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[rylah]

if you want to believe that God planned for Rebekah to deceive Isaac to keep the promise that God made to Abraham and Isaac, be my guest. I'll continue to believe that if Rebekah had trusted in God and passed God's test that God would have made it so Isaac changed his mind and gave Jacob God's blessing. Just like God found a way for Abraham to not kill Isaac.

Perhaps you think God should follow your religion...

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But Esau I hated, And made his mountains a desolation, And gave his heritage to the jackals of the...

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Perhaps you think God should follow your religion...

Malachi 1:3 | Sefaria Library

But Esau I hated, And made his mountains a desolation, And gave his heritage to the jackals of the...

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Jesus summarized all laws as loving God wholeheartedly and loving one's neighbor as oneself. Was he wrong?

 

[rylah]

Jesus summarized all laws as loving God wholeheartedly and loving one's neighbor as oneself. Was he wrong?

That is wrong, and a corruption of the original saying by Hillel:
"What is hated by you, don't do to your fellow."

Not a surprise coming from a schizoid who cursed
all humanity to eternal hell for not following him.

Perhaps God doesn't fit your religion?

 

[Lisa558]

That is wrong, and a corruption of the original saying by Hillel:
"What is hated by you, don't do to your fellow."

Not a surprise coming from a schizoid who cursed
all humanity to eternal hell for not following him.

Perhaps God doesn't fit your religion?

Actually, I don’t believe Jesus cursed all humanity to hell for not thinking he was the son of Gd. No Jewish man would think that way.

That came AFTER, as the new Christians tried to scare the Jews into abandoning Judaism.

 

[rylah]

Actually, I don’t believe Jesus cursed all humanity to hell for not thinking he was the son of Gd. No Jewish man would think that way.

That came AFTER, as the new Christians tried to scare the Jews into abandoning Judaism.

Well, if we're into historic speculations,

there's also a place to ask whether Josephus,

was one side of the same coin which built Yavneh.

While one side went underground to ensure Jewish continuity,
the other went into Judaizing Rome against its gods and id[e]ology.
Perhaps the destruction of the Temple didn't turn Judeans more docile.

 

[BreezeWood]

Actually, I don’t believe Jesus cursed all humanity to hell for not thinking he was the son of Gd. No Jewish man would think that way.

how charitable -

in fact jesus refuted judaism moses phony commandments used to persecute and victimize the innocent while living and never claimed being the jew messiah as being a fallacy nor its equivalency of jewish hereditary idolatry used as their personal ticket to divinity.

 

[ding]

That is wrong, and a corruption of the original saying by Hillel:
"What is hated by you, don't do to your fellow."

So you disagree with Hillel too?

Not a surprise coming from a schizoid who cursed
all humanity to eternal hell for not following him.

Perhaps God doesn't fit your religion?

If you were secure in your beliefs and in yourself you would have no need to use insults on people who believe differently than you?

Judaism strictly prohibits insulting others, viewing it as a serious transgression that demeans a person created in God's image. Disagreements are encouraged, but must be for the "sake of heaven"—focused on truth, respect, and constructive outcomes—rather than for ego or destruction. Engaging in harsh speech, known as Loshon Hara (evil tongue), is forbidden.

Key Teachings on Insults and Disagreement:

• Do Not Shame Others: The Talmud states that humiliating someone is akin to shedding blood (Bava Metzia 58b). The Mishnah teaches, "Do not insult any man... for there is no man who does not have his day" (Avos 4:3).
• Arguments for the Sake of Heaven: Disagreement is seen as a way to reach greater wisdom, exemplified by the respectful, constructive debates between Hillel and Shammai.
• The Prohibition of Loshon Hara: Speaking badly about someone, even if it is true, is forbidden.
• Turning the Other Cheek: The ideal, according to the Talmud, is to be among those who are insulted but do not insult others in return (Yoma 23a).
• Handling Conflict: If one must rebuke another, it should be done privately, gently, and with the goal of improvement rather than humiliation.

In short, Jewish law emphasizes upholding the dignity of all individuals, encouraging respectful debate, and avoiding personal attacks even in disagreement.

 

[rylah]

So you disagree with Hillel too?

If you were secure in your beliefs and in yourself you would have no need to use insults on people who believe differently than you?

Judaism strictly prohibits insulting others, viewing it as a serious transgression that demeans a person created in God's image. Disagreements are encouraged, but must be for the "sake of heaven"—focused on truth, respect, and constructive outcomes—rather than for ego or destruction. Engaging in harsh speech, known as Loshon Hara (evil tongue), is forbidden.

Key Teachings on Insults and Disagreement:

• Do Not Shame Others: The Talmud states that humiliating someone is akin to shedding blood (Bava Metzia 58b). The Mishnah teaches, "Do not insult any man... for there is no man who does not have his day" (Avos 4:3).
• Arguments for the Sake of Heaven: Disagreement is seen as a way to reach greater wisdom, exemplified by the respectful, constructive debates between Hillel and Shammai.
• The Prohibition of Loshon Hara: Speaking badly about someone, even if it is true, is forbidden.
• Turning the Other Cheek: The ideal, according to the Talmud, is to be among those who are insulted but do not insult others in return (Yoma 23a).
• Handling Conflict: If one must rebuke another, it should be done privately, gently, and with the goal of improvement rather than humiliation.

In short, Jewish law emphasizes upholding the dignity of all individuals, encouraging respectful debate, and avoiding personal attacks even in disagreement.

Reading comprehension 101.

Exposing the corruption of Hillel's quote by your idol is not disagreement with Hillel.
And the prohibition of Lashon Hara, as in the original phrase by Hillel refers to a fellow,
rather than a schizoid who sees himself a god to be worshipped or cursed to eternal hell.

Which is why Hillel also established 18 laws to distance Jews from this corrupt idol worship.
And the Sages themselves were careful to mention the exact developmental diagnosis,
no less than they did with the illiterate Arabian madman.

Better feel your intelligence insulted
by worshipping a wooden statue.

 

[Lisa558]

how charitable -

in fact jesus refuted judaism moses phony commandments used to persecute and victimize the innocent while living and never claimed being the jew messiah as being a fallacy nor its equivalency of jewish hereditary idolatry used as their personal ticket to divinity.

Another antisemite speaketh.

 

[ding]

Reading comprehension 101.

Exposing the corruption of Hillel's quote by your idol is not disagreement with Hillel.
And the prohibition of Lashon Hara, as in the original phrase by Hillel refers to a fellow,
rather than a schizoid who sees himself a god to be worshipped or cursed to eternal hell.

Which is why Hillel also established 18 laws to distance Jews from this corrupt idol worship.
And the Sages themselves were careful to mention the exact developmental diagnosis,
no less than they did with the illiterate Arabian madman.

Better feel your intelligence insulted
by worshipping a wooden statue.

I'm not sure how you can reconcile your behaviors with your beliefs.

 

[rylah]

I'm not sure how you can reconcile your behaviors with your beliefs.

Is gaslighting the default of the eternal hell "loving" dogma?

What you can't reconcile, is God's blessing
for the deeds of the Israelite forefathers.
And apparently they didn't ask a pope.

 

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Is gaslighting the default of the eternal hell "loving" dogma?

What you can't reconcile, is God's blessing
for the deeds of the Israelite forefathers.
And apparently they didn't ask a pope.

My religion shouldn't drive you to behave this way.

 

[rylah]

My religion shouldn't drive you to behave this way.

How many deaths has your religion brought
in the name of said "peace"?

Esau can impress Ishmael,
but doesn't fool Jacob.

 

[ding]

How many deaths has your religion brought
in the name of said "peace"?

Esau can impress Ishmael,
but doesn't fool Jacob.

My religion shouldn't drive you to behave this way.

 

[DennisPTate]

That is wrong, and a corruption of the original saying by Hillel:
"What is hated by you, don't do to your fellow."

Not a surprise coming from a schizoid who cursed
all humanity to eternal hell for not following him.

Perhaps God doesn't fit your religion?

Or could it be that the message got somewhat hijacked....
but will be clarified in these "latter days?"

h. Who goes to heaven?​

In the end … believe it or not (sigh of relief), everyone gets to come home! Heaven is a place of ultimate LOVE. When we have learned how to become individuals that base our entire existence and consciousness around manifesting LOVE, we then become capable of entering the domain of the higher realms of heaven. If we do not practice love, we can only go so far and we will be made to incarnate somewhere out there in God’s super universe again and again (unlimited times) until we learn.

Lots of things! Individuals are laughing, relaxing and enjoying one another’s company. Some are off working together in pairs (or larger), so that they might bring a new concept or idea, or accomplish a divinely intended goal for the planet. Some are off to themselves reflecting in far away, peaceful places and learning how to work with and trust the power they hold within them. Others form close-knit groups and enjoy learning together as they are taught by various loving, advanced teachers and guides of spirit. The Realm is a real happening place I can tell you that! I always laugh when I think of society’s image of heaven as little cherubs sitting around playing harps on clouds. Ahhhh … it’s a whole lot more intense than that!

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There is evidence that time branches. Ezekiel chapter thirty seven could perhaps happen again and again and again as new time lines are spun off in order to save more and more of those of us who fell into darkness in another time line.