Zone1 Israel leadership is SECULAR vs Talmudic pious Jews

[Thethingsz]

Per my friends who are Jewish:

1. One of the reasons, Haredim don't serve in IDF is because of pious conviction.

2. The other reason is, most Haredim don't use weapons

 

[Pastelli]

Per my friends who are Jewish:

1. One of the reasons, Haredim don't serve in IDF is because of pious conviction.

2. The other reason is, most Haredim don't use weapons

And, knowing all that, racist Arab Palestinian terrorists still target non-Zionist Haredim.

 

[Thethingsz]

And, knowing all that, racist Arab Palestinian terrorists still target non-Zionist Haredim.

Also, Palestinian Authority has, for years, used nazi cartoon drawing non Zionist Jews.

 

[DennisPTate]

Per my friends who are Jewish:

1. One of the reasons, Haredim don't serve in IDF is because of pious conviction.

2. The other reason is, most Haredim don't use weapons

Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus asked a question on one occasion that is related to this topic.

1And He entered the synagogue again, and a man was there who had a withered hand. 2So they watched Him closely, whether He would heal him on the Sabbath, so that they might accuse Him. 3And He said to the man who had the withered hand, “Step forward.” 4Then He said to them, “Is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good or to do evil, to save life or to kill?” But they kept silent. 5And when He had looked around at them with anger, being grieved by the hardness of their hearts, He said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” And he stretched it out, and his hand was restored as whole as the other. 6Then the Pharisees went out and immediately plotted with the Herodians against Him, how they might destroy Him.

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Healing on the SabbathAnd #Matt. 12:9–14; Luke 6:6–11He entered the synagogue again, and a man was there who had a withered hand. So they #(Ps. 37:32); Luke 14:1; 20:20watched Him closely,

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"Did Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus back up the Machabees in their decision to fight back, even on the Sabbath, if Jews were attacked by Greco-Syrian armies on the Sabbath?

Are there any ways in which this question could be applicable to moder events, such as The Yom Kippur War for example"

Was Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus, [Isa the Prophet, peace be upon Him, to Muslims], saying that a police officer or soldier is free to take a life in defence of an innocent person, even on the Sabbath?

Yes, that is exactly what i think He was saying!


I believe that my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge, so I go online and fight and fight and fight against ignorance and false ideas every Sabbath."

[I Book of Machabees, chapter two] :

And it was told to the king's men, and to the army that was in Jerusalem in the city of David, that certain men who had broken the king's commandment, were gone away into the secret places in the wilderness, and that many were gone after them. 32 And forthwith they went out towards them, and made war against them on the sabbath day, 33 And they said to them: Do you still resist? come forth, and do according to the edict of king Antiochus, and you shall live. 34 And they said: We will not come forth, neither will we obey the king's edict, to profane the sabbath day. 35 And they made haste to give them battle.

36 But they answered them not, neither did they cast a stone at them, nor stopped up the secret places, 37 Saying: Let us all die in our innocency: and heaven and earth shall be witnesses for us, that you put us to death wrongfully. 38 So they gave them battle on the sabbath: and they were slain with their wives, and their children, and their cattle, to the number of a thousand persons. 39 And Mathathias and his friends heard of it, and they mourned for them exceedingly. 40 And every man said to his neighbour: If we shall all do as our brethren have done, and not fight against the heathens for our lives, and our justifications: they will now quickly root us out of the earth.

41 And they determined in that day, saying: Whosoever shall come up against us to fight on the sabbath day, we will fight against him: and we will not all die, as our brethren that were slain in the secret places. 42 Then was assembled to them the congregation of the Assideans, the stoutest of Israel, every one that had a good will for the law. 43 And all they that fled from the evils, joined themselves to them, and were a support to them. 44 And they gathered an army, and slew the sinners in their wrath, and the wicked men in their indignation: and the rest fled to the nations for safety. 45 And Mathathias and his friends went round about, and they threw down the altars:

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Zone1 Thread '"Is it lawful on the Sabbath, to save life or to kill? [Rabbi Yeshua]'

Nov 22, 2025

Did Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus back up the Machabees in their decision to fight back, even on the Sabbath, if Jews were attacked by Greco-Syrian armies on the Sabbath?

Are there any ways in which this question could be applicable to moder events, such as The Yom Kippur War for example"

Was Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus, [Isa the Prophet, peace be upon Him, to Muslims], saying that a police officer or soldier is free to take a life in defence of an innocent person, even on the Sabbath?

Yes, that is exactly what i think He was saying!


I believe that my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge, so I...

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[Thethingsz]

Rabbi Yeshua -

Christian icon Charlie Kirk realized the power of keeling Sabbath.