Zone1 The Handmaid's Tale: A Perversion of Christianity

[Hafar1014]

You can see several of them posting in this thread. They are hammers looking for nails and have an ax to grind with Christians. It's quite sad.

That is a great analogy very effective writing.

 

[citygator]

I began watching The Handmaid's Tale recently (yes, I'm late to the series). I have always loved dystopian stories, and this one features great storytelling and world-building.

But Gilead is a perversion of Christianity, and uses the faith only as a tool to control society.

Notably in season one is the use of fertile handmaids to give wives babies. To justify this, Gilead quotes the Old Testament women who had their husbands sleep with their servants in order to give them children.

But the flaw is this: just because the Bible RECORDS it doesn't mean the Bible ENDORSES it. Nowhere did God give this decree, which is adultery. The idea stemmed solely from desperate women. Once the deed is done, God can use sinful people and even sinful actions to His end. But He did not either command or endorse the sin.

This fallacy of recording vs. endorsing is all over the series, such as when the Commanders visit the Jezebels. Again, yes, there are prostitutes recorded in the Bible. Nowhere does God endorse it.

Still, we have mainly Leftist women dressing in handmaid's garb to "fight the patriarchy", often citing Christianity as the patriarchal foe. I would say, hey, Tehran is sitting right over here.....

Handmaiden's tale is a story about people using religion to force their power on other people. It's not a critique of religion but of those who use it for their own power.

The story is of a group of leaders that create a theocratic regime where, religious texts are selectively interpreted, those interpretations are used to control women’s bodies, roles, and rights. Power is concentrated among a small ruling class (Commanders and their families)

Religion isn’t just a belief, it’s used as:

• Justification (“this is God’s will”)
• Enforcement mechanism (rituals, laws, punishments)
• Social control (limiting literacy, autonomy, identity)

 

[Hafar1014]

Handmaiden's tale is a story about people using religion to force their power on other people. It's not a critique of religion but of those who use it for their own power.

The story is of a group of leaders that create a theocratic regime where, religious texts are selectively interpreted, those interpretations are used to control women’s bodies, roles, and rights. Power is concentrated among a small ruling class (Commanders and their families)

Religion isn’t just a belief, it’s used as:

• Justification (“this is God’s will”)
• Enforcement mechanism (rituals, laws, punishments)
• Social control (limiting literacy, autonomy, identity)

You have that right its an anti Christian passion play.

 

[ding]

TN has an old law that husbands can legally beat their wives on the courthouse steps on Sunday. Guess what group of religious people made that law.
HINT: It wasnt muzzies.

It's funny that you only recognize America as Christian nation when it suits your purpose. Every other time you deny America's Christianity.

 

[ding]

If you're trying to equate a situation where an obsolete law is completely superceded by more recent laws that would put a man in prison for beating his wife with a situation where women still are, to this day, beaten for walking in public without a male relative or for allowing their hair or an ankle to be visible, I can't help you.

Again, the question is, why are western feminists outraged at faux oppression and utterly silent on actual oppression?

It's worse than that. He is trying to turn a SECULAR law into a CHRISTIAN law. I guess he forgot about the establishment clause in the Constitution.

 

[martybegan]

Handmaiden's tale is a story about people using religion to force their power on other people. It's not a critique of religion but of those who use it for their own power.

The story is of a group of leaders that create a theocratic regime where, religious texts are selectively interpreted, those interpretations are used to control women’s bodies, roles, and rights. Power is concentrated among a small ruling class (Commanders and their families)

Religion isn’t just a belief, it’s used as:

• Justification (“this is God’s will”)
• Enforcement mechanism (rituals, laws, punishments)
• Social control (limiting literacy, autonomy, identity)

All of which we see in Islam in its multiple hard line implementations in our current world.

 

[ding]

The whole point of Christianity is control. Thats they they created original sin hell and devil. To force obedience or you burn in hell.
The Bible is an allegory.

The primary purpose of Christianity is to reconcile humanity with God through faith in Jesus Christ, offering salvation, forgiveness of sins, and the promise of eternal life. It focuses on fostering a personal relationship with God, conforming believers to the image of Christ, and loving others through service.

Reconciling humans to God, overcoming the separation caused by sin through Jesus' death and resurrection. Cultivating a personal, daily relationship with God through the Holy Spirit rather than just adhering to rules. Being transformed into the likeness of Christ (sanctification) and living righteously, which includes love for others. Living in a way that reflects God's glory and makes his worth known.

I can see why you believe Christianity is so horrible.

 

[ding]

Juts be good person and help humaity raise good kids have a life with meaning and youll be just fine

So loving God doesn't make your list?

 

[ding]

That is a great analogy very effective writing.

The truth usually hurts before it helps.

 

[ding]

Its an allegory with the exception of Leviticus which is civil law.

So Joshua, Judges, Ruth, 1 & 2 Samuel, 1 & 2 Kings, 1 & 2 Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah, and Esther are not historical books? They are allegory?

You tell it like you think it is but in fact isnt.

No. That would be you. You are chock full of disinformation such as your ridiculous statement that everything in the OT is allegory except Leviticus.

 

[TNHarley]

The whole point of Christianity is control. Thats they they created original sin hell and devil. To force obedience or you burn in hell.
The Bible is an allegory.

Lol what about all those stories in the Torah? Those were designed to instill fear. Meaning obedience.
Even some of your barbaric laws were. Even for children. Like sending your bad kids to the town elders to have them killed.

 

[citygator]

Misuse of Christianity doesnt make it bad no more than a drunk driver makes a car bad.

 

[ding]

Misuse of Christianity doesnt make it bad no more than a drunk driver makes a car bad.

Religion is a tool. It is neither good or bad. It's how it is used.

 

[Hafar1014]

Lol what about all those stories in the Torah? Those were designed to instill fear. Meaning obedience.
Even some of your barbaric laws were. Even for children. Like sending your bad kids to the town elders to have them killed.

The message of Genesis is free will plus morals. There is no hell or threat to believe. We must choose to believe. These are allegories not literal. Jews were the first tos top animal sacrifices we dont send children to be killed. Thats what Muslims do

 

[Hafar1014]

Religion is a tool. It is neither good or bad. It's how it is used.

So Joshua, Judges, Ruth, 1 & 2 Samuel, 1 & 2 Kings, 1 & 2 Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah, and Esther are not historical books? They are allegory?

No. That would be you. You are chock full of disinformation such as your ridiculous statement that everything in the OT is allegory except Leviticus.

They are all allegories that are based on actual history but allegorical.

 

[ding]

They are all allegories that are based on actual history but allegorical.

How can "actual" history be allegorical?

 

[Hafar1014]

How can "actual" history be allegorical?

I see you never took an English lit course in graduate school. Remember I said you have a concreate mind

 

[TNHarley]

Jews were the first tos top animal sacrifices

Because of the Romans. You guys didnt just stop it. You had no choice.
And if you sit there and act like Jews dont want to go back to that barbaric atonement practice, you are lying.

we dont send children to be killed.

Its your laws dude. Take it up with your Torah.

As I said previously, that you failed to comment on, was that your religion does the same thing.

 

[ding]

I see you never took an English lit course in graduate school. Remember I said you have a concreate mind

That isn't showing me how Joshua, Judges, Ruth, 1 & 2 Samuel, 1 & 2 Kings, 1 & 2 Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah, and Esther are not historical books. Where do you believe your response falls on this matrix?

 

[ding]

I see you never took an English lit course in graduate school.

My degree is in engineering. Why would anyone take an English literature course in graduate school unless they were getting a masters in English Literature?