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Yes they did. On 2 occasions. It wasnt some random GOP person they were both the chairmen of the RNC when they admitted to it. Theres absolutely nothing you can say that refute this. Anything you say is just an indicator of willful ignorance and places you on the bench as a serious interlocutor.None of that. I just believe the GOP when they admitted to the southern strategy. I guess someone forgot to tell you they admitted to it?IKR? To think the southern strategy would forever move those very same democratic voters to the republican party is pretty amazing. Glad you agree.The only thing you've ever proven is that you are retarded. The confederate losers attacked Ft Sumter first on April 12, 1861 and got their asses beat down in the end.Wrong. I have already proven they didn't. Lincoln invaded Virginia.Hey retard. The confederate losers started the war and they seceded.The federal were fighting to preserve the union, you fucking moron. No one said the Confederacy was. The were trying to secede.That was their reason for secession. I agree. It's undeniable.They were wrong, the reason they left was because of a perceived threat to Slavery when in fact they had as much clout in the Congress as they did BEFORE lincoln was elected and a President alone could not change the Constitution nor state laws. They were worried that 20 years down the line Free States would out number the slave states enough to effect slavery, and instead of fighting politically to prevent that they instead cut their own throats and ended slavery in 3 years not 20.To me Confederate flags honor family members who died honorably fighting bravely for a good cause.
Fighting against the United States of America and in support of maintaining slavery is a good cause?
The simple fact is that the South wanted to self govern. You can argue the reason they wanted to self govern until the cows come home, it really doesn't matter. They no longer recognized the authority of Washington DC just as the USA no longer recognized the authority of the Crown 80 years prior.
To state their cause was "wrong" is to state our cause was wrong in 1776, because they only difference is the USA won it's war for independence.
*Sigh* Read the post again - the REASON is irrelevant. They wanted independence and they fought for it. Same as we did in 1776. If they were "wrong", so were we.You all obviously want that to be the case. That's what the lost cause bullshit was meant to do. To change the narrative.the REASON is irrelevant.
Its not irrelevant. Not at all.
The reason, the self stated reason by the confederate states, is exactly why those monuments and statues are being removed.
Do people have the right to self-determination or not?Apparently the negros didn't.Do people have the right to self-determination or not?
Sure they did. But the vast majority of them chose not to fight for it.
But you didn't answer the question: Do people have the right to self-determination or not?Liar.Sure they did. But the vast majority of them chose not to fight for it.
Your revisionist bullshit isn't gonna fly.
The war, for the confederacy was first and foremost about the preservation of their perceived racial superiority, slavery and the economic advanges thereof. As always, don't take my word for it. Take theirs.
There is nothing else. The fact that the average rube, not unlike yourself, never understood that is irrelevant to the fact that they were indeed fighting toward those ends.
Which of those self stated principles of the confederacy, racial superiority, slavery or the economic exploitation of said slaves through forced labor, deserve continued veneration in American society today?
It was NOT the reason for the war, which was to keep the union together.That was their reason for secession. I agree. It's undeniable.
It was NOT the reason for the war, which was to keep the union together
Derp....
The reason for the confederacy, fool. They weren't fighting to preserve the union. They were fighting to preserve their way of life.
The confederate states threatened civil war for years over the movement toward abolition. They started the war.
How much of a dumbass can you be ?
Yes.....the democrat party fired on The United States, in order to keep Blacks as slaves.........you are correct. Lincoln, the Republican President said he would take no action against the democrat party, who declared separaton from the United States in order to keep Blacks as slaves. Then, the democrat party, being insane assholes that they are to this day, fired on the United States......and started the Civil War, in order to keep Blacks as slaves.
It didn't....... you have been shown how that lie was created...and yet you still believe it....are you dumb, or do you just drink a lot?
Nixonâs Southern Strategy: The Democrat-Lie Keeping Their Control Over the Black Community | Black Quill and Ink
Ken Raymond
Jun 2011
Richard Nixonâs âSouthern Strategyâ, which the democrats say is the reason black people had to support them during the 1960â˛sâis a lie.
And itâs probably the biggest lie thatâs been told to the blacks since Woodrow Wilson segregated the federal government after getting the NAACP to support him.
After talking with black voters across the country about why they overwhelmingly supports democrats, the common answer thatâs emerges is the Southern Strategy.
Iâve heard of the Southern Strategy too. But since it doesnât make a difference in how I decide to vote, I never bothered to research it. But apparently it still influences how many African Americans vote today. That makes it worth investigating.
For those that might be unfamiliar with the Southern Strategy, Iâll briefly review the story. After the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, most blacks registered as democrats and itâs been that way ever since.
And that doesnât make any sense when you consider the fact that it was the democrats that established, and fought for, Jim Crow laws and segregation in the first place. And the republicans have a very noble history of fighting for the civil rights of blacks.
The reason black people moved to the democrats, given by media pundits and educational institutions for the decades, is that when republican presidential candidate Richard Nixon ran for president in 1968, he employed a racist plan thatâs now infamously called the Southern Strategy.
The Southern Strategy basically means Nixon allegedly used hidden code words that appealed to the racists within the Democrat party and throughout the south. This secret language caused a seismic shift in the electoral landscape that moved the evil racist democrats into the republican camp and the noble-hearted republicans into the democrat camp.
And hereâs what I found, Nixon did not use a plan to appeal to racist white voters.
First, letâs look at the presidential candidates of 1968. Richard Nixon was the republican candidate; Hubert Humphrey was the democrat nominee; and George Wallace was a third party candidate.
Remember George Wallace? Wallace was the democrat governor of Alabama from 1963 until 1967. And it was Wallace that ordered the Eugene âBullâ Connor, and the police department, to attack Dr. Martin Luther King
Jr. and 2,500 protesters in Montgomery , Alabama in 1965. And it was Governor Wallace that ordered a blockade at the admissions office at the University of Alabama to prevent blacks from enrolling in 1963.
Governor Wallace was a true racist and a determined segregationist. And he ran as the nominee from the American Independent Party, which was he founded.
Richard Nixon wrote about the 1968 campaign in his book RN: the Memoirs of Richard Nixon originally published in 1978.
In his book, Nixon wrote this about campaigning in the south, âThe deep south had to be virtually conceded to George Wallace. I could not match him there without compromising on civil rights, which I would not do.â
The media coverage of the 1968 presidential race also showed that Nixon was in favor of the Civil Rights and would not compromise on that issue. For example, in an article published in theWashington Post on September 15, 1968 headlined âNixon Sped Integration, Wallace saysâ Wallace declared that Nixon agreed with Supreme Court Justice Earl Warren and played a role in âthe destruction of public school system.â Wallace pledged to restore the school system, in the same article, by giving it back to the states âlock, stock, and barrel.â
This story, as well as Nixonâs memoirs and other news stories during that campaign, shows that Nixon was very clear about his position on civil rights. And if Nixon was used code words only racists could hear, evidently George Wallace couldnât hear it.
Among the southern states, George Wallace won Arkansas , Mississippi , Alabama , Georgia and Louisiana . Nixon won North Carolina , South Carolina , Florida , Virginia , and Tennessee . Winning those states were part of Nixonâs plan.
âI would not concede the Carolina âs, Florida , or Virginia or the states around the rim of the south,âNixon wrote. âThese states were a part of my plan.â
At that time, the entire southern region was the poorest in the country. The south consistently lagged behind the rest of the United States in income. And according to the
âU.S. Regional Growth and Convergence,â by Kris James Mitchener and Ian W. McLean, per capita income for southerners was almost half as much as it was for Americans in other regions.
Nixon won those states strictly on economic issues. He focused on increasing tariffs on foreign imports to protect the manufacturing and agriculture industries of those states. Some southern elected officials agreed to support him for the sake of their economies, including South Carolina Senator Strom Thurmond.
âI had been consulting privately with Thurmond for several months and I was convinced that heâd join my campaign if he were satisfied on the two issues of paramount concern to him: national defense and tariffs against textile imports to protect South Carolina âs position in the industry.âNixon wrote in his memoirs.
In fact, Nixon made it clear to the southern elected officials that he would not compromise on the civil rights issue.
âOn civil rights, Thurmond knew my position was very different from his,â Nixon wrote. âI was for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and he was against it. Although he disagreed with me, he respected my sincerity and candor.â
The same scenario played out among elected officials and voters in other southern states won by Nixon. They laid their feelings aside and supported him because of his economic platformâânot because Nixon sent messages on a frequency only racists can hear.
They didn't admit to the southern strategy......one GOP coward thought he would gain points with morons like you by apologizing for it........since it didn't happen, it simply shows he was a huge coward...
""Some Republicans gave up on winning the African-American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization," Mehlman said at the annual convention of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. "I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong."
Mehlman's apology to the NAACP at the group's convention in Milwaukee marked the first time a top Republican Party leader has denounced the so-called Southern Strategy employed by Richard Nixon and other Republicans to peel away white voters in what was then the heavily Democratic South."
Michael Steele: For Decades GOP Pursued 'Southern Strategy' That Alienated Minorities
Michael Steele: For Decades GOP Pursued 'Southern Strategy' That Alienated Minoritieswww.huffpost.com
"For the last 40-plus years we had a âSouthern Strategyâ that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male vote in the South. Well, guess what happened in 1992, folks, âBubbaâ went back home to the Democratic Party and voted for Bill Clinton"
Why reach out to a voting bloc that will vote against you 90% of the time. Southern's regret voting for Clinton in 1992.Yes they did. On 2 occasions. It wasnt some random GOP person they were both the chairmen of the RNC when they admitted to it. Theres absolutely nothing you can say that refute this. Anything you say is just an indicator of willful ignorance and places you on the bench as a serious interlocutor.None of that. I just believe the GOP when they admitted to the southern strategy. I guess someone forgot to tell you they admitted to it?IKR? To think the southern strategy would forever move those very same democratic voters to the republican party is pretty amazing. Glad you agree.The only thing you've ever proven is that you are retarded. The confederate losers attacked Ft Sumter first on April 12, 1861 and got their asses beat down in the end.Wrong. I have already proven they didn't. Lincoln invaded Virginia.Hey retard. The confederate losers started the war and they seceded.The federal were fighting to preserve the union, you fucking moron. No one said the Confederacy was. The were trying to secede.That was their reason for secession. I agree. It's undeniable.They were wrong, the reason they left was because of a perceived threat to Slavery when in fact they had as much clout in the Congress as they did BEFORE lincoln was elected and a President alone could not change the Constitution nor state laws. They were worried that 20 years down the line Free States would out number the slave states enough to effect slavery, and instead of fighting politically to prevent that they instead cut their own throats and ended slavery in 3 years not 20.To me Confederate flags honor family members who died honorably fighting bravely for a good cause.
Fighting against the United States of America and in support of maintaining slavery is a good cause?
The simple fact is that the South wanted to self govern. You can argue the reason they wanted to self govern until the cows come home, it really doesn't matter. They no longer recognized the authority of Washington DC just as the USA no longer recognized the authority of the Crown 80 years prior.
To state their cause was "wrong" is to state our cause was wrong in 1776, because they only difference is the USA won it's war for independence.
*Sigh* Read the post again - the REASON is irrelevant. They wanted independence and they fought for it. Same as we did in 1776. If they were "wrong", so were we.You all obviously want that to be the case. That's what the lost cause bullshit was meant to do. To change the narrative.the REASON is irrelevant.
Its not irrelevant. Not at all.
The reason, the self stated reason by the confederate states, is exactly why those monuments and statues are being removed.
Do people have the right to self-determination or not?Apparently the negros didn't.Do people have the right to self-determination or not?
Sure they did. But the vast majority of them chose not to fight for it.
But you didn't answer the question: Do people have the right to self-determination or not?Liar.Sure they did. But the vast majority of them chose not to fight for it.
Your revisionist bullshit isn't gonna fly.
The war, for the confederacy was first and foremost about the preservation of their perceived racial superiority, slavery and the economic advanges thereof. As always, don't take my word for it. Take theirs.
There is nothing else. The fact that the average rube, not unlike yourself, never understood that is irrelevant to the fact that they were indeed fighting toward those ends.
Which of those self stated principles of the confederacy, racial superiority, slavery or the economic exploitation of said slaves through forced labor, deserve continued veneration in American society today?
It was NOT the reason for the war, which was to keep the union together.That was their reason for secession. I agree. It's undeniable.
It was NOT the reason for the war, which was to keep the union together
Derp....
The reason for the confederacy, fool. They weren't fighting to preserve the union. They were fighting to preserve their way of life.
The confederate states threatened civil war for years over the movement toward abolition. They started the war.
How much of a dumbass can you be ?
Yes.....the democrat party fired on The United States, in order to keep Blacks as slaves.........you are correct. Lincoln, the Republican President said he would take no action against the democrat party, who declared separaton from the United States in order to keep Blacks as slaves. Then, the democrat party, being insane assholes that they are to this day, fired on the United States......and started the Civil War, in order to keep Blacks as slaves.
It didn't....... you have been shown how that lie was created...and yet you still believe it....are you dumb, or do you just drink a lot?
Nixonâs Southern Strategy: The Democrat-Lie Keeping Their Control Over the Black Community | Black Quill and Ink
Ken Raymond
Jun 2011
Richard Nixonâs âSouthern Strategyâ, which the democrats say is the reason black people had to support them during the 1960â˛sâis a lie.
And itâs probably the biggest lie thatâs been told to the blacks since Woodrow Wilson segregated the federal government after getting the NAACP to support him.
After talking with black voters across the country about why they overwhelmingly supports democrats, the common answer thatâs emerges is the Southern Strategy.
Iâve heard of the Southern Strategy too. But since it doesnât make a difference in how I decide to vote, I never bothered to research it. But apparently it still influences how many African Americans vote today. That makes it worth investigating.
For those that might be unfamiliar with the Southern Strategy, Iâll briefly review the story. After the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, most blacks registered as democrats and itâs been that way ever since.
And that doesnât make any sense when you consider the fact that it was the democrats that established, and fought for, Jim Crow laws and segregation in the first place. And the republicans have a very noble history of fighting for the civil rights of blacks.
The reason black people moved to the democrats, given by media pundits and educational institutions for the decades, is that when republican presidential candidate Richard Nixon ran for president in 1968, he employed a racist plan thatâs now infamously called the Southern Strategy.
The Southern Strategy basically means Nixon allegedly used hidden code words that appealed to the racists within the Democrat party and throughout the south. This secret language caused a seismic shift in the electoral landscape that moved the evil racist democrats into the republican camp and the noble-hearted republicans into the democrat camp.
And hereâs what I found, Nixon did not use a plan to appeal to racist white voters.
First, letâs look at the presidential candidates of 1968. Richard Nixon was the republican candidate; Hubert Humphrey was the democrat nominee; and George Wallace was a third party candidate.
Remember George Wallace? Wallace was the democrat governor of Alabama from 1963 until 1967. And it was Wallace that ordered the Eugene âBullâ Connor, and the police department, to attack Dr. Martin Luther King
Jr. and 2,500 protesters in Montgomery , Alabama in 1965. And it was Governor Wallace that ordered a blockade at the admissions office at the University of Alabama to prevent blacks from enrolling in 1963.
Governor Wallace was a true racist and a determined segregationist. And he ran as the nominee from the American Independent Party, which was he founded.
Richard Nixon wrote about the 1968 campaign in his book RN: the Memoirs of Richard Nixon originally published in 1978.
In his book, Nixon wrote this about campaigning in the south, âThe deep south had to be virtually conceded to George Wallace. I could not match him there without compromising on civil rights, which I would not do.â
The media coverage of the 1968 presidential race also showed that Nixon was in favor of the Civil Rights and would not compromise on that issue. For example, in an article published in theWashington Post on September 15, 1968 headlined âNixon Sped Integration, Wallace saysâ Wallace declared that Nixon agreed with Supreme Court Justice Earl Warren and played a role in âthe destruction of public school system.â Wallace pledged to restore the school system, in the same article, by giving it back to the states âlock, stock, and barrel.â
This story, as well as Nixonâs memoirs and other news stories during that campaign, shows that Nixon was very clear about his position on civil rights. And if Nixon was used code words only racists could hear, evidently George Wallace couldnât hear it.
Among the southern states, George Wallace won Arkansas , Mississippi , Alabama , Georgia and Louisiana . Nixon won North Carolina , South Carolina , Florida , Virginia , and Tennessee . Winning those states were part of Nixonâs plan.
âI would not concede the Carolina âs, Florida , or Virginia or the states around the rim of the south,âNixon wrote. âThese states were a part of my plan.â
At that time, the entire southern region was the poorest in the country. The south consistently lagged behind the rest of the United States in income. And according to the
âU.S. Regional Growth and Convergence,â by Kris James Mitchener and Ian W. McLean, per capita income for southerners was almost half as much as it was for Americans in other regions.
Nixon won those states strictly on economic issues. He focused on increasing tariffs on foreign imports to protect the manufacturing and agriculture industries of those states. Some southern elected officials agreed to support him for the sake of their economies, including South Carolina Senator Strom Thurmond.
âI had been consulting privately with Thurmond for several months and I was convinced that heâd join my campaign if he were satisfied on the two issues of paramount concern to him: national defense and tariffs against textile imports to protect South Carolina âs position in the industry.âNixon wrote in his memoirs.
In fact, Nixon made it clear to the southern elected officials that he would not compromise on the civil rights issue.
âOn civil rights, Thurmond knew my position was very different from his,â Nixon wrote. âI was for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and he was against it. Although he disagreed with me, he respected my sincerity and candor.â
The same scenario played out among elected officials and voters in other southern states won by Nixon. They laid their feelings aside and supported him because of his economic platformâânot because Nixon sent messages on a frequency only racists can hear.
They didn't admit to the southern strategy......one GOP coward thought he would gain points with morons like you by apologizing for it........since it didn't happen, it simply shows he was a huge coward...
""Some Republicans gave up on winning the African-American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization," Mehlman said at the annual convention of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. "I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong."
Mehlman's apology to the NAACP at the group's convention in Milwaukee marked the first time a top Republican Party leader has denounced the so-called Southern Strategy employed by Richard Nixon and other Republicans to peel away white voters in what was then the heavily Democratic South."
Michael Steele: For Decades GOP Pursued 'Southern Strategy' That Alienated Minorities
Michael Steele: For Decades GOP Pursued 'Southern Strategy' That Alienated Minoritieswww.huffpost.com
"For the last 40-plus years we had a âSouthern Strategyâ that alienated many minority voters by focusing on the white male vote in the South. Well, guess what happened in 1992, folks, âBubbaâ went back home to the Democratic Party and voted for Bill Clinton"