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[fncceo]

Do you quote the Talmud to prove Jewish traditions

I don't need to prove anything. Unlike you, I don't need to spread my beliefs so I can feel better about myself.

I don't care if you believe in Judaism. In fact, I feel much better if you don't.


Oh, just to educated you a little, Talmud is commentary and law ... not scripture.

If you're going to hate something, at least learn what it is you hate. Otherwise, you just look lazy.

 

[LittleNipper]

View attachment 474513
The MESSIAH/CHRIST I'm referring to is the only one who fits both of these genealogies. None of the others can.

Matthew is a walking contradiction perhaps proving the sinister hands of Rome involved?
On one hand it places this character's birth and lineage in all the HARLOTS of the Bible.
Matthew mentions four sinful harlot women of the bible conveniently and coincidentally in the Joseph genealogy:
1) (Genesis 38:12-19) Tamar who was the one who disguised herself as a harlot to seduce her father-in-law Judah.
2) (Joshua 2:1) Rahab who was a harlot living in the city of Jericho. And note wasn’t even of Jewish lineage, she was a Canaanite. The creators of the legend/image icon in trying to create his lineage and plagiarizing the OT goofed this one big time.
3) (Ruth 3:1-14) Ruth who was the one through her mother-in-law Naomi's request, came secretly to where Boaz was sleeping and spent the night with him. Later Ruth and Boaz were married.
4) (2 Samuel 11:2-5) Bathsheba was the controversial one who became pregnant by King David while she was still married to Uriah.
Yet on the other hand Matthew as in other references show that Joseph isn't the actual birth parent.
In Matthew 1:19 he states Joseph didn't want to expose her to public disgrace, so he had a mind to divorce her (Mary) quietly (as to not get her stoned).
This makes that video street proselytizer & your christ the 100bc harlot Mary's child who had Yeshu from an affair with a Roman soldier named Pandera(s) thus aptly called Yeshu ben Pandera(s).
This is why John of Patmos warns of
"the Harlot church" -aptly nicknamed for sleeping with all kingdoms & pushing it's harlot queen mother's christ child who they place through all the harlots lineage, even though the Torah specifically warns such a bastard child would not be allowed in the Temple.-(Deut)
Sources:
Sources for the history of (Yeshu) Jesus: philosopher Celsus (178 CE) Christian writer Epiphanius (c.320-403 CE), the Christian apologist Origen (c.185-254 CE) Within the Talmud Shabbos 104, the gemara explicitly discusses the mother being Stada and the father being Pandera. Jerusalem Talmud (Avodah Zerah II 40d)and in the Tosefta on Hullin II, and (Sanhedrin 43a & 67a). This story is further expanded upon in the Tosefta and Baraitas.
2 accounts:
-Dr. Franz Hartman -
& Gerald Massey's Lectures Originally published in a private edition c. 1900


According to the Babylonian Gemara to the Mishna of Tract "Shabbath," this Jehoshua, the son of Pandira and Stada, was stoned to death as a wizard, in the city of Lud, or Lydda,

Jesus ben Stada (or Pandera) was placedin the time period of about 90 B.C. in Lydda, a town Peter is said tohave visited in ACTS.interestingly the early church father Epiphanius around 400 said Pandera was the grandfather of Jesus.

Matthew 13:55
Modern Translations
New International Version
"Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother's name Mary, and aren't his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas?

New Living Translation
Then they scoffed, “He’s just the carpenter’s son, and we know Mary, his mother, and his brothers—James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas.

English Standard Version
Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not his mother called Mary? And are not his brothers James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?

Berean Study Bible
“Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t His mother’s name Mary, and aren’t His brothers James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas?

New American Standard Bible
Is this not the carpenter’s son? Is His mother not called Mary, and His brothers, James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas?

NASB 1995
"Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?

NASB 1977
“Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?

Amplified Bible
Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary? And are not His brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?

Christian Standard Bible
Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother called Mary, and his brothers James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas?

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't His mother called Mary, and His brothers James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas?

Contemporary English Version
Isn't he the son of the carpenter? Isn't Mary his mother, and aren't James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas his brothers?

Good News Translation
Isn't he the carpenter's son? Isn't Mary his mother, and aren't James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas his brothers?

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother's name Mary? Aren't his brothers' names James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas?

International Standard Version
This is the builder's son, isn't it? His mother is named Mary, isn't she? His brothers are James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas, aren't they?

NET Bible
Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother named Mary? And aren't his brothers James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas?
Classic Translations
King James Bible
Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

New King James Version
Is this not the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary? And His brothers James, Joses, Simon, and Judas?

King James 2000 Bible
Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brothers, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

New Heart English Bible
Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary, and his brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?

World English Bible
Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother called Mary, and his brothers, James, Joses, Simon, and Judas?

American King James Version
Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brothers, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

American Standard Version
Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joseph, and Simon, and Judas?

A Faithful Version
Is this not the carpenter's son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers James and Joses and Simon and Judas?

Darby Bible Translation
Is not this the son of the carpenter? Is not his mother called Mary, and his brethren James, and Joseph, and Simon, and Judas?

English Revised Version
Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joseph, and Simon, and Judas?

Webster's Bible Translation
Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

Early Modern
Geneva Bible of 1587
Is not this the carpenters sonne? Is not his mother called Marie, and his brethren Iames and Ioses, and Simon and Iudas?

Bishops' Bible of 1568
Is not this the carpenters sonne? Is not his mother called Marie? and his brethren, Iames, and Ioses, and Simon, and Iudas?

Coverdale Bible of 1535
Is not this the carpeters sonne? Is not his mother called Mary? and his brethre Iames & Ioses, and Symon and Iude?

Tyndale Bible of 1526
Is not this the carpeters sonne? Is not his mother called Mary? and his brethre be called Iames and Ioses and Simo and Iudas?
Literal Translations
Literal Standard Version
Is this not the carpenter’s Son? Is His mother not called Mary, and His brothers James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

Berean Literal Bible
Is this not the son of the carpenter? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?

Young's Literal Translation
is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary, and his brethren James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

Smith's Literal Translation
Is not this the son of the carpenter? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

Catholic Translations
Douay-Rheims Bible
Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary, and his brethren James, and Joseph, and Simon, and Jude:

Catholic Public Domain Version
Is this not the son of a workman? Is not his mother called Mary, and his brothers, James, and Joseph, and Simon, and Jude?

Translations from Aramaic
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
“Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Maryam, and his brothers, Yaqob and Yose and Shimeon and Yehudah?”

Lamsa Bible
Is he not the carpenter’s son? Is not his mother called Mary? and his brothers, James and Joses and Simon and Judah?

NT Translations
Anderson New Testament
Is not this the son of the carpenter? Is not his mother called Mary? and his brothers, James and Joses and Simon and Judas?

Godbey New Testament
Is not He the son of the carpenter? is not His mother called Mary? are not His brothers, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

Haweis New Testament
Is not this the carpenter?s son? is not his mother called Mary? his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

Mace New Testament
is not this the carpenter's son? is not Mary his mother? and James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas, are they not his brothers?

Weymouth New Testament
Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary? And are not his brothers, James, Joseph, Simon and Judah?

Worrell New Testament
Is not This the carpenter's Son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers, James, and Joseph, and Simon, and Judas?

Worsley New Testament
Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

That is describing the 100bc christ as I said.
The Galilean tax revolter christ was probably the fisherman unless that was the Christ by the Jordan in thr Pilate era that was a fisherman.

It is not. It is peculiar how people are. When Jesus CHRIST lived here on earth, many of the religious leaders of the area said Jesus performed HIS miracles by way of Beelzebub and that Jesus was a wine bibber. When Jesus CHRIST was crucified they jeered HIM to come down from the cross. When Jesus CHRIST arose from the grave, they put forth the lie that HE was stolen by HIS disciples.
Today, these same sort of individuals, first try to say Jesus CHRIST never existed, and when that didn't work they say that there were a bunch of "christs"... When they read without knowing the source direct quotes from both the Old & New Testament, they say what a wonderful person; however, when they realize that the text refers to JESUS CHRIST, they choke and don't want to hear it or seek excuses. I guess it is simply fallen human nature...

 

[fncceo]

When Jesus CHRIST was crucified they jeered HIM to come down from the cross.

He didn't.

 

[LittleNipper]

Do you quote the Talmud to prove Jewish traditions

I don't need to prove anything. Unlike you, I don't need to spread my beliefs so I can feel better about myself.

I don't care if you believe in Judaism. In fact, I feel much better if you don't.


Oh, just to educated you a little, Talmud is commentary and law ... not scripture.

If you're going to hate something, at least learn what it is you hate. Otherwise, you just look lazy.

I don't spread my beliefs to feel better about myself. Jesus commanded that HIS followers are to spread the GOSPEL message. Of what good is Judaism if it doesn't save the lost? And is "YOUR" GOD happy when you cease to care about those outside your traditions? I do know that the Talmud is a commentary and law in an attempt to appease GOD and define GOD's law so that you might feel good about yourself ability to follow them.

 

[LittleNipper]

When Jesus CHRIST was crucified they jeered HIM to come down from the cross.

He didn't.

If HE was to be the final ultimate sacrifice for sin, HE couldn't.

 

[surada]

When Jesus CHRIST was crucified they jeered HIM to come down from the cross.

He didn't.

If HE was to be the final ultimate sacrifice for sin, HE couldn't.

Are you trying to make Judaism wrong?

 

[LittleNipper]

When Jesus CHRIST was crucified they jeered HIM to come down from the cross.

He didn't.

If HE was to be the final ultimate sacrifice for sin, HE couldn't.

Are you trying to make Judaism wrong?

I fully believe that Biblical CHRISTIANITY is the fulfillment of an Orthodox Judaism. The MESSIAH fulfilled everything and completes the LAW. Are you attempting to make Christianity wrong? Are there Jews who wish to rebuild the Temple after 2000 years. I know it will happen. It is prophetic. SO, why so is it (your temple) necessary after all this time? And what does that mean for all those who died in the meantime? I know it will play a part in the end times. The Bible says so. Everyone needs a Savior. NO ONE EVER MERITED ETERNAL LIFE TRYING TO KEEP THE LAW. The purpose of the LAW was to demonstrate our need for GOD's SALVATION.

 

[surada]

When Jesus CHRIST was crucified they jeered HIM to come down from the cross.

He didn't.

If HE was to be the final ultimate sacrifice for sin, HE couldn't.

Are you trying to make Judaism wrong?

I fully believe that Biblical CHRISTIANITY is the fulfillment of an Orthodox Judaism. The MESSIAH fulfilled everything and completes the LAW. Are you attempting to make Christianity wrong? Are there Jews who wish to rebuild the Temple after 2000 years. I know it will happen. It is prophetic. SO, why so is it (your temple) necessary after all this time? And what does that mean for all those who died in the meantime? I know it will play a part in the end times. The Bible says so. Everyone needs a Savior. NO ONE EVER MERITED ETERNAL LIFE TRYING TO KEEP THE LAW. The purpose of the LAW was to demonstrate our need for GOD's SALVATION.

Revelation says there is no Temple. Futuristic end times teaching is a function of Scofield and the fundamentalists. The scripture is about the first century and the end of temple Judaism.

One problem is trying to impose Revelation on modern countries like the US or Russia.

As for Jewish beliefs.. I think we should respect them. You don't have to convert to Judaism, but you should NOT denigrate their beliefs.

 

[HaShev]

View attachment 474513
The MESSIAH/CHRIST I'm referring to is the only one who fits both of these genealogies. None of the others can.

Matthew is a walking contradiction perhaps proving the sinister hands of Rome involved?
On one hand it places this character's birth and lineage in all the HARLOTS of the Bible.
Matthew mentions four sinful harlot women of the bible conveniently and coincidentally in the Joseph genealogy:
1) (Genesis 38:12-19) Tamar who was the one who disguised herself as a harlot to seduce her father-in-law Judah.
2) (Joshua 2:1) Rahab who was a harlot living in the city of Jericho. And note wasn’t even of Jewish lineage, she was a Canaanite. The creators of the legend/image icon in trying to create his lineage and plagiarizing the OT goofed this one big time.
3) (Ruth 3:1-14) Ruth who was the one through her mother-in-law Naomi's request, came secretly to where Boaz was sleeping and spent the night with him. Later Ruth and Boaz were married.
4) (2 Samuel 11:2-5) Bathsheba was the controversial one who became pregnant by King David while she was still married to Uriah.
Yet on the other hand Matthew as in other references show that Joseph isn't the actual birth parent.
In Matthew 1:19 he states Joseph didn't want to expose her to public disgrace, so he had a mind to divorce her (Mary) quietly (as to not get her stoned).
This makes that video street proselytizer & your christ the 100bc harlot Mary's child who had Yeshu from an affair with a Roman soldier named Pandera(s) thus aptly called Yeshu ben Pandera(s).
This is why John of Patmos warns of
"the Harlot church" -aptly nicknamed for sleeping with all kingdoms & pushing it's harlot queen mother's christ child who they place through all the harlots lineage, even though the Torah specifically warns such a bastard child would not be allowed in the Temple.-(Deut)
Sources:
Sources for the history of (Yeshu) Jesus: philosopher Celsus (178 CE) Christian writer Epiphanius (c.320-403 CE), the Christian apologist Origen (c.185-254 CE) Within the Talmud Shabbos 104, the gemara explicitly discusses the mother being Stada and the father being Pandera. Jerusalem Talmud (Avodah Zerah II 40d)and in the Tosefta on Hullin II, and (Sanhedrin 43a & 67a). This story is further expanded upon in the Tosefta and Baraitas.
2 accounts:
-Dr. Franz Hartman -
& Gerald Massey's Lectures Originally published in a private edition c. 1900


According to the Babylonian Gemara to the Mishna of Tract "Shabbath," this Jehoshua, the son of Pandira and Stada, was stoned to death as a wizard, in the city of Lud, or Lydda,

Jesus ben Stada (or Pandera) was placedin the time period of about 90 B.C. in Lydda, a town Peter is said tohave visited in ACTS.interestingly the early church father Epiphanius around 400 said Pandera was the grandfather of Jesus.

Matthew 13:55
Modern Translations
New International Version
"Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother's name Mary, and aren't his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas?

New Living Translation
Then they scoffed, “He’s just the carpenter’s son, and we know Mary, his mother, and his brothers—James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas.

English Standard Version
Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not his mother called Mary? And are not his brothers James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?

Berean Study Bible
“Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t His mother’s name Mary, and aren’t His brothers James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas?

New American Standard Bible
Is this not the carpenter’s son? Is His mother not called Mary, and His brothers, James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas?

NASB 1995
"Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?

NASB 1977
“Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?

Amplified Bible
Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary? And are not His brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?

Christian Standard Bible
Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother called Mary, and his brothers James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas?

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't His mother called Mary, and His brothers James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas?

Contemporary English Version
Isn't he the son of the carpenter? Isn't Mary his mother, and aren't James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas his brothers?

Good News Translation
Isn't he the carpenter's son? Isn't Mary his mother, and aren't James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas his brothers?

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother's name Mary? Aren't his brothers' names James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas?

International Standard Version
This is the builder's son, isn't it? His mother is named Mary, isn't she? His brothers are James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas, aren't they?

NET Bible
Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother named Mary? And aren't his brothers James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas?
Classic Translations
King James Bible
Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

New King James Version
Is this not the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary? And His brothers James, Joses, Simon, and Judas?

King James 2000 Bible
Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brothers, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

New Heart English Bible
Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary, and his brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?

World English Bible
Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother called Mary, and his brothers, James, Joses, Simon, and Judas?

American King James Version
Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brothers, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

American Standard Version
Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joseph, and Simon, and Judas?

A Faithful Version
Is this not the carpenter's son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers James and Joses and Simon and Judas?

Darby Bible Translation
Is not this the son of the carpenter? Is not his mother called Mary, and his brethren James, and Joseph, and Simon, and Judas?

English Revised Version
Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joseph, and Simon, and Judas?

Webster's Bible Translation
Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

Early Modern
Geneva Bible of 1587
Is not this the carpenters sonne? Is not his mother called Marie, and his brethren Iames and Ioses, and Simon and Iudas?

Bishops' Bible of 1568
Is not this the carpenters sonne? Is not his mother called Marie? and his brethren, Iames, and Ioses, and Simon, and Iudas?

Coverdale Bible of 1535
Is not this the carpeters sonne? Is not his mother called Mary? and his brethre Iames & Ioses, and Symon and Iude?

Tyndale Bible of 1526
Is not this the carpeters sonne? Is not his mother called Mary? and his brethre be called Iames and Ioses and Simo and Iudas?
Literal Translations
Literal Standard Version
Is this not the carpenter’s Son? Is His mother not called Mary, and His brothers James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

Berean Literal Bible
Is this not the son of the carpenter? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?

Young's Literal Translation
is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary, and his brethren James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

Smith's Literal Translation
Is not this the son of the carpenter? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

Catholic Translations
Douay-Rheims Bible
Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary, and his brethren James, and Joseph, and Simon, and Jude:

Catholic Public Domain Version
Is this not the son of a workman? Is not his mother called Mary, and his brothers, James, and Joseph, and Simon, and Jude?

Translations from Aramaic
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
“Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Maryam, and his brothers, Yaqob and Yose and Shimeon and Yehudah?”

Lamsa Bible
Is he not the carpenter’s son? Is not his mother called Mary? and his brothers, James and Joses and Simon and Judah?

NT Translations
Anderson New Testament
Is not this the son of the carpenter? Is not his mother called Mary? and his brothers, James and Joses and Simon and Judas?

Godbey New Testament
Is not He the son of the carpenter? is not His mother called Mary? are not His brothers, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

Haweis New Testament
Is not this the carpenter?s son? is not his mother called Mary? his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

Mace New Testament
is not this the carpenter's son? is not Mary his mother? and James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas, are they not his brothers?

Weymouth New Testament
Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary? And are not his brothers, James, Joseph, Simon and Judah?

Worrell New Testament
Is not This the carpenter's Son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers, James, and Joseph, and Simon, and Judas?

Worsley New Testament
Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

That is describing the 100bc christ as I said.
The Galilean tax revolter christ was probably the fisherman unless that was the Christ by the Jordan in thr Pilate era that was a fisherman.

It is not. It is peculiar how people are. When Jesus CHRIST lived here on earth, many of the religious leaders of the area said Jesus performed HIS miracles by way of Beelzebub and that Jesus was a wine bibber. When Jesus CHRIST was crucified they jeered HIM to come down from the cross. When Jesus CHRIST arose from the grave, they put forth the lie that HE was stolen by HIS disciples.
Today, these same sort of individuals, first try to say Jesus CHRIST never existed, and when that didn't work they say that there were a bunch of "christs"... When they read without knowing the source direct quotes from both the Old & New Testament, they say what a wonderful person; however, when they realize that the text refers to JESUS CHRIST, they choke and don't want to hear it or seek excuses. I guess it is simply fallen human nature...

Wrong:
Yeshu son of Mary of 100bc died by stoning (slew) and hanging (on a tree) which is what your nt says in a few verses. He was the one punished by the elect for breaking laws of that age about sorcery maggi trick scams much like what made Benny Hinn have to move from Fl during the psychic hotline scam laws. He was teaching forbidden death cult worship (from Egypt) and forbidden necromancer.
The Galilean christ is the one who died by crucifixion (so did his 2 sons), by the hands of Rome for his tax revolt and yeah people hated him because his group of rebels according to Josephus would rob and burn people's houses for paying the tax- sort of an early age version of Antifa. The band of thieves got Jews in trouble with Rome. The Pilate era christ by the Jordan river also was crucified for revolting against Rome by Rome, eventually he too caused many Jews to die and be displaced, so hate for him came after the cause and affect. Of course Rome will favor the 1 christ son of Mary because
A) he was half Roman
And B) he wasn't a revolter against Rome his sect revolted against the Jewish King Jannaeus Alexander
And C)his death they could blame the elect to demonize their opposition and displace blame for killing the other christs used in the creation of his image.
This is why there is 2 blames and two methods of sentencing to death. It's also why you have traditions saying he died at age 33 while John says closer to 50.

 

[DudleySmith]

When Jesus CHRIST was crucified they jeered HIM to come down from the cross.

He didn't.

If HE was to be the final ultimate sacrifice for sin, HE couldn't.

Are you trying to make Judaism wrong?

I fully believe that Biblical CHRISTIANITY is the fulfillment of an Orthodox Judaism. The MESSIAH fulfilled everything and completes the LAW. Are you attempting to make Christianity wrong? Are there Jews who wish to rebuild the Temple after 2000 years. I know it will happen. It is prophetic. SO, why so is it (your temple) necessary after all this time? And what does that mean for all those who died in the meantime? I know it will play a part in the end times. The Bible says so. Everyone needs a Savior. NO ONE EVER MERITED ETERNAL LIFE TRYING TO KEEP THE LAW. The purpose of the LAW was to demonstrate our need for GOD's SALVATION.

"Chrisitanity is Judaism completed."- Benjamin Disraeli.

 

[fncceo]

Jesus commanded that HIS followers are to spread the GOSPEL message.

As long as we're quoting fictional characters, Yoda told me you're crazy as an outhouse rat.

 

[DudleySmith]

View attachment 474513
The MESSIAH/CHRIST I'm referring to is the only one who fits both of these genealogies. None of the others can.

Matthew is a walking contradiction perhaps proving the sinister hands of Rome involved?
On one hand it places this character's birth and lineage in all the HARLOTS of the Bible.
Matthew mentions four sinful harlot women of the bible conveniently and coincidentally in the Joseph genealogy:
1) (Genesis 38:12-19) Tamar who was the one who disguised herself as a harlot to seduce her father-in-law Judah.
2) (Joshua 2:1) Rahab who was a harlot living in the city of Jericho. And note wasn’t even of Jewish lineage, she was a Canaanite. The creators of the legend/image icon in trying to create his lineage and plagiarizing the OT goofed this one big time.
3) (Ruth 3:1-14) Ruth who was the one through her mother-in-law Naomi's request, came secretly to where Boaz was sleeping and spent the night with him. Later Ruth and Boaz were married.
4) (2 Samuel 11:2-5) Bathsheba was the controversial one who became pregnant by King David while she was still married to Uriah.
Yet on the other hand Matthew as in other references show that Joseph isn't the actual birth parent.
In Matthew 1:19 he states Joseph didn't want to expose her to public disgrace, so he had a mind to divorce her (Mary) quietly (as to not get her stoned).
This makes that video street proselytizer & your christ the 100bc harlot Mary's child who had Yeshu from an affair with a Roman soldier named Pandera(s) thus aptly called Yeshu ben Pandera(s).
This is why John of Patmos warns of
"the Harlot church" -aptly nicknamed for sleeping with all kingdoms & pushing it's harlot queen mother's christ child who they place through all the harlots lineage, even though the Torah specifically warns such a bastard child would not be allowed in the Temple.-(Deut)
Sources:
Sources for the history of (Yeshu) Jesus: philosopher Celsus (178 CE) Christian writer Epiphanius (c.320-403 CE), the Christian apologist Origen (c.185-254 CE) Within the Talmud Shabbos 104, the gemara explicitly discusses the mother being Stada and the father being Pandera. Jerusalem Talmud (Avodah Zerah II 40d)and in the Tosefta on Hullin II, and (Sanhedrin 43a & 67a). This story is further expanded upon in the Tosefta and Baraitas.
2 accounts:
-Dr. Franz Hartman -
& Gerald Massey's Lectures Originally published in a private edition c. 1900


According to the Babylonian Gemara to the Mishna of Tract "Shabbath," this Jehoshua, the son of Pandira and Stada, was stoned to death as a wizard, in the city of Lud, or Lydda,

Jesus ben Stada (or Pandera) was placedin the time period of about 90 B.C. in Lydda, a town Peter is said tohave visited in ACTS.interestingly the early church father Epiphanius around 400 said Pandera was the grandfather of Jesus.

Jerusalem has seven hills and was frequently referred to as a harlot for whoring after foreign gods. This was long before Rome was involved.

This is true; we already established that in another thread somewhere.

 

[surada]

So who is the great Jewish leader?

You do realize the people in that video said my name more then the 100bc figures name (listen carefully and do a count).
Yeshu isn't the 1 attributed to all those verses, the 100bc figure Yeshu was a sorcerer maggi liken to Benny Hinn trick show and would you dare call Benny Hinn a physician?
The Galilean christ who died in 6bc is not the hanged on passover christ of 100bc and the AD era christ figure is not the Galilean christ, so the street performer is not an investigative hournalist nor knowledgable of actual History to know he's painting a combined portrait mythology of many real and plagiarized from the Bible figures.
None of those figures used for the Jesus accounts were good Jews.
Yeshu strayed as did his mother Mary. Yeshu taught Egyptian mysticsm and underworld teaching learned when fleeing the Jannaeus revolt towards Egypt.
Yehuda of Galilee was a tax revolter who's followers would harass & burn down and rob homes of people who paid the Roman tax, only if you are antifa would you be cool with that.
Theudas was bisexual (not the problem) but it was a problem that he was caught in a situation much like M.Jackson, as Jesus (theudas) was sleeping with a young boy most likely Lazarus (one of his lovers) he was caught fleeing naked out of Jesus' hut who was half naked (it's in the NT and Gnostic texts).
All 3 failed their revolts and at least 2 taught forbidden mysticsm (that the rays of light between the sun and earth were their God) and death cultism. Causing their followers and Jews in general to be dispersed and slain is not a rarionalist or intellectually honest view of a good Jew. That makes that illegal proselytizing street puppet a satanist(willing participent in darkness*) in belief and misguided portraits based on fallacies .
*(darkness=lies/folly/ignorance)
Source for bi Jesus
A newly translated Gnostic gospel, entitled The Secret Book of Judas of Kerioth, According to this seemingly authentic early Cainite-Ophite text, translated from the Coptic by Mohammed al-Murtada and Francis Bendik, said Jesus had an active bisexual love life,including relationswith John, Lazarus and Mary Magdelene.

Also validating that: is
in the missing portions of Mark it shows Jesus sleeping with a naked young rich man, but also the NT validates this:
"...there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold of him: And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked." (Mark 14:51-52). Was this the companion that Luke observed with Jesus inside the garden?

"...he that is courageous among the mighty shall flee away naked on that day..."(Amos 2:16----the Hebrew 'labab' translated 'flee away' here, actually means 'transported with love', and also 'ravished'). Now that certainly fits this episode of the young man fleeing away naked from Jesus outside the garden of Gethsemane.

Who was this young man if not perhaps the rich man whom "Then Jesus beholding him, loved him..."(Mark 10:21). Perhaps it was the rich man Lazarus, of whom "...he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth..."(John 11:11----The Greek 'philos' translated 'friend', also means 'dear' and 'fond of').

Source for Yehuda the Galilean christ :
The Galilean christ tax revolter Yehuda in the time of Herod was hated by Rome for his revolt but also the people Josephus wrote were bullied by Yehuda and his followers, if they paid the tax the flock would burn down their house or rob them
.


NOTE: Luke mentions him once, in



Acts 5:37, and Josephus several times, once here, sect. 6; and B. XX. ch. 5. sect. 2; Of the War, B. II. ch. 8. sect. 1; and ch. 17. sect. 8, calls this Judas, who was the pestilent author of that seditious doctrine and temper which brought the Jewish nation to utter destruction, a Galilean; but here (sect. 1) Josephus calls him a Gaulonite, of the city of Gamala; it is a great question where this Judas was born, whether in Galilee on the west side, or in Gaulonitis on the east side, of the river Jordan; while, in the place just now cited out of the Antiquities, B. XX. ch. 5. sect. 2, he is not only called a Galilean, but it is added to his story, "as I have signified in the books that go before these," as if he had still called him a Galilean in those Antiquities before, as well as in that particular place, as Dean Aldrich observes, Of the War, B. II. ch. 8. sect. 1.

Source for Yeshu son of Mary 100bc
Sources for the history of (Yeshu) Jesus: philosopher Celsus (178 CE) Christian writer Epiphanius (c.320-403 CE), the Christian apologist Origen (c.185-254 CE) Within the Talmud Shabbos 104, the gemara explicitly discusses the mother being Stada and the father being Pandera. Jerusalem Talmud (Avodah Zerah II 40d)and in the Tosefta on Hullin II, and (Sanhedrin 43a & 67a). This story is further expanded upon in the Tosefta and Baraitas.

2 accounts:
-Dr. Franz Hartman -
& Gerald Massey's Lectures Originally published in a private edition c. 1900

According to the Babylonian Gemara to the Mishna of Tract "Shabbath," this Jehoshua, the son of Pandira and Stada, was stoned to death as a wizard, in the city of Lud, or Lydda,
Jesus ben Stada (or Pandera) was placedin the time period of about 90 B.C. in Lydda, a town Peter is said tohave visited in ACTS.
Interestingly, the early church father Epiphanius around 400 said Pandera was the grandfather of Jesus.

The Widows mite acct in the NT is
a Jannaeus Alexander coin, not a Herod coin.

There was no Herod Killing Babies event, but Yeshu son of Mary in 100bc did flee the Jannaeus revolt towards Egypt with his mentor Rabbi Yohoshua ben Parachya.

This Rabbi is accurately dated as is King Jannaeus who's wife was Salome (friend & follower of Yeshu)who historically recorded reinstated appointed Shimon head priest(=shimon peter becomes head of the church).

The 100bc era, is the era where this Yeshu son of Mary stoned & was HANGED ON A TREE at Passover comes from.(NT accounts slew and hanging)

Rabbi Yehuda (Judas) ben Tabbai (same 100bc era)
who had a Witness killed, who conspired to testify falsely. Yehuda did this to show the Tziddukim they were wrong regarding a law, but made a mistake himself, which Shimon ben Shetach (his friend and eventual head priest appointed by Jannaeus' wife Salome)pointed out. He thus spent his life crying at the grave of his victim for forgiveness:
-Makkot 5b.

So you see Jesus isn't a singular historical figure and Yeshu being a small sliver of the accts the street peddler is peddling.
Rome created a new non Jewish name for the combined figure, because multiple characters can't hold their own historical name=they need a new name as a mask(they still do this with Popes so you don't trace back their true history background from the image they wish to project).
This idiot simply attributed it to a singular Jewish name that never fit those accts in that video based on Rome's mythical figure and didn't even come from the AD Pilate era. Once again the reason why the image of a man is given it's own new name.

Matthew 15:30
And large crowds came to Him, bringing with them those who were lame, crippled, blind, mute, and many others, and they laid them down at His feet; and He healed them.

Matthew 21:14
And the blind and the lame came to Him in the temple, and He healed them.

Luke 4:40
While the sun was setting, all those who had any who were sick with various diseases brought them to Him; and laying His hands on each one of them, He was healing them.

Luke 5:17
One day He was teaching; and there were some Pharisees and teachers of the law sitting there, who had come from every village of Galilee and Judea and from Jerusalem; and the power of the Lord was present for Him to perform healing.

Luke 9:11
But the crowds were aware of this and followed Him; and welcoming them, He began speaking to them about the kingdom of God and curing those who had need of healing.

Matthew 9:35
Jesus was going through all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues and proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every kind of disease and every kind of sickness.

Matthew 19:2
and large crowds followed Him, and He healed them there.

Mark 3:10
for He had healed many, with the result that all those who had afflictions pressed around Him in order to touch Him.

Mark 6:56
Wherever He entered villages, or cities, or countryside, they were laying the sick in the market places, and imploring Him that they might just touch the fringe of His cloak; and as many as touched it were being cured.

Luke 6:18
who had come to hear Him and to be healed of their diseases; and those who were troubled with unclean spirits were being cured.

Acts 10:38
You know of Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.

Luke 5:15
But the news about Him was spreading even farther, and large crowds were gathering to hear Him and to be healed of their sicknesses.

Mark 6:5
And He could do no miracle there except that He laid His hands on a few sick people and healed them.

Mark 7:37
They were utterly astonished, saying, “He has done all things well; He makes even the deaf to hear and the mute to speak.”

Matthew 8:7
Jesus *said to him, “I will come and heal him.”

Luke 13:32
And He said to them, “Go and tell that fox, ‘Behold, I cast out demons and perform cures today and tomorrow, and the third day I reach My goal.’

Acts 9:34
Peter said to him, “Aeneas, Jesus Christ heals you; get up and make your bed.” Immediately he got up.

Isaiah 53:5
But He was pierced through for our transgressions,
He was crushed for our iniquities;
The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him,
And by His scourging we are healed.

1 Peter 2:24
and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed.

Matthew 4:24
The news about Him spread throughout all Syria; and they brought to Him all who were ill, those suffering with various diseases and pains, demoniacs, epileptics, paralytics; and He healed them.

Matthew 8:8
But the centurion said, “Lord, I am not worthy for You to come under my roof, but just say the word, and my servant will be healed.

Matthew 9:21
for she was saying to herself, “If I only touch His garment, I will get well.”

Mark 1:34
And He healed many who were ill with various diseases, and cast out many demons; and He was not permitting the demons to speak, because they knew who He was.

Luke 6:17
Jesus came down with them and stood on a level place; and there was a large crowd of His disciples, and a great throng of people from all Judea and Jerusalem and the coastal region of Tyre and Sidon,

Luke 6:19
And all the people were trying to touch Him, for power was coming from Him and healing them all.

Luke 7:21
At that very time He cured many people of diseases and afflictions and evil spirits; and He gave sight to many who were blind.

John 5:11
But he answered them, “He who made me well was the one who said to me, ‘Pick up your pallet and walk.’”

John 6:2
A large crowd followed Him, because they saw the signs which He was performing on those who were sick.

Luke 4:23
And He said to them, “No doubt you will quote this proverb to Me, ‘Physician, heal yourself! Whatever we heard was done at Capernaum, do here in your hometown as well.’”

Luke 13:14
But the synagogue official, indignant because Jesus had healed on the Sabbath, began saying to the crowd in response, “There are six days in which work should be done; so come during them and get healed, and not on the Sabbath day.”

Matthew 12:10
And a man was there whose hand was withered. And they questioned Jesus, asking, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?”—so that they might accuse Him.

Luke 14:3
And Jesus answered and spoke to the lawyers and Pharisees, saying, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath, or not?”

Mark 3:2
They were watching Him to see if He would heal him on the Sabbath, so that they might accuse Him.

Luke 6:7
The scribes and the Pharisees were watching Him closely to see if He healed on the Sabbath, so that they might find reason to accuse Him.

John 7:23
If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath so that the Law of Moses will not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made an entire man well on the Sabbath?

John 9:14
Now it was a Sabbath on the day when Jesus made the clay and opened his eyes.

Matthew 12:10
And a man was there whose hand was withered. And they questioned Jesus, asking, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?”—so that they might accuse Him.

Reading the verses above, I would conclude that JESUS was/is no Benny Hill nor Benny Hinn.

The newly translated Gnostic gospel is a fake and I can only imagine why it appears now! The last Book of the NEW TESTAMENT is from about 95 AD and condemns any additional revelation for what it is ---- Satan's attempt to corrupt, distort, belittle, and confuse.

As for Origen, many believe that his use of Scripture compromised that authority, providing fertile conditions for the germination and growth of heresy. I would suggest that Origin's philosophical ideology was akin to Jehovah Witnesses, had he been alive today. And obviously, his self mutilation demonstrates a twisted understanding of scripture, the grace of GOD, and salvation through faith and not one's works of penance.

Luke probably never met Jesus or was in Palestine.. He makes such a mess of the geography that most scholars think he lived and wrote in Antioch.

Is Luke inept or is he far more acquainted with the topography of the region than yourself... Please see the following: Were the Gospel Writers Really Geographically Inept? | Is Jesus Alive?

Others have come to a different conclusion.

Did the author of Luke make a geographical blunder in Luke 4:29? | Is Jesus Alive?

Let's just say that Jesus' first sermon in his home city of Nazareth did not go over big. Reading out of Isaiah 61, Jesus announces that he's ...

isjesusalive.com

So which is correct, and what is their intention? Do they promote GOD? Do they promote themselves? Do they want the truth, or do they have itchy ears and seek excuses for their character?

We don't know the names of the gospel writers.. They have come to be called Matthew, Mark, Luke and Joh, but the were all written decades after the crucifixion.

 

[DudleySmith]

So who is the great Jewish leader?

You do realize the people in that video said my name more then the 100bc figures name (listen carefully and do a count).
Yeshu isn't the 1 attributed to all those verses, the 100bc figure Yeshu was a sorcerer maggi liken to Benny Hinn trick show and would you dare call Benny Hinn a physician?
The Galilean christ who died in 6bc is not the hanged on passover christ of 100bc and the AD era christ figure is not the Galilean christ, so the street performer is not an investigative hournalist nor knowledgable of actual History to know he's painting a combined portrait mythology of many real and plagiarized from the Bible figures.
None of those figures used for the Jesus accounts were good Jews.
Yeshu strayed as did his mother Mary. Yeshu taught Egyptian mysticsm and underworld teaching learned when fleeing the Jannaeus revolt towards Egypt.
Yehuda of Galilee was a tax revolter who's followers would harass & burn down and rob homes of people who paid the Roman tax, only if you are antifa would you be cool with that.
Theudas was bisexual (not the problem) but it was a problem that he was caught in a situation much like M.Jackson, as Jesus (theudas) was sleeping with a young boy most likely Lazarus (one of his lovers) he was caught fleeing naked out of Jesus' hut who was half naked (it's in the NT and Gnostic texts).
All 3 failed their revolts and at least 2 taught forbidden mysticsm (that the rays of light between the sun and earth were their God) and death cultism. Causing their followers and Jews in general to be dispersed and slain is not a rarionalist or intellectually honest view of a good Jew. That makes that illegal proselytizing street puppet a satanist(willing participent in darkness*) in belief and misguided portraits based on fallacies .
*(darkness=lies/folly/ignorance)
Source for bi Jesus
A newly translated Gnostic gospel, entitled The Secret Book of Judas of Kerioth, According to this seemingly authentic early Cainite-Ophite text, translated from the Coptic by Mohammed al-Murtada and Francis Bendik, said Jesus had an active bisexual love life,including relationswith John, Lazarus and Mary Magdelene.

Also validating that: is
in the missing portions of Mark it shows Jesus sleeping with a naked young rich man, but also the NT validates this:
"...there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold of him: And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked." (Mark 14:51-52). Was this the companion that Luke observed with Jesus inside the garden?

"...he that is courageous among the mighty shall flee away naked on that day..."(Amos 2:16----the Hebrew 'labab' translated 'flee away' here, actually means 'transported with love', and also 'ravished'). Now that certainly fits this episode of the young man fleeing away naked from Jesus outside the garden of Gethsemane.

Who was this young man if not perhaps the rich man whom "Then Jesus beholding him, loved him..."(Mark 10:21). Perhaps it was the rich man Lazarus, of whom "...he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth..."(John 11:11----The Greek 'philos' translated 'friend', also means 'dear' and 'fond of').

Source for Yehuda the Galilean christ :
The Galilean christ tax revolter Yehuda in the time of Herod was hated by Rome for his revolt but also the people Josephus wrote were bullied by Yehuda and his followers, if they paid the tax the flock would burn down their house or rob them
.


NOTE: Luke mentions him once, in



Acts 5:37, and Josephus several times, once here, sect. 6; and B. XX. ch. 5. sect. 2; Of the War, B. II. ch. 8. sect. 1; and ch. 17. sect. 8, calls this Judas, who was the pestilent author of that seditious doctrine and temper which brought the Jewish nation to utter destruction, a Galilean; but here (sect. 1) Josephus calls him a Gaulonite, of the city of Gamala; it is a great question where this Judas was born, whether in Galilee on the west side, or in Gaulonitis on the east side, of the river Jordan; while, in the place just now cited out of the Antiquities, B. XX. ch. 5. sect. 2, he is not only called a Galilean, but it is added to his story, "as I have signified in the books that go before these," as if he had still called him a Galilean in those Antiquities before, as well as in that particular place, as Dean Aldrich observes, Of the War, B. II. ch. 8. sect. 1.

Source for Yeshu son of Mary 100bc
Sources for the history of (Yeshu) Jesus: philosopher Celsus (178 CE) Christian writer Epiphanius (c.320-403 CE), the Christian apologist Origen (c.185-254 CE) Within the Talmud Shabbos 104, the gemara explicitly discusses the mother being Stada and the father being Pandera. Jerusalem Talmud (Avodah Zerah II 40d)and in the Tosefta on Hullin II, and (Sanhedrin 43a & 67a). This story is further expanded upon in the Tosefta and Baraitas.

2 accounts:
-Dr. Franz Hartman -
& Gerald Massey's Lectures Originally published in a private edition c. 1900

According to the Babylonian Gemara to the Mishna of Tract "Shabbath," this Jehoshua, the son of Pandira and Stada, was stoned to death as a wizard, in the city of Lud, or Lydda,
Jesus ben Stada (or Pandera) was placedin the time period of about 90 B.C. in Lydda, a town Peter is said tohave visited in ACTS.
Interestingly, the early church father Epiphanius around 400 said Pandera was the grandfather of Jesus.

The Widows mite acct in the NT is
a Jannaeus Alexander coin, not a Herod coin.

There was no Herod Killing Babies event, but Yeshu son of Mary in 100bc did flee the Jannaeus revolt towards Egypt with his mentor Rabbi Yohoshua ben Parachya.

This Rabbi is accurately dated as is King Jannaeus who's wife was Salome (friend & follower of Yeshu)who historically recorded reinstated appointed Shimon head priest(=shimon peter becomes head of the church).

The 100bc era, is the era where this Yeshu son of Mary stoned & was HANGED ON A TREE at Passover comes from.(NT accounts slew and hanging)

Rabbi Yehuda (Judas) ben Tabbai (same 100bc era)
who had a Witness killed, who conspired to testify falsely. Yehuda did this to show the Tziddukim they were wrong regarding a law, but made a mistake himself, which Shimon ben Shetach (his friend and eventual head priest appointed by Jannaeus' wife Salome)pointed out. He thus spent his life crying at the grave of his victim for forgiveness:
-Makkot 5b.

So you see Jesus isn't a singular historical figure and Yeshu being a small sliver of the accts the street peddler is peddling.
Rome created a new non Jewish name for the combined figure, because multiple characters can't hold their own historical name=they need a new name as a mask(they still do this with Popes so you don't trace back their true history background from the image they wish to project).
This idiot simply attributed it to a singular Jewish name that never fit those accts in that video based on Rome's mythical figure and didn't even come from the AD Pilate era. Once again the reason why the image of a man is given it's own new name.

Matthew 15:30
And large crowds came to Him, bringing with them those who were lame, crippled, blind, mute, and many others, and they laid them down at His feet; and He healed them.

Matthew 21:14
And the blind and the lame came to Him in the temple, and He healed them.

Luke 4:40
While the sun was setting, all those who had any who were sick with various diseases brought them to Him; and laying His hands on each one of them, He was healing them.

Luke 5:17
One day He was teaching; and there were some Pharisees and teachers of the law sitting there, who had come from every village of Galilee and Judea and from Jerusalem; and the power of the Lord was present for Him to perform healing.

Luke 9:11
But the crowds were aware of this and followed Him; and welcoming them, He began speaking to them about the kingdom of God and curing those who had need of healing.

Matthew 9:35
Jesus was going through all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues and proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every kind of disease and every kind of sickness.

Matthew 19:2
and large crowds followed Him, and He healed them there.

Mark 3:10
for He had healed many, with the result that all those who had afflictions pressed around Him in order to touch Him.

Mark 6:56
Wherever He entered villages, or cities, or countryside, they were laying the sick in the market places, and imploring Him that they might just touch the fringe of His cloak; and as many as touched it were being cured.

Luke 6:18
who had come to hear Him and to be healed of their diseases; and those who were troubled with unclean spirits were being cured.

Acts 10:38
You know of Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.

Luke 5:15
But the news about Him was spreading even farther, and large crowds were gathering to hear Him and to be healed of their sicknesses.

Mark 6:5
And He could do no miracle there except that He laid His hands on a few sick people and healed them.

Mark 7:37
They were utterly astonished, saying, “He has done all things well; He makes even the deaf to hear and the mute to speak.”

Matthew 8:7
Jesus *said to him, “I will come and heal him.”

Luke 13:32
And He said to them, “Go and tell that fox, ‘Behold, I cast out demons and perform cures today and tomorrow, and the third day I reach My goal.’

Acts 9:34
Peter said to him, “Aeneas, Jesus Christ heals you; get up and make your bed.” Immediately he got up.

Isaiah 53:5
But He was pierced through for our transgressions,
He was crushed for our iniquities;
The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him,
And by His scourging we are healed.

1 Peter 2:24
and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed.

Matthew 4:24
The news about Him spread throughout all Syria; and they brought to Him all who were ill, those suffering with various diseases and pains, demoniacs, epileptics, paralytics; and He healed them.

Matthew 8:8
But the centurion said, “Lord, I am not worthy for You to come under my roof, but just say the word, and my servant will be healed.

Matthew 9:21
for she was saying to herself, “If I only touch His garment, I will get well.”

Mark 1:34
And He healed many who were ill with various diseases, and cast out many demons; and He was not permitting the demons to speak, because they knew who He was.

Luke 6:17
Jesus came down with them and stood on a level place; and there was a large crowd of His disciples, and a great throng of people from all Judea and Jerusalem and the coastal region of Tyre and Sidon,

Luke 6:19
And all the people were trying to touch Him, for power was coming from Him and healing them all.

Luke 7:21
At that very time He cured many people of diseases and afflictions and evil spirits; and He gave sight to many who were blind.

John 5:11
But he answered them, “He who made me well was the one who said to me, ‘Pick up your pallet and walk.’”

John 6:2
A large crowd followed Him, because they saw the signs which He was performing on those who were sick.

Luke 4:23
And He said to them, “No doubt you will quote this proverb to Me, ‘Physician, heal yourself! Whatever we heard was done at Capernaum, do here in your hometown as well.’”

Luke 13:14
But the synagogue official, indignant because Jesus had healed on the Sabbath, began saying to the crowd in response, “There are six days in which work should be done; so come during them and get healed, and not on the Sabbath day.”

Matthew 12:10
And a man was there whose hand was withered. And they questioned Jesus, asking, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?”—so that they might accuse Him.

Luke 14:3
And Jesus answered and spoke to the lawyers and Pharisees, saying, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath, or not?”

Mark 3:2
They were watching Him to see if He would heal him on the Sabbath, so that they might accuse Him.

Luke 6:7
The scribes and the Pharisees were watching Him closely to see if He healed on the Sabbath, so that they might find reason to accuse Him.

John 7:23
If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath so that the Law of Moses will not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made an entire man well on the Sabbath?

John 9:14
Now it was a Sabbath on the day when Jesus made the clay and opened his eyes.

Matthew 12:10
And a man was there whose hand was withered. And they questioned Jesus, asking, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?”—so that they might accuse Him.

Reading the verses above, I would conclude that JESUS was/is no Benny Hill nor Benny Hinn.

The newly translated Gnostic gospel is a fake and I can only imagine why it appears now! The last Book of the NEW TESTAMENT is from about 95 AD and condemns any additional revelation for what it is ---- Satan's attempt to corrupt, distort, belittle, and confuse.

As for Origen, many believe that his use of Scripture compromised that authority, providing fertile conditions for the germination and growth of heresy. I would suggest that Origin's philosophical ideology was akin to Jehovah Witnesses, had he been alive today. And obviously, his self mutilation demonstrates a twisted understanding of scripture, the grace of GOD, and salvation through faith and not one's works of penance.

Luke probably never met Jesus or was in Palestine.. He makes such a mess of the geography that most scholars think he lived and wrote in Antioch.

Is Luke inept or is he far more acquainted with the topography of the region than yourself... Please see the following: Were the Gospel Writers Really Geographically Inept? | Is Jesus Alive?

Others have come to a different conclusion.

Did the author of Luke make a geographical blunder in Luke 4:29? | Is Jesus Alive?

Let's just say that Jesus' first sermon in his home city of Nazareth did not go over big. Reading out of Isaiah 61, Jesus announces that he's ...

isjesusalive.com

So which is correct, and what is their intention? Do they promote GOD? Do they promote themselves? Do they want the truth, or do they have itchy ears and seek excuses for their character?

We don't know the names of the gospel writers.. They have come to be called Matthew, Mark, Luke and Joh, but the were all written decades after the crucifixion.

They all existed decades before being written down, and they were all contemporary with the times, and not 'invented' or rewritten hundreds of years later. There are no anachronisms in the NT.

 

[DudleySmith]

Jesus commanded that HIS followers are to spread the GOSPEL message.

As long as we're quoting fictional characters, Yoda told me you're crazy as an outhouse rat.

Modern Judaism is entirely fictional, fabricated by Babylonians turning themselves into a 'Master Race' cult, little different than what Hitler was hoping to do with Germans. Ironic, eh?

 

[surada]

So who is the great Jewish leader?

You do realize the people in that video said my name more then the 100bc figures name (listen carefully and do a count).
Yeshu isn't the 1 attributed to all those verses, the 100bc figure Yeshu was a sorcerer maggi liken to Benny Hinn trick show and would you dare call Benny Hinn a physician?
The Galilean christ who died in 6bc is not the hanged on passover christ of 100bc and the AD era christ figure is not the Galilean christ, so the street performer is not an investigative hournalist nor knowledgable of actual History to know he's painting a combined portrait mythology of many real and plagiarized from the Bible figures.
None of those figures used for the Jesus accounts were good Jews.
Yeshu strayed as did his mother Mary. Yeshu taught Egyptian mysticsm and underworld teaching learned when fleeing the Jannaeus revolt towards Egypt.
Yehuda of Galilee was a tax revolter who's followers would harass & burn down and rob homes of people who paid the Roman tax, only if you are antifa would you be cool with that.
Theudas was bisexual (not the problem) but it was a problem that he was caught in a situation much like M.Jackson, as Jesus (theudas) was sleeping with a young boy most likely Lazarus (one of his lovers) he was caught fleeing naked out of Jesus' hut who was half naked (it's in the NT and Gnostic texts).
All 3 failed their revolts and at least 2 taught forbidden mysticsm (that the rays of light between the sun and earth were their God) and death cultism. Causing their followers and Jews in general to be dispersed and slain is not a rarionalist or intellectually honest view of a good Jew. That makes that illegal proselytizing street puppet a satanist(willing participent in darkness*) in belief and misguided portraits based on fallacies .
*(darkness=lies/folly/ignorance)
Source for bi Jesus
A newly translated Gnostic gospel, entitled The Secret Book of Judas of Kerioth, According to this seemingly authentic early Cainite-Ophite text, translated from the Coptic by Mohammed al-Murtada and Francis Bendik, said Jesus had an active bisexual love life,including relationswith John, Lazarus and Mary Magdelene.

Also validating that: is
in the missing portions of Mark it shows Jesus sleeping with a naked young rich man, but also the NT validates this:
"...there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold of him: And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked." (Mark 14:51-52). Was this the companion that Luke observed with Jesus inside the garden?

"...he that is courageous among the mighty shall flee away naked on that day..."(Amos 2:16----the Hebrew 'labab' translated 'flee away' here, actually means 'transported with love', and also 'ravished'). Now that certainly fits this episode of the young man fleeing away naked from Jesus outside the garden of Gethsemane.

Who was this young man if not perhaps the rich man whom "Then Jesus beholding him, loved him..."(Mark 10:21). Perhaps it was the rich man Lazarus, of whom "...he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth..."(John 11:11----The Greek 'philos' translated 'friend', also means 'dear' and 'fond of').

Source for Yehuda the Galilean christ :
The Galilean christ tax revolter Yehuda in the time of Herod was hated by Rome for his revolt but also the people Josephus wrote were bullied by Yehuda and his followers, if they paid the tax the flock would burn down their house or rob them
.


NOTE: Luke mentions him once, in



Acts 5:37, and Josephus several times, once here, sect. 6; and B. XX. ch. 5. sect. 2; Of the War, B. II. ch. 8. sect. 1; and ch. 17. sect. 8, calls this Judas, who was the pestilent author of that seditious doctrine and temper which brought the Jewish nation to utter destruction, a Galilean; but here (sect. 1) Josephus calls him a Gaulonite, of the city of Gamala; it is a great question where this Judas was born, whether in Galilee on the west side, or in Gaulonitis on the east side, of the river Jordan; while, in the place just now cited out of the Antiquities, B. XX. ch. 5. sect. 2, he is not only called a Galilean, but it is added to his story, "as I have signified in the books that go before these," as if he had still called him a Galilean in those Antiquities before, as well as in that particular place, as Dean Aldrich observes, Of the War, B. II. ch. 8. sect. 1.

Source for Yeshu son of Mary 100bc
Sources for the history of (Yeshu) Jesus: philosopher Celsus (178 CE) Christian writer Epiphanius (c.320-403 CE), the Christian apologist Origen (c.185-254 CE) Within the Talmud Shabbos 104, the gemara explicitly discusses the mother being Stada and the father being Pandera. Jerusalem Talmud (Avodah Zerah II 40d)and in the Tosefta on Hullin II, and (Sanhedrin 43a & 67a). This story is further expanded upon in the Tosefta and Baraitas.

2 accounts:
-Dr. Franz Hartman -
& Gerald Massey's Lectures Originally published in a private edition c. 1900

According to the Babylonian Gemara to the Mishna of Tract "Shabbath," this Jehoshua, the son of Pandira and Stada, was stoned to death as a wizard, in the city of Lud, or Lydda,
Jesus ben Stada (or Pandera) was placedin the time period of about 90 B.C. in Lydda, a town Peter is said tohave visited in ACTS.
Interestingly, the early church father Epiphanius around 400 said Pandera was the grandfather of Jesus.

The Widows mite acct in the NT is
a Jannaeus Alexander coin, not a Herod coin.

There was no Herod Killing Babies event, but Yeshu son of Mary in 100bc did flee the Jannaeus revolt towards Egypt with his mentor Rabbi Yohoshua ben Parachya.

This Rabbi is accurately dated as is King Jannaeus who's wife was Salome (friend & follower of Yeshu)who historically recorded reinstated appointed Shimon head priest(=shimon peter becomes head of the church).

The 100bc era, is the era where this Yeshu son of Mary stoned & was HANGED ON A TREE at Passover comes from.(NT accounts slew and hanging)

Rabbi Yehuda (Judas) ben Tabbai (same 100bc era)
who had a Witness killed, who conspired to testify falsely. Yehuda did this to show the Tziddukim they were wrong regarding a law, but made a mistake himself, which Shimon ben Shetach (his friend and eventual head priest appointed by Jannaeus' wife Salome)pointed out. He thus spent his life crying at the grave of his victim for forgiveness:
-Makkot 5b.

So you see Jesus isn't a singular historical figure and Yeshu being a small sliver of the accts the street peddler is peddling.
Rome created a new non Jewish name for the combined figure, because multiple characters can't hold their own historical name=they need a new name as a mask(they still do this with Popes so you don't trace back their true history background from the image they wish to project).
This idiot simply attributed it to a singular Jewish name that never fit those accts in that video based on Rome's mythical figure and didn't even come from the AD Pilate era. Once again the reason why the image of a man is given it's own new name.

Matthew 15:30
And large crowds came to Him, bringing with them those who were lame, crippled, blind, mute, and many others, and they laid them down at His feet; and He healed them.

Matthew 21:14
And the blind and the lame came to Him in the temple, and He healed them.

Luke 4:40
While the sun was setting, all those who had any who were sick with various diseases brought them to Him; and laying His hands on each one of them, He was healing them.

Luke 5:17
One day He was teaching; and there were some Pharisees and teachers of the law sitting there, who had come from every village of Galilee and Judea and from Jerusalem; and the power of the Lord was present for Him to perform healing.

Luke 9:11
But the crowds were aware of this and followed Him; and welcoming them, He began speaking to them about the kingdom of God and curing those who had need of healing.

Matthew 9:35
Jesus was going through all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues and proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every kind of disease and every kind of sickness.

Matthew 19:2
and large crowds followed Him, and He healed them there.

Mark 3:10
for He had healed many, with the result that all those who had afflictions pressed around Him in order to touch Him.

Mark 6:56
Wherever He entered villages, or cities, or countryside, they were laying the sick in the market places, and imploring Him that they might just touch the fringe of His cloak; and as many as touched it were being cured.

Luke 6:18
who had come to hear Him and to be healed of their diseases; and those who were troubled with unclean spirits were being cured.

Acts 10:38
You know of Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.

Luke 5:15
But the news about Him was spreading even farther, and large crowds were gathering to hear Him and to be healed of their sicknesses.

Mark 6:5
And He could do no miracle there except that He laid His hands on a few sick people and healed them.

Mark 7:37
They were utterly astonished, saying, “He has done all things well; He makes even the deaf to hear and the mute to speak.”

Matthew 8:7
Jesus *said to him, “I will come and heal him.”

Luke 13:32
And He said to them, “Go and tell that fox, ‘Behold, I cast out demons and perform cures today and tomorrow, and the third day I reach My goal.’

Acts 9:34
Peter said to him, “Aeneas, Jesus Christ heals you; get up and make your bed.” Immediately he got up.

Isaiah 53:5
But He was pierced through for our transgressions,
He was crushed for our iniquities;
The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him,
And by His scourging we are healed.

1 Peter 2:24
and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed.

Matthew 4:24
The news about Him spread throughout all Syria; and they brought to Him all who were ill, those suffering with various diseases and pains, demoniacs, epileptics, paralytics; and He healed them.

Matthew 8:8
But the centurion said, “Lord, I am not worthy for You to come under my roof, but just say the word, and my servant will be healed.

Matthew 9:21
for she was saying to herself, “If I only touch His garment, I will get well.”

Mark 1:34
And He healed many who were ill with various diseases, and cast out many demons; and He was not permitting the demons to speak, because they knew who He was.

Luke 6:17
Jesus came down with them and stood on a level place; and there was a large crowd of His disciples, and a great throng of people from all Judea and Jerusalem and the coastal region of Tyre and Sidon,

Luke 6:19
And all the people were trying to touch Him, for power was coming from Him and healing them all.

Luke 7:21
At that very time He cured many people of diseases and afflictions and evil spirits; and He gave sight to many who were blind.

John 5:11
But he answered them, “He who made me well was the one who said to me, ‘Pick up your pallet and walk.’”

John 6:2
A large crowd followed Him, because they saw the signs which He was performing on those who were sick.

Luke 4:23
And He said to them, “No doubt you will quote this proverb to Me, ‘Physician, heal yourself! Whatever we heard was done at Capernaum, do here in your hometown as well.’”

Luke 13:14
But the synagogue official, indignant because Jesus had healed on the Sabbath, began saying to the crowd in response, “There are six days in which work should be done; so come during them and get healed, and not on the Sabbath day.”

Matthew 12:10
And a man was there whose hand was withered. And they questioned Jesus, asking, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?”—so that they might accuse Him.

Luke 14:3
And Jesus answered and spoke to the lawyers and Pharisees, saying, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath, or not?”

Mark 3:2
They were watching Him to see if He would heal him on the Sabbath, so that they might accuse Him.

Luke 6:7
The scribes and the Pharisees were watching Him closely to see if He healed on the Sabbath, so that they might find reason to accuse Him.

John 7:23
If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath so that the Law of Moses will not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made an entire man well on the Sabbath?

John 9:14
Now it was a Sabbath on the day when Jesus made the clay and opened his eyes.

Matthew 12:10
And a man was there whose hand was withered. And they questioned Jesus, asking, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?”—so that they might accuse Him.

Reading the verses above, I would conclude that JESUS was/is no Benny Hill nor Benny Hinn.

The newly translated Gnostic gospel is a fake and I can only imagine why it appears now! The last Book of the NEW TESTAMENT is from about 95 AD and condemns any additional revelation for what it is ---- Satan's attempt to corrupt, distort, belittle, and confuse.

As for Origen, many believe that his use of Scripture compromised that authority, providing fertile conditions for the germination and growth of heresy. I would suggest that Origin's philosophical ideology was akin to Jehovah Witnesses, had he been alive today. And obviously, his self mutilation demonstrates a twisted understanding of scripture, the grace of GOD, and salvation through faith and not one's works of penance.

Luke probably never met Jesus or was in Palestine.. He makes such a mess of the geography that most scholars think he lived and wrote in Antioch.

Is Luke inept or is he far more acquainted with the topography of the region than yourself... Please see the following: Were the Gospel Writers Really Geographically Inept? | Is Jesus Alive?

Others have come to a different conclusion.

Did the author of Luke make a geographical blunder in Luke 4:29? | Is Jesus Alive?

Let's just say that Jesus' first sermon in his home city of Nazareth did not go over big. Reading out of Isaiah 61, Jesus announces that he's ...

isjesusalive.com

So which is correct, and what is their intention? Do they promote GOD? Do they promote themselves? Do they want the truth, or do they have itchy ears and seek excuses for their character?

We don't know the names of the gospel writers.. They have come to be called Matthew, Mark, Luke and Joh, but the were all written decades after the crucifixion.

They all existed decades before being written down, and they were all contemporary with the times, and not 'invented' or rewritten hundreds of years later. There are no anachronisms in the NT.

The gospels were written 70 to 120 A.D.

Word of mouth tends to degrade a narrative.

Early Christian Writings: New Testament, Apocrypha, Gnostics, Church Fathers

 

[DudleySmith]

So who is the great Jewish leader?

You do realize the people in that video said my name more then the 100bc figures name (listen carefully and do a count).
Yeshu isn't the 1 attributed to all those verses, the 100bc figure Yeshu was a sorcerer maggi liken to Benny Hinn trick show and would you dare call Benny Hinn a physician?
The Galilean christ who died in 6bc is not the hanged on passover christ of 100bc and the AD era christ figure is not the Galilean christ, so the street performer is not an investigative hournalist nor knowledgable of actual History to know he's painting a combined portrait mythology of many real and plagiarized from the Bible figures.
None of those figures used for the Jesus accounts were good Jews.
Yeshu strayed as did his mother Mary. Yeshu taught Egyptian mysticsm and underworld teaching learned when fleeing the Jannaeus revolt towards Egypt.
Yehuda of Galilee was a tax revolter who's followers would harass & burn down and rob homes of people who paid the Roman tax, only if you are antifa would you be cool with that.
Theudas was bisexual (not the problem) but it was a problem that he was caught in a situation much like M.Jackson, as Jesus (theudas) was sleeping with a young boy most likely Lazarus (one of his lovers) he was caught fleeing naked out of Jesus' hut who was half naked (it's in the NT and Gnostic texts).
All 3 failed their revolts and at least 2 taught forbidden mysticsm (that the rays of light between the sun and earth were their God) and death cultism. Causing their followers and Jews in general to be dispersed and slain is not a rarionalist or intellectually honest view of a good Jew. That makes that illegal proselytizing street puppet a satanist(willing participent in darkness*) in belief and misguided portraits based on fallacies .
*(darkness=lies/folly/ignorance)
Source for bi Jesus
A newly translated Gnostic gospel, entitled The Secret Book of Judas of Kerioth, According to this seemingly authentic early Cainite-Ophite text, translated from the Coptic by Mohammed al-Murtada and Francis Bendik, said Jesus had an active bisexual love life,including relationswith John, Lazarus and Mary Magdelene.

Also validating that: is
in the missing portions of Mark it shows Jesus sleeping with a naked young rich man, but also the NT validates this:
"...there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold of him: And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked." (Mark 14:51-52). Was this the companion that Luke observed with Jesus inside the garden?

"...he that is courageous among the mighty shall flee away naked on that day..."(Amos 2:16----the Hebrew 'labab' translated 'flee away' here, actually means 'transported with love', and also 'ravished'). Now that certainly fits this episode of the young man fleeing away naked from Jesus outside the garden of Gethsemane.

Who was this young man if not perhaps the rich man whom "Then Jesus beholding him, loved him..."(Mark 10:21). Perhaps it was the rich man Lazarus, of whom "...he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth..."(John 11:11----The Greek 'philos' translated 'friend', also means 'dear' and 'fond of').

Source for Yehuda the Galilean christ :
The Galilean christ tax revolter Yehuda in the time of Herod was hated by Rome for his revolt but also the people Josephus wrote were bullied by Yehuda and his followers, if they paid the tax the flock would burn down their house or rob them
.


NOTE: Luke mentions him once, in



Acts 5:37, and Josephus several times, once here, sect. 6; and B. XX. ch. 5. sect. 2; Of the War, B. II. ch. 8. sect. 1; and ch. 17. sect. 8, calls this Judas, who was the pestilent author of that seditious doctrine and temper which brought the Jewish nation to utter destruction, a Galilean; but here (sect. 1) Josephus calls him a Gaulonite, of the city of Gamala; it is a great question where this Judas was born, whether in Galilee on the west side, or in Gaulonitis on the east side, of the river Jordan; while, in the place just now cited out of the Antiquities, B. XX. ch. 5. sect. 2, he is not only called a Galilean, but it is added to his story, "as I have signified in the books that go before these," as if he had still called him a Galilean in those Antiquities before, as well as in that particular place, as Dean Aldrich observes, Of the War, B. II. ch. 8. sect. 1.

Source for Yeshu son of Mary 100bc
Sources for the history of (Yeshu) Jesus: philosopher Celsus (178 CE) Christian writer Epiphanius (c.320-403 CE), the Christian apologist Origen (c.185-254 CE) Within the Talmud Shabbos 104, the gemara explicitly discusses the mother being Stada and the father being Pandera. Jerusalem Talmud (Avodah Zerah II 40d)and in the Tosefta on Hullin II, and (Sanhedrin 43a & 67a). This story is further expanded upon in the Tosefta and Baraitas.

2 accounts:
-Dr. Franz Hartman -
& Gerald Massey's Lectures Originally published in a private edition c. 1900

According to the Babylonian Gemara to the Mishna of Tract "Shabbath," this Jehoshua, the son of Pandira and Stada, was stoned to death as a wizard, in the city of Lud, or Lydda,
Jesus ben Stada (or Pandera) was placedin the time period of about 90 B.C. in Lydda, a town Peter is said tohave visited in ACTS.
Interestingly, the early church father Epiphanius around 400 said Pandera was the grandfather of Jesus.

The Widows mite acct in the NT is
a Jannaeus Alexander coin, not a Herod coin.

There was no Herod Killing Babies event, but Yeshu son of Mary in 100bc did flee the Jannaeus revolt towards Egypt with his mentor Rabbi Yohoshua ben Parachya.

This Rabbi is accurately dated as is King Jannaeus who's wife was Salome (friend & follower of Yeshu)who historically recorded reinstated appointed Shimon head priest(=shimon peter becomes head of the church).

The 100bc era, is the era where this Yeshu son of Mary stoned & was HANGED ON A TREE at Passover comes from.(NT accounts slew and hanging)

Rabbi Yehuda (Judas) ben Tabbai (same 100bc era)
who had a Witness killed, who conspired to testify falsely. Yehuda did this to show the Tziddukim they were wrong regarding a law, but made a mistake himself, which Shimon ben Shetach (his friend and eventual head priest appointed by Jannaeus' wife Salome)pointed out. He thus spent his life crying at the grave of his victim for forgiveness:
-Makkot 5b.

So you see Jesus isn't a singular historical figure and Yeshu being a small sliver of the accts the street peddler is peddling.
Rome created a new non Jewish name for the combined figure, because multiple characters can't hold their own historical name=they need a new name as a mask(they still do this with Popes so you don't trace back their true history background from the image they wish to project).
This idiot simply attributed it to a singular Jewish name that never fit those accts in that video based on Rome's mythical figure and didn't even come from the AD Pilate era. Once again the reason why the image of a man is given it's own new name.

Matthew 15:30
And large crowds came to Him, bringing with them those who were lame, crippled, blind, mute, and many others, and they laid them down at His feet; and He healed them.

Matthew 21:14
And the blind and the lame came to Him in the temple, and He healed them.

Luke 4:40
While the sun was setting, all those who had any who were sick with various diseases brought them to Him; and laying His hands on each one of them, He was healing them.

Luke 5:17
One day He was teaching; and there were some Pharisees and teachers of the law sitting there, who had come from every village of Galilee and Judea and from Jerusalem; and the power of the Lord was present for Him to perform healing.

Luke 9:11
But the crowds were aware of this and followed Him; and welcoming them, He began speaking to them about the kingdom of God and curing those who had need of healing.

Matthew 9:35
Jesus was going through all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues and proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every kind of disease and every kind of sickness.

Matthew 19:2
and large crowds followed Him, and He healed them there.

Mark 3:10
for He had healed many, with the result that all those who had afflictions pressed around Him in order to touch Him.

Mark 6:56
Wherever He entered villages, or cities, or countryside, they were laying the sick in the market places, and imploring Him that they might just touch the fringe of His cloak; and as many as touched it were being cured.

Luke 6:18
who had come to hear Him and to be healed of their diseases; and those who were troubled with unclean spirits were being cured.

Acts 10:38
You know of Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.

Luke 5:15
But the news about Him was spreading even farther, and large crowds were gathering to hear Him and to be healed of their sicknesses.

Mark 6:5
And He could do no miracle there except that He laid His hands on a few sick people and healed them.

Mark 7:37
They were utterly astonished, saying, “He has done all things well; He makes even the deaf to hear and the mute to speak.”

Matthew 8:7
Jesus *said to him, “I will come and heal him.”

Luke 13:32
And He said to them, “Go and tell that fox, ‘Behold, I cast out demons and perform cures today and tomorrow, and the third day I reach My goal.’

Acts 9:34
Peter said to him, “Aeneas, Jesus Christ heals you; get up and make your bed.” Immediately he got up.

Isaiah 53:5
But He was pierced through for our transgressions,
He was crushed for our iniquities;
The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him,
And by His scourging we are healed.

1 Peter 2:24
and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed.

Matthew 4:24
The news about Him spread throughout all Syria; and they brought to Him all who were ill, those suffering with various diseases and pains, demoniacs, epileptics, paralytics; and He healed them.

Matthew 8:8
But the centurion said, “Lord, I am not worthy for You to come under my roof, but just say the word, and my servant will be healed.

Matthew 9:21
for she was saying to herself, “If I only touch His garment, I will get well.”

Mark 1:34
And He healed many who were ill with various diseases, and cast out many demons; and He was not permitting the demons to speak, because they knew who He was.

Luke 6:17
Jesus came down with them and stood on a level place; and there was a large crowd of His disciples, and a great throng of people from all Judea and Jerusalem and the coastal region of Tyre and Sidon,

Luke 6:19
And all the people were trying to touch Him, for power was coming from Him and healing them all.

Luke 7:21
At that very time He cured many people of diseases and afflictions and evil spirits; and He gave sight to many who were blind.

John 5:11
But he answered them, “He who made me well was the one who said to me, ‘Pick up your pallet and walk.’”

John 6:2
A large crowd followed Him, because they saw the signs which He was performing on those who were sick.

Luke 4:23
And He said to them, “No doubt you will quote this proverb to Me, ‘Physician, heal yourself! Whatever we heard was done at Capernaum, do here in your hometown as well.’”

Luke 13:14
But the synagogue official, indignant because Jesus had healed on the Sabbath, began saying to the crowd in response, “There are six days in which work should be done; so come during them and get healed, and not on the Sabbath day.”

Matthew 12:10
And a man was there whose hand was withered. And they questioned Jesus, asking, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?”—so that they might accuse Him.

Luke 14:3
And Jesus answered and spoke to the lawyers and Pharisees, saying, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath, or not?”

Mark 3:2
They were watching Him to see if He would heal him on the Sabbath, so that they might accuse Him.

Luke 6:7
The scribes and the Pharisees were watching Him closely to see if He healed on the Sabbath, so that they might find reason to accuse Him.

John 7:23
If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath so that the Law of Moses will not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made an entire man well on the Sabbath?

John 9:14
Now it was a Sabbath on the day when Jesus made the clay and opened his eyes.

Matthew 12:10
And a man was there whose hand was withered. And they questioned Jesus, asking, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?”—so that they might accuse Him.

Reading the verses above, I would conclude that JESUS was/is no Benny Hill nor Benny Hinn.

The newly translated Gnostic gospel is a fake and I can only imagine why it appears now! The last Book of the NEW TESTAMENT is from about 95 AD and condemns any additional revelation for what it is ---- Satan's attempt to corrupt, distort, belittle, and confuse.

As for Origen, many believe that his use of Scripture compromised that authority, providing fertile conditions for the germination and growth of heresy. I would suggest that Origin's philosophical ideology was akin to Jehovah Witnesses, had he been alive today. And obviously, his self mutilation demonstrates a twisted understanding of scripture, the grace of GOD, and salvation through faith and not one's works of penance.

Luke probably never met Jesus or was in Palestine.. He makes such a mess of the geography that most scholars think he lived and wrote in Antioch.

Is Luke inept or is he far more acquainted with the topography of the region than yourself... Please see the following: Were the Gospel Writers Really Geographically Inept? | Is Jesus Alive?

Others have come to a different conclusion.

Did the author of Luke make a geographical blunder in Luke 4:29? | Is Jesus Alive?

Let's just say that Jesus' first sermon in his home city of Nazareth did not go over big. Reading out of Isaiah 61, Jesus announces that he's ...

isjesusalive.com

So which is correct, and what is their intention? Do they promote GOD? Do they promote themselves? Do they want the truth, or do they have itchy ears and seek excuses for their character?

We don't know the names of the gospel writers.. They have come to be called Matthew, Mark, Luke and Joh, but the were all written decades after the crucifixion.

They all existed decades before being written down, and they were all contemporary with the times, and not 'invented' or rewritten hundreds of years later. There are no anachronisms in the NT.

The gospels were written 70 to 120 A.D.

Word of mouth tends to degrade a narrative.

Early Christian Writings: New Testament, Apocrypha, Gnostics, Church Fathers

Not in an era where memorization was so important a basic skill to scholars and priests. The reason for writing it down was because it was spreading so fast there weren't enough scholars to handle it all, so it was spread by letters and scrolls early on.

 

[Meriweather]

Word of mouth tends to degrade a narrative.

In today's society, perhaps. In the days before written accounts were readily available, not so much. We lost a great skill with the advent of the written word. (Gained another one, but lost one as well.)

 

[surada]

Word of mouth tends to degrade a narrative.

In today's society, perhaps. In the days before written accounts were readily available, not so much. We lost a great skill with the advent of the written word. (Gained another one, but lost one as well.)

So you think the Gospels were memorized for 40-50 100 years before Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were written down?

 

[HaShev]

So who is the great Jewish leader?

You do realize the people in that video said my name more then the 100bc figures name (listen carefully and do a count).
Yeshu isn't the 1 attributed to all those verses, the 100bc figure Yeshu was a sorcerer maggi liken to Benny Hinn trick show and would you dare call Benny Hinn a physician?
The Galilean christ who died in 6bc is not the hanged on passover christ of 100bc and the AD era christ figure is not the Galilean christ, so the street performer is not an investigative hournalist nor knowledgable of actual History to know he's painting a combined portrait mythology of many real and plagiarized from the Bible figures.
None of those figures used for the Jesus accounts were good Jews.
Yeshu strayed as did his mother Mary. Yeshu taught Egyptian mysticsm and underworld teaching learned when fleeing the Jannaeus revolt towards Egypt.
Yehuda of Galilee was a tax revolter who's followers would harass & burn down and rob homes of people who paid the Roman tax, only if you are antifa would you be cool with that.
Theudas was bisexual (not the problem) but it was a problem that he was caught in a situation much like M.Jackson, as Jesus (theudas) was sleeping with a young boy most likely Lazarus (one of his lovers) he was caught fleeing naked out of Jesus' hut who was half naked (it's in the NT and Gnostic texts).
All 3 failed their revolts and at least 2 taught forbidden mysticsm (that the rays of light between the sun and earth were their God) and death cultism. Causing their followers and Jews in general to be dispersed and slain is not a rarionalist or intellectually honest view of a good Jew. That makes that illegal proselytizing street puppet a satanist(willing participent in darkness*) in belief and misguided portraits based on fallacies .
*(darkness=lies/folly/ignorance)
Source for bi Jesus
A newly translated Gnostic gospel, entitled The Secret Book of Judas of Kerioth, According to this seemingly authentic early Cainite-Ophite text, translated from the Coptic by Mohammed al-Murtada and Francis Bendik, said Jesus had an active bisexual love life,including relationswith John, Lazarus and Mary Magdelene.

Also validating that: is
in the missing portions of Mark it shows Jesus sleeping with a naked young rich man, but also the NT validates this:
"...there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold of him: And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked." (Mark 14:51-52). Was this the companion that Luke observed with Jesus inside the garden?

"...he that is courageous among the mighty shall flee away naked on that day..."(Amos 2:16----the Hebrew 'labab' translated 'flee away' here, actually means 'transported with love', and also 'ravished'). Now that certainly fits this episode of the young man fleeing away naked from Jesus outside the garden of Gethsemane.

Who was this young man if not perhaps the rich man whom "Then Jesus beholding him, loved him..."(Mark 10:21). Perhaps it was the rich man Lazarus, of whom "...he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth..."(John 11:11----The Greek 'philos' translated 'friend', also means 'dear' and 'fond of').

Source for Yehuda the Galilean christ :
The Galilean christ tax revolter Yehuda in the time of Herod was hated by Rome for his revolt but also the people Josephus wrote were bullied by Yehuda and his followers, if they paid the tax the flock would burn down their house or rob them
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NOTE: Luke mentions him once, in



Acts 5:37, and Josephus several times, once here, sect. 6; and B. XX. ch. 5. sect. 2; Of the War, B. II. ch. 8. sect. 1; and ch. 17. sect. 8, calls this Judas, who was the pestilent author of that seditious doctrine and temper which brought the Jewish nation to utter destruction, a Galilean; but here (sect. 1) Josephus calls him a Gaulonite, of the city of Gamala; it is a great question where this Judas was born, whether in Galilee on the west side, or in Gaulonitis on the east side, of the river Jordan; while, in the place just now cited out of the Antiquities, B. XX. ch. 5. sect. 2, he is not only called a Galilean, but it is added to his story, "as I have signified in the books that go before these," as if he had still called him a Galilean in those Antiquities before, as well as in that particular place, as Dean Aldrich observes, Of the War, B. II. ch. 8. sect. 1.

Source for Yeshu son of Mary 100bc
Sources for the history of (Yeshu) Jesus: philosopher Celsus (178 CE) Christian writer Epiphanius (c.320-403 CE), the Christian apologist Origen (c.185-254 CE) Within the Talmud Shabbos 104, the gemara explicitly discusses the mother being Stada and the father being Pandera. Jerusalem Talmud (Avodah Zerah II 40d)and in the Tosefta on Hullin II, and (Sanhedrin 43a & 67a). This story is further expanded upon in the Tosefta and Baraitas.

2 accounts:
-Dr. Franz Hartman -
& Gerald Massey's Lectures Originally published in a private edition c. 1900

According to the Babylonian Gemara to the Mishna of Tract "Shabbath," this Jehoshua, the son of Pandira and Stada, was stoned to death as a wizard, in the city of Lud, or Lydda,
Jesus ben Stada (or Pandera) was placedin the time period of about 90 B.C. in Lydda, a town Peter is said tohave visited in ACTS.
Interestingly, the early church father Epiphanius around 400 said Pandera was the grandfather of Jesus.

The Widows mite acct in the NT is
a Jannaeus Alexander coin, not a Herod coin.

There was no Herod Killing Babies event, but Yeshu son of Mary in 100bc did flee the Jannaeus revolt towards Egypt with his mentor Rabbi Yohoshua ben Parachya.

This Rabbi is accurately dated as is King Jannaeus who's wife was Salome (friend & follower of Yeshu)who historically recorded reinstated appointed Shimon head priest(=shimon peter becomes head of the church).

The 100bc era, is the era where this Yeshu son of Mary stoned & was HANGED ON A TREE at Passover comes from.(NT accounts slew and hanging)

Rabbi Yehuda (Judas) ben Tabbai (same 100bc era)
who had a Witness killed, who conspired to testify falsely. Yehuda did this to show the Tziddukim they were wrong regarding a law, but made a mistake himself, which Shimon ben Shetach (his friend and eventual head priest appointed by Jannaeus' wife Salome)pointed out. He thus spent his life crying at the grave of his victim for forgiveness:
-Makkot 5b.

So you see Jesus isn't a singular historical figure and Yeshu being a small sliver of the accts the street peddler is peddling.
Rome created a new non Jewish name for the combined figure, because multiple characters can't hold their own historical name=they need a new name as a mask(they still do this with Popes so you don't trace back their true history background from the image they wish to project).
This idiot simply attributed it to a singular Jewish name that never fit those accts in that video based on Rome's mythical figure and didn't even come from the AD Pilate era. Once again the reason why the image of a man is given it's own new name.

Matthew 15:30
And large crowds came to Him, bringing with them those who were lame, crippled, blind, mute, and many others, and they laid them down at His feet; and He healed them.

Matthew 21:14
And the blind and the lame came to Him in the temple, and He healed them.

Luke 4:40
While the sun was setting, all those who had any who were sick with various diseases brought them to Him; and laying His hands on each one of them, He was healing them.

Luke 5:17
One day He was teaching; and there were some Pharisees and teachers of the law sitting there, who had come from every village of Galilee and Judea and from Jerusalem; and the power of the Lord was present for Him to perform healing.

Luke 9:11
But the crowds were aware of this and followed Him; and welcoming them, He began speaking to them about the kingdom of God and curing those who had need of healing.

Matthew 9:35
Jesus was going through all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues and proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every kind of disease and every kind of sickness.

Matthew 19:2
and large crowds followed Him, and He healed them there.

Mark 3:10
for He had healed many, with the result that all those who had afflictions pressed around Him in order to touch Him.

Mark 6:56
Wherever He entered villages, or cities, or countryside, they were laying the sick in the market places, and imploring Him that they might just touch the fringe of His cloak; and as many as touched it were being cured.

Luke 6:18
who had come to hear Him and to be healed of their diseases; and those who were troubled with unclean spirits were being cured.

Acts 10:38
You know of Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.

Luke 5:15
But the news about Him was spreading even farther, and large crowds were gathering to hear Him and to be healed of their sicknesses.

Mark 6:5
And He could do no miracle there except that He laid His hands on a few sick people and healed them.

Mark 7:37
They were utterly astonished, saying, “He has done all things well; He makes even the deaf to hear and the mute to speak.”

Matthew 8:7
Jesus *said to him, “I will come and heal him.”

Luke 13:32
And He said to them, “Go and tell that fox, ‘Behold, I cast out demons and perform cures today and tomorrow, and the third day I reach My goal.’

Acts 9:34
Peter said to him, “Aeneas, Jesus Christ heals you; get up and make your bed.” Immediately he got up.

Isaiah 53:5
But He was pierced through for our transgressions,
He was crushed for our iniquities;
The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him,
And by His scourging we are healed.

1 Peter 2:24
and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed.

Matthew 4:24
The news about Him spread throughout all Syria; and they brought to Him all who were ill, those suffering with various diseases and pains, demoniacs, epileptics, paralytics; and He healed them.

Matthew 8:8
But the centurion said, “Lord, I am not worthy for You to come under my roof, but just say the word, and my servant will be healed.

Matthew 9:21
for she was saying to herself, “If I only touch His garment, I will get well.”

Mark 1:34
And He healed many who were ill with various diseases, and cast out many demons; and He was not permitting the demons to speak, because they knew who He was.

Luke 6:17
Jesus came down with them and stood on a level place; and there was a large crowd of His disciples, and a great throng of people from all Judea and Jerusalem and the coastal region of Tyre and Sidon,

Luke 6:19
And all the people were trying to touch Him, for power was coming from Him and healing them all.

Luke 7:21
At that very time He cured many people of diseases and afflictions and evil spirits; and He gave sight to many who were blind.

John 5:11
But he answered them, “He who made me well was the one who said to me, ‘Pick up your pallet and walk.’”

John 6:2
A large crowd followed Him, because they saw the signs which He was performing on those who were sick.

Luke 4:23
And He said to them, “No doubt you will quote this proverb to Me, ‘Physician, heal yourself! Whatever we heard was done at Capernaum, do here in your hometown as well.’”

Luke 13:14
But the synagogue official, indignant because Jesus had healed on the Sabbath, began saying to the crowd in response, “There are six days in which work should be done; so come during them and get healed, and not on the Sabbath day.”

Matthew 12:10
And a man was there whose hand was withered. And they questioned Jesus, asking, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?”—so that they might accuse Him.

Luke 14:3
And Jesus answered and spoke to the lawyers and Pharisees, saying, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath, or not?”

Mark 3:2
They were watching Him to see if He would heal him on the Sabbath, so that they might accuse Him.

Luke 6:7
The scribes and the Pharisees were watching Him closely to see if He healed on the Sabbath, so that they might find reason to accuse Him.

John 7:23
If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath so that the Law of Moses will not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made an entire man well on the Sabbath?

John 9:14
Now it was a Sabbath on the day when Jesus made the clay and opened his eyes.

Matthew 12:10
And a man was there whose hand was withered. And they questioned Jesus, asking, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?”—so that they might accuse Him.

Reading the verses above, I would conclude that JESUS was/is no Benny Hill nor Benny Hinn.

The newly translated Gnostic gospel is a fake and I can only imagine why it appears now! The last Book of the NEW TESTAMENT is from about 95 AD and condemns any additional revelation for what it is ---- Satan's attempt to corrupt, distort, belittle, and confuse.

As for Origen, many believe that his use of Scripture compromised that authority, providing fertile conditions for the germination and growth of heresy. I would suggest that Origin's philosophical ideology was akin to Jehovah Witnesses, had he been alive today. And obviously, his self mutilation demonstrates a twisted understanding of scripture, the grace of GOD, and salvation through faith and not one's works of penance.

Luke probably never met Jesus or was in Palestine.. He makes such a mess of the geography that most scholars think he lived and wrote in Antioch.

Is Luke inept or is he far more acquainted with the topography of the region than yourself... Please see the following: Were the Gospel Writers Really Geographically Inept? | Is Jesus Alive?

Others have come to a different conclusion.

Did the author of Luke make a geographical blunder in Luke 4:29? | Is Jesus Alive?

Let's just say that Jesus' first sermon in his home city of Nazareth did not go over big. Reading out of Isaiah 61, Jesus announces that he's ...

isjesusalive.com

So which is correct, and what is their intention? Do they promote GOD? Do they promote themselves? Do they want the truth, or do they have itchy ears and seek excuses for their character?

We don't know the names of the gospel writers.. They have come to be called Matthew, Mark, Luke and Joh, but the were all written decades after the crucifixion.

They all existed decades before being written down, and they were all contemporary with the times, and not 'invented' or rewritten hundreds of years later. There are no anachronisms in the NT.

None of the gospels were written by the men who's names they are attributed to, this is admitted by the church fathers and written about by people like Cardinal Newman.
Now think rationally, if surviving Branch Davidians wrote books in the name of dead Davidians claiming their belief and trust in David Koresh to lead them to the kingdom, is that fair since their opinion in death changes to "we hoped him to be the one, but he failed to deliver us and brought us to the firey pit instead."
*Most of that quote except the last part commentary was said about Jesus in an earlier edition portion of Luke that was removed for obvious damaging reasons just like the removal of doubting Thomas.

This giving up on the christ due to his revolt failure is in of all places John 6:66