFT THAT FACT OUT. watta JOKE Give me another BS man
 
I'm sure if I go through several of your posts, I'll find some typos and misspellings. I've spelled disingenuous before, in previous posts, correctly. So now you're focused on typos? How pathetic. You arrogant, pretentious Jews are going to be seriously defeated by the Muslims. If it wasn't for the USA, fake-Israel wouldn't last a month. Your secular, ZIonNazi welfare state is going to be brought down to its knees by the Muslims.
oh gee-----more KHUTBAH JUMAAT BULL SHIT!!!!!!
 
Ah, it is irrelevant because you don't know it. By the way, the word I think you mean is "disingenuous." You need help in practically every subject.
It's irrelevant because it's irrelevant. I'm sure if I had the time and motivation to scan your posts, I would find typos/misspellings/grammatical mistakes..etc. Your position is so weak that all you have left is to criticize (fire shots at) your opponent's grammar. How pathetic.
 
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It's irrelevant because it's irrelevant. I'm sure if I had the time and motivation to scan your posts, I would find typos/misspellings/grammatical mistakes..etc. Your position is so weak that all you have left is to criticize your opponent's grammar. How pathetic.
actually---rosend does a fine job of debunking your
islamo-nazi bullshit----he does miss a few fine points of
the disgusting filth of shariah shit
 
Was the Jew from Judea, Jesus, born in Nazareth or Bethlehem?

(Both were JUDAEA under Romans' occupation)

Mary’s family was from Nazareth. They were fleeing when she gave birth, in Bethlehem or just outside of it( I doubt they had concrete city limit borders).
 
Jesus was born , not in Bethelem , but in a building about a kilometre south of the Qumran plateau .
He was born there because at the time of his birth he was officially classed as an illegitimate child .

Of course that wrecks the Cultist's Fairy Story .

The answer to that is to somehow get hold of the Dead Sea Scrolls , remove all trace of them and declare that reference to them is bogus .


That will have both Cult Christians and novice Hasbara Trolls foaming at the mouth and spitting blood .
Why would we care what he was “officially” labeled by corrupt officials?

The same people that convicted him of “blasphemy” and had him executed?
 
Mary’s family was from Nazareth. They were fleeing when she gave birth, in Bethlehem or just outside of it( I doubt they had concrete city limit borders).
they tended to have "GATES" which marked ---in and out. According to the NT---they were not FLEEING---they were going
back to Joseph's ancestral town which was BETHLEHEM-----if you want to buy into the idea that Mary was well into pregnancy and
would have gone to her mother's house to give birth (Like my
grandmother did in New York City) but somehow let Joseph talk
her into getting on a donkey for a long laborious trek so that she could accomplish her "lying in" in a stable (????). Try to face facts, it didn't happen
 
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Why would we care what he was “officially” labeled by corrupt officials?

The same people that convicted him of “blasphemy” and had him executed?
You are debating an imaginary history----something like the
Legends of the Rabbit in Jelly-bean school. PS---read the book
again---Jesus was not convicted of Blasphemy
 
It's irrelevant because it's irrelevant. I'm sure if I had the time and motivation to scan your posts, I would find typos/misspellings/grammatical mistakes..etc. Your position is so weak that all you have left is to criticize (fire shots at) your opponent's grammar. How pathetic.
All I have left? Hardly. But you have ignored the facts I presented so you think it is all about your lack of knowledge of English.
 
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they tended to have "GATES" which marked ---in and out. According to the NT---they were not FLEEING---they were going
back to Joseph's ancestral town which was BETHLEHEM-----if you want to buy into the idea that Mary was well into pregnancy and
would have gone to her mother's house to give birth (Like my
grandmother did in New York City) but somehow let Joseph talk
her into getting on a donkey for a long laborious trek so that she could accomplish her "lying in" in a stable (????). Try to face facts, it didn't happen
You are debating an imaginary history----something like the
Legends of the Rabbit in Jelly-bean school. PS---read the book
again---Jesus was not convicted of Blasphemy
I could care less what a little anti-Christ like yourself has to say on the matter.

You sound just like a Jew.
 
I could care less what a little anti-Christ like yourself has to say on the matter.

You sound just like a Jew.
I am a jew. "anti-christ"----could you define that term?
 

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