The fall of Trumpism continues

[Anathema]

Yep, that's the problem. We can't seem to pull ourselves out of the two-party death spiral. As long as people remain convinced that they can only vote D or R, we'll just sink deeper and deeper.

I have no loyalty to the letter “R”. I’d love to see a truly Trafitionslly Conservative party form to the Rigt of the Republican Party. Until then all I can do is try to push Republicans as far Right as possible.

 

[Oddball]

What the party needs to realize is that we didn’t vote FOR Trump in either 2016 or 2020. We voted AGAINST the Moderate to Leftist candidates that both parties had been running for years. We didn’t love Trump, we just HATED every other motherfucker on that debate stage.

You don't get an increase of (at least) `12 million from your first election by way of voting against something.

Make no mistake, the "81 million" Biden voters is the biggest box-stuffed lie being told....Repulsion never got that many people to show up at the polls, and it didn't this time around either.

 

[Anathema]

You don't get an increase of (at least) `12 million from your first election by way of voting against something

When neither party gives you a candidate worthy of voting “for”, you generally find yourself voting “against” one candidate or the other.

 

[Jets]

Trumpism is not going anywhere….

 

[Mac1958]

Trumpism is not going anywhere….

Yep, because it's not about its namesake. This is an infection that's much bigger than him.

 

[Oddball]

When neither party gives you a candidate worthy of voting “for”, you generally find yourself voting “against” one candidate or the other.

Point being is that you don't get an increase in turnout for the incumbent like Trump got by them voting against anyone....Moving toward is at least 4X more motivating than moving away....That's how the mind works.

It's also more circumstantial evidence of a hijacked election.

 

[sealybobo]

The fall of Trumpism continues. Pence contradicts Trump in speech at the Federalist society. More and more conservatives and Republicans are pulling away from Trumpism.

Evil is always difficult to eliminate but it will be neutralized. Only the dumbest of the dumb and the evilist of the evil will be left supporting Trumpism.

Pence calls Trump 'wrong,' says 'I had no right to overturn the election'

"Frankly, there is no idea more un-American than the notion that any one person could choose the American president," Pence said.

www.businessinsider.com

There will be a civil war within the Republican party then in the next GOP primary for POTUS.
Even if Trump isn't the nominee, the person who replaces him either believes the last election was free and fair or they don't. They either don't believe Trump should have been impeached or they do. I hope they pick a guy like Pence who wasn't willing to steal an election.

 

[Anathema]

Point being is that you don't get an increase in turnout for the incumbent like Trump got by them voting against anyone

Honestly, I don’t trust any of the vote counts from 2020. I know of many 2016 Trump voters (including myself) who chose not to vote for POTUS in 2020 because there wasnt a reasonable candidate on the ballot.

 

[Anathema]

I hope they pick a guy like Pence who wasn't willing to steal an election.

Great. Just don’t nominate a Liberal-Lite, Pseudo-Democrat candidate like the 2008 and 2012 nominees. That might be even uglier than you can imagine.

 

[22lcidw]

The fall of Trumpism continues. Pence contradicts Trump in speech at the Federalist society. More and more conservatives and Republicans are pulling away from Trumpism.

Evil is always difficult to eliminate but it will be neutralized. Only the dumbest of the dumb and the evilist of the evil will be left supporting Trumpism.

Pence calls Trump 'wrong,' says 'I had no right to overturn the election'

"Frankly, there is no idea more un-American than the notion that any one person could choose the American president," Pence said.

www.businessinsider.com

Lat night one of your angelic Prog buddies drove a car into a few people at the truck protest in Canada.

 

[dblack]

When neither party gives you a candidate worthy of voting “for”, you generally find yourself voting “against” one candidate or the other.

Unfortunately, our system doesn't allow you to vote against a candidate. All you can do is vote for one, and only one, candidate. That's all that gets recorded, all that matters. Saying you are voting "against" someone is a little lie you tell yourself to avoid facing what you're really doing: voting for a bad candidate, on purpose, in a dishonest attempt to game the system.

 

[sealybobo]

Great. Just don’t nominate a Liberal-Lite, Pseudo-Democrat candidate like the 2008 and 2012 nominees. That might be even uglier than you can imagine.

I see them doing that then Trump runs 3rd party.

 

[Anathema]

Unfortunately, our system doesn't allow you to vote against a candidate. All you can do is vote for one, and only one, candidate. That's all that gets recorded, all that matters. Saying you are voting "against" someone is a little lie you tell yourself to avoid facing what you're really doing: voting for a bad candidate, on purpose, in a dishonest attempt to game the system.

You have a point. That’s why most of the time I simply don’t vote… there’s no acceptable candidate. I did that for POTUS in 1996, 2008, 2012, and 2020. I’ve never voted Governor or Senator here in Massachusetts

 

[sealybobo]

You have a point. That’s why most of the time I simply don’t vote… there’s no acceptable candidate. I did that for POTUS in 1996, 2008, 2012, and 2020. I’ve never voted Governor or Senator here in Massachusetts

Clinton was great. Who cares that he got a BJ in the Oval Office? Really?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Clinton was great. Who cares that he got a BJ in the Oval Office? Really?

Must have been a hell of a BJ if it caused an American president to commit perjury.

Oops.

 

[jc456]

TDS thread of the day

 

[jc456]

Clinton was great. Who cares that he got a BJ in the Oval Office? Really?

The republicans did him well.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Lat night one of your angelic Prog buddies drove a car into a few people at the truck protest in Canada.

Well, they arrested him. Let's hope there's more of a justice system in Canada than there is in this country.

 

[Mac1958]

When neither party gives you a candidate worthy of voting “for”, you generally find yourself voting “against” one candidate or the other.

Correct. And that's exactly what happened in 2020.

 

[Lastamender]

Correct. And that's exactly what happened in 2020.

People that feel like you are the minority. The media has you believing you are not. There is no way Biden got 81 million votes. Your hand was overplayed and it could not be more obvious.