The Israeli Criminals Behind the NSA Spy Scandal

[eots]

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[SFC Ollie]

Oh my, I think I found a picture of Eots computer.....

 

[holston]

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[eots]

oh my, i think i found a picture of eots computer.....

dumb...

 

[daws101]

You mean those Muslims who attacked America on 9/11 were working for the Jews?
BTW, what thermite and cutter charges?

That's what the world would like to know...Of course there is zero physical evidence that they ever existed, and nothing to prove they did other than opinion ans conspiracy theories...

still waiting for the list of physical evidence used to support the NIST theory ollie...and btw..detonation charges would leave no visible trace..what is it you would expect to find without forensic testing ?

bullshit! detonated "explosive" charges leave obvious visible proof.
so would thermite...

 

[Jos]

You mean those Muslims who attacked America on 9/11 were working for the Jews?
BTW, what thermite and cutter charges?

Not at all.

There's more than one scenario that is possible given what the public has to go on.

The details of a crime are usually not determined until after it has been decided that a crime has been committed.
In the case of 9/11 a crime was clearly committed.

What has not been proven is who was behind it. The proof that 19 Arabs with boxcutters did it has never been forthcoming. In fact some of those who were on the original accused list were proven NOT to be.
A trial was never conducted and a verdict never rendered except the verdict which was passed down by the Bush administration and the Jewish media.


There is no doubt in my mind that there are many Muslims who would like to kill Israelis and even US citizens. It could be argued with good reason. The unconditional support of the US for Israel is reason enough for even those who are not extreme to want to get the attention of the US public.

Since the internet has came into existence the public is now able to see the other side of that story, the side which the US media has never presented.

As I pointed out earlier, why would Arabs, who were intelligent to circumvent the combined intelligence of US and Israel want to go through with such plan if they knew in advance that the probable outcome would make matters worse for the Islamic world than ever?

And what would Arabs be doing involving themselves in matters that involved Iraq and Afghanistan?


But for the sake of exploration, let's assume that there were Arabs who were clever enough and had the resources required to pull this off.

First of all, where did they get the financing and all the necessary intelligence information that would be needed to make it successful?

The media said, Bin Laden, right off the bat, even before the FBI or CIA had a chance to comment. And this was fed to the public by Jewish and Israeli spokesmen.
Aside from that, there were many things about Bin Laden which made his candidacy questionable, from the time the CIA set him up to fight the USSR to the failure of the assassination squad to produce a body.

I digress.

Given so many "Arabs" who would gladly take out a few Americans as revenge for supporting Israel, it would not be hard to find a few of them who would volunteer for the job, for anyone who had the resources and knew where to look.

Let's neglect for the moment the fact that the former CIA handle Susan Lindauer has already said that it is known that the hijackers were CIA assets.

Let us ask ourselves whether such a plan could be hatched by members of the Mossad or the CIA or the NSA as easily if not more so, than Bin Laden or someone like him. No one else was ever suggested. Given that PNAC was a known FACT (They've changed it's name since.) it seems MORE THAN likely that the idea occurred to some of them.

So why not use them in order to get what they wanted, which was to bring the brunt of the US military against Israel's enemies in the mid-east. And they could use Big Oil and the Bush family to take the blame while the Arabs would be the Patsies.
There is PLENTY of evidence that points in this direction. You simply DENY it. You know you can so long as no one in authority has the power to drag these people into court!
It would be a cinch to FACILITATE the plan, if not set the whole damned thing up. My guess is that some militant Muslims hatched the idea but that the plan was co-opted. It's success was guaranteed by people who were in positions to ALLOW it to happen. That is, they were in control of the "switching terminals" where certain channels could be opened or closed as needed. All those people would need in addition is aid of those who could give the necessary orders to be able to shut down any further inquiry. All that takes is big bucks.
Anyone who has participated in a scheme that resulted in the deaths of thousands would have ample reason to keep their mouths shut indefinitely.

Meanwhile back at the ranch, some Zionists who were sitting on the real estate in question were informed of what was in the works and took measures to capitalize on it. Whether they used organized crime or the Mossad to carry out the technical part or perhaps a little of both got in on the action is hard to say.

The connection to Bin Laden was never established. The US went to war in Afghanistan on the assumptions of the Bush administration. Those assumptions were never proven.
Similarly, the US public was fed information about WMDs in Iraq also which later proved to be unwarranted and probably exaggerated if not contrived. Never mind the fact that any chemical weapons that Hussein had were given to him BY THE US in order to fight against Iran.

Even the above "official" narrative of the reasons for the wars which have been waged for the past decade are based on nothing but speculation.

Where is YOUR proof for any of it?

You have none. Any "evidence" that you can muster is no less circumstantial than that which indicates controlled demolitions. And much of that could be called "hearsay".

So how can you insist that YOUR story, ie the one made up by the 9/11 Commission is the true one?


Where is YOUR description of all the DETAILS of how 9/11 was carried out?

We need you to tell us how ALL of this went down, from the conception of the plan to Bin Laden's denial of involvement.
While you are at it, you can tell us what happened to all the WMDs that were amassed in Iraq and where they are hiding now.

Tell us how news reporters were able to get interviews with Bin Laden when the CIA and all the King's men couldn't track hide nor hair of him.


Since you have the PROOF for the veracity of the 9/11 Commission Report, these other little items shouldn't be any problem for you to reveal to the rest of us.

Somehow, YOU , have gained access to all this inside information and, only YOU, and the "debunkers" are endowed with the intelligence to interpret it.

Given YOUR superior knowledge and connections, it baffles me how YOU and YOUR ILK can be so CONTEMPTUOUS of anyone who has doubts and openly expresses them.

YOU and YOUR KIND seem to prefer that the rest of us "morons" and "Nuts' should just keep our mouths such and quietly and obediently ACCEPT what YOU have to say about everything, ESPECIALLY when it comes to the unquestionable virtues of Israel and ALL Judaism.

Why is this?


Getting back to the original question; Is it possible that members of the Zionist elite could have decided that the open hostility of the Muslims against Israel and the US for the outdoor concentration camp imposed on them in Palestine could be used against them?

I believe that is possible.

Not only do I believe that, I think that something along those lines likely occurred.

Radical and militant Muslims could indeed have conjured up the idea of suicide attacks via hijacked air-lines.

That idea is IN FACT DECADES OLD> Which accentuates the LIE that Bush JR told when he said that "No one in his administration could have conceived of it."

Therefore we KNOW FOR A FACT that AT A BARE MINIMUM, some elements of US and Israeli intelligence had PRIOR knowledge of an impending attack.


Having this knowledge and failing to act upon it made all those who did COMPLICIT in the attack. In popular terms it is called a SIN OF OMISSION> such as the case when one is convicted of FAILING TO REPORT a known case of Child Abuse.

From this alone it is easy to see why it would be IMPERATIVE for all those who had this knowledge to avoid the PROOF of it becoming KNOWN to the public.

Not only would they need this to avoid being convicted of a crime, they would forever be remembered as complicit in the murder of thousands of American citizens as well as gross dereliction of duty, but also TREASON, not to mention all the PERJURY they have been guilty of and OBSTRUCTION of JUSTICE.


So even a MORON like YOURSELF and the de(full of) BUNK crowd ought to be able to SEE THIS MUCH.

Unless you are STUPID to the nth degree, and I don't think you are, that makes you fit the the description of HASBARA or a government DISINFORMATION agent. For all practical purposes you may as well be.

ALL your posts fit the profile perfectly. Your unswerving unquestioning support of ISRAEL and US Zionism fits the Zionist agenda right down the line, from your total glorification of Judiasm vs the total vilification of every Palestinian to your defense of the Zionist led 9/11 Commission .

I bet you're a defender of the Federal Reserve and think that subprime mortgage bundling is the best thing since hot cakes too.
Whoops I shouldn't have said that. Now you'll DENY IT.
Just like Jews DENY that they USE Blacks against the WASP establishment and that they have worked to "secure" OPEN BOARDERS for the US.

There's a list of such issues that one can use as indicators of who the Zionist socks are on these forums that one can use to identify them based on which side of the issue they come down on.
The only deviations from these positions are those taken which seem contrary in order to make it appear that the JEWISH ZIONIST POLITICAL FACTION are not unified under one common theme; "Is it good for the Jews."

A prime example of this would be Michael Weiner alias "Dr Savage" with his "Boarders, Language, and Culture" theme. The guy is an admitted ZIONIST and yet he would have all us Putzes believe that he gives a damn about the Western European , anything, so long as it isn't needed to sustain the Zionist PARASITE that is SUCKING the LIFE out the USA.

I love you too, Sock

Ever notice how hard the israeli-firsters deny any theory other than the official Govt. one, I don't have to wonder why

 

[SFC Ollie]

Actually, the Official Government theory is the only one that works.

I still love the way some of the CT'ers try to tie Iraq into it as a Motive....Too funny......

 

[Jos]

Cough, Afghanistan?

 

[eots]

That's what the world would like to know...Of course there is zero physical evidence that they ever existed, and nothing to prove they did other than opinion ans conspiracy theories...

still waiting for the list of physical evidence used to support the NIST theory ollie...and btw..detonation charges would leave no visible trace..what is it you would expect to find without forensic testing ?

bullshit! detonated "explosive" charges leave obvious visible proof.
so would thermite...

really ? and what specifically would this obvious physical proof look like ?

 

[Jos]

Actually, the Official Government theory is the only one that works.

I still love the way some of the CT'ers try to tie Iraq into it as a Motive....Too funny......

"One of the wilder stories circulating about Sept 11, and one that has attracted something of a cult following amongst conspiracy buffs is that it was carried out by 19 fanatical Arab hijackers, masterminded by an evil genius named Osama bin Laden, with no apparent motivation other than that they "hate our freedoms."

Never a group of people to be bothered by facts, the perpetrators of this cartoon fantasy have constructed an elaborately woven web of delusions and unsubstantiated hearsay in order to promote this garbage across the internet and the media to the extent that a number of otherwise rational people have actually fallen under its spell. Normally I don't even bother debunking this kind of junk, but the effect that this paranoid myth is beginning to have requires a little rational analysis, in order to consign it to the same rubbish bin as all such silly conspiracy theories.

These crackpots even contend that the extremist Bush regime was caught unawares by the attacks, had no hand in organizing them, and actually would have stopped them if it had been able. Blindly ignoring the stand-down of the US Air Force, the insider trading on airline stocks — linked to the CIA, the complicit behavior of Bush on the morning of the attacks, the controlled demolition of the WTC, the firing of a missile into the Pentagon and a host of other documented proofs that the Bush regime was behind the attacks, the conspiracy theorists stick doggedly to a silly story about 19 Arab hijackers somehow managing to commandeer 4 planes simultaneously and fly them around US airspace for nearly 2 hours, crashing them into important buildings, without the US intelligence services having any idea that it was coming, and without the Air Force knowing what to do."

"At a less serious time, we might tolerate such crackpots with amused detachment, but they need to understand that the treachery that was perpetrated on Sept 11, and the subsequent war crimes committed in "retaliation", are far too serious for us to allow such frivolous self-indulgence to go unchallenged."
Debunking Conspiracies 9/11 review

 

[daws101]

still waiting for the list of physical evidence used to support the NIST theory ollie...and btw..detonation charges would leave no visible trace..what is it you would expect to find without forensic testing ?

bullshit! detonated "explosive" charges leave obvious visible proof.
so would thermite...

really ? and what specifically would this obvious physical proof look like ?

we've been over this before... asked and answered..

 

[eots]

bullshit! detonated "explosive" charges leave obvious visible proof.
so would thermite...

really ? and what specifically would this obvious physical proof look like ?

we've been over this before... asked and answered..

lol..No you have not..clearly this is your flailing attempt to avoid a question you can not answer...lol...what a pathetic clown

 

[SFC Ollie]

Actually, the Official Government theory is the only one that works.

I still love the way some of the CT'ers try to tie Iraq into it as a Motive....Too funny......

"One of the wilder stories circulating about Sept 11, and one that has attracted something of a cult following amongst conspiracy buffs is that it was carried out by 19 fanatical Arab hijackers, masterminded by an evil genius named Osama bin Laden, with no apparent motivation other than that they "hate our freedoms."

Never a group of people to be bothered by facts, the perpetrators of this cartoon fantasy have constructed an elaborately woven web of delusions and unsubstantiated hearsay in order to promote this garbage across the internet and the media to the extent that a number of otherwise rational people have actually fallen under its spell. Normally I don't even bother debunking this kind of junk, but the effect that this paranoid myth is beginning to have requires a little rational analysis, in order to consign it to the same rubbish bin as all such silly conspiracy theories.

These crackpots even contend that the extremist Bush regime was caught unawares by the attacks, had no hand in organizing them, and actually would have stopped them if it had been able. Blindly ignoring the stand-down of the US Air Force, the insider trading on airline stocks — linked to the CIA, the complicit behavior of Bush on the morning of the attacks, the controlled demolition of the WTC, the firing of a missile into the Pentagon and a host of other documented proofs that the Bush regime was behind the attacks, the conspiracy theorists stick doggedly to a silly story about 19 Arab hijackers somehow managing to commandeer 4 planes simultaneously and fly them around US airspace for nearly 2 hours, crashing them into important buildings, without the US intelligence services having any idea that it was coming, and without the Air Force knowing what to do."

"At a less serious time, we might tolerate such crackpots with amused detachment, but they need to understand that the treachery that was perpetrated on Sept 11, and the subsequent war crimes committed in "retaliation", are far too serious for us to allow such frivolous self-indulgence to go unchallenged."
Debunking Conspiracies 9/11 review

Do you have any Idea how much of this has been debunked at least 100 times just on this board, let alone throughout the internet and the real world... Your assumptions are lies and your timing is so far off that if not tragic it would be laughable..... Do at least make some type of attempt to be taken seriously...

 

[SFC Ollie]

still waiting for the list of physical evidence used to support the NIST theory ollie...and btw..detonation charges would leave no visible trace..what is it you would expect to find without forensic testing ?

bullshit! detonated "explosive" charges leave obvious visible proof.
so would thermite...

really ? and what specifically would this obvious physical proof look like ?

 

[eots]

bullshit! detonated "explosive" charges leave obvious visible proof.
so would thermite...

really ? and what specifically would this obvious physical proof look like ?

lol...that before it explodes lil ollie we are talking about after the fact....fail

 

[eots]

FIRE AND EXPLOSION INVESTIGATIONS AND FORENSIC ANALYSES:
NEAR- AND LONG-TERM NEEDS ASSESSMENT
FOR STATE AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT
A REPORT FOR THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF JUSTICE (NIJ)


Preface
Among the various types of criminal investigations and the varied specialties for forensic
analyses, crimes associated with arson and explosions are sometimes the most difficult
to process and analyze. The inherent destructiveness of the events often compromise
much of the evidence left behind. Ignitable liquids and many individual chemical
compounds are found as contaminants in various matrices from a fire scene. The
residues produced from the complete reaction of explosives are often gases. Those,
which are not gases, are often so common that their presence is not meaningful.

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/225085.pdf

 

[SFC Ollie]

really ? and what specifically would this obvious physical proof look like ?

lol...that before it explodes lil ollie we are talking about after the fact....fail

Yes, we know that, but since there were no pieces of anything even closely resembling a charge found then I feel confident in stating that there were no charges....And that is why no pieces of these things were found. because they were never there.........

 

[SFC Ollie]

So Eots is now telling us that not only did they blow up the building but they blew up all proof that they blew up the buildings...

Makes it rather convenient I'd say......

 

[SFC Ollie]

So Eots is now telling us that not only did they blow up the building but they blew up all proof that they blew up the buildings...

Makes it rather convenient I'd say......

 

[daws101]

really ? and what specifically would this obvious physical proof look like ?

we've been over this before... asked and answered..

lol..No you have not..clearly this is your flailing attempt to avoid a question you can not answer...lol...what a pathetic clown

the one who's flailing ,as always is you..
you "question" has been answered countless times....you just don't like the answer.