Zone1 The Great Difficulty Of Being Religious.....

[Woodznutz]

Do you have proof of the god in your anatomy studies?

What does the actual evidence suggest?

 

[Woodznutz]

Your subconscious mind still wants to believe that the god bring fire and brimstone to non-believers.

But your conscious mind understands very well that it's bullsh-t!

Can you affirm the first sentence?

 

[Donald H]

Intelligent design doesn't happen without an intelligent designer. Evolution would create a 'Frankencritter'.

Kitzmiller v. Dover was a legal case in 2005 that tested the teaching of "intelligent design" in public schools. The court ruled that requiring teachers to teach both Intelligent Design and evolution violated the First Amendment, as "intelligent design" was found to be a form of creationism.

National Center for Science Education+4

 

[Donald H]

Can you affirm the first sentence?

You already did when you said you wouldn't stand next to me......... etc. blah, blah, blah......................

Were you being allegorical?

I'll accept that as an excuse for thinking silly sh-t!

 

[Woodznutz]

You already did when you said you wouldn't stand next to me......... etc. blah, blah, blah......................

Were you being allegorical?

I'll accept that as an excuse for thinking silly sh-t!

It's a time-honored humorous quip that most understand.

 

[Woodznutz]

Kitzmiller v. Dover was a legal case in 2005 that tested the teaching of "intelligent design" in public schools. The court ruled that requiring teachers to teach both Intelligent Design and evolution violated the First Amendment, as "intelligent design" was found to be a form of creationism.
National Center for Science Education+4

I have no problem with that.
I was taught evolution in HS biology class, got good grades, didn't believe a word of it.

 

[BreezeWood]

Anatomy studies, whether of man or animals renders evolution to "very silly lies".

lies are the tools for the desert dwellers and their written bibles - claims of heavenly persuasion ...

which is the more complicated evolution, the above or a modern mammal 3 billion years latter ....

 

[Meriweather]

Then keep the two beliefs, allegory and literal truth separate. When challenged with no acceptance of the bible being not literally true, don't turn to allegorical excuses to excuse it.

I've noted this time and again as well: Literal truth is presented in the Bible in many different forms. You sturdy the allegorical symbols overlook the lesson/truths.

your feigned rejection of evolution

You've forgotten. I do not reject evolution. I teach evolution. The unit on evolution has as much to do with my philosophy as does the unit on weather. Or, are you also imagining I reject weather.

 

[ding]

The religious being all nutjobs is a bit over the top I think.

Rather, they were indoctrinated as innocent children into the faith.

Is this an example of the intellectual brilliance of militant atheists?

 

[Donald H]

I've noted this time and again as well: Literal truth is presented in the Bible in many different forms. You sturdy the allegorical symbols overlook the lesson/truths.

I understand what you meant to say. Do you have an example of literal truth being presented in the bible, that I don't understand as such?
Now you're being asked to present your case. And you can continue to trust that I'm sincere and not closeminded about the possibility.

You've forgotten. I do not reject evolution. I teach evolution.

No, I didn't forget and I've reminded you repeatedly that you accept evolution!

The unit on evolution has as much to do with my philosophy as does the unit on weather. Or, are you also imagining I reject weather.

If you are talking about your every day life then I can accept the comparison.
On this forum I perceive it as being as dishonest as your diversion to the Chinchillas.

You, as compared to other Christians, are totally involved with defending 'creation'. Or rather 'the faith' if that works better for you?

Evolution stands in the way of faith

And now please!
Do you have an example of literal truth being presented in the bible, that I don't understand as such?

 

[Meriweather]

On this forum I perceive it as being as dishonest as your diversion to the Chinchillas

We're through.

 

[Donald H]

We're through.

I understand what you meant to say. Do you have an example of literal truth being presented in the bible, that I don't understand as such?

I have asked the question many times, but in a different form. I suspected there would be no answer from you.

Why?

Because there is no example in the bibles of literal truth that can't be proven to be literally false.

No, we're not through and that's because you can't allow it to be finished. The answer to the question is a part of you, and it's not possible for you to dismiss it.

We can still be friends! No other atheist has ever treated you with as much respect, kindness, and understanding.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Actually, it was God's will that they ate of the tree else he wouldn't have allowed it.

Not the Media's Retarded Meaning of "Begging the Question"

"God wouldn't let us believe in Him if He didn't exist."

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Genesis, Chapter 3. This chapter does not address the nutrition value of plants. It addresses obedience, and the knowledge of both good and evil.

Logos Has No Logic

Refuted by the fact that A&E couldn't have known that they would be doing an evil thing if they ate from that tree, because before they did, they had no knowledge of what is good and what is evil.

 

[Meriweather]

Refuted by the fact that A&E couldn't have known that they would be doing an evil thing if they ate from that tree, because before they did, they had no knowledge of what is good and what is evil.

Read again. Adam and Eve were briefed not to eat the fruit in the center of the garden. The tempter said that this fruit could not hurt them, they would become like God, knowing both what is good and what is evil.
Genesis 3:6 - The woman saw that the tree was good for food, pleasing to the eyes, and desirable for gaining wisdom.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

at the National Atheist convention about 15 years ago, they put up the schedule or speakers and seminars, and it was a litany of leftwing pet causes: Climate change, gay stuff, all of it. And they had a time in the evening to arrange hook ups.

You Can't Defend Theism with "We're Not These People"

Wall Street hero Ayn Rand is also an atheist. By excluding her cult, they proved that they weren't really about what they were preaching.

Pretty much all politics is Chickenhawk hypocrisy with ulterior motives, which the Atheists exposed about Theism just so they could look like they didn't have WOKE as their sole alternative to it.

 

[Donald H]

Kenneth Copeland's life sentence doesn't make it any easier for Christians.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

lies are the tools for the desert dwellers and their written bibles - claims of heavenly persuasion ...


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which is the more complicated evolution, the above or a modern mammal 3 billion years later ....

The Bullies Give Us Choices, but "None of the Above" Is Never One of Them

The rulers are above, but they belong below. They always make us believe there are no alternatives to the speakers they hire for both irrational and pushy sides. For example, we're not even allowed to discuss whether Intelligent Self-Design is possible.

Both fake sides have a contempt for human intelligence and creativity. The rulers don't want to believe that humans are capable of controlling outside circumstances, because if they let us believe we could, we would overthrow this Leviathan.

 

[Mashmont]

Kenneth Copeland's life sentence doesn't make it any easier for Christians.

What any fallible man does or doesn't do has no bearing on the perfect teachings of Jesus.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Read again. Adam and Eve were briefed not to eat the fruit in the center of the garden. The tempter said that this fruit could not hurt them, they would become like God, knowing both what is good and what is evil.
Genesis 3:6 - The woman saw that the tree was good for food, pleasing to the eyes, and desirable for gaining wisdom.

We're Descended from a Bimbo and a Horndog

The second absurdity is that if Jehovah could tell them it was evil to eat the fruit, He could tell them everything else that was good or evil. So Eve, if she had been a believable character instead of a cartoon, would have told Satan. "Why would I want to eat it? I already know which is good or evil, because this voice in my head I call "God" always tells me what's good and what isn't."